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tv   Hallie Jackson Reports  MSNBC  March 15, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT

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as we come on the air, more american help may be headed to ukraine soon with president biden just signing a bill into law to send more than $13 billion there. a new lifeline as the white house announces the president is heading to brussels next week to meet with allies about putin's unrelenting war, a war where more and more residential areas like the one you're looking at in kyiv are being targeted. this was the scene earlier in kharkiv helping a woman escape from a building there, bringing her down. and once they got on the ground everybody scrambling for cover after a russian fighter jet flew overhead. seconds later a loud explosion. knocking some people down to the ground. that's what life is like on the ground right now. the un says more than 3 million
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ukrainians have been forced to grab what they could and run from their country. after all but begging canada's parliament for help, the ukrainian president set to make that same pitch to congress tomorrow here in washington. a member of house foreign affairs committee, tom malinowski will join us live. plus a behind-the-scenes look you'll see at the emergency center where they're monitoring ukraine's nuclear power plants 24/7. just ahead, what keeps the man in charge up at night. our team is covering every angle. ali arouzi is in ukraine, kristen welker at the white house, josh lederman in vienna and leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill. ali, a lot to get to here. there is a new curfew in kyiv, another round of cease-fire talks, and the new update from the pentagon just in the last couple hours from a defense official that there are other continues -- other cities sill
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stg heavily bombarded, among them mariupol. >> reporter: that's right, hallie. a new curfew going into effect in kyiv. the mayor klitschko put that in. such a dangerous place there. the russian troop have pretty much overwhelmed irpin. journalists being shot, children caught up in that. they want people to stay at home, to stay safe. the only time they're allowed to come out is when those very eerie air raid sirens go off and they're meant to go into underground bunkers. they want people to stay at home. we saw the devastation that the russians caused there late last night early in the morning. they've terrorized the civilian population. those two residential buildings got bombed. at least three people have been killed. dozens of other people have been left homeless because of that
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merciless attack on that city. of course, there are worries about these other cities like mariupol that's been so hard hit over the last few weeks. that place has essentially been destructed, that poor young woman we saw that was in the maternity hospital, she became a symbol of the human cost there. those amazing pictures of her being led out of the hospital. she didn't make it, neither did her unborn son. that's why these humanitarian corridors are so important for places like mariupol. we have heard that about 4,000 people were able to get out of mariupol yesterday in about 2,000 civilian cars. hallie, that's only about 1% of the population. there's a big convoy heading into mariupol meant to take in humanitarian aid and other buses to get civilians out of there. you can't help but think if that humanitarian convoy had been allowed in a couple days ago, that young woman and her unborn
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child might be alive today. as you mentioned, there were peace talks as well. they started yesterday between ukrainian officials and russian officials. they didn't really get anywhere yesterday. they resumed again today and they covered the same topics. ukrainians are saying they want an immediate end to this war. they want all russian troops out of this country immediately, and they're not willing to capitulate to any of russia's demands. they've made the outline of their demands very clear, and they're not going to back down on it. you don't see that just from the government here. you see that sort of resilience from all the regular people you speak to here in ukraine. they said they're going to fight to the last man. they're not going to let the russians take their country. i spoke to a young woman here in lviv the other day. i asked her, are you worried the russians might take your entire country pretty soon? she said the only way they'll take our country is if they kill
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us all. so incredible fortitude from these people. but again, just to reiterate those talks, i think the most important thing to come out of those peace talks is to open up those humanitarian corridors and get these desperate people out of cities like kyiv and mariupol that are just being hit relentlessly by the russians. of course, hallie, one of the fears is that the russians are getting bogged down outside kyiv. if they're not making the strategic moves that they want to, then they may -- that city like many of the other cities they have done across ukraine. even though kyiv is very symbolically important for them and it has all those orthodox churches. the speculation is, if they don't get their way, they could pull something like that off. >> people potentially bracing for the worst. ali, thank you for being with us from lviv. kristen, there have been a couple of significant developments at the white house.
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first, the bill signing we referenced and then the announcement from the white house that president biden will head to brussels to try to shore up the alliance with nato. explain what his mission is when he's there. >> reporter: well, we pressed the white house on that, hallie, what are the president's goals, and the tangible takeaways he wants to achieve when he attends what the administration is calling an extraordinary nato summit that's going to happen on march 24th. white house press secretary jen psaki saying the goal is to reassure the global allies of this alliance that it is firm, that it is strong. take a listen to what jen psaki had to say. >> his goal is to meet in person face to face with his european counterparts and talk about and assess where we are at this point in the conflict in the invasion of ukraine by russia. we've been incredibly aligned to date. that doesn't happen by accident. the president is a big believer
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in face-to-face diplomacy. so it's an opportunity to do exactly that. >> reporter: hallie, this comes as you said at the top of your show, that president zelenskyy is going to address congress tomorrow. he's going to ask for the very things that president biden has said are non-starters, a no-fly zone, those polish migs to send over. but his message will undoubtedly be emotional as it was today to the canadian parliament. that is going to only ramp up the pressure on president biden. now, also today, one other development i want to tell you about which is that russia announced sanctions against top u.s. officials including the president as well as the press secretary, antony blinken, the secretary of state, the defense secretary, general mark milley who is of course the chairman of the joint chiefs. even secretary clinton who tweeted i wanted to thank the russian academy for this lifetime achievement award. jen psaki also mocked the sanctions saying none of them
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have plans to vacation in moscow soon so they'll be just fine. on a serious note i asked if this move escalated the tensions. she dismissed them as merely for show. >> you're teeing up employee ann caldwell who is on capitol hill. you heard president zelenskyy beaming in from his safe location in ukraine to deliver this address to congress tomorrow morning. we got a bit of a preview when he spoke with the canadian parliament already. he continues to make this pitch for a no-fly zone. that's a non-starter it seems for the biden administration. what realistically could the members of congress who will be in the audience tomorrow do for president zelenskyy that they haven't already done? >> reporter: hallie, a couple things. first, i have not spoken to a member of congress who is not going to attend tomorrow. this is one of the hottest tickets in touchblt they're anxious to hear what he has to say. and also to show a level of
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respect that all of these members of congress who have such respect for president zelenskyy. he is going to speak about the no-fly zone, about the russian planes he also wants. he's made these requests over and over again. now, most members of congress are on the same page about a no-fly zone. they say it's not likely. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said he doesn't support it. but on the issue of the polish planes, most members of congress think the u.s. should hand them over. here is a sampling of lawmakers that we caught up with earlier to i dachlt we'll talk on the other side. >> i don't understand why we're not providing all of the above. >> figure out some way, some nuance where we can protect the airspace. >> no one wants to trigger world war iii, and it is important that we not have direct engagement with the russians. it is also important that vladimir putin not be the one who is allowed to call the
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shots. >> reporter: so what else congress can do is an open question. this week they're going to remove russia from the most favored trade status. the president started that process last week. congress has to approve it. the house could vote as early as this ek woo. the senate is expected to follow. i asked to a republican as well if they're running out of options. he said, well, something they're also talking about is putting sanctions on those countries who are working closely with russia including perhaps china. so that is one more tool they have in their toolbox. you can expect a very passionate plea from president zelenskyy tomorrow, and these members of congress are definitely going to listen to him. but there are boundaries of what congress and the administration is planning to do at this point. >> josh, let me go to you. you are posted up, of course,
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over in europe. i know you've got some exclusive access. you spoke with the chief of the iaei. talk to me about what you learned and what you saw. >> reporter: hallie, the good news, according to the iaei chief is that nuclear power plants today are built much stronger than they were in the 1980s when they had that chernobyl incident. raphael grossi said they're built to withstand an airplane flying into them. the bad news is this is a war. it's very unpredictable and there's a lot that could happen that could go wrong including, as he pointed out, the issues we've seen where power lines have been knocked out and suddenly you have to wonder, okay, how many days of backup fuel do they have for generators to keep spent nuclear material cool enough that there isn't radiation leaks. grossi also brought up another scenario which he said if it
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happened would be unchartered waters. >> what scenario in ukraine is keeping you up at night right now? >> the scenario keeping me up is the possibility of an attack or an episode where wittingly or unwittingly there could be a direct impact to any of the facilities. when you are in an armed conflict, an active armed conflict these things can happen any time. >> reporter: if there were that kind of a major incident, hallie, grossi tells us that there's the possibility that radiation could spill over, not only into civilian populations, but potentially over borders into other parts of europe. but the most immediate challenge right now is the fact that the world doesn't exactly know exactly what's happening with the nuclear sites in ukraine, in part because the russians have taken some of them over, in part
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because they're no longer getting data from some of the radiological sensors at chernobyl. grossi saying that's why it's urgent he be able to send his own nuclear experts, boots on the ground, as he put it, into ukraine not only to monitor the situation on behalf of the international community, but also to help keep those sites secure as this war continues to rage on, hallie. >> josh lederman, kristen welker, leigh ann caldwell, thank you to the three of you. coming up after the break, we'll put someone who will be at president zelenskyy's virtual address, tom malinowski. plus a look at how difficult the journey to safety is through the story of one teen and his grandmother. the breaking news coming in just now on one of president biden's controversial nominees who has just withdrawn her name from consideration. weave got one of our teams scrambling to a camera. we'll bring it to you after the break.
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a little bit of breaking news coming in to a couple hours ago. sarah bloom raskin, we talked about her nomination to the fed board. she has withdrawn her candidacy after a somewhat partisan showdown, although it was a democrat who seems to have dealt the death blow. it seems like the final straw was senator manchin. this has been long simmering drama. republicans opposed her because of her energy policy. manchin came out yesterday saying he would not back her. the white house just didn't have the numbers, right? >> reporter: hallie, you're exactly right. the votes were not there to get her confirmed. the irony is sarah bloom raskin served on the fed's board of governors before being confirmed by a voice vote. also confirmed by a voice vote as deputy treasury secretary. the white house thought this would be an easy win for them.
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ultimately she faced such intense opposition from senate republicans over a range of issues, but lately and most specifically about her stance on climate change. "the new yorker" had a copy of her resignation letter in which she was unapologetic about believing that climate change presents a risk to our economy and risk to financial stability and should be something that the fed takes into cars. but senator joe manchin, a democrat from west virginia, said that was just a straw too far for him and he could not support her nomination because of the way she views energy and because he is so concerned about inflation right now. after he came out opposing her, it became clear very quickly that there would not be any republicans that would take his place to back her. >> thank you. great to see you on capitol hill with that piece of developing news. more now on preparations for president zelenskyy's address
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tomorrow. the white house press secretary saying this about expectations for that address which may raise the stakes around his calls for more support since this will be made available to networks like ours for viewing online. >> we expect, as we should, president zelenskyy to ask for more money. we're in touch with his team on a daily basis. we're not waiting to hear tomorrow what may be on his mind. >> with me democratic congressman tom malinowski, member of the foreign affairs and homeland security committees. thank you for being back on the show. good afternoon. >> thank you so much. >> congressman, what are you prepared to push for after getting ready to listen to president zelenskyy tomorrow. what is in the helm of possibility when it comes to more support for ukraine that you anticipate coming down the pipeline? >> there's more we can do. we should start by acknowledging the power of what we've already done and not discount it. with the support that we have given ukraine, the arms we have
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given these brave ukrainian fighters, they have killed more russian soldiers in less than 20 days than we lost in iraq and afghanistan in 20 years. we have sanctioned the russian economy back to the 1930s in just a couple weeks. this is extraordinarily powerful. it's one of the reasons the ukrainians are having success in the field. i expect president sernz to appreciate that but ask for more as he should. he has been talking understandably about closing the skies over ukraine. there's nothing that can close the skies to all of the missiles, the rockets, the artillery shells that are raining down on ukrainian cities. we need to be realistic about that. but we can and should get them more advanced anti aircraft systems, the s-300 system in particular, which a lot of our eastern urine allies have. i'm forgiving them these mig fighters as well. although this is not the
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game-changer a lot of people hope it is. >> i know many members of the problem solvers caucus are backing this call for the u.s. to help facilitate -- new call to facilitate the transfer of those mig fighters from poland to ukraine. do you think zelenskyy's address could help turn the tide on that issue. i heard you say it's not the game-changer, i've heard that from others as well, but it is something zelenskyy has been asking for. >> yes. we asked for it when he spoke to many of us in congress about a week ago. so we know there's nothing new about that request. many of us have encouraged the administration to facilitate it. but i just -- i want people to be realistic about this. the ukrainian air force, they have these planes. they're not flying them very often because the russian air defenses are lethal and because, frankly, there are other ways and probably more effective ways of taking russian aircraft out of the skies. other ways to deal with the
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artillery and the rocket fire that is the number one cause of the devastation that the ukrainians are suffering right now. so, again, i want to give them everything they need, even if it's the less important stuff. but the most important thing i think right now in the administration, and they say they're doing this, scour the world for every advanced piece of anti aircraft system that we can give them, the drones, the offensive drones that are taking out the russian artillery and tanks and more of the antitank weapons that they've used to such lethal effect. >> you have legislation on seizing the assets of russian oligarchs. there's also this bipartisan group of senators that has introduced the idea of potentially cash rewards, green lighting that for information that leads to the seizure and arrest of the oligarchs that have been sanctioned. is that something you can get behind? >> i totally support that. in terms of my legislation which also was introduced in the senate today. you've seen those $600 million
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yachts, they can pay for rebuilding a lot of ukraine. a $1 billion soccer team owned by a russian oligarch in england, that can pay for a lot of rebuilding ukraine. i want to give the administration the authority, not just to block those assets, but to seize them and use that wealth that was stolen in russia to help the people that russia is devastating in ukraine today. >> you are, of course, on the foreign affairs committee. so i want to ask about ukraine's bid to join nato essentially. do you think it would make a difference in what's going on right now if ukraine did drop that bid as russia has demanded that they do? do you think that would be appropriate or the best next step for ukraine? i know there's little appetite i think for that in the west? >> it's totally up to them. we shouldn't encourage them or discourage them. but my personal view is that it would make absolutely zero difference. ukraine in 2010 did drop its
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demand to join nato. they passed a law, a resolution of their parliament saying we don't want to join any military alliance, and putin invaded them anyway in 2014. this is not about nato. this is about putin wanting to extinguish ukraine as a successful, independent democratic country. personally i don't think it would make any difference. >> congressman tom malinowski, thank you for your time this afternoon. i'm sure you're looking forward to hearing in president zelenskyy tomorrow as we all are. >> thank you. the social media page pretending to be that of a russian activist and the story of how our team debunked it. the story of one ukrainian grand mother who ran west with her grandson to try to find safety. that's next. throughout history i've observed markets shaped by the intentional and unforeseeable. for investors who can navigate this landscape,
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connected to this moment that went viral that i reported on the "today" show this morning. >> we had your report over on news now. these videos popping up on social media from the war in ukraine. this time we're looking at viral videos of civilians in ukraine and russia. that's this first one. we'll tell you how our social news gathering team makes sure the videos you seen on team are the real deal, are happening. this has been going around on social media. you had it on the "today" show. verified at nbc news by our teammate showing an anti-war protester interrupting a russian broadcast on state tv. it turns out this is actually an employee of that news station. her sign here says "no to word. stop the propaganda and you're being lied to."
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some people wondered is this real. right after this it starts to go viral. here is something not connected to it. a twitter account claiming to be that woman that you just saw popped up. our teammate, matthew mulligan was able to debunk this account. notice the huge debunked by nbc news. the fake account was created just this month, march 2022 as of a few days ago this account was tweeting as someone else. all red flags showing this is, in fact, a fake account. i want to turn to more heartwarming video of ukrainian refugees. these are kids in italy, being welcomed to a school they are joining in italy. this is verified by our teammate mateo on our nbc news social news gathering team. mateo was able to verify this one by finding posts from the families of these kids. he geolocated the school seen at the start of that to make sure it is the school in italy that this post claims. our teams are using google maps
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all the time, the same google maps you have at home. these videos shared across youtube, young violinists in ukraine playing in old folks homes playing between blasts. look at this huge mosaic, more than 90 players from other countries actually. the organizers of this moment pointed out in their youtube posts that, quote, more ukrainians wanted to take part but now have guns in their hands instead of violins. we will keep on verifying this video for you and bringing it here, showing the incredible work of our social news gathering team. even these moments like this making sure they are what we think they are. >> we appreciate moments like that. we also have difficult moments to report on here, difficult moments for everybody covering this war for our colleagues overseas. today we're learning a cameraman for fox news who was hurt in ukraine along with a correspondent for fox has died. in a statement fox says pierre
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passed away after being hit by incoming fire on the outskirts of kyiv. this coming days after the death of another mayor kwan journalist, brent renaud. story of another civilian casualty, not from a barrage of rocket fire but one grandmother's sheer exhaustion, having traveled from eastern ukraine after reaching the relative safety of the western part of the country. here is nbc's ali arouzi with that story. >> reporter: 17-year-old, vlad and his grandmother's passage to safety turned into a desperate scramble to save their lives. it didn't go as planned. the strain of it became too much. luboff worried for her pet cat collapsed just after arriving in lviv by bus. >> when we went out from the bus, she became bad.
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she has some problems with heart, and i went to the medical center and asked for their help. >> reporter: an overwhelmed vlad found that help from the samaritan's purse, an american charity with a health clinic helping the displaced at a train station in lviv. >> we ran over literally and started administering aid. she had a pulse when she got there. she was weak, sweaty. >> reporter: no time for a stretcher. a nurse named peter lichted her on his back and ran to the medical tent. >> it's not perfect, but when you're in a crisis, you do what you have to do. >> reporter: vlad was already emotional. he had to leave his parents behind. >> i'm really nervous. i hope that all will be okay, and i think that i did everything what i can to help my
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grandmother. >> reporter: he told huss grandmother's name lubof means love in ukrainian. >> she wants to stay home but it is very dangerous because every day their attacks are more -- are bigger and bigger. we'll stay here my grandmother don't want because she think that in other countries she can't live because she loves ukraine. >> reporter: the medics stabilized her. >> where is the cat? >> the cat is right here. >> she was taken into a waiting ambulance. it didn't drive off. from outside we could see it bouncing up and down. again, her vitals dropped. this time nothing could be done. she couldn't be saved. >> vlad broke down, the bombs and bullets may not have killed his grandmother, but the stress
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of war did. >> what's next for you, vlad? what are you going to do now? >> i don't know. i called my mother. she will come here. >> lviv was meant to be a safe place for vlad and his grandmother. the trarj difficult etched onto his face. he clutched on to her few belongings and her cat, devastated at the loss. the future uncertain. >> ali arouzi reporting. i want to bring in former syrian and laeb nondirect tore for the white house and national security council, former spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the u.n. you have, i know seen humanitarian efforts from other places over the years. what do we need to see now? >> well, the good news is you have a lot of money going to these areas, a lot of organizations that have gone to these areas. they're in poland, slovakia, et cetera. they're working together and
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pouring in. the aid package you saw from the u.s. government alone, over $13 billion signed last week, and that encompasses everything. that's military aid, humanitarian aid, aid to seize assets from oligarchs that. is an impressive number and it is very swift which is amazing. the only thing that i get concerned about is that there's no amount of preparation that you can pursue to prepare for how bad things could become given how president putin will pursue his side of the war, how aggressive he will become, and that's the message i keep giving, given my experience handling syria, that you should assume for the worst, prepare for the worst, and one of those ways is beefing up that humanitarian side of things. it does look like they're doing a good job doing that. >> i'm glad you talked about that. i know you've been writing about this. the echoes you are seeing now
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from what you witnessed in your work on the conflict in syria with what we're seeing now. what about the brutality of russia's tactics. at least three journalists killed in the first couple weeks of this invasion. what does that say to you compared to other conflicts you've looked at and studied? >> dictators fighting in a war is completely different than any other democratic or non-dictaor player in a war. they have different ground rules in that they don't have ground rules. they have no regard for civilian life, they certainly don't respect the press in a conflict and they stop at nothing. they will bulldoze a country and fight until the last man is standing if it means they can win. winning for them is very different than how we would perceive it. when i talk about -- sometimes i say we have to do everything in our power. so armying the ukrainian military to the teeth and
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thinking of credible things that we can negotiate with with putin to get him to step down so he can think of a win in his mind. when i say we need to do that, it's because dictators don't stop at anything, and no matter how gross the miscalculation is, it doesn't matter they'll collapse or lose any time soon. it doesn't mean they'll get assassinated and we learned that handling syria. today is the anniversary of when the syria crisis started 11 years ago. so it's important talking about it now. i hope we can apply these lessons to ukraine, the bottom line being don't let this linger in any way because the longer it lasts, the more complicated it becomes and the more difficult it becomes to end it. >> thank you so much for your expertise and your perspective this afternoon. it's good to see you. next up here on the show, is it possible some of the 2024 republican hopefuls are cooling to former president donald
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but with aura digital security, my devices are protected in like 3 minutes. protect your wifi, credit, passwords and more. try for free at aura.com i should buy this... oooh socks! to the pandemic now. with congress looking to lift restrictions and the white house putting in place a serious new warning. less than an hour from now the senate expected to pass a resolution that would take a step in undoing the federal regulation that requires masks on public transportation. this is the regulation you know that just got extended through april 18th. it's the one that says if you're flying, at an airport like the people on screen, you have to have a mask on. it means even if it made it to the president's desk, he's probably not likely to sign it. the administration saying that money to fight the pandemic is starting the run out and orders for things like vaccines, booster shots, testing could be canceled if congress does not
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authorize new money soon. >> we've outlined severe and immediate consequences that the united states will face if congress fails to provide us with $22.5 billion in emergency funding to fight covid-19. those consequences are dire. fewer monoclonal antibodies sent to states and inability to purchase additional treatments, fewer tests available to americans, less surveillance for future variants and a risk of running short on vaccines. >> you'll remember billions of dollars were supposed to be in the huge spending package that passed the house last week until it was stripped from the bill after objections from lawmakers. i want to bring in nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli. so mem, talk about the programs on the chopping block? does this public campaign from the white house on this topic amount to basically a pressure tactic against congress here? >> reporter: that's right, hallie. it's important to start with how we got into this mess. the president an hour ago signed
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this big funding bill that helps keeps the lights on and funds additional programs including the ukraine aid, more than $15 billion in fact, through the end of the fiscal year. as you say, the president, the democrats had to strip out the covid funding that the president asked for because of a last-minute snag. it was very much of a surprise to democrats in the final hours of this. so the white house today really underscoring the urgency of what they're asking for by offering some very specific things that would be on the chopping block, things like they would not have adequate resources to fund potentially a fourth booster shot. we know pfizer is applying for that authorization. it would not be able to fund anymore, a program that funds for unvaccinated -- uninsured individuals vaccines and testing requirements. it would hurt efforts to fund the global vaccine effort. it would have to curtail surveillance efforts to track new variants as they've merge. so the white house very deliberately offering very specific information because there has been a very general
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opposition on the part of republicans on capitol hill. the top republican on the appropriations committee saying he's not convinced they need more funding. that's why the house is putting this up. you have to consider where we are in covid. the president of the state of the union address. at the same time we are still seeing that the white house is very closely monitoring an uptick in cases, especially overseas in china and in europe. we tend to know that these are lagging indicators that tend to come to the u.s. weeks after we see the numbers spike in europe. the white house wants to be on the record at this point saying they need these resources and pressing congress to try to get it done. >> mike memoli live outside the white house. mem, thank you. while we're looking for that vote on the hill, the senate voted in the last hour to do something kind of interesting. it's not happening yet. they're looking to make daylight saving time permanent as soon as next year. meaning, you know how you
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switched your clock over the weekends, you wouldn't have to do that anymore. it would make the afternoons in the winter a little brighter, the mornings a little darker. i want to bring in correspondent leigh ann caldwell. talk about something that affects most americans, unless you live in arizona or hawaii. to say we're officially done with daylight saving is weird. what's the deal? >> i think every parent with young children would jump up and down with this news. as you know, kids' body clocks don't change very easily. the senate passed by unanimous consent, there was no vote, all 100 senators agreed to keep daylight savings time. this is something that is bipartisan. it has 17 co-sponsors, republicans and democrats, and the top republicans in the senate, they were gathering with reporters when this happened on
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the senate floor. senator john thune, the number two, who is responsible for counting republican votes had no idea this happened. he was even shocked that it passed. he said it's something that pretty much everyone agrees with. so, of course, as you mentioned, it then goes to the house of representatives. we have no update yet if the house is going to take up this bill. if they do and it passes, then it goes to the president's desk where they could either sign it into law or veto it. i have a feeling if he were to veto it, that would be overruled, given how popular this idea is on capitol hill, hallie. >> is this real? it sounds like it is. it could be something that actually really passes sometime soon-ish? >> reporter: it could. it's something that every day light savings time -- every time the clock is about to shift, there's members of congress who come to the floor and rale about the time change. they bring up legislation. this is something that happens
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every year twice a year, and finally legislation, this bill, has passed. again, like you said, it has to go to the house, but it is real and it could happen. we'll zoo where this goes, hallie. >> stay tuned for that exciting. thank you so much. appreciate that. we're in a midterm year, obviously. you have folks looking ahead to what happens in 2024 and that presidential race. and some republican leaders changing their tune a bit on former president trump, leaning more into attack mode than they have before. team like arkansas senator tom cotton, florida governor ron desan sis, prison reform, "politico" reporting that governor desantis saying that he wished he had spoken out much louder against former president trump's support for restrictions in the opening days of the pandemic. senator cotton called the former president's first step back the worst mistake of his tenure. even the former vice president,
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mike pence, criticizing his obsession with the election results. elections are about the future and we cannot win by fighting yesterday's battles or by relitigating the past. all of it as the same -- let's say potential candidates, right, people who may be interested in dipping a toe into the '24 waters, still try to walk a line between praise for the former president and forging their own path. with donald trump still leading the path in projected polling. joining us now is the political reporter behind this story. alex, great to see you on the show. thank you for being with us. tell us more about this reporting. it seems to me it's all about threading that needle between, you know praising donald trump publicly and also trying to say i'm my own man. i can walk my own path on this. >> right. here's the thing which is the reality is that as you know, republicans spent the last six years largely praising donald trump but now those republicans
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who are not donald trump who are looking to run for -- run for president 2024 are trying to forge their own identities. if they're interested in running, they need to step out of the shadow a little bit. that means they need to differentiate themselves from him. i need to signal to others in the party that you're serious about doing that. that means you are willing to take jabs at the former president. >> what's interesting too is when you look at the polling, let's be real, 2024 is still a long way away. the guy with the biggest name recognition is donald trump. there is a few pieces of data. a few data points we can look to, like, for example, texas. what we just saw on the texas primaries this month. a lot of candidates that the former president endorsed got to win their race, they got to runoffed.
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how much does that make a difference? >> there's no question if trump ran today, he's talking openly about taking a look at running again. there is no doubt really anyone's mind that he would win the republican nomination. what a lot of the 2024 candidates have to hope is some cracks start to show in the facade. whether trump's support softens or whether he loses the endorsed captain dates he has and they fall short and lose which may show weakness. will we'll see how this develops over the next year. you won't see this take off until after the midterms in the start of 2023. the hope is for some of the 2024 candidates from their perspective, is that trump's support starts to soften and they may have an opening in some way. >> alex, great to you have on talking us through your
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reporting. thank you for. that appreciate it. >> thank you. >> right now as we speak, vice president hair sis at the white house for a summit with some of the women's national soccer team to celebrate equal pay day. just a couple white house vents for the team today. they're joining president biden later on tonight. the reigning world champ's fresh off a big win off the pitch after a settling a paid discrimination lawsuit last month. it was a historic settlement, $24 million. the goal was to equalize pay between the women players and male counterparts. you know, it's -- let's talk about it on equal pay day. the settlement is a big win for those players. there are implications for other women athletes for, you know, women in leagues even professional leagues, in the workforce, if you will, outside of the arena of sports. >> yeah. i think that's been such a huge goal for this team, right? not to go for a pun right off the bat. they have always talked about their equal pay fight going far beyond the field and not just
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with other sports. but also beyond that, right? they have teamed up with organizations on the equal pay front. and now that the settlement is mostly behind them, there is a caveat. the they're going to be able to take the time and discuss other areas that they might be able to impact. >> where does the fight go next? >> you know, i think from a soccer point of view, the next big part of this is really fifa. they're in the works for collective bargaining agreement with the u.s. soccer. that is the one last piece of this that needs to come through on the equal pay front. but then after that, they can turn themselves to international women's soccer and try to equalize the global game. i just talked to someone about that. it is very front of mind. again, they have just partnered their union with fifa to do small funds and loans for small business owners in america. they've got a lot on their plate that they can go to next. >> what about folks in washington? whether it's members, you know,
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of congress, whether it's the white house, what do they need to be doing in your view and reporting to try to help this? >> you know, i think really the next push is we just also got to collective bargaining agreement in the end through the work of the union and the executive director. and now it's really trying to figure out, i think, player safety has also been a big part of my reporting obviously over the past year. you know, i think that there is still investigations on going within the women's soccer world. and safety and payment and compensation, all of these things tied together. and that's maybe where we can see a little bit more work and support from washington, d.c., on this front. >> meg, great to have you on. thank you for talking us through that on an important day, equal pay day. thanks. st we want to turn to breaking news. some difficult breaking news to report here. i want to bring in our reporter in ukraine. we just learned, we talked about the deaths of three journalists already. fox news is now confirming the death of a fourth journalist,
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sasha ko shchlt anova. who is she and what happened? >> that's right. she was a fix we are the fox team. they were in kyiv. she was only 24 years old. they have confirmed she has been killed as well. you're reading the messages on her post that she was a woman that would love music, wanted to connect people around the world. as a ukrainian, the devastating story of what is happening in her country. so the three of them, there was the reporter benjamin who was shot, had is camera man passed away in the fix and it just shows how mercilessly the russians are hitting these cities and indiscriminate natalie. this is a string of journalists that are being hit here. we know about brent arnault, the journalist and filmmaker killed the other day along with his
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colleague who is being treated for his injuries in hospital. the sky news reporters were injured earlier on. they talked about them being a very experienced person. these are not inexperienced people. they know how to navigate around difficult places. they still got caught up in this very, very sat situation. >> it's devastating to hear about. people sending condolences to family and friends of those fox workers. thank you so much, ali. we appreciate you being with us. we appreciate you all for joining us for this hour. "deadline white house" is right after this quick break. e white after this quick break ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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