today. she also however did cancel some publicly planned events out of quote an abundance of caution. president obama tested positive for covid a couple days ago. he said he had a scratchy throat but other than that, feels fine. "the reidout" is next with joy reid and samantha power. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with russia's assault against ukrainian civilians as the number of refugees tops 3 million in a matter of weeks, many are facing food and medicine shortages with the constant threat of deadly shelling and air attacks. according to the telegram channel of a ukrainian official, about 20,000 people left mariupol through a humanitarian corridor while kyiv under fire has imposed a new curfew as the

mayor braces the city for a difficult and dangerous moment. >> the spirit right now, everyone is angry. i talk to the people. they don't want to leave. international criminal case. what russians do it with civilian people in our country? >> the increasing assault comes as three european union leaders travel by train to kyiv in a show of solidarity. here is video posted of zelenskyy meeting with the prime ministers of the czech republic, poland and slovenia. president volodymyr zelenskyy continues to drum up support from leaders abroad. here he is today in a virtual address to canadian lawmakers. >> they already killed 97 ukrainian children. we're not asking for much. we're asking for justice for real support, which will help us

to prevail to defend to save life, to save life all over the world. >> the ukrainian president is set to make that pitch to the u.s. congress tomorrow morning as cities and towns are reduced to rubble. as casualties mount including the deaths of two journalists working for fox news, we're reminded the invasion has and will continue to be a war against civilians. >> [speaking foreign language] ci. >> [speaking foreign language] . >> for those who couldn't catch the subtitles, some of what this ukrainian woman is saying we're bombed during the day and night and we're peaceful civilians and it's a nightmare what russia is doing. russia did the same to syria

when bashar al-assad used many brutal tactics now seen in ukraine. in a powerful rebuke that went viral, samantha power accused assad and his russian and iranian allies of putting a noose around civilians. >> your barrel bombs and mortars and air strikes have allowed the ilitia to encircle tens of thousands of civilians in your ever tightening noose. it is your noose. three member states of the u.n. contributing to a noose around civilians. it should shame you. instead, by all appearances, it is emboldening you. you're plotting your next assault. are you truly incapable of shame? is there literally nothing that can shame you? >> joining me now is samantha

power, the administration tore of the united states agency for international development. administrator power, thank you so much for being here. i'm pleased to get the chance to talk with you. you began your career as a journalist and covered the sort of wars and horrors and have taken place in bosnia and rwanda, sudan. do you see the same war crimes what is happening in ukraine? >> when you intentionally strike civilians, it's a war crime, it's fairly straightforward, and it is very clear and you see in city after city the tactics that the russian federation are employing are consistent. they are denying food, medicine, water into civilian areas and they are shelling residential

buildings, maternity hospitals, more than 31 medical facilities that had been verified probably more once there is more access granted. so it is historic as anything i've seen in my life and career. >> do you think that the impunity with which russia has been allowed to operate in places like syria, the fact their mercenaries operated in zimbabwe. there is no repercussions for bashar al-assad with the help of russian forces. do you think that that impunity communicated in someway to putin that he could get away with this and that might be the problem, that he needs to be personally sanctioned for what is happening? >> well, as you know, he has been personally sanctioned as has the russian economy and so many sources of wealth and income for the oligarchs that

surrounded and enabled and embedded putin. you know, our focus is on keeping this unprecedented coalition together. not with standing the gas attacks and attacks on aleppo, there was a lot more division than now. you could not have mobilized the kind of u.n. journal assembly rebuke that ambassador thomas green field mobilized along with the ukrainian colleagues just a week ago. so this unity, this squeeze on the russian economy is in position of cost. the strategic failure as russia secures a tactical success and may reap terror but vladimir putin isn't able to achieve his objective in ukraine. >> will he ultimately go the way

in theory try for the war crimes for what he's done? >> you know, life is long and i can't speculate. i wish i knew what was coming tomorrow, never mind the distant future. what is important is we in the u.s. government and european friends are funding the partners we have been funding for years as they moved in a democratic direction, as they sought to integrate their economy with europe as they sought to build the rule of law and end the kind of impunity of officials in the russian government enjoy. those same groups that we've been funding for years for those purposes, many of them turned their sights to gathering evidence knowing that the international criminal court announced that it plans to open the investigation, knowing that the human rights counsel last week created a commission of inquiry where a lot of that evidence will ultimately be funneled. so there is personal accountability for individuals

that had assets frozen, who won't be able to travel. we've seen depreciation and access to the perks that being friends with putin had -- that they enjoyed before. this other accountability lies in the future but we need to build the evidentiary record now. >> we have a piece of video of yourself in bosnia back in the day in your diplomatic career and, you know, just to compare the amount of devastation and number of refugees and displaced persons being created now, there you are. the wars created 2.4 refugees and 100,000 people were killed and moving from 2011 to today.

we have 3 million refugees in several weeks. is it even possible because if you do the math three weeks from now it could be 6 million people. how do the surrounding countries. >> this is a country of 44 million people that putin has sought to invades and appears intent on trying to destroy and displacement we're seeing right now i've never seen in my career. it's not only the 3 million you mentioned that will field into europe and across the border but so many journalists are gathered, it's the 2 to 3

million internally displaced. so over 10% of the population of ukraine displaced and we're a little two weeks into the war. this is something we need to look ahead. we need to prepare for much larger influxes if some of the bigger towns for example in the south were to be attacked that could mean another million people coming into further into europe if you started to see larger scale evacuations being allowed because remember, the russian federation isn't allowing whole sale evacuations in the east the way international law demands they do. but you're right, you could see the numbers that we're seeing now pale in comparison to a week. it is possible for the front

line states, especialy moldova a country that never fielded a refugee field like this before at capacity with 130, 140,000 people with ukraine living in moldova but several hundred thousand more passed through moldova on to romania and further into europe. you will see more and more people entering poland and then going to germany, going to spain, going to a country of origins to ireland, that is welcoming on a per capita basis and i'm sure there will be questions beyond that if this refugee flow continues but that is why our focus is on changing putin's calculous here and now just as the ukrainian president's focus is in sitting down for diplomatic talks in the hopes that deescalation can be achieved and that peace can be brought to this country before you start to see the doubling, the triple, the quadruple

population of the flow now. >> we saw due to the violence that took place in syria, again, violence in part fueled by putin and his military, you saw an exitodus that destabilized governments because people didn't want the people largely muslim to come in. brexit happened because of migration. do you foresee this migration becoming destabilizing politically in europe and should the united states and great britain take more refugees from ukraine? >> well, as you know, we have of course, it goes without saying extended the visas of ukrainians present here under tps and i think so farer we're not hearing from the ukrainians crossing the

border other than those with select family members in the united states but we're not hearing an outpouring of a desire to go further afield. remember, these families have left their husbands, sons and fathers behind and want to stay close and above all, they want to go home. they expect to win the war and expect to return to their homes and get about the business of rebuilding and i know that feels a long way off looking at some of the gasly images from today but that is the conviction of the people who are there. if we start to see the kinds of population flow that we were referring to earlier, absolutely. i think every country has to consider, you know, what it's share of the responsibility is to welcome individuals who are part of that flow but for now, again, europe is managing this with great generosity and, you know, in a spirit of unity that you're right, we didn't see with regard to prior flows. in terms of the american

domestic political welcome, usually historically the question of whether to welcome large numbers of refugees is polarizing. it was poarizing during world war ii and 1956 when hungariens were flying soviet tanks and polarizing when vietnameseboden after the vietnam war. so far in europe it not polarizing and i hope the unity we've seen on capitol hill, the bipartisanship and congressional delegations go to the border and hear the stories firsthand could allow us to maintain to be in that solidarity over time. >> indeed. i neglected to mention of course, afghanistan is that became a question of how many people would be welcome there. 20 years fighting a war there and again, there was this question of how many we would welcome. samantha power, i don't have time to ask you about being sanctioned with putin.

you're on a list with hillary clinton who had a great line about it, about whether or not people would -- you're not going to spend all of your rubles. you're on a long list of people that have been sanctioned. i won't ask you about it. i'll leave it there. samantha power, thank you for your time. up next on "the reidout," the efforts to undermine the russian propaganda machine and harsh measures. also, a republican congressman called them tourists. now a document revealed in the indictment of a former proud boys leader reveals a detailed plan to storm government buildings on january 6th and putin may have unleashed the secret group on ukraine but the reemerging of the wagner group tells us a lot how badly things are going for the russian military. as we go to break, look at the stirring performance of the

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as the war in ukraine heads into a third week the kremlin has been working over time to bolster the propaganda machine. two dozen independents have been forced to shut down or chosen to halt operations. that's not surprising after the kremlin passed a law making it a crime punishable up to 15 years in prison for reporting anything the russian government considers quote fake news about the military. it could be the fate of an editor at russia state run television network who protested

the war during the live news broadcast yesterday. marina was in court today and fined 30,000 rubles or about 300 american dollars for a video message she recorded before her on air protest. there is no word yet on what charge she will face for the actual protest. "the daily beast" report there is are others that dareed to veer away from the government's talks points on russian tv. some pleading with putin to stop the war before sanctions bring down the country. joining me now is julia davis for "the daily beast." give us details about this. it's incredibly brave. i thought what she did was incredible. she walks out and does this physical protest but she was smart enough to record a video before hand and send it to a human rights group so we can understand what they were doing. how prevalent are those kind of protests or are they increasing

in number? >> i have been watching russian state media for years and monitoring what happens there. i've never seen anything like it. i was incredibly stunned by her bravery. but there are cracks in a facade of the russian state media even though it is extremely tightly controlled by the kremlin where prokremlin pundits are starting to question the invading of ukraine and calling for the bloodshed to stop. >> and do you think that these protests, i don't know if you're able to sort of tell how much they breakthrough and how much of the russian population, because as reporters have been telling us, if you go out into the rural parts of the country, people are much more relying on state media. do you think the truth about the war is getting out in a large

way? >> i think it is. what she did definitely brought it to millions of people. i would at least make them question what is going on, what is so severe and serious that this woman would essentially throw away her future to expose it and speak out against it. >> in your "daily beast" article you talk about some of the really absurd things that are being said on russian state tv. this is from your article. we should be think -- this is a russian parliament member known as the kremlin's spin doctor went on state television with the wild demands. we should be thinking about reparations from the damage that was caused by the sanctions and the war itself because that too cost money. we should get it back. the return of all russian properties, those are the russian empire, the soviet union and current are russia seized by the united states and so on and the host says are you including alaska and fort ross and this man says yes, that was my next point as well as the antarctic.

that belongs to us. it sounds so absurd it's hard to believe anyone if they are officials of state tv would believe it. >> they obviously don't think too much of their audiences and it's desperation speaking and the same kind of desperation that caused them to impose so-called sanctions against joe biden and blinken and hillary clinton. it's ridiculous posturing but at the end of it, i know there is not a thing they can do to us economically and that all they can do is tell their people that are panicking about what is coming for their economy that this won't last long, that as soon as they have their so-called victory over ukraine, the west will get over it, move on and not only lift the sanctions but compensate them for the damages, which is of course, ridiculous but there again, so is the rest of it. >> do you think that the sense

of financial isolation, economic isolation that is setting in in russia where people can't use their atm cards, the codes don't work and people can't even -- you know, do you think that actually breaks through or is that just something that urban russians are dealing with and those dealing with it are leaving and trying to get out of the country but broadly people don't feel it? >> i think people are feeling it quite broadly and that was one of the things that even prokremlin pundits were complaining about and so brazen to say that the russian government is impotent against the sanctions and shouldn't have started what they started in ukraine unless they prepared economically for the fallout. they complain they can't fix cars without the parts and the phones will be unusable and it very much will impact more

things, as well. >> welcome to cuba. they have to drive their current cars for the next 30 years if they keep it up. i wonder whether or not we have nitwhits on television, their own brave journalists are taking risks reporting on the war and being refuted by people on places like their morning show where a lady from "the real world" said we should have done what putin said and we would be fine or tucker carlson, the american spokesman for putin. does that breakthrough in russia? we've gotten a report from mother jones that the kremlin is actually advising state tv to use tucker carlson. do these broader u.s. prokremlin voices breakthrough and what impact do you think they have? >> we were just talking about that very topic actually when they were talking about the impact of the sanctions and there was a doom and gloom in the studio the host said we

might as well lay down and die it's so bad and he said well to lightening up the mood, let's watch a clip of tucker carlson and that was something that is so common lately no matter which channel i monitor on the russian state television, inevitably there will be tucker carlson and one of his friends telling them how smart putin is, how he's out foxing biden in every step, how russia is supposedly not going to be affected by the sanctions and how quickly they can break ukraine's will to resist so he is one of those voices that is constantly being featured there and as you know and have covered before, i have written about it for years because it has been so obvious and so overt, even russian pundits wondered out low how long before tucker carlson gets arrested for being a russian agent. it's a little too much even for

them. >> indeed. it's why we've gone from calling him tuck hams to putin's little helper because he seems to be trying to help. appreciate you. before we go to break, a quick shutout to our "reidout" writer and producer ky and how the struggles echo those of her own family members when they fled north korea 70 years ago. you can read it with other powerful essays online at nbc news think. you should definitely, definitely read it. up next on "the reidout" a judge orders the leader of the proud boys to be detained straight ahead. we'll be right back. detainestdt ahead. we'll be right back. yak. it's flexible if we need to cancel. cancel. i haven't left the house in years. nothing will stop me from vacation. no canceling. (laughs) flexible cancellation. kayak. search one and done.

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a mge ruled today the former leader of the proud boys will remain in jail pending trial. tarrio that stepped down as the right wing militia group was indicted on seven counts related to the insurrection of january 6th including the obstruction of a proceeding. he was ordered by a judge to leave washington one day earlier following his arrest. for burning a black lives matter flag and possessing two magazines of ammunition. the prosecutors say he still led the avanced planning and

remained in contact with other members of the proud boys during the siege. "the new york times" also reported on a document found that contained a detailed plan to surveil and storm government buildings around the capital on january 6th. that's according to people familiar with document titled 1776 returns. while they said it describes the goal of occupying six house and senate office buildings as well as the supreme court, the plan is earear similar. it's unclear who drafted the plan and whether it guided the actions of the proud boys on the day of the siege but the document could help explain why prosecutors chose to charge tarrio with conspiracy even though he wasn't at the capitol during the attack. join me is host of "the talking feds" podcast. this is scary. because this is now beyond what we saw the horrors we saw unfold

at the capitol taking it to other buildings. i want to read a little bit. it broken into these five parts, infiltrate, execution, distract, occupy. the nine-page document recommends recruiting 50 people to enter each of the government buildings and advices protesters to appear unsuspecting and don't look tactical. that's not what they did at the capitol. they went lynch mob but what do you make of this broader apparent conspiracy? >> yeah, so it certainly gives the possibility that tarrio planned a much broader operation that would essentially would have shut down government and remember, we already know that in an encrypted message that very day when his -- the folks that he was leading away from the scene said what do we do now? he said do it again. now, this document, it's got

this kind of military style. it's nine pages. it's a blueprint. it's true we don't know who wrote it yet, et cetera. but the -- when we have these detention hearings, joy, you know, the u.s. has war rooms worth of evidence and they show us slivers and what we know now is a fraction of what they know. so you can bet they are hard at work. right now, this wouldn't be good for trial, but if they find, say, the girlfriend who did give it to him and she says yes, i did that and explains it all, now it is good for trial and by the way, it could actually augment the conspiracy charges. because conspiracies don't have to be successful. they can be attempted. so there is the possibility of actually using this, not just to show his intent for the actual storming of the capitol but to show a broader conspiracy and criminal penalties for it. >> there is also the word that he was saying, we're not going to wear our traditional stuff, we're not going to wear black

and yellow. we'll look non-descript and blend in. the senate and house office buildings and the supreme court, if your goal is not to stop the counting of electoral votes and to pressure potentially the supreme court the way the people at the capitol were trying to pressure the congress. i'm not a lawyer or prosecutor but it sure does sound like that fits in with the overall conspiracy of the january 6th committee is investigating. >> even more, not just to pressure to terrorize because you're right, they stormed the place to stop the actual vote, but if they're occupying same -- simultaneously, they sneak in and boom, they're there. there are justices with lives in danger, senators, anyone in congress, they're essentially a rebel army occupying the

essential, not just buildings but personnel of the capitol, everything but the white house and saying do what we say or else. you can fill in the or else but you can bet that that would have brought the government to a halt and given them much more leverage. i don't know if they thought through to the next stage but this is a true terrorist wide spread plot to do many things at once like 9/11, right? four different venues. they want to terrorize and shut down the government and terrorize the nation. >> it sounds like essentially a hostage situation saying that essentially we're going to, as you said, we're going to stand in the room. some of us may be armed and you're going to make donald trump president or else and they had a noose with them at the capitol. i want to play for you madison

i don't like playing too much of him. he had something to say about the angry orange guy. here he. >> we are arm the. we're in a safe location. we can't disclose where. >> you are arms now. that's a new thing. >> yes, indeed. yes, indeed. so obviously, having the wheelchair i'm able to carry multiple weapons at one time. everyone around me is armed. i think an armed society, i feel very safe. >> corrected by my producers, it is the annoying orange. i don't want angry oranges feel bad. my question there, first of all, you're not supposed to be armed inside the capitol but he's claiming he was on january 6th and based on sort of all the things that he said in his brief political career, i'm not sure who he's aiming the guns at, which side would he be using the guns for? do you think this is something that should be investigated? >> absolutely. look, this is the kind of blood of tyrant sort of second amendment view and we've got

tarrio and others, tarrio said -- he doesn't have a job. he does t-shirts. this is an elected member of the house of representatives trying to, you know, say that we can use guns to make this happen. that's why, by the way, joy, he's been sued in north carolina to be taken off the ballot under this constitutional provision that says you swear an oath and then you engage in insurrection. you can't be in congress anymore. but just take a step back law or otherwise. this is a guy, a congressman aiming to do this very thing. >> yeah, indeed. there is nothing more dangerous than a dangerous stupid armed person. but we will just leave it there. harry litman, thank you. what is the shadow mercenary organization exist but they are operating in ukraine right now. stay right there. operating in ukraine right now stay right there

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by now vladimir putin has made no secret of his appetite for destruction. what he has kept secret is the shadow constellation of mercenaries as forces of destruction. there are credible reports they have presence in ukraine. you probably haven't heard of them and i can't show images of them but that's the point. that are the wagner group. rather, the name describes businesses and groups of mercenaries that are linked by over laps and ownership and logistics. they have been described as being involved in a wide range of activities including protests and spreading disinformation and mining for gold and diamonds and engaging in para military activity. the man in charge of the group

dimitri is a colleague of putin. fontanka published what it says is the only known photo of him. nbc could not verify the image. according to various reports, g the short hand for putin's mercenaries is allegedly tributed to hitler's favorite composure which is ironic because the reason for putin to invade ukraine is denazify ukraine. it is a convenient claim of probability and controlling the forces with zero accountability. they first emerged in 2014 when they were deployed by russia to help fight the ukrainian army in east ukraine. they were there to help russia an next crimea. they have an active in syria,

libya, recently atrocities around the globe including torturing and beheading a syrian soldier and raping women in the central african republic and played a key role in carrying out russian strategic goals by influening various elections. the man funding the group also has close ties to putin. stay tuned. after the break. you'll find out who he is and what he's done to the united states. o he is and what he's do tneo the united states with relapsing forms of . there's a lot to deal with. not just unpredictable relapses. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio. don't take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b,

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violence would not be possible if it weren't for this person, russian all of our kyiv guinea pig ocean. he's believed to be financing the wagner group. the man knows commonly known for being the sausage king of st. petersburg and putin's chef has extensive ties to the russian ministry of defense. which made him a natural choice for managing putin's covert forces. you might recognize the name because he was sanctioned multiple times by the u.s. treasury for financing the internet research agency, better known as the internet troll factory which interfered in u.s. elections in 2016 and 2018. naturally, he has denied any connection to the wagner group. joining me now is aimee mackinnon, national security and intelligence reporter for foreign policy, and malcolm

nance, and bc counter sir terrorism and intelligence analyst and author of the book they want to kill americans. thank you for being here. miss mckenna, welcome to the show. tell us more about this group. because i think people who have paid attention, not all americans have unfortunately, to things that are going on in places like libya, madagascar, and mali, mozambique, they know who they are. but they actually got their start basically in ukraine. can you just talk about that? >> sure, so the wagner group, as we know as a first popped up in ukraine in 2014 when we know from statements, from western governments, from reporting by journalist, and from the soldiers themselves that took selfies while they were there, that the russian military was operating in ukraine, but of course, the kremlin tried to maintain this near plausible deniability and constantly denied that the russian troops there. the wagner group was a very convenient way to bolster their forces there. but to claim no knowledge, to claim that these were, quote, little green men, had no

insignia on them, that they had nothing to do with them. but what we do know about the wagner group that they are closely enmeshed with russian militias -- russian intelligence, and the u.s. government has called them a proxy for the russian military. so there is a strong relationship there. and they've been known, as you say, to pop up in syria, across africa now to advance the kremlin's strategic objectives in these countries, but whilst maintaining this dip plausible deniability so, if things go wrong, like a dust for this group, they can wash their hands. >> where do they come from? if there are operating in all these different countries, one of the theories has been that it's easier for russians to use proxy forces who don't have familial connections in ukraine because they will kill at will. they have no till when it comes to killing people. when russian forces might be hesitant because they might, in some cases, actually be kissing their cousins. is that the idea? where do they come from? >> the vast majority of the buccaneers forces, as far as we know, are also russian

themselves. they tend to be older than your as usual conscript, they're in their late 30s and 40s. a taken from smaller cities across russia where times are hard, where times are tough and people are looking for money. and wagner pays very handsomely. their pay between two and $3,000 which is big money and russia each month. so a lot of these people are ex military who have the skills we're looking to make money. >> they sound like the mercenaries that we have seen, groups in the united states, groups that i guess have the same background. how can they theoretically be used? because it does seem that the russians force -- the forces spent in the sense that they can get around the country, wreak a lot of havoc, but they can't seem to take and hold, especially the capital, or hold a lot of territory. how might they use these forces? >> well, you have to understand, the russians fought up this concept where you give russia their version of blackwater. that's the arab prince live

mercenary group that was operating out of north carolina. then move to china, the united arab emirates, where i was living here for sometime. and i've seen some of these people. slip through the precursors to wapner. full disclosure, i worked in iraq at one point in the late 2010s, and we provided support to lukoil, and there was this militia styled group that was providing deeper security for lukoil than the regulars security guards. very tactical, very heavy. and they kept popping up in other places. libya, for example, which happened after 2014. these are deniability forces. and what they really are, and proxy is a good word, but what they really are is they are subcontractors to the russian military intelligence agency, the gru. this allows them to also cross connects with the as vr, the russian intelligence agency,

their clandestine service, and to operate in public. for example, one interesting thing, they not only modeled themselves after black water, they also modeled themselves after more famous mercenary groups that i actually had to do operations against one's called executive outcomes in sierra leone, and this was the group that the movie blood diamonds kind of mimics. they were literally holding sections of the country hostage and mining for diamonds. and they are doing that now when the democratic republic of congo. they have somehow enchanted the government of mali to get rid of the french army and shift over to p mc walking or. this is money, guns, and a lot of strategic influenced by russia. however, it didn't work out so well for them in syria when they tried to take on 12 special forces soldiers and lost 256 russians dead because

we know how to play this game. and they are amateurs. >> let me ask you what's the worst case scenario amy. if they're operating there and they don't have rules that they have to live by, there's -- i don't know about the russian military. what's the risk a scenario that can do? >> we've seen this most starkly in the central african republic where they've been accused by un groups of just the most gross atrocities, of assaults, of murders, of kidnapping. so, yes, they operate without regard for human rights or for the laws of war. it's deeply concerning. the russian military out self, the russian proper military, is at the moment bombing civilian sites as we know in russia. but the concern about the walking or group is that they are extrajudicial, they don't formally exist, there's no accountability for them. so that raises serious questions about what they may do and if they do, how do you hold a group like this accountable when the state that they come from claims no knowledge of them. >> and what can be done about

that? please do. >> i just want to point out that right now, the city of kyiv is in a 36-hour lockdown. and that's because it's not russians beds nuts, the special forces that are trying to infiltrate the cities. it's guys who came in, deep cover, as civilians could've been there months ago, who are being called saboteurs, that are out marking places, dropping these little cell phone styled marking devices for the russian artillery. and the city of kyiv is on a man hunt for them. and they found the last few groups that have been doing this. these guys are acting like those hollywood characters in the jason bourne movies that are chasing chase and born. and they all view them -- they view themselves as what we call guns forward type mercenaries. they're in it for the big game. they are not actually very good. as saw their operations in libya, i was in the via, and then they were funded by the united arab emirates and other

forces to come and take -- do these operations. and the libyans handed it to them. >> yes. it is frightening. i really appreciate you both being here because we need to understand what is happening full scale in this region. amy, mckinnon, malcolm nance, thank you very much. that is tonight's read out. thanks for being with us. all over with chris ayes starts now. >> tonight on all in -- european leaders head into the war zone to meet with alaska as apartment buildings burn in kyiv as the russian attack continues. tonight, how russian brutality over several years, and multiple countries have brought us to a global reckoning. then, michael weiss on what's really happening to the russian army. masha gessen on propaganda on tv in russia. and former ambassador bill taylor on biden, china, and any hope for a diplomatic solution. all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. we are see