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now launched a second hypersonic missile strike in ukraine. details on a new weapon, and whether it marks a burning escalation. meanwhile, president biden is set to travel overseas this week, in a show of solidarity for ukraine. what we can expect f of the high stakes trip. plus, belarus's president is now defending putin's mental state, insisting he is completely sane, and in better shape than ever. real talk with four kgb agents about those comments, and what's really could be going on behind the scenes. and, paying tribute. a moving video appears to show hundreds of ukrainians kneeling on the side of a road to honor a soldier who was brought home for burial. good morning and thanks for being with us. it is sunday march 20th, i've anita meyer life remark phyllis under new york city. breaking this morning, ukrainian authorities say the russian military has attracted in their civilian targets in
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mariupol. this time, a school world about 400 people had taken refuge. also breaking this morning, russia says it has launched a second hypersonic missile strike. on wednesday, a theater housing children was also bob by russian forces. lewinsky condemned the constant bombing of the city, calling it a terror that will go down the history. this comes as the uk defense ministry says russian forces are continuing to encircle several circles in eastern ukraine, with russia using long-range missiles to devastating effect. the russian defense ministry is releasing this video of one of his alleged airstrikes after claiming it used hypersonic missiles for the first time in ukraine. those weapons have been at the center of an arms race between u.s., russia, and china for years. all of this comes as president biden has to brussels this week to speak with nato allies after bolstering support for ukraine. for more on all of this, we turn into nbc news correspondent gabe heroes and
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josh lederman in brussels. gave it want to start with you. we are now into this fourth week. we are seeing elected and how brutal these attacks are. where are we right now in ukraine, and to tell us more about this hypersonic missile. >> hi vinita, good morning. this is seen as an escalation of the conflict by russia, as you mention. just yesterday the ministry of defense admitted for the first time the use of those hypersonic missiles and combat. you saw that video of what russia says is one of those missiles hitting a target in western ukraine, underground ammunition depot in the western part of the country. just this morning, we are hearing again from the russian ministry of defense, saying it connected more strikes. at least one second strike using those hypersonic missiles. vinita, as you mentioned, those missiles of at the center of an arms race with russia in the u.s. for several years. basically what makes this so concerning is that these types of missiles basically of a all
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missile air defense systems. they are extremely difficult to shoot down, they travel up to speeds of up to ten times the speed of sound, and also they have a range of more than 1200 miles. all very concerning. but i want to point your attention, a need, it to another thing you pointed out. the siege of mariupol. that is extremely disturbing with the stories we hear coming out of their. we spoke with a couple that have evacuated, and we spoke with him yesterday, they had gotten there just a night before. and they described a harrowing escape from that same just this morning. we are hearing of that ball bombing of that school in mariupol, about 400 people inside, a rescue effort underway there. this comes just several days, as you mentioned, after the bombing of the theater where there was also a rescue operation there. russian forces have surrounded the city. they are using land mines to prevent people from getting out, extremely concerning situation in the southern part of the
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country. and also for the citizens in the east. >> we can hear gabe talk about that, and you hear the particulars of this hypersonic missile, you see while eyes are on this right now. after that two or call with china, warning them against helping russia anymore, tell me more about this trip. is there potential for additional support, through nato, to get to ukraine, do you think? >> there certainly could be, vinita. president biden -- warning the chinese that there could be significant consequences for china if it aids the russians militarily, helps it to have a -- when we will do something to this intended to put a photo for its invasion of ukraine. but there is no sign from the chinese for any change in posture there. in fact they are sticking to this for a position that they've always been opposed to war. that they are on the right side of history, according to the chinese. and in that meeting that president biden will have --
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two goals. one, how best to help ukraine. the other how best to shore up the alliance, the eastern flank countries, that are so worried that they could potentially be putin's next target. with his children bergh, nato secretary general, they are looking for significantly -- more for the eastern flank of nato. they already have about 130 airplanes on high alert. a similar number of allied ships that are at sea, and of course the second part of that, how best to help ukraine, that will fall to individual nato members to decide whether they want to transmit additional weapons systems, a defense, potentially aircrafts to the ukrainians. nato working very hard not to let the aligns itself get drawn into a military conflict with russia. >> how best to help ukraine, that really is the question. gabe, josh, thank you both for your report. let's bring in retired
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brigadier general and former secretary of state, mark and kenneth, and elizabeth sack, all for a senior fellow. the -- on foreign affairs. i want to start with you general. gabe gave the detailing of what's hypersonic missile is capable of. basically, in 2018, we first hear about it. ten times the sound of speed. and as gabe mentioned, an unstoppable -- what does that mean? and it doesn't mean in terms of the war that we have seen two of these? >> first of all, hypersonic, as he said, are extraordinarily fast. 7500 miles an hour. they are very phoenix speed makes it difficult to detect by radar, and also to shoot at them, because in most cases the ballistic missiles that we would fire against them are slower than that. more importantly, they can also be corrected midflight. we can take a left, they can
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take a right, which normally we do not see was ballistic missiles. why? the reason that putin's shooting there was not for tactical purposes. there is no practical value between a hypersonic missile and a -- missile. he is sending a message to nato. i have these, the chinese have these, you do not have these. so, beware i've gotten, and i could use some of this escalates outside of ukraine. >> that is so incredibly well put. elizabeth, he is talking about nato. we have seen the west reject a no-fly zone and provide fighter jets to ukraine. now we see biden, heading to europe for that nato summit and european council. what -- i hate to say deliverables, but i think we are at that place right now or people are saying, what are some things we can count? and what do you think we can expect? >> -- the same complement of foreign policy tools. well this is an escalation, it is still not a reason to cross
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over to using direct military force. and i think that is that the president back in the european leaders will be talking about. what can we, do short of engaging directly? i think that part of the messaging of the hypersonic missiles as probably because you have been hearing a lot of discussion right now about what types of missile defense systems can be provided to ukrainians. and perhaps that messaging is, it is not going to help too much. but i think there are still those types of military materials and supplies they can be provided, that we are still working on. and you have the big goal in stations that are not up yet, which is europe cutting off russian oil and gas. i understand why that is a very hard push and they are trying to lean off of it, we can off of it, but at the stage this might be the biggest thing that the allies can do to really cut off that funding, just to continue to help putin prosecute this war. >> when you look at how zelenskyy has managed this, he's been to fire, after he
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said that. but he also admits that he will not be joining nato. nobody, at the stage, blames him for mixed messaging. because he wants peace, but he does not want at all costs. do you see a cease-fire being negotiated? and when you think ukraine is willing to agree to? >> i certainly hope a cease-fire will come about, but i see absolutely no motivation on the part of president putin to call for a cease-fire. let us be clear, you do not call for a cease-fire when you are winning. and even though this is a slow meat grinder landing recruiting still thinks he is winning. i am white zelenskyy won't agree to. who would agree, won't agree, to unusual country. once a to a turnover has of his government. but i am worried that he will start taking a hard look at the fight, when it starts in kyiv. and, say this is just too much for me in my people. and then he might concede. he will never surrender, but he
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might concede. and, that i think, is a very dangerous place for ukraine to be. conceding in the face of putin is not a good option. >> it is really hard to hear at the stage, with what we've seen transpire, then you think putin still feels that he is in the driver seat, that he is winning. elizabeth, i want to ask you with an interview with npr. anthony blinken says that merely stopping the invasion of ukraine may not be enough for russia to get relief from sanctions. the u.s. removes sanctions from russia, blinken says, quote, we want to make sure that this can't happen again. the russian won't pick up and do exactly what it is doing in a year, or two, years or three years from now. does this even make russia less likely to negotiate a cease fire? if it does not guarantee the sanctions would be lifted? >> i think what it does is it communicates to russia that it is not going to be enough to just talk about doing something. they are going to have to indicate, in a way, they are not going to continue to escalate. and i think that comes out of a place where we saw putin's bad
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act to get worse and worse overtime, as we basically -- sanctions in the past after the invasion of crimea, for example. so i think the indication now is that we are making up for lost time, sending very different signals. what guarantees can he give? i am not just something like that would require ukraine to have appropriate defenses in the country. so it would not be easy for russia to roll back in again. is it is easy to make would listen to gastric will come into the negotiation table? now, we need to keep those talks open. and i think people will be really important right now is communication between the u.s. administration and president-elect's case governments, over, what are those criteria where the united states would be willing to pull back sanctions? because at the stage, ensuring that zelenskyy's team knows with that is, so that they can they can communicate and calibrate accordingly, would be really helpful. >> it's so interesting how much time we have all devoted to
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trying to understand what zelenskyy wants, when he's willing to accept, and won't put news even thinking. i want to thank you both, elizabeth shackle and -- blinken. next, how for russia is actually advancing its invasion, and how successful as mcclain bennett fighting back? we will have a big picture analysis. as we go to break, and emotional video shared by ukraine ministry of foreign officials foreign affairs, showing -- on their knees honoring a fallen soldier as his body is brought home for burial.
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helps us take a look at the big picture on where each side stands. >> another claim a battlefield success for ukraine. the death of another russian general, the fifth since the war began. >> it is very unusual to see general officers killed in combat at all. let alone such a large number of general officers. >> this was not going as planned for the generals nor for vladimir putin. he was supposed to fall within days. that's giant convoy meant to take it is still stalled and now. ukrainian officials say they have killed more than 40,000 russian soldiers. u.s. estimates for the go estimate about half that. the lower estimate is when the u.s. lost in iraq and afghanistan combined. ukrainians often released videos of their successes. like the aircraft they have downed. they put the number at 86. and armored vehicles often blowing up by ukrainian soldiers firing missiles. ukraine says they have
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destroyed more than 1300. despite, this ukraine says that russia maintains a percent of its funding capability, and russian forces have made gains, taking over various scenes in red. the mainland drums coming in the south and east. they've only sees one major city, kherson, and even there they fell victim to a siege from ukrainian forces earlier this week. >> we are always impressed by the ukrainian ability to achieve their objectives, and they are too. with they've decided to do is pursue a scorched earth policy. >> reporter: throughout the war -- have destroyed various places. one of every five ukrainian lives have been upended. 3.3 million have flooded into neighboring countries, and the un estimates that more than 800 civilians have been killed. numbers are only useful guide
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for scale. they can never measure the pain of a life forever changed. >> reporter: how would you tell people watching this from america which is happening in ukraine? >> it is terrible, it is horrible. i have no words. >> thanks to cal perry for that report. now to an extraordinary scene, the aftermath of heavy shelling on the eastern city of kharkiv, friday. rescuers were able to pull this man out of rubble of a level the building. a times they had to use their bare hands just to reach. in new footage shows the level of peer devastation caused by the incessant bombardment there. since russian forces have been able to take control of the city, they have resorted to its destruction. that is according to new york times analysis. where the idea is a lifelong resident of kharkiv, and has made the decision to stay there to documents the war. her new diaries have become popular on twitter. take a look. >> yesterday, russian missiles he did this three story
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residential building, and you see that it is now -- and also there were some strikes during the last, previous, week in this area. i have spoken to people living here, then now they are packing their things and trying to get out. >> we are very lucky to have maria have a divas with us. maria, first of, all i'm. sorry i'm sorry you've had to watch for city get destroyed, and i think it really speaks a lot about your bravery that you are choosing to stay there undocumented so that the world can see these unfiltered stories, and hear from you to describe this really like for the ukrainian people. on that note, what are you seeing and hearing today? >> thank you so much to thank you for the possibility, i really appreciate it. i try to go out and speak to people as much as i can. take every possibility to show to the world what has happened, and they walk crimes committed by russian here in my own city. in ukraine. yesterday i was in the
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underground in the subway station. and the men there, a young man, someone gave birth to their newborn baby. on the sixth february. so after the war had started. and she was in the hospital, in the basement. and she is with her baby now. she lives in the subway car. when they volunteers bring them fully medical aid. but then, i cannot imagine people working there. for even more than three weeks. this is -- of the russian war against ukraine in many people suffer, many have left kharkiv, but there are so many people on the ground here because it used to be one of the -- cities, and still there are thousands of people under constant shelling in constant bombardment. >> as we speak to maria, i want you to know that our viewers are also seeing for the state
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yourself shot. a turning point for me early this, morning i was reading an article about a more direct, or who basically, said i am running out of coffins. there is so much construction. the more's are overflowing. you've chosen to put yourself in a really vulnerable, dangerous situation. i'm curious, how did you come to that decision? that you want to stay? >> well, i was fighting with the russian disinformation when the war started in 2014. this is a second time russia has invaded ukraine. and when this moment happening on the 24th of february, i saw the huge wave of disinformation coming from russian state media. they now spread all kinds of outrageous lies about the situation in ukraine. they claimed they do not target residential areas, they do not target civilians. they claim that this is not a war at all, and ukraine is preparing a nuclear bomb. and to unveil all these lies, i think this is very important.
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to show people in the world the real situation, on the ground. because russian uses information as a player in this war. -- missiles, fighter jets, they use the information to produce thousands of misleading messages. so i think my role now is, i am fighter and disinformation battlefield. because i cannot go where the real battle is, soldier in military and territorial defense. and so, i think that i can continue by doing what i do. >> you certainly do contribute. but i have to say, especially when i see, this driver just get scared? i imagine there's a lot of emotion when you are walking through familiar places. places you might have grown up, and walking with family, walking with loved ones. are you ever just scared of a moment, capturing it and showing it to people could put you in danger? >> well now, everyone is in
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danger here. today, i wasn't seeing people cued in front of the shops. and there were already cases where the missile had to targeted these people, in these residential areas. and people were killed just because they want to get brad. so, everyone is in danger now in ukraine. there is no safe place. nowhere in the country. because russia is a target in other cities as well. in the western part of ukraine. so that is why i think we are now united, as ever. i feel this feeling of strong resistance and readiness to fight with this aggression. the more we bring this war to win and, the batter. and that is why i think that everyone and me myself will do everything we can. that this moment will come sooner. i see thousands of volunteers
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helping, and people across ukraine doing what they can do to bring this victory to ukraine. and to stop this war. >> it really has been humbling to see into read the stories and the accounts of regular people who are just saying what you are saying. we will not take, it we will not allow our land to be taken. we want to thank you both for your work and for your time. maria avdeeva, think you so much. >> thank you it was my pleasure. >> the war in ukraine has so far been asked by much of the war world, but what about those inside russia? a look at putin's propaganda machine, next. plus, reports of a deadly shooting outside of a car show in arkansas. more than a dozen people hurt, including children. we will have the new details after a break. th my trusty team ♪ ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that?
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in a town 30 miles south of brussels. these images are just coming into our control, room were working to verify exactly what happened. the prime minister of belgium tweeted, quote, a community gathering to celebrate with struck in the heart. my thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. one suspect is in custody after a shooting acetic hello in arkansas, miles outside of little rock. -- one dead, 20 hurt, including children. the shooting started around 6:50 local, time involved multiple gunmen according to officials. one of the organizers of the event said that the gathering was to promote nonviolence. in california, authorities are investigating a helicopter crash in los angeles county that injured at least six people. the l.a. sheriff's department says the chopper was responding to a service call when it came crashing down into the national forest. this time, authorities don't know what caused the crash. president vladimir putin is tightening his control what information gets filtered down to his citizens.
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if you are watching russian state tv, russian losses are few and far between and ukraine is run by nazis. nbc news correspondent kathy park takes us in the lives of russia's propaganda machine. russian president vladimir putin, making a rare public appearance justifying the invasion in ukraine as thousands appeared to pack a moscow stadium on friday. putin saying, the best proof is how our boys are fighting at the special military operation. shoulder to shoulder, they help and support each other. his message blaring the realities of the bloodshed in ukraine. russian state tv largely avoiding scenes of destruction, like the theater attacked in mariupol. instead, playing up the shelling by ukrainians on pro-russian forces in the eastern regions of donetsk and -- . >> what are russians being told right now? >> they're being told that, the purpose is essentially to
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demilitarize a d nazi fire. whatever that means. >> the public at their information through state tv, where the truth is hard to find. for example, viewers are told that rise and gas prices in the u.s. are a sign that american sanctions are backfiring. and shown clips like this, from fox news. >> hey, maybe a war with russia isn't a good idea for the united states. >> russia reinforcing its recent media crackdown. any media deviating for the party line could face a 15-year jail sentence. german news anchor -- has covered russia for five years, but pulled out of the country two weeks ago. even though she felt no immediate threat during her report, she said she could no longer do her job as a journalist. >> when the police come, you just do what they say. because, unless, they will arrest you. >> you always felt like you are being watched, because you are a journalist? >> you are watched. >> as war rages on, putin's grip on information tightening. with russians caught in the middle.
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for thursday's crucial nato summit in brussels, a group of senators have advice for what he should tell allies in hopes of fending off russia's invasion of ukraine. in a letter obtained by politico, the group line five key issues to convey. writing in part, we urge all nato allies to exhaust all options available to provide the necessary military assistance to support ukraine. including president zelenskyy's request for military equipment to defend ukraine's own skies. they're also calling on nato to bolster its presence on the eastern flank and requested that the administration and nato consider more strategic a comprehensive approach toward the black sea region, which russia is freely using to attack ukraine and killed countless innocent civilians. another request includes having nato increase its presence of the balkans, calling it a vulnerable area of europe. joining me now for reaction is
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democratic congressman brendan boyle of pennsylvania, he coaches the european union caucus. when you see those requests, especially in sequence, it seems like a clear call to ramp up the military presence in europe. how do you read that? and do you feel like this is something with the rest of congress could get behind, without risking escalation with moscow? >> thanks for having me on. i'm not familiar with all of their letter, i did, however, coal lead a bipartisan letter of house members. some week and a half ago, some ten days ago. which sounds quite similar to the letter that you just read, from my senate colleagues. that included a call for more armaments, more weapons, more drones, more growlers, having nato is the data that it has to help ukraine identify russian targets, help ukraine gm
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russian airspace, etc. it shows you that there are things more that we can do. although, to be clear, we have already done a significant amount and shouldn't overlook that. i just voted on a bill that some 13.6 billion dollars to ukraine in the form of economic assistance, humanitarian assistance and defensive assistance, as well. >> i, mean given that you are so involved and what we are seeing right now, brandon, i want to know what you want to see come out of this week summit with nato. >> well, i have been involved in, thank, you in this issue for sometime. all it is that i've been in congress. my neighbors, in the neighborhood here where i live in philadelphia, are, for the most, part ukrainian and ukrainian american. including my next door neighbor, for seven years. so, it is quite personal here. when you have a ton of neighbors who have family members who are now very much in harm's way.
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this is not a new fight for ukraine but, obviously, over the last 25 days, it has taken on a whole new dimension and seriousness since the fighting expended, from the donbas region to the entire region. >> it's interesting. i think, right now, a lot of people are talking about the potential of diplomacy. is that a better strategy? but, i want to talk to you about congresswoman madison cawthorn, who now has a stark role on russian state tv after he called someone ski ethan. -- pointed out that this is someone who said turn on classified briefings about the war. so, what is your reaction and do republicans have a putin problem? >> in, short yes. remember, donald trump was of course a cheerleader for putin. and, so donald trump's biggest supporters, when he was, president people like madison cawthorn, marjorie taylor, green etc, they have been keeping up the trump's rhetoric
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of praising putin and bashing zelenskyy, calling him a thug, etc. you've seen a number of my republican colleagues suddenly dual one 80. i'm afraid they're going to twist our ankles with how quickly they've turned over the last 25 days, to attempt to get people to forget all of the pro russian and anti ukrainian views they've had over the last four years. some of the most die hard maga types are still sticking with the old script, it might end up costing them politically, certainly it would be best if it did. >> all, right brendan. we want to thank you for your time and your insights, thank you for waking up with us. coming up, next unique insight from a former kgb agent on how putin calculated, or perhaps miscalculated, the invasion of ukraine. you don't want to mess, it stick around. customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need, and we gotta do it fast. [limu emu squawks]
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what is the response to saying the president should -- do we think that is a plan for presents going forward? >> i watch way too early from the beginning, i am loving it. >> >> we delivers much news as we can. the news you need to start your day five in the morning. we try to have a little fun with it to. >> way too early, with danish in the mirror. following morning joe, weekday mornings beginning at 5 am on msnbc. >> russia may have made some advances in its air assault on ukraine this week, but the
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consensus among military experts is clear. putin miscalculated the invasion, a big one for the former intelligent officer with the kgb. there isn't a decrease and morale among -- including five of their own generals. meanwhile, putin has not been able to successfully replace local officials and puppet leaders, in the capital of kyiv remains under ukrainian control. according to a washington post op-ed, putin's opposing mixture of tar charm, ruthlessness, and the cunning of a soviet counter intelligence officer. what went wrong this? time our next guest has some unique insight. jack maher ski was recruited by the kgb to spy on the u.s. during the cold war. then he worked for the americans after the fall of the soviet union. he is featured in a podcast called agent. jack, thank you for waking up with us. >> good morning thank you for having me. >> that washington post op-ed hints that we all thought.
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prior to this bungled invasion we felt like putin had some secretive knowledge because he worked for the kgb. and it allowed him to interfere with foreign elections. so it really makes you wonder, how do we get to where we are? did he not take the advice was given, or we had a point where he only surrounds herself with people who can puppet what he wants to hear. >> it is one of the other, or both. dictators in the history, talking about stolen and hitler and vladimir lenin, ruled by fear. you have people under you, specialty people, particular ones in this case, who may well be afraid to tell you the truth because you don't like it. there is this really telling interaction that putin had with the head of the suv are,
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somehow the guardian get a hold of this and this back and forth you see, putin is actually talking down to his intelligence chief. and the intelligence chief is afraid. he is miserably shaken. the information that putin would have, should have, relied on before starting this quote unquote special action, would have come from the generals. that is, of the army. and military. and the intelligence service. i know one thing, i didn't know much about the mood hurry. but now the gru, and the military intelligence, which is never been mentioned in this context, is very capable. and there is no way that they wouldn't have known that ukraine could put up a huge
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fight. there is just no way. because it is quite obvious to anybody who knows something about ukraine, about the history, and about the ukrainian people. there has been deep-seated hatred among ukrainians towards everything that they russian government or in the old days the soviet government, believes. putin did not listen to the gru but, or they were afraid to tell him. either way, it is not good news for the man. >> in watching all of this, now into its fourth week, it is hard not to factor in ego in all of this. to factor in how putin, independent of all of these people he does not seem to care about, worries about putin and his perspective to others. i think the question we all have, is how dangerous is he when cornered? how far will he go to avoid
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humiliation? >> that is anybody's guess. it is quite clear that he's unhappy. he is not his own self. a couple of days ago, he gave a speech to his government. that speech don, which expressed anger, it was a typical of vladimir putin as he used to be. he used to be a sly fox, with a smile, always knowing that things will work out for him. and that anger into the speech and the lashing out that some russian citizens especially the olive guards, indicates that he is a bit unhinged right now. one can only hope that it doesn't go much further. because an author cracked was put in the corner without much of a way out will possibly
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shoot his way out. god help us all way. >> it is terrifying situation. but you mentioned that speech, and it is interesting the timing of that speech, where he does appear to lash out, and this interview with japanese television. we're belarus leader, strong putin ally, basically felt the need to defend his mental state. he basically said that he is absolutely fits. he is in better shape than ever. this is a completely safe -- i hear you laughing there because when you hear these words, a healthy person, physically healthy, an athlete. you have to wonder, what was going on behind the scenes? why did he feel the need to say this, now? and i can tell me or laughed, or you do not believe any of this is true. >> well, i am roughly his age, and for me to claim that i'm in better shape than i have ever ben's just stupid, okay? the president of belarus made a fool of himself by saying that. but to the fact that, the thing
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is, these people believe in their own propaganda. and a lot of that eventually will lead to their undoing, because if you are in an echo chamber where you only believe what you are thinking, you are not in reality anymore. >> it is a scary situation in that regard. jack would you really want to thank you for your time in your perspective on all of this. >> you're welcome. >> big week ahead as the senate commissioner committee sets to -- judge ketanji brown jackson. if confirmed, she will be the first black woman on the nation's highest court, and with one of president biden's campaign promises. while her confirmation is not likely to change, the ideological makeup of the court, jackson's hearing project will not be an easy one. nbc's news correspondent ali roth is here. one of the expectations for tomorrow ali? >> vinita, first of all, we
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know the last minute press conference for this confirmation process have stretched into this weekend. in fact, when i was arriving in the capital yesterday, i ran into judge jackson and her team leaving the capital after a walk through. so we are savoring this quiet moment in capitol hill before the craziness really, begins tomorrow. but already this confirmation process looks a lot different from the most recent one, when compared, to it which is amy cohen barrett's confirmation process. there was a lot of discussion, a lot of scrutiny from democratic senators. and it has been several weeks since we've launched the campaign for jackson's confirmation. she's met with dozens of senators, many republicans. and we really have not heard of a cohesive strategy or line of questioning, or attacks, that they plan to use against her. we have heard from many of them after the readings with her, they have said that they recognize the history making potential of this moment. judge jackson will be obviously the first black woman to sit on
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a bench, if confirmed. she says that the resume speaks for herself. she is obviously very qualified. mitch mcconnell says there is a high likelihood that she is confirmed. but we keep an eye on several gop 2020 hopefuls, who we think could use this very high-profile platform, and use it to their advantage. one of them, specifically, is missouri senator josh hawley, who is already come out and attack jackson on her criminal defense marker, specifically setting nearly a dozen child pornography cases. also a representation of several detainees in guantánamo bay. but vinita, republicans at the end of the day know that they are likely on the losing side of this. this is a democratic president who has nominated her. she would, be if confirmed, filling a liberal justices seat. she only needs 50 democratic votes to be concerned, something she likely already has. and it is a likely victory of the democrats hope to see by april 8th. >> we heard that campaign
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promise of the start of all this. president biden saying he wanted a diverse cabinet. and now we are seeing the strategic picks. quickly before i let you go, we wanted to mention that you would change the ideological makeup, should someone on that. what will not change? >> like i said, she will be, if confirmed, filling a liberal justices seats. so, as many arguments and as many counterattack as republicans can come up with during this confirmation process, at the end of the day if she is confirmed, is it likely will not change the makeup of the court. the general consensus of the court. >> all, right thank you so much for that report ali. we want to thank you for watching msnbc, reports on this very busy sunday morning. i am vinita meyer. -- starts right after the break. he is live in hungary this morning. stay with us. for the lowest price ever. plus choose from the latest 5g smartphones. get more 5g bars in more places-
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i'm ali velshi, it is sunday, march the 20th. i'm here at the new gaudy rail station in, budapest hungry. where ukrainians fleeing russia's destructive invasion continue to pour in. we begin with breaking developments, russia's defense ministry claims to have launched a second hypersonic commission thistle strike. hypersonic missiles, because of their speed and maneuverability, are hard for u.s. satellite and radar to detect. russia says the
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