good to be with you. i am katy tur. it's day 23 with russia's war with ukraine. it felt like a safe zone and that calm was shaken when several missiles fell near lviv. it appears it was a plan the where soviet aircraft are

maintained. ukrainians are trying to escape and there's word that 130 people have been rescued from the rubble of from a theater turned shelter that russia bombed. 1,300 more children, many children, including many children are still trapped inside the basement. in a moment, what one resident tells us about escaping mariupol. first, this next video is distressing. in the east, russian snipers shot and killed civilians in a bread line and one person in that line was an american. 68-year-old jim hill was there at a hospital with his partner who has multiple sclerosis. in kyiv, more explosions in what feels like a pattern. four consecutive days of shelling, striking apartment buildings at dawn while people

are still inside a sleep. the latest hit a school killing at least one person and injuring 19, including children. nbc's chief correspondent, richard engel, was there shortly after the attack. >> reporter: bombing an apartment complex, killing one person and wounding more than a dozen. if you look at the scale of the attack, the bomb landed right in th middle of this complex damaging all the apartments around, and also a school and supermarket and kindergarten. the death toll could have been far worse. this is happening every day now, not just in kyiv but in kharkiv, in mariupol where civilians are being attacked without any military targets in the area. since it continues to happen, why is russia doing this? there must be a reason.

every day it's hitting civilian targets and only, it seems, civilian targets. first of all, it's a terror campaign. it terrorizes the people and makes them feel unsettled in their own homes, because just being in your home can cost you your life, and this happened around 8:00 in the morning when people were just waking up and having breakfast and then suddenly their lives changed forever. and it's a way to pressure the ukrainian government by putting pressure on the civilian population, just as peace talks between russia and ukraine are intensifying. turkey, which is emerging as a major mediator between russia and ukraine is starting to reveal some of putin's demands. first of all, that ukraine never be part of nato, and ukraine's president zelenskyy has already more or less accepted that in principle. russia is also demanding this country accept a denazification

campaign, and putin said this country is controlled by a nazi regime, which, of course, it isn't, and that would be a more bitter pill for zelenskyy to swallow considering he's jewish and had family members killed in the holocaust. and the second is about land, and according to mediators, russia wants ukrainian territory, unspecified territory in the east. it seems it will continue to bomb civilians and put pressure on ukraine until it gets it. >> meanwhile, russian president vladimir putin was celebrating in moscow. tens of thousands of people packed into a world cup stadium to cheer on the 8th anniversary of the annexation of crimea. onstage he said we know what we

need to do, how to do it and at what costs and we will absolutely accomplish all of our plans. the costs so far has been entire cities flattened by air assaults, and thousands of innocent people killed in the

on playing. the streets are littered with dead bodies. she didn't want to leave mariupol at all, but she decided it was i left. it's unknown for me how it looks now because every minute things change there because when the bombs falling down on the city, everything ruins in a moment when i left i can tell about the district where i was located

because to go somewhere it was dangerous, and i did not go to my house for three days which was situated three blocks from my family's home. we went around our house together to get water and to find out news on the street. >> katy, she told me they were so happy it had rained there in the middle of winter because they were able to gather water, filter it, boil it and then they had drinking water and water for tee, porridge and soup. >> incredibly unbelievable. what about lviv? it has been struck now, or the airport near lviv, and has that rattled the people inside that cipeople, katy,

because at about ten past 6:00 this morning, the air-raid sirens went off. as usual people filtered down into the shelters and 15 minutes after that there were four loud explosions and we heard, you know, a little later that russian missiles had hit an aircraft maintenance facility on the west side just outside lviv. they are obviously using a much wider campaign now. they are coming far out west, and they are hitting facilities they think the ukrainians have these aging fleet of fighter jets and they are hitting depo storages. four ukrainian soldiers were killed there. people here are nervous. the center of lviv is not dangerous, no bombs have fallen here. people are anticipating that it may come as the russians move the war further west, and target

facilities they think could be dangerous for them. they don't want ukrainian soldiers being trained. they don't want those aging jets being used against them. people here are slightly nervous. it's a relatively safe place. people do go about their daily lives and they are thinking at the back of their mind is this place going to be hit by the russians eventually. >> with so many people fleeing to lviv, that has to be a big worry and where do you go next and do you cross into another country. what is the damage in terms of russian troops and how many casualties they have sustained and what morale is like. >> there are a number of assessments, and we have to point out they are often very vague and broad. u.s. officials are very confident at this point the number of russian troops who have been casualties on the battlefield in ukraine are in

the thousands. they have a lot of troops, somewhere in the neighborhood of 170 to 200,000 total troops there, but they have taken significant losses. in addition to that, they have taken significant losses to their equipment. vehicles, aircraft and some of their weapon systems have taken -- they have lost many of those on the battlefield. ukraine is mounting a tough defense. because of that ukrainian resistance and because of other issues, there have been some indications, anecdotal mostly, but indications nonetheless that some of the russian military are facing morale issues, and some cases they are just not getting enough communication from their leadership, and then the logistical hurdles we have been talking about for several weeks. there are some anecdotal indications that the u.s. has that has caused problems in morale. that being said, the russian military picture is still pretty stalled all around the country. around kyiv, they have not made

many advances, but they do continue to make incremental advances. specifically around kyiv right now, some of their rear elements have been moving forward and they may be bringing some artillery units forward with them. that's concerning because we have heard about what we are seeing, video, pictures of civilians, civilian targets in kyiv. when you are talking about artillery, there's an inprecise weapon, we may see more civilians being hit in the coming days. the pictures of the video is devastating to see what is happening there. in the east, the picture is over all about the same, no major movement. but in the south, the russians do continue to make slow but steady progress. the belief is they are still continuing to try and take mariupol where they are just absolutely pounding the civilians there and the infrastructure and the u.s. assessment is they are most likely to turn to the port city

of odesa that is further west. you can see it there on the map in the northern black sea, katy. >> thank you very much. joining me is editor of the key, and barry mccaffery, who has two distinguished service crosses and two silver stars for valor. >> alexi, what are you hearing about russian troops? >> well right now the biggest question is what happened to mariupol? everybody is talking about the mariupol theater destroyed by the russians. we know over 1,000 people are

still trapped and we don't know if they are alive. we hope they are. firefighters couldn't get to the scene because of constant russian shelling. we know russia continues to shell cities like kharkiv and the general assumption is nowhere in ukraine is safe from russian air strikes. >> so where do people go if nowhere is safe? >> well, that's the biggest issue now because men from 18 to 60 can't get out of the country, so there's nowhere to go for those men that are trying to flee the war, who are trying to take their family somewhere safe, and that's the biggest goal -- that's the achievement that russia is trying to show

the world that ukraine is totally under russian control, that ukraine has to agree to some kind of peace deal. that's the biggest fear among ukrainian people there, is ukrainian leadership will be forced to have a russian peace deal. >> we just had courtney kube on, and she said russian losses in terms of troops are in the thousands, and yesterday "the new york times" was reporting it was 7,000 and there are many more injured and that an official was telling them that if 10% of russia's force is either not on the battlefield any longer or taken off because of injury, it could mean it's nearly impossible to operate. what is your assessment as somebody who knows much more than any of us about what you are seeing? >> well, normally the figure we use, by the way, is 30%. that came from the studies in

world war ii. 10% of the overall force, if it's 7,000 russians killed in action, that could imply another 20 to 30,000 wounded in action, and then at company or battalion level, the losses may be severe along with the equipment. they have been nailing helicopters and russian fighter bombers, and so i think the russians are not just stalled but they have been damaged. they have top-down leadership structures. that doesn't work in a decentralized battle. they are also an artillery army, and rockets and 152 artillery. smart munitions. the russians are in a terrible mess. the ukrainian civilians are dying or being injured by the

thousands, and 1 out of 4 is a displaced or refugee person, and millions more are under artillery fire. and then you have vladimir putin with his manufactured patriotic rally and the fans were singing a song that said ukraine and crimea are all our country. this war is not even remotely over. >> if you were in charge right now of ukrainian forces, how would you be looking at things? what would you be telling your forces to do right now? what would you be nervous about next? >> well, look, president zelenskyy, the civilian leadership and the military leadership are utterly magnificent, and if they hired me as an adviser i would be asked to be accompanying them under commander control.

they used tactics, and they are david fighting goliath. the worry is putin will never back off this and resort to using russian artillery against the big cities in the north as he has done in mariupol, which would knock down the city and horrify the global community, and at that point are the europeans in particular going to tolerate a war of extension. that's his next step. and poor mr. zelenskyy, would he say we have to move the government out of the country and move it to the west and declare the place an open city. so far they have shown no signs -- the ukrainians, of backing down. >> alexi, that resolve, is it being tested with the shelling we are seeing? a large percentage of mariupol

has been destroyed? >> yes, we know mariupol right now is completely destroyed. 90% of the buildings are absolutely impossible to rebuild. that's what russia is trying to achieve. as you correctly pointed out, they are stalled. they can't take major ukrainian cities like kyiv and kharkiv and they will try and turn kyiv and kharkiv and other ukraine cities into mariupol. they will try to shell them and horrify the population and force ukrainian leadership to comply with russian terms. >> that's certainly the concern. gentlemen, thank you very much for joining me today. still ahead, critical call. what did the president of china say to president biden today about russia's invasion of ukraine? a strategic port. what ukrainians in odesa are

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it appears the messaging on china on russia's war is changing. state tv is talking less about

russian strength and more about ukrainian suffering, but does that mean china's president xi jinping will be distancing from vladimir putin. antony blinken said president biden was going to make it clear to china that supporting russia's war against ukraine would have a cost, and he was just asked about that call but did not respond to any questions. >> the call lasted nearly two hours in a statement that the chinese side put out immediately after, well ahead of the u.s. it used fairly standard language saying conflict and confrontation are not in anyone's interests, and then there didn't seem to be any fundamental shift in china's stance. china has yet to condemn the

russian invasion. it won't call it an invasion and it's not going to openly oppose it. china and russia have deep ties that have been nurtured by xi and putin. president biden was never going to be able to change xi jinping's strategic direction, but he could have looked at the closeness of the relationship. china wants to be seen as neutral party offering humanitarian support to ukraine, and perhaps the way forward needs to be the u.s. and nato engaging in talks with russia to understand russia's security concerns. the upside for the white house is they were able to telegraph to russia that the u.s. also has china's ear, and here in beijing

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to gain control of the black sea russia needs to take the port city of odesa. a half a dozen of battleships are looming off the coast of the city. so far there are no eminent signs of an assault. odesa has not been bombed in more than 24 hours and while the pause created a sense of security for some, not everyone is optimistic. >> these hazy outlines on the horizon are believed to be russian battle ships and they are stocking the coast of

ukraine. if vladimir putin's opening gambit is to take the capital of kyiv, then his end game is to cut off the south of the country, and odesa is strategic to that. many people getting on with their lives today until the air-raid sirens sound. so from one minute can look perfectly normal, kids playing on the square and then the air-raid sirens and then the best thing and the only thing a lot of people can do is come underground to get to whatever shelter they can. most people we saw seemed to ignore it, but a husband, wife and his two children know better than to ignore this siren.

they fled their home days ago. >> i was afraid for the lives of my family so we moved to odesa. when the situation calms down, we will move back. >> i didn't want to leave our home. we just bought a flat and furnished it but when a bomb shatters the windows, you think the most precious thing is life. >> this is just one family trying to keep each other safe. unicef say millions of children will be caught up in the war. but for some families this is not their first experience of conflict. hanna fled the fight in the east in 2014. she now lives in the derelict building. >> we covered the windows to protect us from the glass. >> reporter: it's basic, but it's home. and there are moments here when

things almost feel normal, even in these desperate times. hanna shows me where they all sleep now. a small square cupboard built from brick. >> if the shelling is heavy we have a basement and we will go there quickly. >> reporter: i asked why she didn't leave, and she said she's tired of running from war. >> this is my home. >> reporter: the reality, though, is that the children are living in very dangerous times and the world is praying they will come through it. nick martin, sky news, odesa. >> a women's fighting group is coordinating with the ukrainian military, and she served as deputy head of president zelenskyy's office, and the

former head of ukraine's armed forces. anna, it's always good to see you. the last time we spoke to you was 11 days ago. what has changed? >> [ inaudible ]. >> i think we're having audio issues. anna, can you hear me? >> yes. >> sorry. i couldn't hear you. i apologize. i know you are not in odesa, but what can you tell me about the expectation of what is to come? >> [ inaudible ] we do our best and it seems -- it seems all members are in different regions. we have the opportunity to

collect and transmit one moment and then an accumulation of the enemy's equipment, and so to the media, we ask to collect documents for war crimes and explain how to do this in a safe and correct way, and transfer it to the prosecutor general office. this means that we expect that we should still fight and we hope that we will win. we are establishing horizontal in direction with other motivations, and there's humanitarian aid, and there's information with the russians, some of the group is working in that area.

they ask about advice of how we can help and [ inaudible ] ukraine has united. we need support from our western partners. we are on the fight, on the wire, and we still need weapons. the ukraine government asked for help with the weapons and we understand the western partners for which we are grateful, but we need equipment for air defense and et cetera. when you find daily defense and [ inaudible ] and it's about 350 armed forces and other nations of the security, they do not

have weapons all the time. they probably need cars, jeeps or pickups for armed forces supported for volunteers' needs, and the refugees, we need generators. the enemy destroyed critical infrastructure trying to de-energize the areas it enters. we need medical needs for hospitals and we need support. >> the u.s. is sending a lot of support. is it getting to you fast enough? i know you are talking about needing more and the pickup trucks and et cetera, and the munitions coming in, is it getting to where it needs to go? >> yes, we have enough, and we

expect more ammunitions of what you just mentioned but we need all the time more because we are in the hard crosses. there's just a lot of people now to defend our country, and they need good protection, and to have good medical support. >> i am so sorry. the delays is tripping me up. it looks like you are on the move there. we appreciate your time. still ahead, who moderna still ahead, who moderna says will

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here are the other top stories we are following this afternoon. a russian court extended the detention of wnba star brittney griner on drug charges. she was arrested last month and will not be released until mid may. the u.s. state department says they have not been able to get in touch with her and have been continually denied access to her, and a close contact with her says she's doing okay. and then moderna is seeking a booster for everybody 18 and older, and pfizer applied for a similar approval this week but only asked for those 18 and over. and it was the 13-year-old child driving the pickup truck involved in the deadly crash in texas this week. it killed nine people. the boy along with an adult were

killed in the pickup, and six athletes and the coach were killed in the van. the truck was driving on a spare tire that blew out right before the collision. in 2021, 20,000 people were killed by somebody with a gun. that's the highest number of gun deaths in decades. congress has tried and failed to further regulate firearms making background checks universal and closing the gun show loophole among other things. there is now a gun on the market that even those steps would not touch, a gun that anybody at any age with any background can get no questions asked. nbc's vaughn hillyard has more. >> this is a ghost gun. there's no record of it. it took no background check and we have no idea how many like it are on our streets today. because it's built from a perfectly legal prepackaged kit

and then made into a working firearm in the amount of time it takes to build an ikea cabinet, just over an hour. >> it was a black market ghost gun sale that went bad and turned deadly. >> the weapon may have been a ghost gun -- >> the firearm in evidence is described as the 80%, a ghost gun. >> last year the lapd recovering double the amount of ghost guns compared to the year before. in philadelphia the police department recovered 571 constructed ghost guns. more than five times the number in 2019. but just how easy is it to order the parts for these guns. this is our producer who lives here in pennsylvania. there are a litany of options where you can purchase these kits. >> but with the tools, you want to make sure you have everything. >> it tells you the exact parts

you need to buy. >> thank you for your purchase. >> jason was able to place this order because he lives in one of the 40 states that has not regulated the selling of these kits. that's also why we were able to walk into a gun show outside of philadelphia. we went in with a hidden camera to show how easy it is to buy a kit. >> you don't need anything from me, right? >> money. >> money? but nothing for a background check? >> no. >> we will need the drill? >> it comes from the drill bits. there's tons and tons of videos online. >> how long does it usually take to make it? >> first one, an hour and a half. >> to buy other firearms at this show they required background checks, but to get this kit it just took that cash. >> have you seen the demand for your supply going up?

>> yeah, the entire industry has gone up. >> we tracked down the major ghost gun supplier for pennsylvania? >> don't you bear some of the responsibility when these guns get to the criminals? >> no, because i am not a criminal. >> yeah, you can get keys and a pack of budweiser and drunk drive and kill somebody, too. >> when met with pushback by monroe and others, he told the guns to monroe that went back to selling them. >> you are following the law? >> yeah, 100%. >> yeah, it's like buying a lawn chair at walmart. you can bring a lawn chair in cash. >> the guns don't have serial numbers, and many of them across the country from shows and online sales are bought by

former convicts who are, by law, barred from owning the weapons. there were 586 such conflicts arrested with ghost guns in los angeles just last year. >> this is the beginning of a ghost gun. >> this reality has led many to call for a change in the law. pennsylvania attorney has tried to classify the ghost gun kits as firearms, and that would force people to pass a background check to get them. >> do you even begin to know how many are out on the streets? >> it's impossible to know at this time. >> there's no sign of legislation passing on capitol hill, and the biden administration is trying. >> we turned to pennsylvania and met up with the special agents from the ag's office.

>> how-to, still all over the internet. >> we won't show you all the steps, but for the agents it just took drilling, sanding down and a little bit of hammering. a firearm. just over one hour later, ready to go. >> joining me now is nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard. vaughn, you go online to get one of these or a gun show to get one of these, anybody asking you questions? how old are you? what do you want it for? >> they don't want to know if you are underage. they don't want to know if you are a felon, because then suddenly they are complicit if a crime were to take place. >> do they feel like they need to be regulated? do they want to be regulated? do they want that responsibility on somebody else or just want the money? >> it's a pure cash transfer. as long as you hand over that

cash, you get it. you put your information online in terms of what your address is, they will send it right to you. that's why we are seeing these cases this week, in florida a 14-year-old we now know built a ghost gun and his friend accidentally shot and killed him. philadelphia, we are talking about five-fold increase of ghost guns recovered on the streets in the last two years. >> you can't get a hold of the numbers of guns out there if you have no idea what is being sold. >> thank you. up next, become a refugee or stay behind and fight, and what happens after that? we talk to ukraine's next generation. mm. [ clicks tongue ] i don't know. i think they look good, man. mm, smooth.

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the u.n. estimate that's six million americans are misplace in ukraine. joining me now from lviv is our reporter with what young professionals, the next generation in ukraine does after all of this.

>> you're right, it was or did seem like until this morning a safe haven. but the strikes by russians against that air repair mechanical facility was only about four miles from where i'm talking to you right now. and they are fortifying infrastructure here in lviv. late last night i went to talk to a group of seven young ukrainians who fled here from kyiv when they started to strike that city. this is what they told me. last night as curfew approached, i went an apartment to talk to americans that fled from kyiv as the first rockets hit. today living in an alternate universe. the mirror in the hallway to an apartment something they share was first clue. >> whether the bomb was near us, it protects the mirror from

shattering. yes. >> i'm jacob. hi. jacob. this is iyor, the 27-year-old consultant was up late when russia attacked. >> i was scared. i was shaking, literally. the first five minutes i was shocked. >> three weeks ago the 27-year-olds didn't believe a war was possible. now they're here. >> so i was a lawyer. >> you're talking in the past tense. you said i was. >> yeah, i'm not anymore. i don't have a job today. >> even pastimes are thang of the past. her passion was music. >> before the war, i was a deejay and since the 21st, i can't listen to the music at all. >> but that's what you love. that was your job. >> yeah. but also you have to hear the alarm. >> the alarm meaning the air raid siren. editor, 27, and marketing manager 29 shared videos with us of their life in kyiv before the war. now his future could be taking

up arms. >> if if i have to fight, i will fight, gladly. it's not a thing that i would run from. >> sometimes i feel like it's a dream. the most horrible dream in my life. and tomorrow i will wake up and everything will be normal. >> a group of friends not thinking about each other but their country. you didn't have to do this. i'm some guy from l.a. that showed up into your life and here you all talking to me in the middle of a war. why did you want to speak out? >> the thing that we use every instrument to do this and to share information all over the world. >> if i can say one thing to everybody that is watching this, don't forget about what is happening in ukraine. >> katie, so nastia, the young woman there, told me when the

air raid sirens struck, they did what they explained to me under that mirror taped up in case of an impact from a rocket. they lay on the floor, the green mat in the cloz and the waited for all clear sign. this sfufrt time they had actually heard an attack in real time. and then dimitro, the young man said that he might go fight and enlist, turns out he's going back to kyiv and going back tomorrow to start that process. >> i keep thinking about conversations i was having with matt bradley a month ago now, less than a month ago now and they were in kyiv talking about how nobody believed the invasion was going to happen. nobody really believed that russia was going to come in. it seemed like it was all hype from the west. their lives were normal. there was an image of little kids ice skating. everything seemed as normal as it could be. and now not even a month later it is completely torn apart. and those people that you -- the young people that you just spoke with saying i was a lawyer. not a lawyer anymore because no

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