i needed him to be here. your heart isn't just yours. protect it with bayer aspirin. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. if it's thursday, putin's military advances largely is stalled on the ground in ukraine as russian forces ratchet up their brutal attacks on civilians from the air. could russia's desperation create an opening to actually end this war? or are some new atrocities just beginning? this as the secretary of state antony blinken is set to hold a press conference later this hour after president biden calls putin a war criminal and the president prepares to speak with china's leader about its role in the conflict. as zelenskyy continues to call for help from the west, eu's ambassador to the united states will join us. we're on the ground with a

former ukrainian government official who's still in the war zone now trying to help shelter those unable to leave. i'm chuck todd in washington where we expect remarks from the secretary of state antony blinken on ukraine and will take question from reporters. we have an idea he has thing to say for folks in europe to hear. russia's military has ramped up attacks on civilian targets as it remains mostly stalled in its advances in the ground. we've seen russia target a food storage facility in kyiv which nbc's richard engel toured afterward. we'll have a live report from him in a few moments. there was a second storage facility nearby also struck.

it appears to be a sign that moscow may be trying to simply starve the city into submission, sort of the russian -- when they hit a wall, they try to hit a wall harder. russia has shelled a theater in mariupol where residents were seeking shelter from the bombardment. city officials say rescue efforts are under way in there. they have not said how many people were killed but a satellite image of the area from before the assault shows signs that read "children" outside of it. and we'll have disturbing video from mariupol where the hospital is overwhelmed treating patients, including babies, that have been injured by the russian shelling. mariupol's city council describes the situation as critical. hundreds of thousands of residents are hiding in shelters and basements. roughly 80% of the area's housing has been destroyed and those are prep limb their

estimates. the territory that russia controls has not changed considerably in the past four weeks. despite 100% of russia's forces amassed inside the border at this point in ukraine for more than a week now. according to "the new york times," morale is becoming an issue for the russian troops. more than 7,000 soldiers have been killed in three weeks including three high-ranking generals. in another sign of moscow's struggles, the white house announced president biden will be speaking with xi jinping tomorrow, a meeting that was asked for. the fact china says yes says a lot. nbc news reported earlier this week that russia sought military aid from beijing. but with their advances remaining stalled, the peace talks are ongoing, but vladimir putin remains defiant in his rhetoric comparing the west to nazi germany. so let's get a sense of where things are both on the ground and in the military part of things. richard engel is in kyiv. courtney kube is at the

pentagon. we have our national security analyst clint watts tracking the troop u. m movements on screen us. richard, this is what officials had sort of warned you and us in different ways that the russian military strategy sometimes when they're not making progress is to be a bit more brutal. are these attacks on food storage facility assign of that? >> reporter: i think they are. it seems that the russians are going after the civilian population because they're not having success going against ukraine's military. they are still attacking the military, but the russian forces are not taking new territory. in some places they are actually being pushed back. so they are going for a different kind of tactic, which is punishing the population, trying to drive this country toward some sort of peace agreement, a surrender

agreement, to try and extract concessions from ukraine as negotiations continue. but it doesn't also seem to be working because when they kill civilians here, the people just seem to be getting more and more united. i'm not seeing any signs that the brutal attacks on mariupol or on the outskirts of kyiv -- and by the way, it's not just the food storage they've been attacking, some villages on the outskirts of kyiv have been almost flattened. i spoke with the mayor of one of those villages and he's described how russian troops will move into an area, then they will just open fire on the houses around them, sort of in a crude forced protection method. and the mayor said that in one case they executed a local official, a colleague of his, and he also accused russians of -- i asked him if he had any evidence to support that. he said that he had spoken

directly to a victim. don't know how widespread that is. but that came directly from the mayor of one of the villages on the outskirts of kyiv. all of this when you combine it, the attacks on civilians, the lack of military advances, the allegations of rape by russian troops, all indicate an army that is frustrated, an army that is lacking discipline, and an army that is not progressing according to a battle plan. >> richard, have you been able to either observe orb report on how russia's been dealing with its military dead? where are these folks going? there's all sorts of -- you and i were talking earlier, and i want to be careful here, but have you been able -- we hear these estimates of numbers of their lost troops. where are they going? have they been sent back to russia in body bags? >> reporter: so, that's one of the big questions in all of this.

do the russian people know about the true number of casualties. "the new york times" is reporting there are 7,000, roughly 7,000 russian troops killed thus far. i've been told that the russian casualties have been massive. so there are russians who are dying in the battlefield here. the official russian estimates are far, far lower than that. so what are they doing with the remains? now, when this conflict was about to break out, there were numerous reports and photograps that russia had brought in machines to cremate bodies in the battlefield. i was told by a senior western intelligence official that those reports are credible. but i have not seen any evidence to back up the fact that they may or may not have been used. i'm only told these cremation machines, which are large vehicles like you would find in a crematorium, except mobile, i was told it had been credible they had been brought in the country, but no evidence that they've actually been used.

>> and the peace talks, do we take these talks seriously if russia is not going to do a cease-fire during the talks? i mean, should we basically not take the talks seriously until there's a real cease-fire? >> reporter: i think we need to take the talks seriously because the ukrainians are taking it seriously, the russians apparently are taking them seriously, at least the foreign ministry is, but it all goes down to putin. this was a conflict launched by one man who -- you see his body language, each within his own advisers how he's been ridiculing them in public. so you could have the negotiators come to agreement. you could have the ukrainian government come to agreement. you can have all of the national community working toward an agreement because even turkey is getting involved as potential guaranteer of the neutrality agreement. unless putin sees that he's

committed to it, then this war won't end. putin's strategy, similar to other strong-men leaders, is when they're backed into a corner, that he escalate, they look for a new opportunity, they create the crisis, they escalate and escalate and escalate hoping that some card will turn their way and they can find an off-ramp. that's been the pattern of a lot of megalomaniac strong-men leaders throughout history. we'll see if putin follows that pattern. >> in many cases the russian military, when they run into a wall. richard engel in kyiv for us. thank you. let me bring in courtney kube and clint watts. courtney, let me start with the military aid and the logistics of getting there. i know the pentagon is careful not to share how this is done, sources and methods, those things. is it getting more difficult, or is the russian lack of advancement continuing to make the flow pretty smooth? >> reporter: so, we don't have any indicationings it's getting

more difficult. the met we can point to is there are no reports that the russians have been attacking any of these supply shipments that have been coming into the country. and youp ear absolutely right, chuck. the u.s. is extremely guarded when talking about how they're getting this equipment in only telling us that they are able to get it to the ukrainian military, who is able to distribute it to the locations where it's needed. so at this point, you know, this has been -- it's been a pretty herculean effort just to get this enormous amount of equipment and support to ukraine, to get to this military. it's moving a lot faster than we usually see these kinds of things happen. i have to say it's a real testament or a real show of how this administration and the allies are really doing everything they can to get this aid to the ukrainians. it's literally moving faster than they can talk to us about what they're sending. that being said, it is an extremely dangerous mission to get that aid in. there's a tremendous amount of concern that the russians would

not only attack or target some of these shipments that are moving into the country but trying to intercement them as they're coming in. a lot of secrecy surrounding how they're doing that. >> i guess it's been remarkable they've yet to be able to stop one of these flows. i assume we would know about it. >> we've been asking the question. look, it's hard to know if the u.s. would tell us about it, especially if it wasn't a u.s. shipment of equipment. but we've been asking the question every day, even as recently as today, still no report successfully targeted by the russians. >> clint, walk us through -- it's obviously still a stalled ground operation. this is now -- it seems as if they're trying to lay siege to some of these cities. start with mariupol. can you discern their military strategy here? >> yeah, chuck. i think this is really indyk tich of what we'll see the rest of the way out. warfare, they're trying to cut

off each of these cities, particularly mariupol where they have laid siege with using indirect fires from artillery, cruise missile strikes like we saw. that is essentially what i think we'll see the rest of the way, particularly in the east. this footage is clearly not a miracle target they hit yesterday with that school. just in terms of the terror they're trying to inflict here, across the board they're hitting every target, civilian targets, removing ukrainian leemders. that story you heard from richard about a ukrainian official b essentially being executed, if you come down to the south, and i think this is where we play into the bigger picture here, there are many reports of this, particularly in kherson. that's a place they've tried to set up a statelet, essentially like donbas in this region and say this will be an independent state. they've put in their own mayor. most importantly, they each started to take over the tv stations and radio stations there. they want to take over the communication. big picture, though, the russians are in trouble. this advance yesterday, if you

read the "wall street journal" and this account, outside of here, it is crazy. they lost an entire battalion tactical group, about 100 dead soldiers in one battle. >> one battle. >> this is not necessarily a ukrainian stronghold. this is a small ukrainian force. this is a territorial defense force. this is a town defending itself, remarkable, remarkable what they've been able to do. >> essentially guerrilla warfare. >> yeah. this is where it comes to the weapons. when you look at this, though, big picture, where would they go over time or how might this end, we've talked about the idea they could take the south. the russians are doing resupply in places here on this sea of azov. you see them pulling in ships. now they're doing logistics. they're using railways. this might be an area where they try to settle on if they can't take anything else. i think the other part we're seeing is reports of russian

navy out here in the black sea aiming for odesa, but they can't do that unless they can really extend and essentially cut off odesa from the north. otherwise they'll always be dealing with ukrainian resupplying. >> clint, i have a source that indicated odesa more vulnerable on land than at sea. >> it is. from sea -- i mean, the city backs right up. i think we have a picture of it here. the city backs right up to -- let me see if i can break out -- it backs right up to the sea as you can see. and so anything that's coming in naval, anything coming in by water, this will likely be mined so they can't approach very aggressively. from the land they can get cut off and be encircled over time. i don't understand how over time if you look at any of the places the russians control here they can sustain this. they're attacking on too many fronts. their logistics are terrible. and the last part is the weapons. these two weapons alone, this is

the javelin on the left, this is the stinger on the right, tanks and aircraft, if they come in too low, they're being shot down. anything on the ground is being eaten up by small squads. it's an almost impossible fight over time for the russians. >> that's what everybody seems to be coming to that conclusion. and yet they have not -- they keep banging their head against this brick wall. courtney and clint, thank you. i'm joined by the ceo of the country's largest pharmaceutical community, amid this russian assault in kyiv he's been housing employees, has families in his facilities, basically it's turned into a bomb shelter. he's been driving to cities across ukraine distributing medical supplies. tell me what you see. first of all, thank you for spending a few minutes. these are harrowing times and you feel responsible for it sounds like than just your own family and your own self. tell me what you're seeing right now. >> well, as has been indicated by your reporters, we clearly

see assaults on the civilian targets, more and more. russians attacking villages. they are robbing villages. they are taking away phones. they arrest people. we've seen cases as been stated before of people sending away. the risks -- there's a lot of people moving to evacuation zones, but at the same time the russians are not giving green corridors. we can see that the cars or the trucks delivering pharmaceutical products and carrying sometimes red crosss, they've been shelled by russians. getting into mariupol is really a challenge. getting to other cities in, for example, the volunteers work who have been able to deliver some

of the drugs is critical for people. shelling took place. there's casualties there as well. civilian casualties. that's what we see. there are more and more attacks on the civilian targets. that's what we see tonight. >> telling me about getting supplies into kyiv. i assume it's getting harder. are you still able to get supplies into the city? >> well, there are ways how to get to the city. the cities have been supplied with food, necessary food, and medical products. we have been delivering particularly our company, we've been delivering products to multiple hospitals in kyiv, so there is a necessary reserve in case of severe casualties that could take place if russia would use the same strategy in kyiv as in kharkiv. we've seen significant challenge of -- for people to access is pharmacies because pharmacies have been opened but at the same

time, people are working and districting drugs. driving around the country, we've been recruiting drivers as volunteers because delivering drugs, we have to maintain the right temperature regime so that, you know, drugs is okay. you need to make sure all the standards are in place, and we are adhering to this. we have people working night shifts to make sure that we get things produced and delivered across the country because the needs are pretty high. and i want to thank everyone who is getting and helping us to deliver the drugs which are necessary for people. >> let me ask you about just basics like electricity, food and water, you're able to telecommunications -- they're still usable. how secure are those -- do you feel as if the ukrainian military or other forces are

able to keep this going? keep kyiv running? >> well, in terms of strategic objects, there are -- under control of ukrainian security forces and military forces. so we have electricity in the cities which are controlling -- where we control the grounds. the electricity is delivered, the water, the heat is delivered. at the same time, there are areas which have been cut off from electricity, particularly at either the cities where either encircled or the russians being cutting off the grid. mariupol, parts of kharkiv, these are the areas cut off from the food and water and electricity supply and heating. the temperature during the night is going to go up to minus 10 in some areas, 10 degrees celsius, i'm sorry. >> right. >> so, yeah. and that's how we have the

challenge. banking system works. we can still do transactions. we can -- supply of gasoline is also a challenge across the country. but there is the refilling of the supplies. there is restrictions on the amount of gasoline you can get into your tanks, but this is still holding on. and people understand that and there is the right coordination between civilians as well as military and a lot of volunteers. >> i'm curious. i assume you have contacts, maybe acquaintances in russia. have you been able to talk with them and tell them what's actually been happening? >> i think the majority of russians disappeared after the 21st of february. there's no -- nobody came out. i know friends to -- whose families stopped bonding.

i think the cowardice of russians is clear, very obvious. they're not only afraid to stand up to the regime, they are afraid to even talk to their relatives. they are afraid to talk to ordinary people. they are shooting at the civilians. so, there is clearly full support of genocide against ukraine across all the russian population. >> dmytro, ceo of a pharmaceutical company, former government official, really appreciate you sharing your story. stay safe. godspeed to you, sir. thank you. >> thank you very much for having me. as we mentioned, we are awaiting remarks from secretary of state antony blinken, which are scheduled to begin in about ten minutes or so. we'll bring you those live. first, what congress plans to do next and what the latest intelligence signals about the future of the conflict. chairman of the senate intelligence committee mark warner joins me next. t now, thes happening across the country. small businesses are fed up with big bills and 5g maps that are mostly gaps—

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welcome back. as we mentioned, we've reached a critical point in the russian invasion of ukraine as putin's advance appears to have stall fpd west continues to rally around zelenskyy. could there be a window opening to potentially end this war? russian negotiators are talking about cease-fires and other plans at the same time inflicting brutal damage to civilians in ukraine. russia's losses are growing and its economy is collapsing. joining me is the chairman of the select committee is virginia senator mark warner. senator, let me start with an assessment on putin these days, which is simply he knows he's stuck. is he looking for a way out yet, or is he still looking for an advantage in negotiations? >> chuck, i don't know the answer to that. i think -- i'm not sure anyone

in our intelligence community, this is a guy, an autocrat more and more isolated. the number of inputs he gets is smaller and smaller. we see this where dictators get more and more isolated leading to their demise. we're not 100% sure he's getting accurate reports of how badly the russian invasion is going. it's remarkable in a way that we're still seeing these images real time come out of ukraine. you remember a number of -- russia intervened in kazakhstan. after a couple days they shut down the internet. the fact we're getting these images and the press is still able to report, i give you guys kudos. at the end of the day, part of this battle was about the notion of democracy and a free press versus the kind of limited propaganda approach that russia's putting forward. i thought your last guest was

very -- an important point that he's not even sure his russian friends are getting the true story of what's happening on the ground. >> it was very interesting to talk to him. he was very matter of fact and there was this anger at the end that you could feel. it tells you peace will not be easy here. every day this goes on, as brutal as putin is getting, what zelenskyy might have been comfortable negotiating yesterday he won't be comfortable negotiating tomorrow here. so when it comes to trying to find an end game here, let me ask you this, this way -- do we need to get prepared if for fact that we may have to see this end with putin still in charge of russia and maybe with him getting back into the world order if he agrees to certain conditions? >> you know, chuck, i'm not prepared to weigh in on that yet. clearly putin is -- i think president biden is right. i think he is a war criminal. >> should he have said that? >> no. but, you know, i think it's

important to say that. i think it's important to call out these actions. i frankly think we ought to go ahead and sanction every member of the russian parliament, the duma. we should hold these russian officers accountable for their willingness to bomb clearly civilian targets. i think this needs to be an economic effort, and i commend what we've done. i also commend the american companies who have pulled out of doing business with russia. we need to continue to send additional military aid. one of your earlier guests with the stingers and the javelins, we need to give larger range anti-aircraft tools that can take out some of those russian assets at a longer range basis. and i think we need to say to the russian leadership we are going to hold -- we, the world at large, are going to hold you accountable. one thing president biden does tomorrow i think is to say to president xi in china, if you continue this alliance, and frankly, what we have heard is the chinese economic advisers

are concerned that this is really a putin-xi relationship, not a china/russian roip, we need to bring all forms of pressure to bear. >> is xi agreeing to this meeting good news in your view? does this tell you something that he wants to take maybe a half step away from putin? >> i don't have direct insight on that. but we know this has been a rocky relationship. we know that, you know, the chinese crave stability. we are going into an unstable period. i take it as a good sign he's taken the call from president biden. >> on the issue of weapons, and there's obviously -- i get the sense that congress wants to do more than the pentagon does right now. do you get that sense, that there's a bipartisan eagerness here? let's do more, whether it's, you know, getting slovenia to send there, replace those weapons systems, is there a majority -- do you feel like you're having to push the biden administration a little bit?

>> chuck, this is a very delicate balance. i mean, the fact is, and i think we need to get this more -- ukraine's got over 50 aircraft left. the fact the russians were so inept at taking out the ukrainian air force day one is one more example of their ineptitude. they still have a large number of migs and other aircraft they can fly. they are not flying the number of sories we would have expected. the ability to take out the russian aircraft i think can be better served by stingers and these -- some of these systems you've indicated that can be moved from those countries adjacent. without the potential -- what we don't want to do -- you've started this interview with questions about putin's mind-set. what you don't want to do is give putin the excuse to

escalate this up into a realm that suddenly has nato and russia literally in armed conflict. and striking that balance in a way also -- because remember, the ability to send whether it's jets or other things, we have so far maintained total lock step with nato. i know for a fact that many of those nato countries would be reluctant on some of these moves. we have to keep the alliance united and we have to keep ratchetting up the pressure. there's a real tension here. you're absolutely right. >> last questions on the economy. i'm sure you read larry summers' op-ed in "the washington post" the other day. he is warning stagflation and recession without massive federal reserve intervention is more likely than ever. do you concur? >> i think -- i'm glad to see the fed start the process. i think they're going to need to continue to ratchet up rates. i think there are things -- this gets harder when you've got a war going on with all its

disruption. i think there are some low-hanging fruit, passing the so-called chips bill that would invest if american semiconductor production so we could ease supply chain challenges. that's not going to have an midfield reaction, but it will be a good signal to the market that we are working in a united way to take on some of these supply chain issues. but the fed has its job cut out for it. that's one of the reasons we need to approve the second federal reserve board members. luckily, we got four out last night, but we need a full-time federal reserve. i've been very disappointing that for weeks on end some of my republican colleagues could have voted no, but they wouldn't even come to a meeting. >> senator mark warner, a member of the finance committee, which is why i asked him that question. but chair of the tell committee. >> and banking. >> and banking. still to come, how will the western allied forces respond to putin's growing aggression against civilians? the ambassador joins me right

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major war crimes. so to me, this is not important. what is important in this case is he is doing everything possible to attack civilians, hoping to break the spirit of the ukrainian people. and the reason this is a major crime is because even under war, yes, there are things he could in theory do. he could go kill mothers and children hoping at some point another government will g say, look, i cannot tolerate any more of these deaths. i will give up. international law says because that danger of that violence is there, you can't do it. so putin is committing crimes.

he is, as we speak, invading a country by violating international law that he simply doesn't want on the map. he is doing it in a premeditated fashion and he is also trying to do something else. not just kill the ukrainians literally on the ground but also the international peace order that exists after the second world war that ensures that might is not right. if he succeeds in that, think of all the bullies around the world that will try to do the same. >> so, i'm going to ask you a similar question that i asked the u.s. senator on the show earlier. do we have to prepare, is europe prepared for some sort of peace deal that keeps putin in power himself, and then we suddenly have to work with him again? or is there a point, is he pastn the point of no return anymore? >> i'm not prepared to speak on this but i will tell you this. he is cornered and he is dangerous. he is not getting what he

wanted. >> will he be dangerous for as long as he leads the country? >> we'll have to wait and see only. ise found it very interesting. that very strange speech he gave yesterday about some people in russia needed to be spit out like flies from russian mouths, referring to oligarchs and others, that the country needed to be cleansed. >> which means he doesn't like what he's hearing. >> he's hearing something. and we made sure the european union with the massive sanctions we post on him we made sure those oligarchs would be at the topar of the list because honestly, people areca trying t analyze psychologically putin. i'm not an expert on psychology. what i care to do is to be prepared for any eventualiality of whatever may pop into his mind. at this stage, there are people around him who may not be in the

same black space, the cornered space that he may be feeling. >> it's interesting. that's the real question. i've heard reports indicating that, there's only about maybe two or three people that are fully, knew the plans and all this stuff. do you think there are people who can get to him? >> well, we'll see. apparently some are getting to him. he is hearing things he doesn't want to hear which is why he made that speech. but look. let's have no delusions about this. that's not a democracy. putin came in and he is cracking down his own people for years. a civilr society. just independent, peaceful people that in any democracy, they are allowed to exist. he's cracking down. that's not a democracy. he is tremendously isolated, obviously. is he getting the right information? i doubt it. i've seen other situations like that. can we therefore trust his decision-making is rational? i doubt it.

but what i do know is that we have upended his plans. what i do know is that his economy is crashing. not just now but in the medium term when he has to change it. what i do know is these are having massive effects with the russian people who are not certainly our enemy. they are becoming his enemy. putin is putting them in the target. >> i want to ask, president zelenskyy has been doing this, speaking to western legislatures, and today was germany. he had somes tough words for t germans. take a listen. >> how is it possible when we told you that the russians were preparing weapons and troops and we knew that we were preparing, that they were preparing for war but all you get is the economy? so where is your leadership? where is your force? why is the country beyond the atlantic closer to us than you?

>> he has been an effective spokesperson and wanted everybody to, you know, feel a little uncomfortable in the western alliance. he's looking for more help. i wonder if his remarks will trigger a new posture from the e.u.e will we expect an e.u. that maybe needs to have a defense system, a strong military? or do you want more fusing with nato? what is going to be, what is going to be the e.u.'s reaction? >> okay. so what has been the reaction already and what will be. thean reaction has been for the first time in history, we have financed half aor billion and i will be more now, of lethal weapons to go to, a country in conflict. the european has, among the first member statesam to do so germany. so the stingers, all that stuff is coming from germany. >> and they have not done that ever. >>ot no. and you understand with germ nil's history, after the second

world war. >> a lot of other countries that didn't want them to have weapons. >> that, too. >> but germany has announced the massive increase of the defense budgetns this year alone. and germany has contributed massively to the nato troops that have gone to support the eastern flank of nato given putin's aggression. this, however, is not the beginning of our realization as european that's we need to do much more as defense. we've been trying for years and we're investing much more together to create abilities. a few years back when we said we would do this, there were some voices in the states as well that that why do you want to do that? you already have nato. the answer is, i don't have a french army and then a french nato army or a grek army and then a greek nato army. it is one army. if that army becomes stronger, more efficient and more lethal, that means that nato is stronger and more efficientto and it can prevent people like putin because it will be perceived as

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welcome back. the united nations now says 7 million ukrainians could become refugees as the war continues. already over 3 million ukrainians have fled the country, to making the countries. the number in poland continues to rise. close to 2 million in poland alone. the spokesman for the u.n. refugee agency says they are deeply traumatized about what they've been experiencing. >> the numbers in the last few days have been a bit more stable, at a lower level, but

for the next days and weeks, we simply don't know. it is quite possible the numbers could pick up again. what we've seen in the last few days is indeed, the refugees who have been coming across are more vulnerable in a more traumatic state than those ones who came in the first days and maybe the first weeks. >> there's another sobering statistic. even if the war ends, this massive humanitarian problem will still remain. poverty. the u.n. predicts up to 90% of ukrainians are at risk of poverty if this continues. the houses are going away. our report he spoke to a grandmother and her two grand sons who said they have nothing left in ukraine. >> translator: it is hard to say. i don't think there is a place to go back. our city was completely destroyed. we don't have a house there.

the schools or anything else won't be rebuilt any time soon. we don't even have our house anymore.

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for covid after arriving in washington yesterday, but joked they are getting closer to their st. patrick's day meeting. >> we are meeting across the road, so we are getting closer. >> the positive test meant the president had to carry out his st. patrick's day alone. he will host another celebration with just the first lady at the white house this afternoon. can't have a happy st. patrick's day without having kelly o'donnell on from the white house. we have to. kelly, we forget this is joe biden's favorite holiday, is it not? >> and mine as well. the covid testing at the white house today, they gave us green bands, so they were, at least, in the spirit. the irony was it was two years

ago, chuck, when things blew up with covid with the former t shuck that came to visit with the former president, president trump, and so they wanted to do the passing of the bowl of shamrocks and covid finds a way to interrupt those kinds of plans. they were able to carry on the flag of ireland above blair house across from the white house. they are doing their best to suffer this st. patrick's day. a little bit of the irish humor and a little bit of the irish poetry might ease a few souls as well, chuck. >> i should ask, is the fountain green? >> the fountain is under repair. isn't that a metaphor for a lot of things. >> sure is. >> they have been doing work on

the fountain on this side of the white house, but the president had that sprig in his pocket. now peace is certainly talking about what to do to bring the europeans together with partners around the world with ukraine, so the themes are certainly relevant and the hopes of many people to be able to come together in peace. that certainly is something that stands out today. >> it does. of course, we have taken st. patrick's day, and planned march madness around it and when it's super charged when the first round of the ncaa tournament and st. paddy's day comes together in sports bars. that does it for this hour. we will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily."

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i am katy tur. it's day 22 of russia's war in ukraine. here's what we know. we just got breaking news from the state department confirming the death of a u.s. citizen in ukraine today. no other details on that death