good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with the american president making a damming decoloration, vladimir putin is a war criminal. war cr. >> this comes after a bipartisan show of support for ukraine on capitol hill today where volodymyr zelenskyy received a standing ovation after his passioned address to congress. he holds a law degree and demonstrated capacity for the performative aspects of leadership and persuasion delivering an eloquent and urgent appeal not just to the u.s. government but to the

american people. in the stirring speech, zelensky riffed on the words of reverend martin luther king junior as he pleaded for more help. >> translator: this is a terror that europe has not seen for 80 years and we're asking for an answer, a reply to this terror from the whole world. i have a dream. these words are known to each of you today, i can say. i have a need. i need to protect our sky. i need your decision, your help in the darkest time for our country for the whole europe. i call on you to do more. >> among other things, zelenskyy called again for more military aid, more sanctions on russia and a no fly zone and his message to close the sky was amplified by a dramatic video he shared, which i should warn you is graphic. it showed the heartbreaking

results of russia's aggression how putin's deadly on slot has taken thousands of innocent lives and displaced many more transforming his once thriving country into a waste land of destruction. zelenskyy switched from ukrainian to english calling on president biden to lead the world by pushing for peace. >> president biden, you are the leader of the nation of your great nation. i wish you to be the leader of the world. being the leader of the world means to be the leader of peace. thank you. >> shortly thereafter, biden announced the u.s. is committing another $800 million in military aid to ukraine and while a no fly zone is a non-starter for obvious reasons, that package includes more anti-aircraft and anti armor weapon systems as well as small arms and ammunition. here is president biden today.

>> the united states and our allies and partners are fully committed and more will be coming as we source additional stocks of equipment that are ready to transfer. this is a struggle and let there be no doubt, no uncertainty, no question america stands with the forces of freedom. >> today's aid package includes a new weapon some that could give ukraine the tactical advantage they need to turn the tide. administration is sending u.s. made killer drones called described as cutting edge guided missiles that can accurately target russian missiles from a mile away. they are also known as loitering missiles because they can be steered around an object with

time to strike. providing a game changer for ukrainian forces. the aid package is consistent with president biden's view it could pack fire and widen the conflict. while zelenskyy was asked about the concern in an interview with nbc's lester holt, he chillingly suggested another world war might be upon us. >> president biden has been very clear he's worried about provocations that could trigger world war iii. do you understand his concern there and do you agree that it wouldn't take much to end up in world war iii? >> translator: well, nobody knows whether it may have already started. nobody would be able to predict when the full scale war would start and how it will end, who

will end to that. in this case, we have the whole civilization at stake. >> joining me is congressman eric swalwell and a member of the ukrainian parliament. this is an obviously stirring speech. i think your president has the vast majority of the united states well on his side most of americans are well on the side of ukrainians. but you've been here in this country talking with members of congress, talking with people in the house and senate since this war began. you have family back home. so this is personal, obviously, this is your country at stake. do you think that, do you feel that the u.s. has been sufficiently persuaded to give ukraine what it needs given what you heard from the president today? >> so the first package of sanctions when it came out to be honest, ukrainians were disappointed because we did not have the arms we need to fight. we didn't have the economic sanctions. there was an exception for oil and gas which is fixed now and

not enough banking sanctions because seven out of 300 banks were cut off. it's getting better now because i think we had proof these ukrainians to the world we can fight and we're not going to leave and surrenderer and our president is staying, the parliament is staying and we'll fight until the last blood. the support we receive today, this package that president biden announced is very helpful but this is not enough. i'll be honest with you. we keep asking for the jets. i'll explain so what it means. so we can stop putin on the ground. so we've been very effective fighting their tanks, their vehicles, their army. but unfortunately, the biggest problem for us is the sky and that's why the president and every ukrainian keeps begging for the no fly zone. you won't believe it but every kid in ukraine knows what a no fly zone is. we had 1,000 people shout, women and children in the bomb shelter

shelled to death. we can't get them out in mariupol city. 1,000 people with one bomb. jets can be stopped with jets. you cannot stop a jet with a javelin or stinger or drone. you need another plane to shoot the plane. we have a big problem with the missiles coming. so missiles against missiles are only the air defense system that can be used so we keep asking for both. we need the air defense system for protection like s 300 the president announced today and we need the jets like su 25 that we know how to fly, we're flying them now to put down their airp -- airplane so they don't bomb our children and women. >> congressman, we know you heard the appeals and were in the well of congress to hear the speech by zelenskyy. when he said close the skies, that's what he means. what you heard this wonderful young woman described, i think for a lot of americans, they can't understand why we wouldn't

just hand over the jets if that's what they mean, why don't we just give it to them? >> we should give them the jets. we should give them the tools to effectively enforce their own no fly zone so anti-aircraft capabilities, we've given a billion dollars a year to israel to have iron domes so they don't have rockets landing in their country. we should give them equivalent technology so they can do that, as well. so yes, give them the jets. i'm a father of three kids in diapers and it was incredibly hard for me to sit there, anyone to sit there, parent or not and see innocent women and children under the rubble of vladimir putin's bombs and so let's help them protect their citizens, stay in the fight. don't tell me in your comfortable office 10,000 miles away that you know better than president zelenskyy what he needs to protect his people and to protect freedom. >> well, thank you so much for your support because this is

exactly what i've been hearing on the hill and congress, the senate has been very supportive but unfortunately, when it comes to action and actually delivering or announcing we don't see the jets there. even if you see the list announced today, you don't see the jets so we will still have problems with the jets bombing. there is 500 kilogram jets, i don't know in pounds multiplied by half. these are huge bombs being put on our cities forbidden by the geneva convention and just killing thousands of people with one bomb. so until we don't have the jets, we cannot stop that. so we are grateful for what is coming, grateful for the javelins, we'll fight with that. it takes 20, 30 minutes for our soldiers that used to be i don't know managers or it guys or the territorial defense fighting. i have a friend of mine is an actor, he is going around with a

javelin fighting. >> the ballerinas are fighting. >> putting down the tanks. so this was what is helpful because we can see stock there in the middle of nowhere and they're running out of fuel, they're running out of food and water but to shut down the sky because the new strategy putin picked up is kill as many civilians as he can. and unfortunately, we have more and more children, women as the human shields for his army. every time we have the convey take children and women out of the occupied cities, they wouldn't let us go. they killed volunteers trying to bring food and water so it's not being a criminal, war criminal but the genocide kept saying and

we have to commit 40 million have to commit it. we're asking for these jets and every time we go on the hill and speak to someone people keep telling me well, if one of the jets is being hit, that might be an escalation, we don't want to escalate. so my question is, where is the red line for you for this escalation because putin keeps escalating. he keeps going as far as you let him go. he kills children. he kills women. they have been raped and killed. he is destroying the city. all the cities that basically have the biggest cities in the middle of europe and you keep saying we don't want to escalate given the jets. we're not asking you to fight for us. we have our own pilots. we have still a few of our own jets that we use but we need these jets to protect our children. and when you're telling me this is an escalation, i keep asking

how many children have to die for us to get the jets? how many people have to die? how many civilians? what is the red line for you? if you do this, this will be an escalation. you should be the one telling him if you kill one more child in ukraine, we're giving them the jets to fight, to put down your airplanes and this is a total different conversation that we're talking about because we are protecting not only our country, we are protecting democracy right now from this evil in the world. he's not going to stop in ukraine. and our countries know that, poland knows that that's why they're so supportive and eager to provide us with the weapons they have but they keep asking the united states, please replace it, at least partially because if ukraine goes down, we'll be next. >> here is the question i have for you congressman, what will it take to actually get us to do it because poland has said their

willing to give up the jets they have. they're right there. why don't they do it? do we have leverage to get poland to hand them over with a promise to replace them from the united states or is there some other way for us to simply do what it seems like the majority of the people in congress or at least who are talking to the mp here are telling them they want to do. how do we get it done? >> we can do it, joy. there is a meme or tiktok video talking about logistics, that's standing between women and babies where all the capabilities, the u.s. and nato countries have, we can't give jets to pilots able to fly them? we can do it. she and her colleagues are inspiring and putting it in front of us and i hope the pressure is pushed up for members of congress to the administration, look, president

zelenskyy and the kremlin met the moment. will we meet the moment as a leader, a global leader to help ukraine to stand up for democracy? >> i'll give you the last word. the other thing on the table circulating there are peace negotiations, peace negotiations, i don't know how you negotiate peace with a madman but the idea that ukraine would vow to never want to join nato strikes me as a significant win for putin. is that something you can foresee happening? >> in 2014 when he invaded ukraine the first time and partially occupied ccrimea, we were in a neutral country. we had nothing to do with they -- nato and it was not on the table. this is an argument and demand he comes up with which has nothing to do with reality. it's the same as demilitarization of the country. we give up the weapons and you

come over and shoot us. 40 million people have to commit suicide. it's not about nato. it's about putin being sick and everybody can see he actually did go nuts and he wants to invade as many countries as he can. and so if we don't stop him now in ukraine, he will go further and the next will be the nato countries and one day you'll have to step in. it's better to stop him now in ukraine and help us do that because we already know how the fight ends. we've been fighting this guy for eight years. unfortunately, if we had the same sanctions eight years ago when he invaded crimea and done bask, what happened today wouldn't have happened. this moment is missed. unfortunately, we see what we see. we're in a full scale war so we need support in the war and that's what the congressman is saying. we can give the jets, the problem is the political decision that needs to be done and for those take thing decision, where is your red line? as the world leader, as the

human being how many people have to die for us to get the jets so stop killing our kids and our innocent people. >> yeah, that is the question of the day. thank you so much for being here. we're with you. i can tell you where this little tiny nation of "the reidout" stands. thank you both and god bless. indeed. up next on "the reidout" the unrelenting atrocities as russia strikes civilian targets and russia is facing the consequences of putin's actions as their economy circles the drain and ilhan omar who was once a refugee herself joins me on the enormous humanitarian crisis and a psychological trama that comes from being forced from your home and country and the incredible courage of the woman that protested on russian state tv is speaking out again. "the reidout" continues after this. again "the reidout" continues after this

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at the same time volodymyr zelenskyy was pleading for more help, all across ukraine russian forces continue their deadly assault against the civilian population. in ukraine's capitol of kyiv, which is in the middle of a 35 hour curfew, residential billings continue to be hilt -- hit with strikes. this bold response to the russian attacks. >> putin says he's only targeting military targets. >> bull [ bleep ]. sorry. p ]. sorry. >> in mariupol, russians took 400 people hostage including patients and doctors and housing the hospital as a military position to shell the city.

a theater in mariupol was destroyed. the foreign minister said hundreds of civilians were sheltering inside. no word on the number of casualties. with each passing hour, the death toll continues to rise and some places families have been told to leave their dead outside in the street because it's too dangerous to hold funerals. the bodies are being buried in mass graves including children. the youngest still had an unbilical stump attached. terrell star, non-resident senior fellow at the atlantic counsel center and host of the black diplomat podcast. cal, i want to start we yo. we come to think of lviv as a safe place but seems no place is safe. >> reporter: well, and we had air strikes sort of near here about an hour away four days ago. this was that air field. i think it changed the tone here. you have hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing from the

east and many are settling here in the city of lviv and the city is slowly running out of space so others are making a push to the border. what people are fleeing is truly the worst that humanity has to offer. mariupol has been under siege for more than ten days. it was a week ago when the president first announced a little girl died of dehydration and the situation has got so much worse. talk about the theater, it's possible 1,000 civilians were in the theater when it was hit. the entrance way to the theater we're told by local officials collapsed. rescuers aren't able to get in the building. i want to walk you through a couple other attacks because they are em showing what they are dealing with. north of mariupol, there is a community center that civilians use to check the names of family members fleeing the east. it's a place where people are going to find out if their family members have gotten out. well, the intersections in that city were bombed by russians as

civilians were making their way out, clearly targeting civilians and we heard from the u.s. state department they're targeting civilians as they're leaving and north of kyiv, civilians are waiting in a bread line. they were opened up by the russians. that they were quote fired upon and state television here is running that right now as the lead story because there are bodies in the streets of dead civilians and in many of these towns as you're saying, certainly places like mariupol andkharkiv, and the bodies are staying in the streets because people can't get out of the bomb shelters long enough to remove the bodies because of the shelling. >> you've been going to ukraine as long as i've known you and long before that. you were involved in personally

trying to help folks get out. talk about the complexiies of at this stage trying to get out of some of these cities where cal just said the russians are attacking people as they're trying to flee. >> yeah, thank you for having me on the show. i helped two families so far in addition to a third one indirectly. if you're in the northwest for example, a suburb of kyiv and so the family that we took out, they were in the shelter for three days. they were after constant bombings and attacks, the russians were close there. first of all, it's psychological when we picked up the family, they were following us around like ducks because they were so traumatized. if they do escape physically unscathed, phycologically they carry around the trama. getting around is difficult. you have dozens upon dozens of check points. you have to know where to go.

the south of kyiv, you have to go west that adds hours, days to your travel then there are no accommodations available. the reason why i've been able to get accommodations for myself is support on twitter, i'll be at this location at this time, can someone help me and someone's grandma or cousin, someone's brother is able to help us out. and getting the families across. if a man is part of the family they have to stay behind so the man goes to the border, they have to send their wife and children off because men between the ages of 18 and 60 have to be here to fight so trips that take eight hours, 12 hours usually take ten days, accommodations are limited and it's physically taxes. psychologically taxes once they get to the border in the hands of a humanitarian organization, the psychological trama they've

experienced is another aspect that is going to be on going to stay with you for a moment, terrell, people forget how huge this is. if you sat ukraine on the united states, it would span the east coast and tennessee so physically getting across, you're talking about how difficult it is to go across. are people able to -- how are people physically moving? trains are being attacked. i'm sure people are using personal cars. physically, how are people getting out? how are people getting west? >> that's another good question. so if you can't -- keep in mind these trains which are as you know and other folks know, i use these trains all the time to get across the country now. if you can afford to get into a car, i would recommend that because sometimes you don't know if you'll be able to get a spot on the train. they offer the trains for free going towards the border but

also, if the trains, take the car you have to have the luxury of having a vehicle. in addition to your days being added to a trip that would take half a day, you have to consider the fact there is a -- this costs money. this is actually pretty expensive. one tank of gas you have to times four or five or six times. people don't budget for war. for a lot of folks, if you're elderly, it's difficult to get across. some people just stay because they stay there because they really don't -- their bodies are too weak to handle the trip. fortunately, i'll close out with a person that had cancer. she's in a particular state she's able to be transported but some people are so sick they choose to stay and don't go into bomb shelters because they feel, if the building is hit, they feel like they'll be buried under the rubble so people are making very difficult choices under these circumstances.

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the russian government is ratcheting up pressure with andrew adams, the top doj prosecutor hunting oligarch's money knowing he'd use every tool available to track them down. adams told nbc there will not be an escape hatch around the sanctions with money laundering and opaque financial networks. this comes as russia is facing possible default with the money they used to make debt payments today frozen under sanctions. a 30-day grace period before they actually fall into default but if that payment is rejected, it will be the first sovereign default on foreign currency debt since the revolution in 1918. i'm joined by former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul and editor at "news week" and fbi double agent and author of "how to catch a russian spy." what would that mean in your view if russia defaults on debt. they are looking to sell off gold reserves. that sounds dire. what does that mean big picture

if that happens? >> it would look something like what happened in russia in august 1998 when they defaulted on debt, the ruble lost value and could basically crash and the stock is worth a ruble but the end of this period. it was worth about five and it was a really hard time and people i talked to no moscow worry that's where they're headed to a second. >> the burning question i ask every time is does that move anything? it does seem, today, putin did this completely unhinged sort of manic rant where he talks about he hates oligarchs, he called them traitors and sounds like

he's preparing for a purge inside russia rather than empathizing with their new financial plyte and he's railing against these people saying they have condos in miami, to hell with them. do you think a complete financial collapse changes anything in terms of the support he has and his ability to stay in control? >> well, joy, i listened to that rant in russia and it was quite extraordinary by putin's standards. he's getting more and more angry and unhinged and i'm glad you pointed out. we talked about it a few weeks ago. people are saying isn't it great they're seizing the assets of oligarchs and will put pressure on putin and you just saw what putin thinks of the people. he doesn't respect them. he doesn't like them. some of them by the way are family members of people that are close to him, let's set that aside but you seen that he's turning this into its black and white, you're with us or against us. he was talking about in that

rant the fifth column that has, you know, prodemocratic opposition figures inside russia he now considers an enemy and i do think this could be the signs that they're going to be crackdowns on some of these people and some of their assets inside russia, as well. and i don't know what it means. i want to be honest with you. i don't know when there comes a point where it's too much and you start to see resignations, that's what i would look for. i'd look for resignations for instance from the head of the russian central bank. i know her. i used to know her. there is no way she supports this war. that would be a sign that things are falling apart. the head of this bear bank, that's the largest state owned bank in russia if they walked away, that would signal to me that there is starting to be splits within the ruling regime but we haven't seen that yet. >> yeah, let me just read a little bit of this for those of you. it flashed on the scene. i'm not judging those with

villas in miami and can't live without oysters or the so-called gender freedom. this is not the problem. the problem is some of these people are there mentally not here with our people, not with russia, blah, blah, blah especially russian people. the true patriots, blood pressure -- bloop, bloops. there is another piece of interesting data i want to get. cnn interviewed some of these downed russian troops. they had interesting things to say, too. this is what some of these prisoners of war in ukraine said to cnn. i want to tell our commander in chief to stop terror acts in ukraine because when we come back, we'll rise against him. you won't hide this for long. there are many like us here. sooner or later, we'll come home. in a cnn private interview, one of them said the crimes we committed, we will all be judged. these are public interviews and interviews given to cnn. you know, it may be questionable they sort of appeared under the geneva conventions speaking as prisoners of war so that's sketchy but the fact is they

sound like the kind of troops putin should be worried about, no? >> look, i think so. you know, we were talking to some -- i'm sure mike can agree with this, literally before the invasion to give you an idea what we heard from sources in russia is there was a belief in some of the legislatures that 70% of the ukrainian officer core would defect. they would be treated with open arms as like liberators and that's truly i think what some of the russians believed and i think they were disheartened. they're not doing well. it's clear that the russian military is not doing well. they have committed at this point, if you can imagine, 100% of the troops deployed along the border are now in ukraine and in some estimates, they lost up to 10%, 10% of those troops. you think that's not going to affect moral not to mention they're asking china for mres? china? this is not going well for the average foot soldier and i think that absolutely has an impact.

we've seen it here with veterans that are advocates and maybe activism in terms of veterans looks different in russia. nonetheless, these soldiers will come back knowing that they were lied to and sent unprepare into a conflict they expected to be seen as liberators and it was anything but. so yeah, i do think that as the am ambassador is saying, putin is feeling pressure and that's an example where russia is with this. it's putin alone. >> smells like vietnam but worse. michael and navid will stick with us because up next, how the courage of anti war protesters is casting putin enablers and over the top rhetoric in a whole new light. we'll be right back. w light. we'll be right back.

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i'm back with my guests. i want to play a little bit of president zelenskyy's interview with lester holt and these are about alleged peace negotiations. i'll hold off on that. let me ask you al -- ambassador mcfaul -- wait, here it is. >> there is reporting the frame work of a deal is being hammered out, one you would announce nato ambitions and declare neutrality and not allow foreign militaries to base of your land. can you confirm any of that and update us on the status of negotiations? >> the negotiations are still in progress. the negotiations are fairly difficult. and the current conditions of the negotiations continue. any war could be finished at the

table of negotiations. >> ambassador mcfaul, what do you make of that? >> i'd say two things. one side wins or there is a stalemate. and right now there is not a cu forces were mentioned in the last segment might have been destroyed. that's a fantastic victory, but 100% minus ten means 90% of putin's forces are still at his disposal. as he continues to attack and make incremental gains, there is not a stalemate on the battle field. there will be a negotiation and there is a stalemate. there is another very important point to remember about what is going on here. they are saying these things about negotiations so that they stop us from giving more weapons to mr. zelenskyy, right? because we don't want to escalate, right? maybe we better not give them

the weapons now because peace is going to break out and until that gentleman, mr. putin says he's interested in negotiations, this is all, you know, premature for now. >> and, you know, navid it strikes me the worst thing we can do -- if you give them the weapons and you don't concede nato membership ever, that seems like more of a detouring. if ukraine is a militarized country, wouldn't putin lop off more chunks of ukraine? that's what they've been doing since 2014. >> can anyone with a straight face expect putin to be an honest broker? the answer is no. i respect president zelenskyy more as a man that's negotiating with a beard and no tie. this is the bravado in the face of putin. i don't say that jokingly. there is something besides the

fact we're promising $1 billion in aid, there is something about president zelenskyy that really motivates not just his countrymen but the entire world and i think putin genuinely, genuinely despises that. i think putin was looking at ukraine as this sort of ego vanity project and he's put up against this man who is besting him in a t-shirt, literally. i think that frustrates putin. i don't know that even if to the ambassador's point. we should continue to arm ukrainians. if we pull out, if the russians pull out, do we really have confidence that we're not going to be back hear in a year, two years, three years? as long as putin is there and as long as ukraine is in a weakened state, which is what putin seeks, this will just return back to where it is today. >> you know, ambassador mcfaul, here is the challenge that putin isn't just doing this here. he's still in syria, you know, backing acts of violence. he's got his wagner militias

over africa and been getting away with it for a long time. does this call into question whether nato needs to change because nato is quite ineffective. the first thing they've done is say leave us out of it. poland won't transfer the damn jets over their border, right? because they want us to do it. does this call into question whether nato needs to change the way it is structured and operates? if they don't let ukraine in, maybe they need to create a new special category because they obviously need more than a promise of future defense. >> well, i think nato is changing literally in the weeks we've been seeing it and that's the good news. before this war and remember, during the trump administration, we had a lot of tensions within the nato alliance. there were some people worried it would fall apart. that's not the case anymore. i think everybody understands now every nato member understands why we need nato. by the way, thank goodness we did expand nato.

remember that silly debate? is this a good idea or bad idea? imagine if poland and estonia and front line states in ukraine were not members of nato, we would literally talking about a overreached.ld be he went on those runs and went all those places you talked about. but i think he's overreaching. >> yeah. >> this will be the end of that expansionist era of putin's russia. >> and in the words of a washington post columnist -- and i apologize for forgetting the name -- he had simply proved that russia is no longer a superpower. they certainly are not. michael mcfaul and naveed jamali, ambassador michael mcfaul and naveed jamali. and up next, congresswoman ilhan omar joins me. n omar joins me.

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of the nearly 3 million refugees forced to flee since the start of the invasion.

and many have been permanently traumatized. according to a spokesperson for the united nations high commission on refugees, the people who are coming over are a bit more in a state of shock because they've experienced the conflict more directly. with me now is congresswoman ilhan omar, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. congresswoman, thank you for being here. you are also one of a small number of members of congress who have in your background refugee status. at one point, you were a child -- to malinowski, -- communist poland, before coming to the u.s.. congressman jimenez. they are just a few who have had this experience. so, just talk to us as someone who was a little kid, having to leave her home -- i don't want to make you revisit that trauma. but i can imagine that you are relating to these children having to flee the ukraine. >> well, it's good to be with you, joy.

it is really heartbreaking to see the images coming out of ukraine. as one of few members of congress who not only fled war as a child but lived through war and experienced war as a civilian, i can tell you it is really quite traumatizing to go through that process as a child, not knowing whether you can go to sleep, where the bombs are going to follow fall and if you are going to wake up alive. and fleeing everything that is familiar to you, it's something that children live with for a long time. it has been more than 30 years or more that i fled, and to this day i still remember the noise of the bombs, and i still can visibly see everything being shattered around me.

and i can still feel the sense of fear. so, i do hope that we are continuing to do everything that we can to provide shelter and a home for these babies and their families that are fleeing. >> and it's particularly jarring because half of the 3 million people who have fled ukraine our kids, our children. and we are talking about a huge movement of women and children. we saw similar desperation coming out of afghanistan. we've now recently given tps to afghan refugees. but the issue is that once you have moved, now you are in a foreign place. now you are someplace you do not know. you are going to school with kids you don't know. you may not share language with them. talk about that piece of it, of being in this new place where you have to now become accepted and fit in. and this may be permanent. this is your new life. >> yeah. a couple of things.

the journey of fleeing is also long and traumatizing. we have heard from families who have said that it took them 12 hours. some of them it took them days. for my own family, it was weeks for us to be able to get to a safe place. and then the in between that is also really concerning for the stability of any of these children, they do not know the new homes that they are in, whether they will be permanent. and so that's instability is very hard. once they find a permanent home, as i eventually did here in the united states at the age of 12, getting assimilated and accustomed to a new home is also something that requires your neighbors ' and community to put your arms around you. we are living in a time of

history, as a world, where there are more people displaced than at any given time in our history. we obviously are seeing this happen in yemen. over 2 million people displaced, over 11,000 children have died in that conflict. we have obviously seen it in syria. we see it in afghanistan and in iraq and so many other places. and i think that it is commendable, really, for a lot of these neighboring countries that do open up their doors, where there is an influx of people that are crossing their border and create policies. i hope that the compassion and generosity that ukrainians are being met with it's something that leads to policy changes in the future. but i think also here in the united states and in other countries that are -- taking in an influx of ukrainian refugees, like poland and hungary and other places

are, that we should be providing them the support that they need in order for them to be accommodated. it's something like 1.5 million ukrainian refugees going to poland and they are going to need our support. >> and, by the way, there are ukrainians at the southern border. i wish we had more time because we need to get into that irony, that they are trying to come into the southern border, where we are keeping people back with title 42. a whole other conversation. i wish we had more time, but i thank you congresswoman ilhan omar, that is tonight's "the reidout", "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >> tonight, on all in -- >> the leader of the world needs to be the leader of peace. >> a direct appeal from the president of ukraine and a promise to have more military aid from the president of the united states. tonight, what more could and should be done. then, as russia continues to bombard ukraine, is there finally some movement on peace talks? plus -- >> [inaudible]