he began the readout in week four of russia's unprovoked war in ukraine. while the ukrainian people resist, with russian troops installed in their ground advances, it has become clear that vladimir putin has no qualms when it comes to slaughtering civilians for the state department called a u.s. citizen it was killed during an

assault on civilians while waiting in a bread line. russia continues to attack ukrainian capital. their strategies to put the city under siege. here's a this speech from our colleague. >> reporter: russia has resorted to siege warfare and surrounded the city and here in kyiv, it seems russia wants to start people out. this was one of the country's biggest food storage facilities and it is completely destroyed. >> it is a strategy that is underweight in the key port city of mario pulled. the images as you are about to see a graphic. they have been under siege for 16 days with the ukrainian government says the situation is critical. 80% of housing has been destroyed and food is scarce. hospital workers are doing their best to protect babies in

incubators from shelling. here is a resident, speaking russian, describing a horrific situation and genocide. >> it is a war. for my city. >> up to 1000 people had been sheltering in a drama theater, trying to avoid that deadly bombardment. despite signs that read "children", in russian, at the back and front of the theater, rusher bomb did it anyways. this morning, there is evidence that the russian celebrated the fact that they were trying to kill children. >> we know from back channel stuff, some encrypted apps that russian military were using. they were cheering the fact that they killed children. this was not an accidental bombing. >> we don't know how many might

have lost their life in the attack. residents are able to leave the city today. many heading to another city where ukrainian musicians posted a video children at a hospital which nbc has not verified. he said they were trying to get away from the russian world but the russian army went after them. lost lakes. torn internal organs. these are real signs of russian love. >> at least 108 children have died and more than 120 been injured from the war so far. russia is trying to guess like the entire old world. the spokesman from the kremlin claimed that the atrocities that russia is committing is fake video stage by nato. russia's ambassador echoed that's claiming the west is engaged in a campaign of lies and disinformation. >> in desperation, putin is

lashing out printing to cleanse russia, the pro-western traders and scum. it is clear he has been humiliated on the battlefield where the morale is low. where the generals were killed after ukrainian forces intercepted his phone call. date geo located it and attacked his location. the problem is, putin will only stop when he realizes the war is unwinnable. he appears to be doubling down. join me now is cal perry. give us the latest on what you know of where you are and elsewhere in ukraine? >> reporter: i think this during the last 24 hours that you saw in the report is we are seeing the direct targeting of civilian's and their infrastructure. this is how civilian population survive and we are seeing these things being taken out. in the northern part of a country, it was extensively targeted. this is one of less

people people could get food. using the video. you talked about this. a bread line, at least 10 people "gun down". they were waiting in line for bread. you have that green factory, the largest supply of food for the city that has been directly targeted. it seems clear the strategy the russians are employing are not to indiscriminately target civilians, or directly target them as they leave, but now to target the things that sustain life in the cities. she tried though break the back of these civilian populations. what is most fascinating about this, the russians seem to be taking incredible, heavy casualties. we are in the past hour, from the deputy prime minister, who said she is working with the red cross. they're talking about eventually transferring 14,000 that russian soldiers back to russia. we can't independently verify

that number is accurate except to say, the last 30 minutes, we heard from president zelenskyy in which he said in that address, we did not want, nor did we expect the bodies of some 13,000 russian soldiers. we cannot independently verify these numbers. we are hearing from officials here, on the ground, in ukraine, those that russian soldiers could number in, upwards of 10,000. these two things may be connected. russian troop, the russian army and officials using his unsecured lines are not making the military gains in the speed in which they should. they're punishing the civilian population. you saw that is to be mentioned again, and that city, there russian soldiers up with them in the main hospital of that city who are using patience wooded civilians as human shields. it is a desperation that we have seen from the russian army

in places like syria. we are seeing it playing out across these eastern cities in ukraine where the situation is becoming so desperate that you people who can go above ground for food. there is no more food. >> cal, if i could ask. you have been a correspondent that is covered conflict. i wonder if it surprises you, how third-rate the russian army has turned out to be? this sounds like a rag tag army that doesn't have combat experience let alone the kind of experience that would allow them, they could lay waste to the capital but it doesn't seem like the kind of army that could take hold of it? >> reporter: yes. absolutely. the body of russian soldiers in the streets. that tells us russian doesn't even control the battle space on the ground in the places

they are invading. i have never seen a modern army leave the bodies of soldiers behind. it is something the u.s. army as part of their code in the sum of these units. we don't leave anyone behind. i've never seen that in a conflict where the invading army is either pushed away so hard or so disorganized they don't control it. the turkish drones, we talked about this 40 mile , by outside of kyiv. some vehicles i've installed. running out of fuel. turkish drones have been strafing these convoys. they have killed a high number of russian soldiers. these are basic drones that should be able to be shot out or jammed. there is incompetence the russian army showing. it is scaring people here that putin is being pushed into a corner. what could he do? that's a fair. the army has not done what it thought it would do. >> so much for being a superpower. cal perry, thank

you very much. i'm joined now by tom nichols. and charles carruthers. i will ask you the same questions. you teach students of war. you teach our war makers. i've been stunned. the idea that there were two big superpowers, the united states and russia, was predicated on the idea that russia is a lethal army. what this sounds like is sort of a terrorist gang. they kill a lot of people and done a lot of damage. the story that the army doesn't have enough food to supply themselves. having to abandon their vehicles because they don't have enough fuel. this sounds like a ragtag third- rate army. are you surprised? >> my expectations were low and the russian army managed to get

under them. even the soviet military, at its height, had discipline problems. had coordination and logistical problems. because scott these are not soldiers that are trained to think on their feet. we are used to thinking about militaries like the u.s. and modern european militaries. they prize things like initiative and leadership whereas the russian military has prized obedience and procedure. and, they are paying for it now. they are poorly trained. their officers don't care about them. they are, the equivalent of their noncommissioned officer corps is brutal and cruel to their own recruits and conscripts. when you throw a bunch of folks, who have been trained with that kind of brutality, into a situation without a fight for their lives, anywhere they don't want, you are going to get this.

there is no other play than just to unload all of your ammunition. flatten everything and run when you're being defeated. so, it is bad but i didn't think, i knew it would be bad. i didn't think it would be this bad. >> ever exist to the point. charles, welcome to the show. i want play this for you. despite being incompetent, and messy, what she said they still need. take a look. >> the support we received today, the packages that president biden has announced is very helpful. that is very helpful but not enough. we need jets. we need jets with a javelin, a drone, or the javelin. we need another plane to shoot the plane. we need to put down their airplanes they don't bombard

children and women. >> charles, i want to ask that question. given what you seen, do you agree with this? that jets would allow them to stop the slaughter? >> the problem is most of the damage being done is by units from the ground. they are getting hit by missiles and artillery. i don't want a second guess the ukrainian parliament are presidents and look for. they want these jets first to keep their skies clear. as a symbol of commitment. commitment from the west to get those jets to them. in terms of things that are actually causing death and distraction, those jets would have to go after ground units, that are inflecting this damage. that is really what's going on. the russian air force, if we're talking about the poor performance of the russian army, the russian army has done well compared to the miserable

performance will russian air force which is not been a major part of this fight. i would have to say, i was shocked. i assume they'll go after the ukrainian air force. but, two thirds of the ukrainian air force is still flying against supposedly a superpower. i still think the big problem for the ukrainians is a stepping fired from the ground, at ground units, and civilians rather than what's coming from fighter jets or fighter-bombers. >> charles, to bring you into this. whether or not it is the thing that what turned the tide the most. do you foresee the united states 's finding some way to go ahead and give than the jets anyway if they believe they needed? given how they have filed at least held russia? >> we have listened to the very powerful words of president zelenskyy during the joint session of congress. invoking dr. martin luther

king, i have a dream. iva dream for freedom in the skies. through president biden, nato has reaffirmed there will not be a no fry zone over the ukraine. doing so would cause an escalation. i don't think we are willing to swap the escalation with russia. >> let me ask you this, charles. isn't the escalation and play? we may not want to be in world war iii. we were in world war ii and a half at least. russia has made it clear that they are not responsive to the kind of sanctions, to the kind of discipline that the global community has at its disposable to get them to behave in civilized ways. this is a manic dictator in russia right now. do you think it behooves the west, not just the united states, at the west in general, to think about this differently? it is not about avoiding

conflict or thresh up. we are in conflict with russia. >> something has to be done. president putin has complete disregard for human life. at least 43 hospitals have been attacked. he has used chemical weapons before. this individual wants to breaks the will of ukraine. the west will have to do something, to further assist ukraine. i do not for see vladimir putin and russian forces holding back at all. >> clearly. it is palpable on how we get this to and? >> what will peace look like? i will be joined by an advisor to president zelenskyy. >> also, american companies who are still doing business in russia. >> plus, unesco history of brutality.

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as a humanitarian crisis grows, negotiations between the two countries have continued. this week, the russian foreign minister claimed that parts of the ukraine compromise deal were close. ukrainian president zelenskyy was skeptical. zelenskyy acknowledge that ukraine will not be joining nato. ukrainian neutrality is a

russian demand. a kremlin spokesman told bloomberg news said major progress was wrong. if the ukrainian government and russian negotiators come to an agreement, could anyone, let alone ukraine, trust putin? can anybody trust him to keep his promises after his lies, deception and land grapes. yesterday, he remained defiant in a manic speech to the russian people. he reiterate his baseless claims. he also claimed that a so- called special military operation, his euphemism for killing innocent civilians was developing successfully and solve this plan. i'm joint by now the former president advisor to president zelenskyy.

why would anybody trust any deal with food and? >> first of all, let me remind you this war came out of a previous deal with russia. at the same time, it didn't resolve any problems. this is my personal opinion. i think these negotiations are a smokescreen and a delaying tactic for rush up until, or unless, there's an offramp for putin, as sustainable pressure from the west and ukrainian army, i think these talks will not lead to anything. there's another possibility. if you want to switch as is attention elsewhere to focus on belarus or poland, maybe there will be a new agreement with

russia and ukraine. and, talk about that for a few months. >> i will show you a picture. this is this adorable ukrainian little boy. he went to go and sign up. he was handed back to his mom by ukrainian soldiers. the tweet said this is something a mosque i will never understand. the resolve of the ukrainians is so solid and so thorough. it is impossible for me to imagine an end to this war. i don't believe that that the tater from russia is sane. to be blunt. doesn't make sense for people to try to get food and an offramp? the s idea that the ukraine says they want joan nato. don't join nato for what?

to guarantees? what does your crane get for giving us their nukes? security guarantees? on the offense would seem to invite russia to come back and take more chunks of ukraine. >> there is an offramp. not an offramp but a weapon that can be used against boudin. to explain that women, let me explain why president zelenskyy feels comfortable. that's because of nearly 2 million angry ukrainians running him in kyiv. that's the best security. look, while everyone is assessing their military strategy, the main war is happening in russia at the moment. if you study the history of the soviet union, there were two periods in the soviet union when he grew weaker. that was the khrushchev era and gorbachev.

the u.s. as our leaders let the west into the hearts and minds in the russian people. they can be the way. what we should do is focus attention into inwards, into russia. and, try to get rid of the fifth column and finish brainwashing the russian population. when he cements that bubble, i think that's what the real dangers occur for the world. he doesn't care about sanctions. any dictator, if he causes harm to his people, they will die of hunger with a smile on their face. if he's finishing what he starts, we are in danger.

all the peace talks will fail with ukraine. then, he will invoke article 5. he is incredibly trigger-happy. he is used chemical weapons. i fully agree with you. putin has become in hitch. the only people he fears is a russian people. that is when we are in trouble. i really wanted to point out what arnold schwarzenegger did yesterday. he directly addressed the russian's people. he sent a telegraph to the russian population. unless we reach the people first, unless we show them what's happening in ukraine, most people in russia don't know what's happening in ukraine. they are thinking some random, weird nazia of taken over

ukraine. that's the most important thing. >> we have a clip of it. i don't know we have a right now. i watched it. it is about an eight minute clip. is on arnold schwarzenegger's twitter feed. you believe more celebrities. that's global. everybody loves stars and celebrities. arnold schwarzenegger has connections. he is an international celebrity. is that what you think should be done? the more people who can crack through the echo chamber, people who are stars. do you think that something more celebrities should do? >> that something we are actually missing from this equation. we are getting that.

we are grateful for that. the sanctions are beginning to work. we need more consolidation. the multinational businesses need to leave russia. so, that's working. now, the battle for the hearts and minds of the russian population. if boudin sells them this idea they don't need mcdonald's, coca-cola, they don't need western music. they don't need hollywood. all they need is moscow films, then, we are in real trouble. let me remind you, the russian population is very different. i don't think we stand any chance of russia getting into the villages and the rural areas. the fate of that evil empire, is usually decided in two cities. that's moscow and st. petersburg. that is where you people with the internet.

boudin would switch off the internet. he doesn't need it. if he's afraid of the people, he's doing it gradually. he bands instagram. he bands facebook. he is banning local, russian artists. he will ban western artists from coming to russia. as soon as he is done doing that. as soon as he can go on the russian population, that is when he gets the green light to do what he wants. and what he wants is incredibly dangerous and terrible to the entire planet. >> you call the right term because it is emerging as a neo- north korea. it appears that is where we are headed. i appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. thank you so much. we really appreciate your time. you perfectly set up what we want to talk about next.

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and a throwback to the soviet era, vladimir putin is saying he intends to seize the assets of companies have cut ties with russia over the war in ukraine. his goal is to nationalize or businesses and take them over and operate them under new, kremlin approved, management. to that end, the speaker of russia's parliament is replacing russia, mcdonald's, with a new brand of russian restaurant. the name brand may look familiar. this is a proposed logo. they just turn the mcdonald's logo on its side. it is almost as funny as a fictional restaurant chain mcdowell's. >> they are make donald's. i'm mcdowell's. >> that movie was a comedy. it was meant to be funny. but, russia's real-life attempt

to rebuff the most iconic fast food restaurant is laughable. it is not meant to be a joke. mcdonald's is among 400 companies cutting ties with rusher either by pulling out entirely or suspending their business. with that said, there are roughly 30 companies that have remained in operation in russia including the parent company of brands like reebok and carvel ice cream and lg electronics. and surprise, coke industries. people who want russia to in their war against ukraine might want to avoid those products. in particular, they own several businesses. let's be clear. koch's paper towel, toilet paper, and afghans can't white boy the blood russia spelled on ukrainian soil. as president zelenskyy said,

the russian market is flooded with ukrainian blood. >> all american companies must leave russia from their market. leave their market immediately. because, it is flooded with our blood. i am asking to make sure that that the russians do not receive a single penny that the use to destroy people in ukraine. >> let me add that the history of koch industries is telling. the koch family started out by building refineries for stalin and hitler. up next, given putin unrestrained brutality in ukraine is something new, you have been paying enough attention. how this war is turning into everything putin watch has predicted next on the readout.

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in 1994, russian troops invaded chechen in to crush the small republic's demands for independence. relentless interest rates reduce cities to rubble. despite the superior military, russia lost the war. in 1997, the last humiliated russian troops left. only two invaded again three years later when president boris yeltsin, newly named prime minister, vladimir putin launched a disastrous assault. russian tanks rolled into chechnya. this time, russian forces to good control. it is the same brutality we are seeing today. boudin's army pounding towns in residential areas.

similar to the resistance in chechnya, ukrainians are fighting back and still hold the keys. boudin has double down bombing maternity hospitals. forcing survivors to emerge risk being bombed again as they flee. the dad left in mass graves. the harder we saw is here again. join me now is vladimir carmel czar. i feel so lucky to see you. you said this before. i got this from you. i will say what you said to me back to you. boudin does this because he keeps getting away with it. he got away with it in syria. he got away with it and changing up. how do we avoid the same outcome we see in chet sheena which is a puppet government. >> thank you for reminding your views. the war in chechnya is vladimir putin's original sin. it is not just the war but the bombings in apartments in russia.

now, nobody doubts this is a deliberate provocation. imagine the mindset, of a man, who would go up peaceful citizens of his own country because those bombings happen in the middle of the night to create a pretext for war and begin this propaganda to come to power. this is how he began. >> he was try family coming in like he won world war ii single- handedly. >> the first thing putin did when he came to power, when he became president after president laura schultz and, he started another war. the war against civil society, and independent media in russia. he shut down all of independent television networks. he began imprisoning his opponents. all the while, transformed russia from the imperfect democracy we had back in the

90s to the perfect dictatorship it is today. all this time, western leaders, both west european and north american, continued to welcome him to summits, offer him proper treatment. exactly. so, this is the way that a dictators mindset works. it is the most horrible idea. for a normal democratic leader, compromises a good thing. if you are a dictator like vladimir putin, s compromise is a sign of weakness. after completing his crackdown domestically in russia, after destroying the vestiges of democracy and institutions of checks and balances, mister boudin turned his attention outward because domestic oppression and external aggression are two sides of the

same story. he turned his attention on georgia. he took away part of its territory. after that was ukraine. we have seen a horrendous escalation but the attack in ukraine began eight years ago in 2014. the first formal state to state annexation in europe. he also got away with this. with the horrible war crimes in syria. put yourself in his shoes. if being getaway for all of this for 22 years, why not try what is trying now. except, this time, he tried to buy more than he could chew. even for those western appeasers, who are willing to look the other way, the site of cluster bombs in residential areas. the bombings of maternity wards, schools and hospitals, even for them, that is too much. >> what do you do about it?

if ukraine promises not to be in nato, he will stop. why would he stop? he is grabbed huge chunks of the country. why doesn't he come back for more? russia is deteriorating into north korea. what do you do about it? he talked about arnold schwarzenegger but this pete on telegram. he speaking with russian subtitles speaking into russia. and you said this, the only way to bring down this regime is from within. can this help? >> they can. they are helping ukraine withstand the aggression from this regime. in the last three weeks, putin launched a war, not only on ukraine, which is stalling. the other let's creek

successfully was the destruction of a remained of independent media in russia, including legendary moscow radio stations. i my weekly show until two weeks ago. everything was destroyed. the only source of information for russian citizens estate propaganda. the only strategic endgame to this, the only solution, the only way to stop this unending streak of crimes and oppression and the war of aggression is to have this deranged dictator out of power. only russians, in russia, can do that. nobody is advocating regime change from the outside. it is important that the free world stands in solidarity and helps the russian people get the truth, get the objective information about these horrendous war crimes and crimes against humanity that

the putin regime is committing supposedly on behalf of our country. >> what do you say to the heads of companies like the koch brothers . >> they will hear from their consumers. we have seen this. the history of boycotting such regimes is long and noble. i think those companies that refuse to do this will paid dearly. what is also important to say now is that i very much hope that all those companies, including the donald's and others, returned to russia very soon. not because they're caving to putin's dictatorship but putin is gone. >> we will continue following that as well. he is imprisoning people, like yourself, who are politicians. do you know what? with south africa's regime and

putin regime have in common is their fascists. i appreciate talking with you.

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my husband and older brother stayed at home to defend our homeland. our lovely homeland. we hope that our fighters will be back safe. glory to ukraine and our heroes. we hope that all this will end soon and we will return home. >> for others, the journey is even more daunting, because they're being held to different standards. joining me now is korrine sky who had to flee ukraine and was subjected to discrimination at the border. she tried to make it back to england. she founded black women for black lives, trying to raise money to help rescue black people who are, especially students, being discriminated against while trying to flee ukraine. korrine sky, thank you for being here. i saw you on tiffany's show and i wanted to get you on my show

as well. your story is so harrowing. i wanted you to tell the audience, how difficult was it for you to get out of ukraine? >> hello, joy. thank you for having me. so the day after kyiv was bombed, i left. the cues were so ridiculous, trying to get everything together because we knew the journey would be long. we were aiming to go to poland, but the let leg stay we left and we headed for lviv and lviv is the closest base in ukraine. initially, when we went on google maps to see how long it would take, it was like ten hours. the journey ended up taking 24 hours to finally get to lviv. on the way, like so many military checkpoints, armed with officers, civilians.

the journey was harrowing and very, very long. and stressful. and once we finally got to lviv, i missed a chunk of the story. throughout the entire process i was coordinating other students to leave, so i created group chats and which we could all communicate and i was trying to get information to other students, particularly african students on information and how they could leave, because once we knew everybody have to leave, because the war was happening, a lot -- nigerian passports, embolden passports, how will it be able to enter the border into poland when i don't have an eu passport? so once the information has been relieved -- released in realtime, i was guessing information and i was sharing it in the group chat, because one thing a lot of people don't realize is the

information we were getting in ukraine was very, very slow. a, secondly, the information was not accurate to us, because as a demographic of minorities, we were not being recognized as people in ukraine. the information was just for ukrainians. so i was really adamant to find information that was specific to african students in ukraine. so once poland had released their information, everybody is welcome to come to poland, no matter what your passport is, i was sharing that information, looking for embassy bought -- our fellow students were also fundraising on the roads to tel aviv. once i finally reached lviv with my group, we met some other gals who had other left -- they told us that on their way to lviv, they were harassed racially. they were physically pushed off

the chains. it was just so upsetting. that people would i actually experience racism trying to leave a war. in my mind, i'm thinking in a time of war people would be thinking we are all one. we are all in the situation together. it would not be segregation, but history has shown us time and time again, whenever there are times of turmoil, black people are always lost. when they were sharing their experiences with me i was just terrified. in the group chats, people had not reached the polish border. it were telling us they had returned from the polish border or they had experienced violence from local ukrainian people, or violence among the cues. from that, we were just like okay, you know went, i don't

think poland is a good idea. bought >> unfortunately, i have to interrupt you, because we are out of time. but i want to make sure people find your website. it's called black women for black lives dot org. this is the website. you guys should go on there and read more of korean skies story. i wish we had more time. korrine sky, thank you so much. we appreciate that you are safe. that was the readout. all in with chris hayes starts now. readout all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight, on all in. >> diplomacy requires both sides engaging in good faith, to de-escalate, and i do not see signs that putin is prepared to stop. >> a bleak assessment of russia 's willingness to investigate, as russian troops grown closer to kyiv. then, the split in the republican party, as the old guard tries to squash the pro putin fringe. >> they are outliers. the largest since