morning everybody, and a 7:00, welcome to join us this morning we are watching us around the world, welcome to the breakfast show on sky. fresh evidence of attacks on key of this morning and an extraordinary act of defiance from an employee of russian state tv. very brave woman. see what she did, coming up in just a moment. also talk to the foreign minister james cleverly and take his view on how long president carry on. first, let's speak with jack

struggle, but also, hopefully speak to ukraine's deputy prime minister. and then at 9:30, ukraine's of asserted to the uk will be here sitting on the sofa. it's a packed show. as tuesday, the 15th of march. more explosions heard in kyiv just before sunrise, as fighting continues. these are live images from kyiv where we are hearing a series of russian strikes hit a residential neighborhood. at least one person has been killed. getting back, a uk military releases this image of them striking a russian tank as president zelenskyy says, progress in peace talks has been pretty good.

they're lying to you, ocean state tv employee arrested after entering a live broadcast and protest against the war. >> and a very good morning from south ukraine, from odessa. these fire negotiations continue today, but this place is thought to be the next target. >> roman abramovich is spotted on an airport in -- he may have flown to moscow as the uk fast-tracks new laws to sanction more oligarchs. we will speak to the boss of quadrilaterals the prime minister says, dependence on russian oil and gas has left us open to blackmail from putin. mps have criticize them turning to saudi. >> when i pressed a minister, does she not see any -- ending the dependence with russia, but seeking to replace

them by going hand-in-hand with another murderous tyrant. >> also, on the program for you this morning, trying to escape, we'll speak to british most are going to get his young daughter and his ex partner out of moldova and into the uk. and raising able to ukraine, will speak to ukrainian under british violinist to perform and with almost 100 other musicians in a symphony of solidarity. hello everyone, ukraine's president says progress in peace socks has been pretty good. but overnight, there's reported evidence of explosions into ukrainian cities at a russian sky that sent a residential

neighborhood in kyiv. here is what happened overnight. russian forces have continued shelling suburbs around the capital kyiv with a loud blasts hard before sunrise. explosions and gunfire also heard overnight in kharkiv, in the northeast of the country. these are the live images coming to us in the sky center from kyiv this morning, a smoking residential building. a russian strike hitting that neighborhood this morning around 18 miles from the city center. at least one person has been killed. others are thought to be possibly trapped inside that smoldering building. ukraine military say they were artillery strikes. let's bring in the key developments this morning, president donald skills described progress in peace talks with the russia aspirin you get. uk said to sanction more oligarchs today, there's new lost a tackle 3:30 russian money. a fast track to parliament. the prime minister says the

west made a terrible mistake by continuing to rely on russian oil and gas after an invaded crimea in 2014. and it's left us open to blackmail from putin. by mess or heading to saudi arabia this evening to explore other oil options. and more than 43,000 people have so far signed up to take in ukrainians under the government's homes for a refugee scheme in the uk. >> even as ukraine's leader held progress and peace talks, russia's warplanes continued their relentless bombardment across the country. the second city of kharkiv coming under heavy fire last night. there is a crackdown on opponents of this war in russia. but from the bleakness came this breathtaking act of bravery.

>> in a country where the nosing than vision of ukraine is now a crime, this employee interrupting one of russia's most watched news programs. it's propaganda, the sign reads. they are lying to you here. stop the war, she chants, as the anchor tries to drown her out. marino was arrested shortly afterwards. but she had pre-recorded this message. >> it was a glimpse of opposition to this hold within russia, even of much of it has been scared into silence. horror at the relentless bombardment of their ukrainian neighbors. on the outskirts of kyiv, new strikes have borne freshen of a

station. residents of this apartment block picking through the wreckage of their lives. president zelenskyy said, talks between ukraine and russia would resume today as he made a direct plea to russian soldiers. >> you will take lives. there are a lot of you. but your life will also be taken. but why should you die? but for? i know that you want to survive. winds are so up to your conversations. we hear what you really think about the senseless war. about this disgrace. and about your state. >> the fragile diplomatic hope remains, but as the surrenders its 20th day, the suffering of the ukrainian people multiplies. it's difficult to compute loss on the scale. martha counter-, sky news. >> james cleverly joining us now, mr. cleverly, good morning

to you. let's start with the nato base that we heard about over the last couple of days. reports from this morning's newspapers that, up to three former military personnel have died in that explosion. do we know anything more about the? >> well, i don't have details on the individuals that have been injured and hurt, or whether or not they are british nationals. obviously, there are british nationals involved, the uk foreign office will be there to support. we do remind people that the travel advice is that they shouldn't be going to ukraine. we completely understand the urge to help and be supportive, but obviously, we are telling people it is not safe to travel to ukraine. but obviously, of british nationals have been hurt or killed, the government is there to support. >> the government can come from this morning whether or not

british nationals have perished? >> no, indeed. i can't speak about those details, i don't have that detail at the moment. but as i say, the uk government is there to support people and they do need our help. but we do urge people, whether they're tempted to help militarily, or whether they are trying to be supportive and humanitarian sons, our devices that people should not be going to ukraine. but there are other ways that they can help. and we advise them to donate to a recognized charity rather than put themselves a risk. >> okay, explosions and kyiv again overnight, it looks as though another residential building has been hit. it looks as though the russians are getting quite desperate. hitting buildings like this, just to clarify, we do this every day, that's a war crime, isn't it? >> yes. the targeting of civilians, or

civilian infrastructure is a war crime. the situation in ukraine is terrible, and it's obvious that the russian military are not achieving the goals that they set themselves. we're not achieving the goals that vladimir putin has such for them. the defense by ukrainians is amazing and, we continue to support whether it be through humanitarian support, economic support, and those defensive military equipment that we have provided the ukrainian armed forces. >> to that end, an aide to president putin, says that progress is slower than expected. surprising that someone close to putin would actually acknowledge that. we also believe that russia is asking for chinese aid. that is been denied by china. what's britain's advice to china? we've heard about the united states has said.

they've won china guns getting involved. >> what we're saying to all countries is that they should denounce this unprovoked, illegal attack on ukraine by russia. they should not in any be supporting russia. and we are trying trees to join the uk and the international community in condemning and sanctioning russia to choke off the finances which are funding putin's war effort. there is no justification at all for this attack. and we urge china and all countries around the world to denounce it and absolutely on to sort of. >> we are for an officer, if we tell them to bite out of this war, to china? >> we have made it clear to all countries around the world that they should condemn this action. we saw the united nations an unprecedented scale and that

against the actions that russia have to come. we are seeing every day, more countries joining the countries that are sanctioning russia. what we do, is we are urging everybody to make it very clear that they oppose this innovation, they will take action, that they will sanction putin and those people around him. and we will prevent him from pursuing this as we say a completely unjustified war in ukraine. >> as china done that, are they giving us that guarantee? >> well, china statements are in the public domain. we feel that countries should be really unequivocal in their opposition to what's going on. michigan dumb. a lot of countries did so of the united nations. we would like everybody to continue pushing russia, as you sending introduction, we're

introducing now or other just last night, we're introducing legislation that label lots of stoplight even more sanctions on top of the ones that we already applied. we want to do is have the international community speak with one voice. condemning this attack and putting real financial pressure on to vladimir putin so he can no longer pursue this war of aggression against -- >> i don't want to talk about oligarchs, but i want to clarify, houston are guaranteed to the uk that they are will not get involved in the war in ukraine? >> we haven't had that statement from china but want to do is ensure that shine on indeed every country around the world is condemning some strength -- absolutely not supporting russia in its aggression. against ukraine. and indeed, sanctioning russian putting financial pressure on russia. that's all we're calling on

international communities and we will continue to push for until this work comes to a conclusion of russian forces. >> there was a briefing that the ministry of defense but sought every morning about this time and intelligence opt out as they call. it all to share it with our viewers an to your view on this and particularly on the second point about reports suggesting that russia may seek to state a referendum to legitimize the area as a breakaway republic similar to denounce. what's your interpretation of what that means? well, it's quite clear that vladimir putin's regional intention was having a very fast war to capture ukraine and two install a puppet government. that it's clearly not working out. so it's not quite obvious that

vladimir putin and the russians are attempting some form of legitimacy or justification for military action. the uk is completely clear. ukraine is a sovereign territory. they have the right to protect their own borders. they have a full election to try and justify russia's aggression to ukraine. they will be recognized for exactly what it is. and that is a fake. and what we are calling on putin to do is to end this war and ended immediately. >> okay, we will be continuing. there's so much to talk to about this morning. i will crack on a telegraph this morning from the prime minister in which he talks about the solar, he talks about wind, he talks about no killer, he talks about the north sea oil. he doesn't mention fracking. are we given up on fracking?

>> well, we have made it absolutely clear that we need to move away from our collective addition to carbon energy. the uk has really lead the way. the uk has really lead the way in pushing for alternative energy production and moving away from gas and oil. the situation in ukraine presents a unique and terrible additional emphasis to us collectively to move away from our addiction of hydrocarbons. and it's absolutely right. we seek to do that. because it's the right thing to do for the environment. and as we are now seeing, they did not use russia, an incredibly great source of income, to rely on this war. >> any more to add to my question? >> well, as to say, we have made it absolutely clear that

we are trying to move away from those in the uk. we have economically sustainable routes. a strategic decision on the specific means of energy generation is for the energy sector. but ultimately, our direction travel is to move away from hydrocarbons. because the right thing to do for the environment is the right thing to do economically. and in this particular situation with ukraine, it's the right thing to do to deny russia a means of funding these war efforts. >> we've got one of the heads on a little later on. we are looking at stealing their wealth as early as today. should they do it? or should they weigh >> will, as i said, kay. the individual decisions is for the departments. but the point that i made is that the direct travel in the uk is to move towards an

economically, ecologically and, with regards of russia, a more diplomatically sustainable model of energy generation. -- >> what do you feel that way today are not? >> i'm trying to focus on the conflict in ukraine. >> the prime minister is talking about it as the lead story in the telegraph today. >> i get the importance. i get the importance of securing energy in a short term. that is an incredibly important point. we will be speaking to the international community to do that. but ultimately, as i have said, the real important thing for us to focus on is ultimately moving away from our addiction to hydrocarbons. >> quick talk on saudi arabia -- >> -- it's alternately the right thing to do.

>> just a quick thing on saudi arabia. the prime ministers headed there today. they have killed 81 men over the weekend. we were told that we bring up the human rights with them every time we talk to them. that's not gonna go very far is it? >> we well, i used to be the minister. the uk has a long-standing and principle. that is a conversation that i had had with saudi arabia when i was with my colleague, amanda milley, who had taken over that role. she had conversations along those lines. we think it is wrong as a response to criminal behavior that is our long-standing principle decision to saudi arabia. i have no doubt that they will responds -- >> okay, but we'll still do

business with. them will have to pick that up next time we chat james spencer cleverly, thank you for joining us. >> great look at the front page. now, most of it leads on the public response to the homes to the ukraine scheme. it says that thousands of british families have already signed up to host refugees. it leads with the same story saying that 43,000 people have offered to take those fleeing the conflict. that is also on the front of the daily mail carrying the new scheme is their headline. well, the times says that the online registration crashed shortly after it opened as people rushed to sign. the national ukrainian army has released this footage with soldiers firing from an armored vehicle in mariupol. the city council says, as of yesterday, 2357 people have been killed in the besieged port of the city. nick is standing by for us in the port of odessa for us now. hi nick.

we cannot underestimate how important odessa is to both sides, can we? >> no. it's hugely important. it is a massive poured. strategically important. it's important to the economy. you have to see it us one of the major sporting crane. and if the russians take it, they have control of the black sea. and that gives them a very strong hands. we've been here for a few days now seeing how they are defending themselves. other port cities to the east of here, like mick ally of, we visited yesterday, half of the population has already run from their 500,000 people who usually live there. 250,000 people, and just over a, week have decided to leave. and that is because of, gradually, the russian military is circling that part of the city. and it has been shelling and bombing there for the last few days. and what we went through

yesterday, we saw that there are still a lot of people who have not been able to leave or cannot leave, nor can they afford to. their families out there. we met a grandmother who is looking after her grandchildren because her parents work in a local hospital. and they are hunkering down, trying to survive this. elsewhere, yesterday, it was a bloody day in this war. the capital of kyiv saw some really significant shelling artillery. a 15 series -- stories apartment block got bombed. our teams on the ground reported that this apartment block, this residential complex, was nowhere near any military sites. which leads to the ever growing conclusions that the russian military are targeting civilians. we saw evidence of that in mykolaiv yesterday. we were driving down the residential street were shells landed on the road and all the

windows of all the important work blown out. people are long gone from that. people dare not to stick around. there was some hopeful news from that city yesterday. on our drive, and we saw about 15 buses. all in a fast-moving convoy. they were packed with people. thankfully, those were probably women and children who were able to get out of there told us a. but as you said, kay, they're going from one dangerous area to another. about 150 cars were able to be evacuated from mariupol. it's a city that has been pounded for nearly two weeks. so there are glimmers of hope as we used to monitoring corridors are open. the people, women and children can get out of the cities. it is heartbreaking when you meet toddlers in a city that is being shelled knowing that they cannot escape. so, peace talks are continuing today. and a lot of that talk is trying to figure out whether humanitarian corridors can be

opened and stay open so that people can get out of these dangerous places. >> okay. thanks a lot. well, despite the ongoing war in ukraine, residents of odessa are doing their best to keep spirits high as they prepared to defend their city from a russian attack. let's look at this. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> amazing. so they're taking the opportunity to join together through the medium assault. how lovely. chelsea's football club's owner, abramovich, has been spotted in public for the first time since being sanctioned over his tied with vladimir putin. he was seen in the vip lounge in an airport where he departed for a stumble on a private jet. the billionaire then flew to moscow. mr. abramovich said last week that he is selling the club. the cell husband put on hold due to chelsea operating under

a special government license. in the premier league disqualified him as a club director. still to come on the program, we will get the news of labours form of secretary jack straw on all sorts of things. we will speak to two, many who have fled ukraine. they are an island, what happened to them? then, we will be joined by the shadow secretary, lisa 90. very passionate and what the house of commons. yesterday, you'll find out why just after 8:00. in the meantime, china's dismissed claims by the united states that russia has requested military assistance from beijing as -- let's find out more, thomas tending by for us in beijing. i was just pressing the foreign minister for the uk on that very subject as well. tom, i'm not clear who has been communicating with china and what they have been saying. >> you didn't get an answer

from the minister. that we haven't had an answer from china. as the, said they dismissed this as malicious disinformation when it was reported in the media outlet. but it was reported in those media outlets. they had requested this from china with economic support. but we didn't know what chinese response was. now, there was a sense that the u.s. intelligence was trying to get out ahead of this to put pressure on china and its role in this ukraine conflict. so far, china has been on the sidelines. everybody has been wondering which way it will go. especially because of that deep friendship between president putin and xi jinping, the president of china. they met here on the eve of the olympics. they talk about abolishing the new no limits. but we are finding out that there are some bits of with those summits. light, rhetorically, has firmly been in russia's -- it's been amplifying russia's concerns. it has repeated false

information about laboratories in ukraine. it is certainly in russia's cabinet. it has not condemned russia's invasion. it refused to even call it an invasion. the terms of actions that we haven't seen our anything such. that's the key part of this. if china doesn't fit on russia's side, we will have effectively a proxy war. ukraine and russia are fighting in the middle. but the west of china are on the other side. and that is rather a nightmare in this cold war. china hasn't gone that far yet. it has blocked shipments of aircrafts to russia because it's worried about secondary sanctions. china's fixated on the surge of covid cases here. so far, we need to wait and see the approach. the thing that might change that is the close friendship between putin and xi jinping. they share a world view. they think that the dissolution of the soviet union was a terrible event for the world. and they believe that the west power is on the way.

i think, in recent events, they may have been convinced that the west is stronger than it first appear. especially in terms of the response to the ukraine. but right now, beijing is really defined by inaction rather than anything else. >> a quick thought on covid before i let you go. i am sure that you have seen the acts of friday, all of the remaining travel restrictions in england, and, police are going to be gone. and, yet very different stories and some parts of where you are. >> yes, kay, really different story. this is a fortress when it comes to covid. the boat has been steeled for a long time. and they have this zero covid approach where if there's an outbreak, they tried to stump up very quickly suit matt testing. it's coming under huge amount of stress. it may not have seen that high for thousand reported yesterday. but that is the highest into. years, and the trajectory keeps adding around 1000 every day to spread all over the country. so, people are worrying whether this is the moment that omicron breakthrough china, and that could have serious effect for

global supply change as well. we've already seen some factories as the iphone under lockdown. there are millions of people under lockdown though. china's trying to beat back this recent wave of omicron, because they still have a lot of race of vaccinations -- people are getting nervous about this. they are hunkering down from -- >> all, right tom, for now, thank you. other news for you this morning. as i was saying, all travel restrictions in the uk are set to be removed completely whether you're vaccinated or not from friday, no one entering the uk will need to take a covid test or complete one of those passenger locator forms that take forever. this will make the uk one of the first major economists an all coronavirus travels rules talking to the travel editor of the daily telegraph, we are open, coming up very shortly. before that, let's take a look at these dramatic pictures from abstain of the airport landing

in heavy cross winds. my goodness. here we go. here we go look, he's got a big smile on his face. wow, wow, no! norah slice, a very good morning to you. if all that cargo plane down beautifully. a qatari pilot bringing on the airplane at skripal airport and significant cross winds. eventually they have to go sideways and flick it around at the end. not for me, thank you. rather say here. latest employment data for the uk has just been released. what is it saying, helen is here, good morning. >> there's a lesson there. statistics that will tell us about jobs and wages.

-- top line, employment is up, unemployment is down. but digging deep, are there a few other things going on that i think economists on the government would be quite worried about. firstly, and importantly, wages and how importantly they compare to inflation. for the second month in a row, now, real wages are down compared to inflation. down a whole percentage points in the three months to january. so that's really significant. i'm really wearing because inflation is very high. and essentially, families get to the point where they feel they can spend their money after the economy, they can afford to do so. that's when things get really worrying from an economic perspective, especially as we are still theoretically recovering from the pandemic. so that's a big problem. molly's as well, because these are the figures for january. and we know when the figures for february in march come through and we see those impacts of those numbers with the war in ukraine, those huge increases in the price of oil, gas, green, unfortunately the situation is likely to get a

bit worse. one of the thing that's worth pulling out, we haven't spoken about it in the recent months, but we did a lot of the summer. vacancies, that huge labor shortages, quietly continuing to get a lot worse. for the first time, the number of vacancies in the economy up over 1,200,000. and that matters, too, because companies can't find workers, they have to put their wages up, and have to price their goods up. that will feed into the big inflationary problem that we're all seeing, and that mismatch between wages and inflation. so there's a lot of stuff going on that i think government will be very worried about. the chance that we will be paying attention to in the spring station next week. he was at the scene to do something for families. >> thank you, and a reminder that our business presenter ian king is back with a special episode of ian king live looking at how the war in ukraine is affecting the global economy. and that is tonight, for you, here on sky news at 9:00 this

evening. a special program from our business presenter ian king, the global economy. other news, look how melted and service in the process of adding his mother surname as an additional middle name. it's understood the seven-time formula 1 world champion, he was robbed of his eighth one, wasn't he? well includes elaborate as a third middle name, along with carl and davidson, rather than it becoming a double-barreled surname. he said he really wants mom's name to continue on with the hamilton name. and it's no more hard road for one rock icon who has taken it upon himself to fix some of the potholes that played britons roads. you know who we're talking about? sir rod stewart donned a track suit and a high visibility jacket as he started fixing potholes after complaining that they would damage his ferrari. so, he used to dig graves,

analyses amending potholes just in case it damages the underneath of his ferrari. he posted those pictures on instagram. still to come on the program, explosions have been heard in kyiv just before sunrise. as biden in the east of the country. ukrainian military release this footage of them striking a russian tank as president zelenskyy says progress in peace talks has been pretty good. and the russian state tv employee is arrested after interrupting a live broadcast and protest against the war. alicia while ago, as the foreign office minister james cleverly whether china had condemned russia's invasion of ukraine to the uk following reports that moscow had asked

raging for help. >> we haven't had that statement from china. but what we are looking to do is ensure that china and another country around the world is condemning russia's actions. absolutely not supporting russia in its aggression against ukraine. and indeed, sanctioning russia, putting real pressure on russia. that's why we're calling on the international community to do. and that's why we'll continue to push for until this war comes to a conclusion on the russian forces leave ukraine. >> good morning, would you make of what mr. cleverly had to say this morning? >> he didn't really go for china, which suggests that maybe talks going on behind the scenes. but he made clear that there have been no guarantees made by china about what its role is going to be. including potentially, the prospect of being a solution to this crisis could china be the only country to try and talk

vladimir putin don, to try to get peace talks going in a meaningful way. i think that's what all the world is wondering. but, certainly, will we're seeing from joe biden, and rushing to rome to have talks. so is great concern about what it could be if the reports of the u.s. officials are correct. that russia has asked china to give it weaponry to continue this war. >> that's important because it looks as though, russian aides have knowledge that the onslaught house stalled because they don't have enough equipment. and they particularly need drones. i was looking to china to say, don't you dare. >> absolutely, that's very much the message. i think the u.s. are saying, don't do it. and yes, after weeks of saying, it is going all to plan, we can all see that the u.s. intelligence assessment that it wasn't. we heard sergei lavrov raging in those press conferences, saying you don't know with the plan is, only we know the plan is. but you've had senior people

now in russia expressing doubts about the way the war is going. about the huge losses of life that we assume are taking place, although no official numbers on those as yet. and, if china was to help in the war in russia, obey huge call for them. and be a new cold war. so these are the sorts of considerations at the moment. and, of course, boris johnson is meeting a number of leaders of nordic, and baltic countries today. countries like estonia, and latvia. they're all in london having a meeting this morning. and they will be concerned about whether this conflict my spillover over their borders from russia, and whether the -- -- i do apologize about that, my phone is one of his own. but whether this would happen. >> obviously, there's something much more interesting on your phone the one i'm saying in the moment. there you go, story about it.

in fact, you can see a cartoon and the times are the telegraph, i can't remember. and it's got putin on a bear riding up to a drug and that's have sleeping. so let's see what happens. >> that's the big concern. was johnson also talking about getting ourselves off of russian energy today. >> we'll talk about that and tomorrow's take away. thank you, in the meantime, let's bring in the former labor foreign secretary jack straw. hello mr. straw, thanks for coming. i put it to mr. cleverly about what we have said than what china may have said. tell us all those back channels work, especially in a situation like this when we are trying to get them to stay out of a war that could make the difference between tens of thousands of people dying, and not. >> in any situation, it's essential to hawaii described as a back channel. so, there is a confidential conversations between diplomats

who are trusted on each site. no shots to trust each other. and typically, they take place completely away from scrutiny. i'll just give you an example, when president obama wanted to reestablish some relationship with iran, elected the nuclear deal in 2015. there were two years of back channel allegations between american and iranian officials, which was undeniable. but, which ensure that when they got to fill negotiations, actually a more issues. the saying goes in the diplomatic trait. >> okay, what do you make of what you are hearing and the fact that china is saying, no, we're not involved little. another easy just this? the united states is saying, we can see what's going on. what role would you play if you

are still in the uk foreign secretary? will be happening behind the scenes? >> well, but i can see here is that china has been looking at the situation. it has nothing particularly to thank the united states for. it's benefited hugely from the relaxation of trades restrictions which took place 30 years ago. but, the united states and the west benefits as much as china from china straight. and china is a great nation. one of the things about both china and these days russia is the sense that these nations, which were humiliated by the west. in china's case, who are humiliated. and russia's cases, are being humiliated. as a result of the collapse of the berlin wall and all that's happened 30 years ago. they don't really feel that they owe the west anything. on the other hand, the chinese

are not stupid, far from it. and their prosperity does indeed depend on trade with the west. and a tiny amount on trade with russia, whose economy so much smaller. then china's. and their population of some are smaller. so, they're trying to work it all. but they think they've now decided, or should've understood, is that this is a war that president putin is not lost, but essentially not winning. even if he does win, it would be a small victory. so, that's what's going on there. in my view, i think this is widely shared, only one who could really push putin into a corner and getting off this brutal, outrageous been sure of his is the chinese president.

and that's of course very important for the west, and for people like our prime minister to push with the chinese. >> so sure, we're very lucky to you today. because foreign affairs service are dominating's headlines. wearing the prime minister is heading to saudi arabia later on today to talk about trying to source a different client when it comes to oil, given the sanctions that we got in place against russia. but, we know that the saudis killed 81 people in one day on saturday of this weekend. how can we do business with a country that we bring up and their behavior towards fellow human beings. and, we continue to do it. ever since your government was in power, because of course you also did business with them. >> we did.

and it's true across the world the you are faced with these moral hazards. so, the answer is, how do you do business in practice? but it's -- here's the problem, and there will be people saying, just refuse to take saudi oil. let me just pointed out, that texas a lone star state in the united states, it, to, execute quite significant number of people and with a very rickety criminal justice system certainly compared to ours. so, there is a relativism here. when iran, which has killed more people judicially than any other country executes people, that's huge condemnation around the world. if it's saudi arabia, it's muted. and if it's texas, they will

say nothing about it. how do you do it? we need saudi oil. we also need the rain in oil. and we need venezuelan oil. and so you will have to see, not things put aside, but frankly twin track negotiations. but in the case of saudi arabia, iran, and venezuela for example, those countries need to sell oil. at the highest price they can. and they won't mind at all about putting russia's nose out of it if they can take a greater market share of things than their own goal i got markets. so that's what happens. markets. so that's what happens but it significantly than what saudi arabia just got to over this weekend.

let me ask you about fracking. your previous constituents of course, up there, are very much in the heart of flanking. . should we kept those nonetheless, or should we weigh. it depends on the geology. i, mean i have never been opposed to principle to fracking. and i've seen it operate elsewhere. it's a huge amount. and in all the countries where fracking is taking place has been okay. the difficulty is the geology of that part -- it did lead to a number of very minor earthquakes. when you talk about the earthquake you think about building's tumbling down. that does happen. but there are very more natural

earthquakes of natural side than there have been. but nonetheless, you have to understand it from the public's going to view that there is real anxiety in that. it's about the ideological effects of fracking. so that is familiar if you like a practical one rather than an opposing principle to fracking. it's another way of getting it onto the ground. and i am very much in favor. my party is pursuing. this but meanwhile, you need a lot of gas and oil. >> we do. for an officer minister, we are out of time. but do come back more often. thank you indeed. thanks a. lot >> so, latest suggestions from the government, time and time again is that the uk takes more refugees than any other country in europe, does?

it will talk about it with the next spirit in the moment. but first, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is not one of the most recognized world leaders with the trademark army green shirt and unshaven luck. and clearly, this is rubbing off on other leaders. including the french president, emmanuel mccaul. he has been spotted posing in a hoodie and jeans. at the start -- apart from his usual suit and tie. he's bearing a striking resemblance to the ukrainian leader. anybody would think that he's fighting an election campaign. now, the exodus of refugees from ukraine continue. almost 3 million people have left the country so far. joining us now is the research of the university of officer, hello to mr. walsh, i heard you on the radio just yesterday morning. i also, have heard the prime minister many times on the dispatch that anywhere else.

is that true? >> well, he was quite cautious in the words that you use. so that's a technical term. we settle refugees -- but actually, that is not the whole picture. we settled refugees to about a small chair, about 5% of all of those people who have given a related protection in the uk and europe. the rest of them are people who actually had to come to the uk to apply. so those who were not allowed to apply abroad, they need to come to the uk. many of them, in much bigger numbers both in the uk and in your. but when it comes to the regular map process, the uk ranks about 50 or six compared with the eu.

so, 5% is number one. they're actually much bigger numbers that come through the regular insulin process. >> what about paired population, where are we with that? >> yes, some people say that actually it's just about the population. because the population size is a crude measure in the country's ability to provide the refuge by. people if all is well down the list impended and the eu coming in about in the 20th. >> the 20th? >> yes, and that is only taken to the account where we settle. the prime minister was talking about all of those, because when you travel to the eu to claim asylum. -- >> so, which countries in europe should we be looking at? i mean, often we hear about germany. but i've heard previously that sweden does very well when it comes to looking after refugees. >> it does. yes. sweden actually posts us in

fifth place. and it's about ten times as many people in the century than the uk done there are other countries like italy, like greece, like spain, like france, etc. and then some of the other countries of course -- >> and, i'm guessing, also just before i let you, go it's actually fascinating stuff. turkey took an awful lot of refugees? >> yes. it's actually estimated that there are more refugees in turkey than any other country in the world. and the latest estimate, 4 million. so very considerable numbers in turkey. although, we don't really hear so much about. >> so, what we have to remember is, is that when the prime minister says we take in more refugees and anywhere in europe, that is true. but only if you at the word, resettlement. >> yes, it is. it's that small subset of the total number of refugees.

it's those resettled refugees. we're on arrival, they receive full refugee status. >> all fascinating. stuff and i hope that all our viewers have learned some thinking. from the benefit of your knowledge, thank you so much for taking the time to join. us thank you. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. it's all about the wording. all about the details, my next guest, traveled for days to flee the conflict in kharkiv leaving their family be home. they are now living safely in dublin. anastasia is with us now. hello ladies, thank you for joining. us >> high. >> tell me the story. tell me what happened. >> our story is that our homeland, ukraine, as you know is under attack of russian bombs and rockets and are placing kharkiv is being

targeted. as you know, civilians are dying already. our families who stay in kharkiv now are hiding in a bomb shelter and in underground stations. they are trying to avoid the russian rockets and bombs. >> so tell me what you've been doing in dublin particularly? >> sorry? >> tell me why particularly you want to dublin? >> yes. it happened by accident. our weight was. long firstly, we went to the polish border. but we didn't know where we could go next. we were stuck in poland and we were in desperation because we couldn't find intimidation in a job in poland. we became stranded in poland.

we had no idea. that is why we decided to go back to ukraine. the fact that we are in ireland now is just, i don't know, magic. >> okay. and for you, i know you traveled together, you're related aren't you? anesthesia is a child child -- psychologist. and it was her work, a particularly, a young mom called, let me just check your name, tell me about oksana and what happened. >> oksana is a woman who helped us. her child was scared and stressed.

so she decided to find a child psychologist who might be able to give her child some recommendations and consultation. and oksana sent a request to see us. so, she replied to her message -- >> okay. you know what ladies. i am so pleased that you're safe. what a terrible journey that you have had. but hopefully, you can start to build a new life in dublin, safe in the knowledge that the british people are completely behind you. thank you so much. >> thank you. and we want to send a message to irish people. we are so grateful to the irish people for all the kindness and

hospitality that they treat us with. and our irish family who hosted us, this family, we are surrounded by care, intention and family warmth. we really appreciate it. we are attached to them to the bottom of our. hearts >> beautiful ladies. i'm afraid we're gonna have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. us let's have a quick look at a couple of the pictures from this morning papers just go through them very quickly. we have a shot of what the night sky looks like from the outskirts of kyiv amid heavy russian bombardment. the telegraph has this dramatic picture of a wild horse in colorado captured by a u.s. base scottish photographer. and one more, got time for one more? here we go. the times has this absolutely fantastic picture of a car that

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good morning, everybody. welcome you joining us wherever you are around the world. fresh evidence of attacks on kyiv this morning. an extraordinary act of dee defiance from the russian state. and while china denied helping russia, the foreign minister says there is no unequivocal condemnation on the invasion.