if it's friday, president biden speaks with china's president, xi jinping. the russian assault on ukraine, as they indiscriminately shell targets across the country. new attacks hitting an apartment complex, a theater, a kindergarten. plus my interview with the kyiv mayor. defending ukraine's capital against the siege and what he needs to hold the line, as well as prospect for peace with putin still in charge. and an update from an emergency coordinator grappling with the worsening humanitarian crisis in ukraine, amid efforts to rush medical supplies to active war zones. welcome to "mtp daily."

i am chuck todd here in washington. the white house today is stepping up its efforts to try to isolate russia a bit more. president biden speaking with his chinese counterpart, xi jinping a few hours ago as u.s. officials renew concerns the kremlin is laying ground work for a chemical weapons attack. russia is expanding the assault on civilian targets in ukraine, even as you hear claims of trying to have peace talks. richard engel and his crew shot this video showing some of the devastation in one part of kyiv as russian forces shelled an apartment complex. they hit a local supermarket and a kindergarten. ukrainian officials say the attack killed one person. spoke to the kyiv mayor a short time ago about his efforts to defend the capital city. i will bring you that effort in a few moments. needless to say, he was talking about what is becoming more and more indiscriminate in kyiv. russia's attacks are intensifying further west in

lviv, the city near the polish border, had been a gathering place for ukrainians fleeing other parts of the country. further southeast, 90% of mariupol is said to have been destroyed, includes a theater where more than a thousand were seeking shelter. what did russia do? they shelled it. at least 130 people rescued from the rubble, hundreds more remain unaccounted for. in moscow, vladimir putin praised his country's troops in a rally at a stadium, marking the eighth anniversary of the annexation of crimea. putin continued about the war he started was necessary to prevent genocide. the u.n. security council to discuss basic allegations about u.s. backed chemical weapons and biological labs in ukraine, to give some sort of legitimacy to russia doing it themselves. these are allegations that the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. dismissed once again today.

>> last week we heard from the russian representative a tirade of bizarre conspiracy theories. this week we're hearing a whole lot more where that came from, things that sound like they were forwarded to him on a chain email from some dark corner of the internet. ukraine does not have a biological weapons program. in fact, russia has long maintained one, a violation of the law. we believe it is possible russia may be planning to use chemical or biological agents against the ukrainian people. >> the ambassador using diplomatic language to basically call bs. let's say the mayor of kyiv has a couple other choice words when it comes to russian propaganda. at the white house, president biden spoke with the chinese president for nearly two hours this morning, clearly an effort

to deter beijing from providing aid to moscow during the war. we are awaiting white house readout of the call. the chinese readout is something else. chinese media reports xi told biden, quote, the ukraine crisis is something we don't want to see and that conflict and confrontation are not in anyone's interest. let's just say the words sounded quite good if you're from the west. for more, joined by heidi pris bell a. we are awaiting the white house readout. given the chinese readout, it seems as if the goal is to try to get china to take a half step from putin, rhetorically, they were attempting to do that. >> reporter: they were attempting to do that it sounded like from the statement. certainly, though, chuck, not

outright condemnation of what vladimir putin has done here. china remains the last remaining super power not to do that. however, this is in line with what we have seen in chinese state media as well, chuck, if you look at the trend line, with slightly less focus on russia's military might, according to observers, more on the importance of peace talks. we are awaiting the readout which may be happening any moment now, chuck. we are told before this that the white house wanted to use this as an opportunity to assess where president xi stands, but the message we know going in from the president is do not be vladimir putin's crutch, not when it comes to military assistance or economic assistance. while there has been intelligence suggesting that maybe the chinese were considering providing some military support, the chinese pushed back pretty hard on that and a lot of information we are getting centers on the economic potential impacts and also the impact china could have if they join in some of the more

punitive approaches that the west is trying to take towards vladimir putin. lots of questions going into the briefing, chuck, including even though we are getting this statement that is focused on peace and security, is there anything that the chinese leader is willing to do behind the scenes to push putin to bring it to an end, chuck. >> there is an assumption, heidi, whether we like it or not, xi could be useful here in communicating to putin, correct? >> reporter: absolutely. one of the few remaining leaders who putin still has a direct pipeline to, chuck, and also, just the economic leverage that china has over russia with all of the rest of the world, the west now cutting economic ties. if china were to join into punitive measures, that would even more bring russia to the place where president biden wants him brought, which is economically to their knees and to do everything that we can to put those levers of diplomacy on

them, avoiding any kind of direct armed conflict, which the chinese leader also mentioned there, that's in no one's interest we get to that point. >> the readout is a start. that's all you can hope for. looks like a step in the right direction. let's see if there's more to it than rhetoric. heidi, thank you. let me go to gabe in lviv. gabe, frankly, you're in lviv hoping it is a safer spot, seems less safe every day. what are you seeing? >> reporter: chuck, you mentioned that overnight attack not too far from the city center, several miles at this facility that repaired aircraft. and it is next to lviv's airport. certainly as you mention, lviv seems a safe haven for refugees that have been flocking to the area. you see on the screen this morning the city woke up to

heavy smoke in the distance, seen as escalation of the war by many in this town. several days ago, chuck, you may remember over the weekend you reported that there was another air attack not too far from lviv, miles from the polish border at a military training facility there what appeared to be a surgical strike by the russians on that facility. this one appears to be a targeted strike as well. earlier i spoke with the lviv mayor that said there were no casualties, one person was injured. the mayor said there was no purpose as he saw it for the strike, only total destruction which is what he thinks vladimir putin will continue to do. now, chuck, as you said, it was considered a safe haven. tens of thousands of refugees, up to 60,000 a day have been coming through lviv. the mayor says it is down to 10,000 a day because the stream of refugees, many of them are heading to other cities in western ukraine, enroute to european nations like poland.

increasing number of nations, slovakia, romania, and we are seeing heavy shelling as you mentioned in other places where richard engel is in kyiv, and mariupol and kharkiv on the eastern and southern parts of ukraine. so the question will be will these air strikes continue in and around lviv or every few nights we hear air raid sirens here, usually nothing comes of them. but the question will be will russian forces begin to creep further and further west as the war drags on, chuck. >> that's what we are bracing for, do they match the shelling with troop movements. gabe gutierrez in lviv. stay safe, my friend. thank you. joining me to go deeper on what china is thinking, bonnie glacier, director of the asia program at the marshall fund, one of the leading international think tanks here. let me start with the readout.

i don't want to get too overly excited about a readout, it is one readout from a country that is an autocrisy, may want us to overread the readout. but we haven't heard from the white house. the simple fact they're talking about peace, the simple fact they're saying we can't have this, what does that tell you what kind of message they're trying to send us? >> well, first let me say that the biden administration reached out to the chinese through our national security adviser when he met with his counterpart in rome a few days ago, asked for a phone call with xi jinping. it is important because the u.s. lacks confidence frankly that when it communicates our own messages to even senior leaders in china that they're not necessarily conveyed to the highest level. so we have to have our president talk to china's leader to ensure

he understands the gravity of the situation, that if china does help russia, its economy or military that it will face serious consequences. now, the chinese readout does not include those warnings but i am confident that that is what president biden himself communicated. >> the fact that xi agreed to the phone call was an initial signal, the fact that what you're saying is jake sullivan's meeting was a success. >> it was a success in getting the chinese to understand that the u.s./china relationship may be at a pivotal turning point, maybe at a cross roads. what china does going forward is going toffee norm us consequences, not only for its relationship with the united states but also frankly for the relationship with europe and potentially some countries in

asia as so many of the u.s. allies and partners in countries around the world, 141 in the u.n. general assembly, have condemned russia. so china needs to think twice before taking any actions that undermine the sanctions that the world is imposing. >> do you detect any distance between xi and other chinese leaders? is xi, for instance, more personally sympathetic, empathetic to putin and his world view, but people around him are going wait a minute, the long term is economic power, then worry about the military power. do you sense any of that or no? >> i believe there are always different views in china and i have certainly heard from experts, not high level experts, that they believe china has leaned perhaps too far toward

russia. some chinese are being cut off from advanced technology from the united states and west. we should not underestimate the importance of xi jinping's personal relationship with vladimir putin. they have met 38 times. have a similar world view. both want to make the world safer for autocrisies. the chinese have in the last half hour come out with a longer readout about the phone call with president biden. there are interesting parts of it. one piece where xi jinping calls for sustainable regional and international security architecture. what does that mean?

that means security architecture in which china plays a more important role, where china and russia's interests are more protected. i still hear xi jinping defending russia's interests as well as china's. >> interesting what you said about the fact you have been hearing from folks thinking maybe china got a little too close to russia, the carter center put out analysis from somebody that was written from a chinese base, shanghai think tank and it said basically what you just said but they blocked it from being read within china. what does that tell you. and let me ask another thing. the fact they showed war footage on chinese national television last night, how significant is that? >> well, regarding the article that you mention, i thought it was quite significant. we should also note it was online in chinese and attracted

a lot of commentary in china's we chat. but it was taken down after i think approximately a week, which is a very long time. chinese centers did leave it up quite awhile. so that suggests to me that yes, there's ongoing debate and discussion but that doesn't necessarily mean that that is influencing the decision making level, so that's always a question mark. i think regarding the video footage that you refer to, there seems to be more attention on chinese tv in the last few days to the war itself, to some of the human casualties, even some of what i have seen from chinese media is highlighting that ukraine's interests should also be protected. so the question is, is china beginning to rebalance its position? maybe they're going to try to highlight the fact that ukraine

should get some support from the international community and let's remember that china itself has now begun to give humanitarian aid to ukraine, but i would expect that even if they are trying to show support for ukraine, at the same time let's not lose sight of the fact they're not criticizing russia, they haven't called this an invasion, they have said russia's legitimate security interests should be protected and they have said that the five waves of nato expansionism are to blame for this war. this is a position i don't think that we will see xi jinping modify because he values the relationship with russia. >> bonnie, you are giving new definition how we read tea leaves. getting the fine print in there for us as well. really helpful. a thank you for sharing your expertise. >> thanks for having me. up next, my exclusive one on

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welcome back. ukrainian forces and everyday citizens have now been defending kyiv more than three weeks and doing quite well, despite russian attacks, including civilian targets and they're continuing to intensify. this is video from earlier this morning, former heavy weight champion and mayor of kyiv was touring damage from a russian shelling attack in a residential area. the mayor says the attack killed at least one, injured multiple others. the city keeps going. spoke to the mayor earlier today, started by asking about

the devastation he was seeing firsthand and the current situation on the ground in his city. take a listen. >> every morning we've tack, every morning. shelling the apartment building around kyiv. many hundreds of people injured. it is the target, we are upset, the targets of civilian apartments. civilian people died. it is every day, every night we listen with the alarm and

everybody has to go to the bunker. thousands of people living in bunkers all the weeks long. >> how are you able to keep the services going? you have been able to keep the city as functioning as possible under the circumstances. how have you done it? >> responsible for millions in kyiv. we have electricity, water, heating, gas and services, couple of days ago, we have huge explosion and we fix the problem in a couple of hours, but risk is huge and it will be big infrastructure problems because it is very bad.

>> you've seen the reports of other mayors being kidnapped in other cities, you've seen what they're doing to mariupol, trying to essentially starve the city of resources. have you thought about -- how concerned are you that you're a target, you personally are a target of russian forces for kidnapping purposes, propaganda or worse, and how much protection do you have? >> actually nobody have the safety in the city. nobody have safety in our country. every citizen of our country is target. especially self government. the russians kidnap the mayor of other cities. couple of days ago, they bring the medical stuff and food to the citizens was killed from russia. yes, of course, the russians

want to destroy the infrastructure and bring chaos to the cities. i don't care about me, i care the citizens give me rights to defend people in my hometown. it is priority for me. not, i don't think about me by myself but i am more care about the citizens who have need for medical care. food right now, if something doesn't work in kyiv, it will be humanitarian catastrophe. >> what more do you want from the united states and nato? >> stop economic relationship with russia because every dollar, every euro what russia's

economy became, they invest not in economy, not to the people, they invest this money to the army. and we have horrible results in different countries, and we have horrible pictures from our country, from ukraine. stop the economic relationship with russia is important. never support the war in ukraine. it is very important. very important to understand and right now, sanctions work very well. we need, ukraine needs support, economic support, political support, financial support. we need more than weapons because we have to defend our country from one of the strongest army in the world. and our soldier is heroes, heroes who have will and spirit

to defend our children, families and future of our country. >> you've described ukrainians and russians, your brothers, brother nations. can you imagine being able to make peace with putin still in charge of russia on that other side of that border? >> russians use media as propaganda. they say bad things about ukraine. they're fascist and it is liar, it is liar because, for example, myself, i am mayor of capital of ukraine. i have nothing against russian nationality.

in my body, half my blood is russian because my mom is russian. we have, for example, our president, he has jewish background. >> right. >> it is not the nationality, it is about the wars, about their aggressive politics of russia regarding ukraine. right now, population in russia, some from propaganda display liar, everything, i'm sorry, bullshit about ukraine and liar from morning to evening and they're not true information give to anyone. we try to give, very important, the media is much more important than the weapons and good example, russian tv channel russia today have budget much

more than of capital of ukraine, more than 2 billion u.s. dollars. >> you make an excellent point about how much they use propaganda. let me close with this. can this war end with putin still in charge of russia? >> difficult question. i am not ready to give you clear answer. right now all experts are on the walls trying to find exit from this situation, this stubborn war, this war from one person, one person who sits in moscow and from him aggressive politics. that's why our unity of democratic countries, the war, everybody has to put so much energy to do it to stop the war.

i don't know. so many experts talk about some compromise. i don't know which one we have to find to stop the russians. we have just one way today, just defend our families, our country. and for government of united states, humanitarian help, very appreciate financial support, very appreciate for weapons delivering because we stay in front of one of the strongest army in the world and our soldiers show great performance because they have spirit, a will. we defend our homes. >> mayor, you're defending our values, too. so thank you for the fight. i hope we have your back. thank you, mr. mayor. >> stay together because ukraine needs your help. >> former heavy weight champ and

mayor of kyiv. up next, massive humanitarian response effort under way, and medical officials race to help thousands of ukrainians victimized by the senseless russian assault. you're watching "mtp daily." ass. you're watching "mtp daily."

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internet cut out. doctors without borders emergency coordinator, alex, start with the basics. a situation like mariupol where you may have the physical people there to treat victims but how dire is the supply situation in order to save lives. >> unfortunately what i have to say is we don't know for sure because we haven't been able to communicate with hospitals for what's coming on two weeks, maybe more. we were communicating with hospitals, communicating with several hospitals in mariupol and the outskirts. we supplied a couple of them with emergency medical supplies, which are focused on giving the hospital everything to receive wounded, stabilize and for trauma surgeries. the last communication we had with hospitals was that they were receiving more and more wounded and were worried about their supply and then we lost communications, and we haven't

been able to get in and out. as far as we know, no one has gotten in and out in terms of supply for a couple weeks now. we are quite worried, quite certain the situation will be catastrophic, but unable to confirm that. >> that sounds obviously about as awful a picture as you can paint, and the fact of the unknown here. what about in other parts of the country? how many situations as dire as mariupol? >> you know, it is hard to compare but certainly in terms of complete lack of access, mariupol is one of the worst situations for us. there are numerous other cities we are very worried about the humanitarian situation developing. other cities we have seen shelling in residential areas and innocent civilians that are becoming the victims of the fight which we don't want to see. we heard more reports of other hospitals being hit and so these are structures that are supposed to be protected by the humanitarian law, and we really

want to see more efforts made on all sides that these remain protected structures and that civilian noncombatant population are also protected. >> are you having to build mash units essentially now in some of the places because of the decision to target the hospitals? >> mash units? >> are you having to build your own rudimentary structures because hospitals themselves are being targeted? >> i understand what you mean. these are conversations we are currently having now in cities that are currently under siege, things happen so quickly that we didn't have access, didn't necessarily bring in the supply necessarily to have bunkers fortified with medical supplies. one of the main things we're doing now is speaking in cities where we have access, areas to bring in personnel and our own supply, we are engaging local

health systems in conversations, look at what's happening elsewhere and how can we be as prepared as possible if we hope not conflict comes to the area, including turning bunkers, we have resources necessary to turn a bunker into a maternity or surgical ward, we can do many things, as long as we have time to get it in place before it arrives. >> in russia uses a chemical attack, do you have the supplies to treat, how much of this do you need, is this something you are thinking about? >> look, we expect that no actor will use chemical weapons, all parties are signatory to the convention that makes them illegal, we are operating under the more than assumption but the conviction that parties will respect the conventions. that being said, there are other issues as well.

there's numerous chemical plants throughout ukraine that could be hit and cause environmental catastrophe, similar impact as chemical weapons. water factories with chlorine. if chlorine catches fire, imagine the fallout. so we have contingencies to protect first of all ourselves if this happens to make sure we can remain alive and breathing and operational as well as looking at contingency what can we do for the population if exposed to these chemicals. >> what's the supply you need most and don't have? >> it is everything. we are bringing stock in, working with local suppliers, but a lot of supplies locally are almost exhausted. we are bringing in trucks internationally. things are coming in, took awhile to get everything coming

in, flow of supply is coming in now. what we are focused on and worried about, everything the hospital needs for second degree, tertiary levels of care, life-saving situations with people that are wounded. >> somebody wants to help now, how do they do it, very quick. >> keep paying attention, keep pressure that wars have rules and that humanitarian law should be respected. and i guess give to those trying to help the populations that are suffering from the conflict. >> well, i'll say it, doctors without borders, you're on the frontlines, nobody told you how to be there. alex wade, thank you for doing this and telling us what's going on. up next, the latest on the pandemic. the white house announces a new response coordinator. you're watching "mtp daily." cor you're watching "mtp daily."

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welcome back. the war in ukraine overshadowed a lot of the president's agenda. next week it looks likely to eclipse the confirmation hearings for the supreme court nominee, ketanji brown jackson. joining me, lynn cooper, and former rnc chair, michael steele. msnbc political analysts. i wanted to start on a topic not in the preview, more of your beat, the iran deal. is that really going to happen in this moment?

i mean, seriously? >> this is so typical, right, whenever our attention is drawn away from something, you all of a sudden -- i had not been paying attention to what was going on with iran nuclear negotiations, things were looking so bad. i remember a couple weeks ago we started to see percolations coming up, but at the moment things seem to be going forward. rock mali is in talks with them. we'll see where we get. >> adrian, the iran deal, there's complicated democratic politics with that deal. there's a lot of particularly northeastern democrats who probably were fine if this went away. now it is awkward timing and certainly politically going to be weird to be working with the russians. >> yeah. the timing is strange.

certainly not advantageous to senate democrats and the administration. >> the administration is pushing this though. >> right. but still not something they even want to be heavily engaged in, you would assume. no. i mean, look, this is at least something that's not driving the headlines now, right, because of the situation with russia, because of course on the domestic front we have a supreme court justice to nominate or to be confirmed soon, but it is something that democrats, especially those who as you noted are on the northeast corridor have to contend with. >> good time to get something done on iran while other things are going on. >> i was going to say, strategically, you do it, there will be less -- fall back comes no matter what. if you believe it is important to do. >> but you do it in a clean environment without a lot of interference and noise around. >> i would argue that going ahead with this now makes a lot of sense because the last time

we had a chance for going all out with an iran deal, remember, years ago, after we invaded iraq and iran wanted a deal then and we said no, we're too busy this, not going to deal with it, they learned the lesson. >> don't with that. >> it's trying to accomplish a few things at the same time. and venezuela seemed to have blow up their face a little bit. and let's talk about the confirmation hearing. it seems -- even mitch mcconnell said, she's going to get confirmed. what is the goal -- let me ask you this, what is the goal of the democrats in the confirmation hearings, to protect her from attacks or do you not expect anything that serious? >> we know there are going to be republicans that attack their record in what they think issing be soft on crime. she represented prisoners at gitmo and they will talk about

that. for us as democrats, we want to talk about her qualifications and experience and what you are not going to see coming from republicans is attack her credentials for being on the court. we are prepared and i am working with outside groups right now getting ready for next week. we are prepared to respond accordingly to the attacks, and we want her own words that she says in the hearing, that her own words are lifted up and we focus on her qualifications and experience and she's exceptionally qualified to be on the court. >> if the republicans could attack on inflation they korbgs could, they want to keep an issue alive they think might help, and trying to do a crime it, is that -- >> well -- >> it keeps it in the news? >> it keeps it in the news and it's driving down to the base.

there's a lot of money being raised -- >> well, only appears to be -- >> yes, josh holly, this is all about the money and how they can leverage that. they know that even you don't have sinema or manchin confirming their support, and mcconnell knows that and he says what he says, this is a done deal. the question for the republicans is how do we create a place holder in terms of other narratives we are pushing, whether it's on crime issues or inflation, if we can attack her -- >> i am being -- >> i say this because

confirmation hearings is going to start and the president is going to be in brussels and nato. i think judge jackson is not going to get the same national lift that our five supreme court confirmation hearings have done for the previous one. >> i don't think she has at all. a few days ago we were planning for next week, and they said can you help with the live briefing on the supreme court nominations, and i remember thinking -- that's because my head was in ukraine. >> yeah, that's okay. >> the nato meeting is going to be huge. this is the most consequential issue that has -- nato has faced since its inception. this is it. this is what does the alliance stand for? what is the alliance there for? they initially managed to be

great on the unity at the beginning of the ukraine invasion, but they have started to get a little rocky with the mig-29 debate, and it will be interesting how president biden holds the alliance together, and especially with the kind of video coming out of the mariupol theater. you also have the japanese reporting that four amphibious russian ships left the pacific where they have been doing exercises and are headed for the black sea, and we know this could be a lot worse than -- >> and folks seem to think the odesa is more protected from the sea. >> i want to put up a quote, because this seems to be the chief tension sometimes in the democratic party. i am surprised how short their

memory is. stephanie murphy, a moderate that held a swing district in florida is now retiring, and she ran for the senate for a minute and then decided -- fair critique or sour grapes? >> i worked when the democrats took back the house and the reason we won is we recruited moderate democrats in swing districts and red districts and we flipped the seats because the members -- the members at that time who won reflected their district. stephanie comes from a moderate district. we cannot chase those moderates out of the party. there has to be a voice for them and there has to be a way to include them more in the conversation. >> delete your twitter app is what i would tell most people. >> me, too.

michael steele, mo brooks, donald trump wants to pull his endorsement as a senate candidate because he has not been loyal enough. mo brooks said he wants me to do something against the law. i was there for him on january 6th, but i cannot replace joe biden as president and he seems to not understand that. what does it tell you about loyalty and trump? >> it's fickle as hell. i don't know why people go into a relationship with donald trump thinking it's a two-way street. they are still desperate for his endorsement. they have to cow bow like kevin mccarthy and go and kiss the ring. you see the same thing with desantis in florida who is now finding himself on the outside. >> yeah.

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good to be with you. i am katy tur. it's day 23 with russia's war with ukraine. it felt like a safe zone and that calm was shaken when several missiles fell near lviv. it appears it was a plan the where