hi there. it's 4:00 in new york today. clarion call for the united states of america to take the place as a leaders of the free world and intervene in the war that threatens to up end the world order coming from the man leading ukraine against that invasion. president zelenskyy making as direct an appeal to the american people and president biden as he's ever made asking for arms, stronger sanctions, and no-fly zone above ukraine and then if that's off the table asking for military assistance to let ukraine protect the air space. his appeal included a video showing the ravages of war on the country. we have to warn it is important

but devastating. it ends with this message. close the sky over ukraine. then president zelenskyy addressed congress in english. we'll play that for you in its entirety. watch. >> and in the end, today, today it is not enough to be the leader. today it takes to be the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace. peace in your country doesn't depend anymore only on you and your people. it depends on those next to you, and those who are strong. strong doesn't mean weak. strong is brave and ready to fight for the life of his

citizens and citizens of the world. human rights, freedom, the right to live and to die when your time comes. and not when it is wanted by someone else. by your neighbor. today, the ukrainian people are defending not only grain, we are fighting for the values of europe and the world in the name of the future. that's why today the american people are helping not just ukraine but europe and the world to keep the planet alive, to keep justice in history. now, i am almost 45 years old. today my age stopped when the hearts of more than 100 children stopped beating. i see no sense in life if it

cannot stop the deaths and this is my main mission as the leader of my people. great ukrainians. and as the leader of my nation i am addressing the president biden. you are the leader of the nation. of your great nation. i wish you could be the leader of the world. being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace. thank you. proud ukraine. >> a speech for the ages. president biden reacted just hours after president zelenskyy called on president biden as you heard there to be the leader of the world, the leader of peace. president biden reiterated u.s. support of ukraine and announced

$800 million in aid. >> i want to be honest with you. this could be a long and difficult battle but the american people will be steadfast in support of people of ukraine in the face of putin's attack on civilian populations. we are united. we are going to continue to have their backs as they fight for their freedom, democracy and survival. we will give ukraine the arms to fight and defend themselves through the difficult days ahead and mobilize relief to support people within ukraine and those who have been forced to flee ukraine. >> in just the last night president biden stepped up the reiterate against vladimir putin saying this. quote, i think he is a war criminal. all of that after the first high levels talks between the u.s. and russia since the war began between u.s. national security jake sullivan and his russian

counterpart. al talks between russia and ukraine tonighted today with both sides expressing optimism. president zelenskyy said that talks are moving in a quote realistic direction. russian foreign minister lavrov said there is quote hope for a compromise. that tone a striking contrast to what we heard today from put who insisted despite the fact that russian forces stalled for days and lost so many troops the war is going according to his plan trying to justify the war in ukraine that spiraled into a full-on humanitarian catastrophe since it began. in mariupol besieged for weeks reports that russian forces hit a theater housing hundreds of civians why doctors say they treat ten civilians for injured

ukrainian soldier. in kyiv, an apartment complex hit in the early morning. the mayor saying today that the war's sparing no one. >> it doesn't matter who you are on the ukrainian soil now. with the press bench a little girl or boy and an adult, men or woman, or an old person. you are a target. from russia. from russian army. >> nbc's richard engel is reporting again today in kyiv where he's been the last couple days and under strict curfew. >> reporter: here in kyiv the streets are quiet except for an explosion on the outskirts. you don't hear any noise because there's a round the clock curfew in place. it began last night in the dark

and extends today until tomorrow morning. as russia is continuing what seemed to be arbitrary and nontargeted attacks into kyiv and other cities attacking an apartment building this morning. as the city of mariupol is facing what is described as a growing humanitarian crisis with president zelenskyy and two other officials saying that russian forces surrounding the city of mariupol in the southeast of this country for days allowing some people to leave but no supplies to enter the city. russian forces patrol parts of mariupol and according to president zelenskyy and officials russians took over a hospital, herded about 400 people inside including patients and hospital staff and are holding them hostage that

russian troops are firing from the hospital building and are not allowing people to come and go with ukrainian officials describing it as russians using those people about 400 as human shields. this obviously comes as ukraine is asking for more humanitarian assistance, more weapons to fight off the russian advance. >> that's our colleague richard engel reporting from kyiv. joining us is ali arouzi. i think it's something that will be studied as one of the most impactful and poignant wartime addresses by a wartime leader the world over for a long time. there's a piece in what he says in english that is searing. he talks about his age and he says there's no sense in life if

it can't stop death, talking about the 150 ukrainian children who have been killed by the russian attacks. the indiscriminate attacks on civilians. i wonder your reporting on the reaction in ukraine to that address. >> reporter: hey. anything that president zelenskyy goes down pretty well with the ukrainian people here. he is a very popular person, skilled diplomat, you saw him in congress today delivering a speech and hit all the right points. we were out on the street today talking to a family who has escaped kyiv. tried to stay as long as they could and finally came here worried about the chirp and speaking about zelenskyy quite sometime and these were well educated couple. they spoke english very well and said when zelenskyy was elected they were very skeptical of him.

they were worried when the war started that it might be an ashraf ghani scenario who fled afghanistan before the taliban arrived and scare zelenskyy would flee and they said exactly the opposite happened and he's a symbol of resistance. >> you know, both of us were not voting for him. >> yeah. >> now he is my hero, frankly. >> for me so. >> he have big balls and that's really cool. and people here now i believe all support him because he is doing what is needed to be done. now. >> reporter: you can see some pretty colorful language describing their hero there but that's across the board here. he is the symbol of resistance

and the speech went down well here with the ukrainian people and they all hit the same notes as he does when he say it is air space needs to be closed ukrainian after ukrainian saying close the air space for us. speaking to military officials saying we can handle the russians on the ground. we can fight them. we know how to fight them in the cities and push them back but they have the superiority on the air over us. hitting us with missiles and planes and that is holding them back. so some of the president biden's promises today have been encouraging for people. zelenskyy didn't get everything he wanted. but a lot of those armaments will help the people here and going to help very ordinary people going to the front line if this becomes a war of attrition. you saw the couple i just spoke to there today. i said what will happen if the

bombing comes here? the mother said i will have to have to get out of here. the husband has no choice but to stay here because anyone between 18 and 60 said will have to fight. he feels a responsibility to do it, to look after his home, his children and the future generations in this country. incredible resilience from these people. who they may not once upon a time but he is now. >> yeah. they were so, so confident in his stewardship over the last 20 days. one of the more impactful things that president zelenskyy was play this video that tells the story that 22 days ago ukrainians were living their lives the way people are in my american city or european city. there was no war in ukraine

before putin invaded and strikes me that this is so new. this is a country that this is a leader and country and people whose lives have changed so completely and brutally. i wonder what that feels like on the ground. >> reporter: it is very difficult for people here on the ground. again the people i spoke to today, a biggest concern is what does the future hold for us? they had very good jobs, a home. they were living the lives in kyiv. now they don't know where the next meal is coming from and the next job, if they will be separated from the family. if the husband has to fight on the front line. these are scars that live with you for the rest of your life going through this displacement. it is very difficult for people here and told me a harrowing

story when they had to leave kyiv they had to leave the nanny who is like a grandmother to the children and she got into a car with her husband and suddenly russian troops came out and killed her husband and shot the nanny in the shoulder. they let her get away and describe to me as the nanny running away a soldier shooting the pavement so debris hit heifer in the back going. it's mercy louse. those little kids kept asking, where is the nanny? where is the nanny? the parents trying to shield them from the realities of what is going on here. first few days in kyiv they had to sleep in their car and on the ground parking of the building saying they turned this into a playground for the children to shield them from the realities of what's going on in kyiv.

you have to go to extraordinary lengths so your children are not devastated by this attack on the ukrainian people. >> such a harrowing story. i didn't think i could read this and still not sure i can but there's new reporting from the associated press on -- this is merciless. this is from the associated press about the youngest victims of russian brutality. the children are durnged into a trench in the frozen earth of mariupol to the shelling. there's 18-month-old whose wound to the head proved too much for the little body. there's 16-year-old whose legs blown up in an explosion in a soccer game. they're stacked together with dozens of others on the

outskirts of the city. each shell that pounds mariupol about one a minute at times drives home the curse of the geography putting it in the path of russian's dominance. the southern sea port has become a symbol of rurp president vladimir putin's drive. how's that brutality changing the ukrainian people? >> reporter: it is scarring them for life. you don't get over experiences like this. those are the stories we are just hearing about and there's stories we don't hear about. we got reports a theater in mariupol where hundreds of penal was taken refuge was bombed heavily. god knows what condition those people are in right now. how many fatalities there. it is a very, very me syless

attack by the russians and goes on day in, day out. doesn't seemed to have dampened the people of ukraine. you may the mayor of kyiv said they can destroy the buildings and not going to destroy the spirit. we'll keep fighting them as long as we can. i spoke to another ukrainian woman the other day. i said are you worried that the war spreads out west and the russians overrun the country. she said the only way to overrun the country if they kill us all. incredible fortitude from here from everybody here despite living under harrowing circumstances and the brutality of the russian attack. >> please stay safe. thank you so much for your reporting. let's bring in the conversation, ben rhodes and he

helene cooper is here. both are msnbc contributors. i saw your reporting earlier in the week and i want to understand the view from general milley. i want to understand what line it is that we're drawing this seems to be shy of exactly what president zelenskyy is asking for and the ukrainians ask for in the interviews and more than what we have done so far giving them the tools to patrol their own skies? is that right? >> thank you for having me. it is quite a line that the biden administration is drawing. they don't want to -- the united states certainly does not want to and does not intend to put in place a no-fly zone.

but they argue and the pentagon argues and the reason why is because pentagon officials don't want to put american pilots in the air to shoot down russian planes. they think that would be a deck la rare of war against russia. what they do -- what they are doing is they are speeding a lot of weaponry to help the ukrainians put in place almost their own sort of no-fly zone. we are getting them sting irs and javelins. and that, that operation has been going on full-on since this military campaign began. you saw president biden's announcement earlier today after president zelenskyy's emotional appeal to congress and you saw the 800 billion that we are now adding that comes after 350 million a couple weeks ago which

came on top of a lot more. since then. so one point with general milley we were on the ukraine border and watched the huge war planes, cargo planes coming in and unloading these javelins sped over land into ukraine and the hands of ukrainian forces who did an astoundingly good job of taking the fight to the russians. nobody thought they would be at this point, nobody thought that three weeks into this russia still would not have managed to take kyiv or even kharkiv which is supposed to fall in six hours, six to 12 hours of the initial invasion. it still hasn't but they pound it into rubble in some places. they still haven't managed to take it. so this is i think the

administration has been almost sort of making things up on the fly because the ukrainian resistance has proved to be so stiff. >> when the -- when president zelenskyy mentioned pearl harbor and 9/11 you could feel the air come out of the room and obviously those are two attacks on our soil that brought our country into war. what was the impact in the building you cover? >> people were riveted to that speech this morning. the invocation of -- president zelenskyy came across as knowing exactly how to play this to an american audience. the references to i have a dream. his references to south dakota and the statues there.

his references to pearl harbor. he was able to i think evoke this feeling of being under attack, of fighting for your lifer and country and willing to lay down your life for your country and appeal to the american wish to defend a rules based world order. it was an emotional appeal and i think people at the pentagon definitely heard him. he's got a lot of fans right now in the building in large part because the pentagon -- people in the pentagon are very much bruised i think from the afghanistan withdrawal and from how quickly the afghan military crumbled from the taliban and they constantly are talking about how the ukrainian military has not crumbled. they talk all the time about the will to fight and how it's impossible to impose the will to

fight in any military or any army. they talk a lot about how vladimir putin has not managed to kind of impose the will to fight on his own military but somehow volodymyr zelenskyy has done it and partly because the people in ukraine fight for their countries, for their land. >> they're fighting, ben rhodes, for all the democracies and president zelenskyy is so skillful to broaden the conflict. it is not his conflict. it is our conflict. you wrote literally the book about this clash between democracies and autocracies. i wonder your reaction to his speech today. >> you get a since that zelenskyy is leading us into a new epic of history. vladimir putin has been at the vanguard of the authoritarianette no nationalist model that swept across big

chunks of the world fueled by corruption, a popularism of cynicism and grievance and when you listen to him, it is an entirely different form of populism. so he's striking the deepest cords in the collective memory of the world's democracies, democracy including our own driven by cynicism and put profit of the democratic values that zelenskyy himself come to embody and what he's done skillfully is embodying the resistance of his people that guarantee that is vladimir putin cannot win this war. i think what's surng in to people and probably people in russia. they cannot subjugate the people and what he's done in enlarging

the conflict is saying we are drawing the line in ukraine. the rising tide of nationalism that always leads to war. this brand of politics, nationalism, in grievance based leadership leads to big wars and he said we're drawing the line here and you have to support us for the sake of not just the ukrainian people but everything you say your countries are about. the words carved into the walls of places like the capitol. i think we know that deep down. particularly in recrept years and he is calling on us to just do what we say and be who we say we are. >> thank you so much for being part of the coverage today. great do see you both. when we come back, a chance to check in with igor in ukraine about what life is like for him today. plus after the sanctions

and the military aid is sent how will the world hold vladimir putin responsible for the crimes we are seeing day after day in the war in ukraine? later in the program, the hunt for oligarch funds and spoils. exclusive new reporting on how a prosecutor plans to track what he calls the fruits of a luxurious life that's ill gained. all those stories after a quick break. stay with us. k break. stay with us yep! every business deserves it... like one's that re-opened! hi, we have an appointment. and every new business that just opened! like aromatherapy rugs! i'll take one in blue please! it's not complicated. at&t is giving new and existing business customers our best deals on every iphone. ♪ ♪ at vanguard,

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our friend igor, former adviser to ukrainian president zelenskyy who remains near kyiv with his family. so i saw in president zelenskyy today a lot of what you bring to our understanding of why you stayed and why you fight and i wonder your reaction to our reaction to president zelenskyy's speech. >> well, first of all, i'm really impressed with the reaction i saw on the hill. i think people are starting to wake up to the fact that the world has changed a lot over the last three weeks and most likely will never be the same again. i'll elaborate on what the president has said. freedom and liberty are nonpartisan so this is the moment in history where we need to forget the party alliance, our like, you know, minor beliefs and focus on what's right for our children and the

future. the second message is about the security architecture. nato's still waiting to be tested by putin but looking at the u.n. russia has the veto power within the security council and like having hitler appoint his judges at nuremberg. it is a petrifying concept. >> there is something about the brutality of russia's indiscriminate bombing of your country and in places like mariupol and i won't read it again but the tragedy in such a volume. the president talked about 150 children are dead and said there's no sense in life if it can't stop death.

i think there's this sense here that we have drawn a line and there's a lot you want and need that your president asked for and the president announce ds in an address answering the speech. tell me how the weapon systems help you protect your skies. >> well look. i mean, the fact of the matter is that ukraine has the most important weapon to find the advance of the authoritarianism to europe and that is our defiance and resolve and belief. we need ammo for that weapon. i'm speaking from experience. it is difficult to fight tanks with sticks and kalashnikovs and it is incredibly horrible to see the cruise missile fly over the

house. i have seen a few and know that it is going to hit a can residential building. they're adamant to kill citizens and you have to watch it fly and pray that it misses. usually they don't. in mariupol it is a horrible story. there was a theater over 1,000 civilians mostly women and children sheltering to leave the city and russia dropped a largest untargeted bomb they have and i bet it's hundreds of women and children. a personal story. i had to live probably through the most horrific experience of the war so far. i have a close relative who's a ukrainian soldier on the front lines since the war started in

2014. you know? he's done i think three or four tours of duty and literally called me two days ago to say good-bye to me because they got ambushed and didn't know if he was going to make it. the only thing that kind of it reminded me of was the conversations from the world trade center towers when the relatives called to say gibtd and exactly like that. they're still fighting but out of the encirclement and i wouldn't wish it on anyone. it's terrible this war. it needs to be stopped. >> your president made i think an impact with everything he said and with the video he showed of some of what we have been covering today. the brutality. the toll paid by civilians and

children and a reminder that 22 days ago we might have talked about something but not your war torn city and country. i wonder what that's like and how your kids are doing on day 21. >> my kids are doing okay. relatively speaking. one of the things that worries me is we had the conversation about their future today and really dawned on me that i don't know what the future holds and not only for us and my family but for the world as a whole because president putin delivered petrifying remarks today and basically named the enemy saying the collective west is the enemy, announced purges within his own society and doesn't sound like he is stopping and sounds very reminiscent of what hitler was

saying a couple years before the second world war and need to stop him in the tracks now before it is too late. once again the only major difference between the 20th century and now is nuclear and chemical weapons and we don't want that to happen. if i may two announcements. i'm trying to make my interviews matter. i'm wears my metallica t-shirt. grateful for donation they've made to needs in ukraine and want to elaborate on a message that the president keeps delivering. look. the only group of people who can stop, you know, a potential global conflict in the tracks is russian people and they're encircles by the walls of propaganda. they ban instagram, facebook,

turning into north korea. only people to reach the russian fans and the russian aide audience are celebrities and i encourage you in the spirit of the 1980s when the u.s.s.r. was still there to get out there an and deliver that message of peace to the fans and explain that any conflict can be worked out without having to resort to genocide and violence and it's important because the russian people can stop everything. if you think it's not seriously, i'm risking my life saying this loud on tv being proactive. so strongly urge you to reach out to the russian fan base with a message of peace before it's too late. >> let's be tactical and tell me what that looks like. i believe telegram channels are

the things most readily available to russians seeking information from the outside world and in russia television is mostly controlled by the government but if you seek outside information that's the best way to reach them? >> i would say telegram channels and certain social media in russia. most musical bands and actors know them in russia and have presence there. the band weapons, banned statements, it is easy to ban instagram or facebook but ban every single homepage of every single band with followers in russia takes time so we have time to prevent it. and happy story because i kind of -- >> please. >> stay positive despite everything. we have been following the destiny of the famous instagram

cat in ukraine. >> yes! >> there's a cat in kharkiv with over a million followers and in major ads and that cat has been missing for two weeks so the last message is 3rd of march i think and since in kharkiv people got worried about the cat. there was a message posted that the cat made it out and is with the owner. made it out of kharkiv to europe and the cat is a refugee. the fact that the cat is a refugee in monaco. >> yes. >> i got the james bond lights and the caviar and the champagne and a cinderella story and a happily ever after after all and something positive to brighten the mood. >> igor, you always come on and try to cheer us up with something. how do you stay cheered up?

are you scared now? >> well, i am but i'm not scared for myself. i'm scared for my family and the people. there is only so many like pictures of dead children you can see before it hits you that you can't do anything about it. that's why i feel really sorry for my old boss and president zelenskyy. he is a humanist so he values human life and has to deal with it on an hourly basis. i don't know what it is like. i don't know whether he can keep doing it without causing damage to his psyche. but, you know, we have to support him and please support people of ukraine because it is really difficult. psychologically it is incredibly difficult so i'll share the positivity as long as i'm here. >> you know you are -- you'll always be allowed here.

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president biden has been very clear he's worried about provocations that could trigger world war iii. do you understand his concern there? do you agree that it wouldn't take much to end up in world war iii? >> translator: nobody knows whether it may have already started and what is the possibility of this war if ukraine will fall, in case ukraine will fall. it is very hard to say. and we have seen this 80 years ago when the second world war had started and similar tragedies in the history and nobody would be able to predict when the full-scale war would start and how it would end and who will putt an end to this. in this case we have this whole

civilization at stake. >> ukrainian president zelenskyy warning that world war iii might have already started laying out what is at stake and not just for his country but the world order speaking there with lester holt. it is the why behind the urgent and emotional plea to congress and president biden today. this just in for us. nbc news confirming earlier exclusive reporting that president biden's military assistance package will include 100 switchblade single use drones according to two officials. those drones are referred in a white house fact sheet as 100 tactical unmanned aerial systems capable to strike from miles away and are too small to be detected by most air defense systems and could cause major disruption to russian forces. let's bring in the conversation congressman himes who was there by that address and back by our

popular request to come back. i wonder and want to ask about what we have given them and the confirmation of the switchblade drones and first reaction to president zelenskyy and the invoking of pearl harbor and 9/11. what was it like? >> it was a masterful, emotional, heartfelt moment for everyone. whoever is doing his information operations is remark up because for him to invoke 9/11 and pearl harbor of which we were unfairly and brutally attacked without provocation. this is not equal but a crime i think was an act of genius as of was that video that everyone has seen reminding us of what is at stake morally and certainly left the congress after that

presentation unanimous around the notion to do all that we can. >> you said yesterday that you are in constant contact with the white house working with them on what that assistance on walking up to the line that the president has drawn. tell me your reaction to what was pledged today by the white house. >> yeah. i think what needs to happen is happening. there's pressure on the white house to, a lot of pressure on the white house to continue consider sending planes. the president of ukraine said i need the planes. i'm a big believer that those can be delivered without being particularly provocative. what you were talking about the switchblades and the united kingdom is adding a version of those things and some ways that's causing the havoc against the russian forces in ukraine right now. very small weapons that are hard to find and see and take out a tank, a piece of artillery and

the russians lost huge numbers of those tanks, people and so this is going to really help the ukrainians be that much more lethal and drive home the message that putin is getting loud and clear that he wandered into a boxed canyon and needs to think about a quick way out of it. >> you have no objection to jets being delivered to -- to planes being delivered to the ukrainians if it's in a way that the white house doesn't feel is a provocation. >> that is my view and been adamant and explaining to people what a no-fly zone. i'll say it again. >> please. >> we spend a week or two taking out russian anti-aircraft capabilitys. not putting pilots in danger. we spend a week or two attacking russian anti-aircraft capability in ukraine and belarus and russia. it is us killing, the united states killing russian troops

inside russia. to me that is a nonstarter. however, the delivery of planes, somebody needs to explain why it's different than a thousand anti-tank guided missiles or the kinds of weapon that is we have the weapons we have been and have been lethal against russian forces. >> i want to ask you about what's going on in russia. my guest is a former advisor to president zelenskyy, says that that's the whole ball game, other than making sure ukraine is well armed, it can defend itself. if we can ask you to stay over, i want to ask you on the other side. >> sounds good. >> quick break for us. we will be right back.

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we are back. congressman, what can you tell us about the intelligence community's assessment of putin's endgame? >> you heard and the public heard last week bill burns tell the world that he believes and that we believe that putin is angry, that he is shocked by what he thought might have been a very short war turning into something that is an immense number of casualties and, of course, the west demonstrating a unity which is forcing the russian economy back into the dark age. that's a real problem for putin, because he already was dealing with dissent at home. mind you, it can get you a

15-year jail sentence in russia. now he has thousands of dead soldiers coming back for a war that i think his people by and large are going to learn more and more is not going to yield anything good for russia. that's a huge political problem for vladimir putin notwithstanding his ability to repress his own people. >> other than arming the ukrainian military to protect themselves and continuing to support them and aid the humanitarian front, the biggest factor is crushing putin with lack of popular support in his own country. when you see the small acts of defiance punished with a big sentence on state media, how difficult is that? >> it is difficult. it requires immense courage. like the woman we saw two days ago what ran that poster behind

a show like we are on right now. a massive act of defiance. interestingly enough, there are lots of cameras in russia. it was interesting to see that woman come out of court. there are countries where that woman would never be seen again. the point is that russia is not north korea. everybody has a cellphone camera. people have vpn lines and ability to talk to people all over the world. we shouldn't make light of how brutally repressive putin can be in his own country. but all of those acts will be there for the world to see and judge. ultimately, for him to be held accountable for those acts. >> what is your sense? when you are asked by your constituents how long this goes on and what our role will be, what's your answer? >> i wish i were an optimism. putin has ability through sheer mass of military equipment to keep this meat grinder in ukraine, which is doing terrible damage to the ukrainian people,

to the city and to his own military, he has the capability to keep that up for a long time. what's interesting to me is we are starting to hear that maybe there are serious negotiations around some sort of an agreement that might have to do with ukrainian neutrality. that breaks my heart. this guy is a criminal. he needs to not come out of this having won anything. on the other hand, if we can get an agreement that would save the lives of thousands of ukrainians, that's something that has to be taken seriously. >> thank you for coming back and spending time with us. we are grateful. >> thank you. stay with us. you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner.

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more than 3 million ukrainians have left. you decided to stay. i'm curious as to why. >> it's my city. it's my country. now we are fighting for our values. this is a common values.

maybe it will be strange to hear from me. i'm a lawyer. now i repeat the ask of our ukrainian president. we ask defense system and fighter planes in order to protect civilians from deliberate shellings of russians. >> hi, everyone. on day 21 of the war in ukraine where the message from ukrainian officials and civilians is simple. do more to protect us and innocent civilians here from the skies, from the russian bombs. it was with that message that ukraine's president zelenskyy delivered an impassioned and personal and moving address to members of congress here. a stirring speech where at one point president zelenskyy invoked the familiar words of an american hero, martin luther king junior. >> translator: right now, the

destiny of our country is being decided. the destiny of our people, whether ukrainians will be free, whether they will be able to preserve their democracy. i have a dream. these words are known to each of you today, i can say. i have a need. i need to protect our sky. i need your decision, your help, which means exactly the same, the same you feel when you hear the words, i have a dream. >> president zelenskyy thanked the united states for all of its help so far. he did repeat his calls for that no-fly zone. at the end, he made a direct plea to the american president in english. >> as the leader of my nation i'm addressing the president biden. you are the leader of the nation, of your great nation. i wish you be the leader.

being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace. >> the phrase, a picture is worth a thousand words, was proven yet again to be true. one of if not the most powerful part of president zelenskyy's speech was a video presentation. we will warn you, it's disturbing and graphic. really important. the video begins by showing what was a peaceful and flourishing country 21 days ago. now suffering unthinkable, unfathomable human tragedies of an unprovoked war. the video showed harrowing scenes of destruction and tragedy and pain and death and ended with the president's message. close the sky over ukraine. while a no-fly zone remains off the table for the united states and our allies at this hour, president biden did announce the u.s. will send $800 million in

additional military assistance to ukraine, that includes long-range aircraft systems, drones and more. the president spoke about what is at stake. >> it's about freedom. it's about the right of people to determine their own future. it's about making sure ukraine never -- will never be a victory for putin, no matter what advances he makes on the battlefield. the american people are answering president zelenskyy's call for more people, more weapons to ukraine to defend itself. more tools to fight russian aggression. that's what we are doing. >> as the calls for help from ukrainians, including on our program, continue, the military has proven itself skillful and highly effective and successful in fending off russian's military. the official says, it radically changes the disposition. that's where we begin this hour.

joining us from kyiv -- i'm going to try -- a "washington post" correspondent and msnbc contributor and from lviv, cal perry. i saw your appearance last night. i want to understand from you what is happening in kyiv and why we continue to have this misplaced expectation that a siege is imminent. we covered it through richard engel's coverage of bombings of apartment buildings, sunday, monday and tuesday night. it seems this siege and encirclement is happening very slow. no? >> yeah, absolutely. the russians were expected to have -- they were thought to have taken over the capital two

weeks ago. they launched an air operation to take over an airport about 15 miles north of kyiv. they are expected to run through. what they found instead was stiff resistance by the ukrainian forces. the russians were expecting a conventional war. instead, what they got was basically a guerrilla insurgency around the capital. they have been stopped in this town on the northwest edges of kyiv. it was the main gateway to enter the capital. what they found instead was ukrainian forces who have been -- dug trenches, destroyed bridges to prevent russian tanks from rolling through. what they are doing now is they are in the city, they are manning checkpoints. they are ambushing russian troops, in some cases fighting street by street.

that's slowed the russian advance down. >> it's still brutal. i don't want to take away from the damage that's being inflicted on the civilian population there. tell me how -- we have anecdotal evidence. all around is incredible suffering and death and a sense of fear. >> right. especially in the last couple of days there have been several suspected munition strikes, rockets or missiles, by the russians on residential areas in kyiv. yesterday, i was at one apartment building that was a 16-floor apartment building that was up in flames. people were stuck there. many were elderly. they had to -- they couldn't escape their apartments.

there was too many smoke. many were on the high floors were brought down in large crane biz firefighters rescing them. it was an extremely sad situation. many of these people had lived all their lives in this community. they used to have coffee downstairs in the coffee shop. kids were playing outside. there was one group of elderly residents who planted trees next to the apartment. it was all gone. they had no idea where they were going to go. this has been happening all over kyiv. one person told me, no one is safe anymore. another person said, it's like we are in the middle of a russian roulette. no one knows where the missiles and rockets will hit. people are extremely concerned. what they are seeing elsewhere is raising alarms as well. when there's bombardments in mariupol or kharkiv, they are worried something similar will

happen in the capital. >> tell me what the ability to procure food and water -- we are talking to you. there has to be some ability to communicate. tell me how basic supplies are holding up there. >> right. contrary to what's been reported, there isn't a complete siege of the city. russian forces are north of the city and northwest and northeast. but they are not anywhere inside -- close to the capital. the southern routes are still open. people can go in and out. and west as well. food is coming in. supplies are coming in. there is shortages happening. you can see it. when you go to grocery stores, many shelves are empty. there are long lines in front of medical pharmacies. people trying to stock up on

medicines. there's also -- the gas station has gotten betterment. if the russians manage to push through and surround the capital, there's going to be dire shortages of everything. people are worried. people are stocking up. >> cal perry, some are make -- they are trying to make their way to lviv. tell me their reaction to president zelensky's speech. >> you have, i think, the big picture coming from president zelenskyy. you have a world leader who people here feel like is representing them very well. i spoke to somebody earlier today. i asked them, what do you think about president zelenskyy alluding to the fact that maybe ukraine would be willing to take a pass on nato?

they said, after this war, nato will join us. we don't need to join nato. that's the message he has been able to send internationally. it's playing well here. when you look at the negotiations -- zelenskyy has to walk a fine line here in the way he presents himself to the world and the way he instructs the negotiaors to deal with the russians. you have a need to stop the fighting. in mariupol today, we hear reports of devastation at a theater where hundreds of folks were sheltering. most of them children. we don't have a realistic idea of how many people were killed. the entryway of this theater was collapsed by the air strike. if you go 100 kilometers to the northwest, where our viewers remember the nuclear plant, you had shelling at an intersection that has injured -- that wounded at least five people fleeing the city of mariupol. i'm picking these because we have them confirmed independently through video and from ukrainian sources. because they are emblematic of what's happening across the

country. north of kyiv, the u.s. embassy in kyiv is reporting russian forces opened up fire and shot ten civilians as they waited for bread lines. in these places, you have a run not just on food but medicine. you have places that are without power. in mariupol, which is becoming the face of the devastation, it is becoming the aleppo of this war, you have 10, 11 days where there has been no green zone corridor to get supplies into the city. two days ago, 20,000 people able to get out. the russians are targeting the very crossroads that civilians are leaving in. they are targeting the roads people are trying to get out. you have in president zelenskyy, a man talking to the u.s. congress about the big picture, geopolitics of russia, of ukraine, but a man who has to direct his negotiating team to think about the real need to stop the fighting now because there are children in basements, in places like mariupol, who may

have lost their parents and need to find food. it's a moment that may provide -- may provide a window of opportunity. it sounds absurd to talk in those terms. but that's what's happening here. in the same 16-hour period, you have attacks on civilians. maybe something coming of the talks between the ukrainians and russians. >> every line lands like a punch to my gut. let's start with mariupol becoming like aleppo. president zelenskyy said in his address, there's no sense -- he is talking about his own -- he is talking about 150 children we know of. that was before the reports of this theater really made its way out, at least here. he said, there's no sense to life if you can't prevent death. the indiscriminate targeting of

civilians, in this case so many children, takes a toll on anybody with a soul. it tells us something about the russians, doesn't it? it brings me back to president zelenskyy invoking 9/11 and invoking evil and terror from the skies. >> indiscriminate in its best form. when you listen to second blinken from a week ago, he said the direct targeting of civilians. when you look at these green corridors as they are called, there's two roads that lead from mariupol to the northwest where people are checking lists to see if their families got out. that intersection is well-known. it's being targeted by russian forces. when you look at the theater in mariupol, this is where hundreds of civilians are sheltering. the russians are in a hospital using those patients as human

shields. there's no other way to frame that. if they're in a hospital during a time of war using it as a base of operation, the patients become human shields. did they know there were civilians in the theater? we can't say they didn't. local officials are saying there's no way they didn't know there were civilians in that theater. all of this is kind of a long way of answering your question which is this is a russian tactic. we saw in syria, in chechnya. it's the playbook to what the ukrainian people worried about. is this the killing of ukrainians on his road to kyiv? that's what president zelenskyy has to figure out. it's an impossible task. he has pressure from both sides. fight for independence but also stop the fighting. i think we will hear more about that line in the coming days. >> cal, today of all days, the humanitarian calamity is so

clear and so searing today. today of all days, the ukrainians and russian counterparts seem to sound some optimistic notes about the peace talks. what do you understand that about that? >> this is the sort of strange juxtaposition you have here. i think it speaks to this need where more and more people will say, anything to stop this fighting. at the least, to get supplies to these cities to allow aid. then you have the bigger picture, the americans are thinking about if there was some kind of cessation of violence -- we're not there yet. but if there was, what does it look like after that? russia made gains here, geographically, politically. they are removing mayors, holding people hostage. it's something the u.s. government is having to think about. secretary blinken this morning talked about how you ensure that russia doesn't just flare back up again and start taking territory. here is a little bit of his thinking.

>> while it is virtually impossible to know what the russians are thinking and doing, because they don't share it and they are a black hole at this moment, the framework that was being discussed is an idea where ukraine has its own army, its own territorial defense forces but doesn't allow foreign military bases. takes a pass on nato. the calculation for zelenskyy, if that's true, is how long is this going to last? what does this military support look like in the long-term?

>> cal has reported on some of the phone intercepts that get broadcast across the country, that at least pretend to give us a window into demoralized russian soldiers without any sort of moral purpose in the country. there are reports across the western press about the incompetence. what do you pick up in kyiv about the russian side? >> right. you know what? many russian soldiers, like -- they fall into a lot of propaganda from the kremlin. many of them we have been told were expecting -- seriously expecting to be welcomed in ukraine by the ukrainians with flowers. that's all over social media. that propaganda is still ongoing. on the ground, certainly, when we talk to ukrainian fighters, they describe an entirely

different situation. they describe russians who are extremely unprepared. they have run out of food and water in some places. in fact, they are looting stores and houhouses. in other places, they have run out of gas. it's almost comical in videos of russians kind of -- soldiers running at the gas and surrendering because of that. that's happening. there's a sense that with the ukrainian forces that -- it's inexplicable what the russians are doing. they seemed unprepared for the conflict. to the point where even in some instances, they were attacking kyiv with aging tanks. this is -- kyiv is the decisive target of the russians. and yet, in some places, they have sent older equipment to try to take it. >> it's amazing.

there's no window into what's happening better than through your eyes. we are grateful to both of you. with the news we covered this week, i have to ask both of you to please stay safe. two of the best of the best, thank you so much, live in ukraine. when we come back, the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee on the plea we heard today from ukraine's president zelenskyy and the response from joe biden. the hunt for russian oligarch money and spoils. a prosecutor on the case telling nbc news he will use every tool at his disposal to track down the ill begotten riches of russia's wealthy. will it be fluff to slow vladimir putin down? more of my conversation with former u.s. ambassador marie yavonovich. yavonovich

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there you have it. president joe biden for the first time coming out and saying it, vladimir putin is a war criminal. what happens next? as we have been discussing, president zelenskyy's speech to american lawmakers today highlighted what is still a bit of a gap between what the united states has done and will do for ukraine. appreciated though it may be and is by ukrainians. but they desperately still need

$800 million in new military aid is huge but will it be enough to help them defeat russia? joining us, rick stengle. it feels like there's a public player of all this and then the back channel where we understand what they want and invoking pearl harbor and 9/11 was a searing window through which every american can understand why they want this no-fly zone. behind the scenes, with the president, what our president announced a couple hours after the zelenskyy address, was another big package with a lot of weapons to help them defeat russia. your thoughts? >> yes. as jfk said of churchill, he mobilized the english language in defense of england. it was a rhetorical tour de

force. the united states is more engaged. public opinion is on the side of us helping. i think there's a lot going on that we don't see. there's a lot going on perhaps with the negotiations that we don't see. >> that's good. >> yes. that's good. >> that leads to peace. that's good. >> tougher talk. lots of folks thought that ronald reagan's language was the thing that ended up bringing down the berlin wall. the tougher talk is better. i think putin will respond to that. i'm hopeful about the negotiations. >> between ukraine and russia? >> between ukraine and russia. zelenskyy has pivoted a little bit away from this idea that we have to become part of nato. there was the lovely line in your previous report about the ukrainian woman saying, nato will want to be a part of us now. if putin would settle for an

independent ukraine, like sweden or austria or switzerland, has an army and navy, but no military alliances, that would be a pretty good outcome. >> i want to add to our conversation, a congressman meeks. what's your reaction that you heard from president zelenskyy in his address to congress today? >> i don't think you could be human and not feel his words and the impact that he has had and the humanity in his fight to make sure that his sovereignty, his country, his democracy is at stake, but they will be fighting to maintain it. it was just moving. the film, the video, one who had visited ukraine about five days before it was attacked by

vladimir putin and then just recently a week ago being in poland, you could not help -- i think just about every member had a tear or had to fight back tears in that regard to support president zelenskyy. it was very passionate. >> i want to put up -- obviously, the speech was meant to reach not just all of you but all americans on those levels. ukraine is looking for some very real help. i want to put up our understanding of the ukraine military's wish list for the biden administration. it includes armed drones, anti-ship missiles, electronic jamming equipment, surface to air missiles. they want more stinger and anti-aircraft missiles, more javelin anti-tank weapons. is it your understanding that sort of barring logistical challenges, everything short of the no-fly zone, everything is

on the table? >> yeah, i think so. last week, we voted for close to $14 billion. another $800 million. the checklist is there. we are giving ukrainians what they need and what they are asking for so they can defend their freedom. i think president zelenskyy said it right. he is not looking for boots on the ground or anything of that nature. he is looking for the defensive mechanisms that he needs to protect himself. i think the united states, under the leader of president biden, along with our nato allies -- that's what this is really all about, too. which i think was tremendously important. it's not just the united states. it's the united states and our allies. sometimes you have to go around where some of the devices are. we are doing just that.

>> congressman, we spend a lot of time covering the human tragedy, the human catastrophe, the death and suffering in places like mariupol, which are largely now cut off from the humanitarian corridors. but also the refugee crisis. 3 million have fled, 1.5 million are children. what is your sense of what more the united states can do to help on that front? >> in the package, in that $14 billion package was humanitarian aid also. i was in poland. we saw the refugees coming across, 150,000 a day. mostly, as you indicated, women and children. men between the age of 18 and 60 were not allowed to cross the border. they left to be fighting. many of the women and children were hungry, cold.

they had been traveling for days to get to the border. we saw the polish people there with food, blankets, toys for the kids and try -- so many taken to their homes. we have to assist in that regard. whether it's the countries where individuals are going into in europe. they all are being -- will at some point be impacted. i think we will have to look at bringing some of them to the united states of america. it's a serious humanitarian crisis that's caused by one man, his name is vladimir putin. >> that one plan was described as a war criminal by our president today. what do we do with war criminal vladimir putin? >> i agree, he is. his actions and what he has done is evil. the first thing that we have to do is continue to support president zelenskyy as we

continue and they continue to fight. we have to strengthen and continue putting pressure with reference to the multilateral sanctions so we can get an end -- try to get information into russia so the russian people -- this is not the russian people that caused this. this is vladimir putin and his disinformation campaign. we have to get them involved in what's really going on, like that brave woman who brought up the sign, no war, at the national broadcast. that pressure from the battle and the great fight that ukrainians are putting up and then ending the disinformation and getting the appropriate information into russia along with the sanctions, which should cause them to become very curious why they are not able to get money out of the bank, why they are not able to go to the store that they used to go, why are american companies leaving, they start questioning putin

himself. those come together i believe is what will bring putin down to defeat. he will not win this. he can win a battle but he will not win this war. >> congressman meeks, thank you for spending time with us. the congressman is the second person in an hour and a half to make this point that winning in russia is important, too. igor made the point that to the degree that celebrities or musicians can get the message out or lift up those who are against this war, that that is so important. the congressman making the same point. how difficult is that? >> i think it's happening now. russia is becoming a pariah state. it's a terrible time for anybody young in russia. there are no russian products that are going anywhere. i think russia will remain a pariah for decades. they pulled themselves away from europe more than any time since catherine the great now. they will be separate. europeans will no longer see

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military for years to come. tonight, i say to the russian oligarchs and corrupt leaders who built billions of dollars off this regime, no more. i mean it. we are joining with european allies to find and siege their yachts, luxury apartments, private jets. we are coming for you, ill begotten gains. >> you can't see the crowd. it was one of the biggest bipartisan applause lines of the state of the union address give bin president joe biden last week, announcing his administration's plans to form a task force within doj assigned to go after and punish russian oligarchs close to vladimir putin. the unit within doj, named task force clepto capture is led by andrew adams. he is vowing to use every tool

available to him to chase down the wealthy russians' money. tom winter spoke with him to find out how he plans to tackle the operation. >> there will not be an escape hatch around the sanctions through money launderers and opaque financial networks. real estate, bank accounts, artwork, the fruits of a luxurious life that's ill gained, all of that is on the table. the reason for coming to work is to chase the money and to chase the crime under the money. >> tom winter joins us now. there's not much to smile about. but i remember i covered the state of the union, and it was one of the most thunderous applause lines that announcement of the task force from the president. looks like a serious prosecutor has been given this assignment. take me inside where he starts, how long it takes, what we will

see, will there be seized yachts? >> he has a dozen prosecutors working under him that have deep experience in this, not just in new york but across the country. he is working with the national security division under the deputy attorney general. i believe he will meet with the attorney general later this week. that shows how high of a priority this is being given. not sure how high of a priority than when it's something mentioned at the state of the union. the president touched on something that's important to remember, which is it's ill gotten gains. you can't just walk up to the yacht and take the keys and slap a sticker on it and say it's ours. he has to prove a crime. he has to say the various yachts and various assets, condos, high priced artwork, obviously bank accounts, big bank accounts, all of that has to be something

that's called an ill gotten gain as a result of committing that crime or in the process of committing that crime, this was the net result. that's how he can go to a judge who he points out is not at all on his team to be able to persuade the judge to say, this is something we should be able to get our hands on. that's just kind of the start of the process. from there, there's an ongoing litigation that can occur. people can make claims on it if they are owed money by the various individuals who might be charged here. this is a lengthy process. he will have agents from the department of homeland security, homeland security investigations, obviously treasury, clearly the fbi has a big role in this. there's a lot of work to be done, which would be the natural question next, and you asked it, how long will this take? i think they have a pretty good sense on some of the networks. i think that's the focus here. what are the networks -- i joked with him, 1-800-money

launderers. who are the people moving the money? what have they set up? it's a cottage industry. i think being able to jam up those networks first is his first priority. obviously, that stops the flow of cash. >> let me ask you that. who could be swept up in a very high level, very high priority investigation of russian oligarch networks? >> two columns within that, there's a couple of separate groups. with respect to the oligarchs, there were oligarchs sanctioned in 2014 after what happened with russia and crimea and in 2018 and additional names have been added over the last couple of weeks. that's the pool of names on the russian side. that includes business entities that are swept up in that. we are looking at some of the individuals now. some of the individuals are very close to vladimir putin. there's three groups there. in doing our own homework, you

have the kgb, hardliners who came up with putin. people that have been in his circle for a long time. i was looking at sergei chemizov. the businessmen -- they have not been charge and may never be. those types of individuals, kind of form that second pool. then there's a third pool of oligarchs in the defense and military industry. that might be an area of focus considering the reason why all this is occurring, which is ukraine. that's column one. column two, we are talking about the people that are facilitating the payments that may be hedge funds, attorneys, accountants, that could be individuals at certain banks. he made it a point, i'm not looking to put bans out of business. but if there are banks that have not done the right compliance

work, hear no evil and see no evil is no longer in play. he will go after them. >> i won't jump ahead. but i can't wait to see who gets swept up. thank you so much for being on this. rick, the trump years were russian oligarch adjacent, if you will. some of these names became household names. paul manaforte was in bed with some of them. i wonder what you make of this harsh turn and the fate of russian oligarchs who probably don't spend too much time worrying about being held accountable for anything. >> it's a great thing. mike mcfaul made the point, there's oligarchs putin doesn't like and he would be happy to have their yachts confiscated. a lot of the oligarchs around him are untouchable. to your point about donald

trump, remember, there was the russian oligarch that bought his house in palm beach. trump's son said we are getting most of our money from russia. i would love that to be partnve going on. the thing about money laundering is, it involves ultimately conventional institutions and banks that we all use. the money flows that way. we need to go -- >> hence the laundry. >> we have to go the opposite direction. you need to examine where you are getting your money. obviously, the banks that trump did business with, may do business with some of the same oligarchs. >> to see this divisive moment for our country, it stuck out to all of us covering the speech that on both sides of the spectrum, it's not good to be for russian oligarchs keeping their ill begotten gains. >> yes. no one likes ill begotten gains. >> or russian oligarchs. rick sticks around. more of my conversation with

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thank you so much for letting us into your homes during these extraordinary times. we're grateful. "the beat" with ari melber starts now. nice to see you again. >> it is a sign that we are at work fwht office. which is one good thing. >> it is one good thing. we'll take it. >> nice to see you in person. and through the monitor. nicolle wallace, always good to see you, thank you. welcome to the beat and i'm ari melber. and day 21 of russia's invasion there is talk some of potential road to apeace deal, that is something everyone would seem to welcome if it were real. russia and ukraine officials are signaling a type