march the 20th it is not name in york and 2 pm here budapest, hungary. i am ali velshi at the rail station embraced capital city of budapest, we refugees playing the war and ukraine continue to arrive. 25 days after russia began its invasion. the ukrainian resistance made up of the country's military as well as citizens who are taking up arms in the last few weeks. it continues to put a strong fight. but russia's brutal offensives continues as well. mainly from the, sky now. this morning, russia's military defense says this once again used a high position hypersonic missile against ukraine. this is the second time in his many days the russia says it has used the weapon. nbc's not independently verified this, but in adviser to the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is also saying that russia has deployed hypersonic missiles this weekend. today's attack, according to russia, destroyed a base that we used to supply and refueling vehicles for the ukrainian

armed forces. meanwhile, a missile strike in the military barrack -- about 200 ukrainians in the city of mykolaiv, it is turned it to be one of the deadliest attacks to date. an attack and probably killed more than 40 people according to a senior military official. ukraine's national police said this morning that more than 600 residential buildings from the city of kharkiv have been destroyed during the war so far. these images understory the peril that refugees are fleeing. even if this war ended this very minute, many of them will not have a home to return to. 25 days of missile strikes will take years to clean up and rebuild. and this is especially true of the southeastern city of mariupol, the site of some of the worst scenes of this war so far. mary opal is where russia struck a maternity hospital but a week ago, which killed three people and wounded 70 others. and is also where recording efforts are continually some of the theater that was bombed on sunday. more than 1000 local residents

have been sheltered buckle bunker into the theater when i was struck by a russian missile. more than 130 people have been rescued after serious injuries, but most are still unaccounted for. russian forces admit relentless pursuit of mariupol, because the city offers them a strategic advantage. effectively put off ukraine's access to the sea of ossoff, the capturing mariupol would allow them to formally capture a land bridge that links crimea to the donbas region. which is controlled by russian -backed separatists. in the draft last, night vladimir zelenskyy called the attacks a war crime. and said that what is happening there is a terror that will be remembered for centuries to come. jacob supported me now from lviv in western ukraine. jacob, lviv has had his fair share of a rights aren't since the war began. we're seeing some take from you about what that sounded like.

i just want to play that for our viewers. what is a situation like where you are now? >> ali, behind me you see the same park, the same fair, where i took that footage. it may seem like a normal day here in lviv, people run the earlier you can hear the buskers playing music in the background. but this is a defining city. this is a show of force in any way that they can, as the attacks have persisted all across this country extend here to the west of the country as well, with that airport maintenance facility being struck by russian airstrikes, just a couple of days ago. a little quick update in mariupol, you mess and you mentioned the former -- in the dark school that was doubling as a shelter. local officials are saying now

that they are finding people buried in the rubble there. and that the rescue efforts continue. in order to find anybody they can as quickly as they can. something struck me, which you mentioned earlier. everyday civilians taking up arms. and i think that maybe people back at homes might think this is some type of army reserve, people within the armed forces in the past. from what i can tell from the people that i have talked to, this is everybody that feels like they can and should and wants to contribute to ukraine's resistance against russian forces. i was in the apartment of seven young ukrainians earlier this week, kyiv, were attacks there began. they have a kind of communal living situation there now, taking care of one another. those seven are now down to six. one of them, dmytro, has decided to pick up and go back to kyiv to in list there -- in the capital as it comes under attack, in order to facilitate an attack against the russians.

that is one story that i've communicated to you which continues to play out every day in every city in this nation, as thousands flee, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. and millions are displaced there, ali, inside this country. >> you make an interesting point i was hoping to get to with david miliband, and that is, for all the refugees we talk about, there are twice the number of people in ukraine who are not in their homes, went a different city, whose kids are not in school, and that is the way to think that as well. jacob siraj, msnbc correspondent in lviv. joining me now is angela stench, a director of the center for you ration russian and eastern european studies at georgetown university. she is also senior fellow at brookings university, and a former national intelligence officer for russia and your eurasia. she's also the author of the book putin's, world russia against the western with the west. angela, thanks for seeing me again, thank you for being with us.

we talk about the unity of the world has come together on against russia, and the sanctions, and we are not quite there with the europeans deciding to not buy energy from russia, but we might get there this week with joe biden coming to europe. here is my question for you. china is not distancing itself from russia, in fact it is doing the opposite. it feels like it is standing up in favor of russia right now, and that is a big deal. when you lose all of your friends but still have china, you can survive. >> it is not only china, ali. as the subtitle of my book, against the west in risk with the rest. much of the rest of the world has not come down to russia for this. it is not only china its biggest supporter. but it is a country like india, countries in latin america and the middle east, south africa other african countries as well. so, the west is certainly isolating russia, and he's imposed very tough sanctions on them, but russia still has

lifelines. china would be the main one. but other countries are going to continue to trade with russia, and are not going to condemn it in the united nations or anywhere else. >> i just spoke to an assistant to the deputy prime minister, who was saying that the european and russian sanctions will be a very big deal. obviously here in hungary victor -- is up for reelection in three weeks, and says it is a nonstarter to even discuss. it there are other european countries that may soften on that. will that make a very big difference if europe stops buying energy, natural gas, oil and natural gas? >> that will make an enormous difference. russia we've always thought it was a superpower, and then if you superpower. it probably will not be an energy superpower going forward, particularly if they agree to sanctions on russian oil and natural gas, at least with the

natural gas. so that is an argument that is going on now within europe. it is something that the ukrainians are really pushing for, trying to figure out how this could be implemented. mr. orban is another person who has condemned mr. putin. so we will just have to wait and see whether they're able to get together. i suspect that the pressure is going to be on, now, at least for the europeans to think about moving away from importing natural gas. >> what we are talking about pressure, which is the pressure putin's feeling right now? how do you think it would react? the grand army is stalled a, don't know whether they had bad planning about intelligence service bad military, but it does seem they are now increasing airstrikes and missile strikes. which is still a big army, still a powerful military. does he feel back into a corner and is he going to get more aggressive as a result of this? >> i don't know if you feels back into a corner. he did very defined speech on

friday, talking about his religious motivations, the fight against the satanic west. obviously the sanctions are already important, russians have been feeling them, which russians have been feeling them. as you said, the military is not a nearly as well as he thought. it was not a -- they are still grinding on and getting indiscriminate and what they are doing. but he is going to continue, he is going to double down at the moment. there is nothing, at the moment, that is going to stop him. and we will just have to see if maybe the sanctions become even more in a few weeks time, that might change the calculus. as the moment does not seem as if he's willing to give on anything. >> angela, we appreciate your analysis and your deep knowledge and experience of this. angela is a senior fellow at the brookings institute, the author of brooklyn's world -- prudence world, with against the west and with the rest. several lawmakers are making their way to europe searching

for a solution. they will be doing the president by himself later this week. plus a member of the ukrainian parliament to question message for the world. quote, i want you to learn what happens when the rocket hits your home. i'm going to start with kyra reuben, the leader of the house political party, and odessa is in the kremlin's crosshairs. if russia were to take the port city, it will cut off ukraine's access to the black sea. we will have a live update from odessa right after the break. we are live from budapest, hungary. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire staying up half the night searching for savings on your prescriptions? just ask your cvs pharmacist. we search for savings for you. from coupons to lower costs options. plus, earn up to $50 extra bucks rewards each year just for filling at cvs pharmacy.

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we've been talking with all morning. they say don't just rush things in. a lot of families, hear a lot of mothers, a lot of children, all of them desperately hoping they can go home, and go home soon. >> amid that desperation it is joyful to see a child who is smiling, and having a lot of fun. >> from the start of this war, one of the key strategic targets for russian forces when the ukrainian port city of odessa. it is ukraine's third largest city. and if it were captured by russia, it would, as you can see, effectively cut off ukraine's access to the black sea. russian ships have ramped up their activity in the black sea, shelling has identified in

odessa suburbs. in order to slow down a potential russian beach landing, residents have built up addresses shorelines with lines and sand bags. a monument to the city's founders unrecognizable. it is swaddled and sandbags to protect from explosions. those walking down the boulevard have to make their way through -- those recalled had charts and meanwhile they pace the streets. about 80 miles to the east is mykolaiv, ukraine's troops are locked in trench warfare with russian forces, and this is halting their advances to odessa a great costs. joining me now from a dozen's vice news correspondent isabelle young, her reporting focuses on conflict zones. isabelle thank you for being with us. you've been documenting in tweeting some of the things you've seen. i believe you are mykolaiv when

you took some of these images. what is the situation, first of, all in odessa right now? they know the top is likely to come, but what is happening in mykolaiv seems to be slowing washington's sources from entering odessa. >> yes exactly. here in the state is kind of a waiting game. a lot of people are predicting an imminent attack. zelenskyy has said the attack is on its way. but at the moment that has not happened. we have not seen the heavy bombardment that we've seen other cities around ukraine. people are preparing for the worst. i can see from your images, people are building sandbags. a lot of civilians are training and picking up guns over the first time. and there is a drastic turnaround in the way the dozens are going about their daily lives, and a nervous temps tension in the air. people preparing for the worst. >> i want to show our viewers a photo that you took about a

young woman being shown how he is a weapon. and why i want to describe this is because we have certainly talked to parliamentarians who have said they are taking up arms and joining the territorial defense force. but this is happening everywhere across this country. people who otherwise never touched a firearm in their lives are being trained in acquiring weaponry. >> yes. it is really difficult to imagine just how drastically these peoples lives have changed over last few. weeks this, woman anastasia, is just 20 years old. and a few weeks ago she was at home with her pet dog on her pet snake. and a young woman issues to think about. and now she's picking up guns, going through tactical training. her life has taken a complete one 80, as i pretty much all ukrainians lives over the last few weeks. >> in some cases, it is more serious than. that you also tweeted a picture of body bags laying in front of a markets. i want to put that, up and worn our, viewers it is hard to

watch. but tell me about this. >> we spent the last few days in the city of nick alive, which is to forge kherson, away from odessa. the troops, the ukrainian troops there, have a pretty strong defense preventing russians from taking the city and progressing further towards odessa. but, yes this photo that we saw, the picture that they took at the apartment block in the city, we went to the department block 45 minutes after it was attacked, and there were still bodies strewn across the streets. we were actually with them there we went to the place where -- landed, and we were able to identify the things used in that civilian area. individuals were died, we solid we will screaming into the hospital, and a lot of civilian casualties. these -- are bound by most countries on the world because of the extremely indiscriminate form of attack of casualties that they fuel. so it is a really dire

situation for a lot of people. we also went to the morgue and saw a lot of casualties. bodies piled on top of each other with incidents of the more. families trying to identify their loved ones, just trying to piece together their lives and possibly this dire situation. >> i do want to ask you about the fact that the world has watched the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, go from a guy they knew to be an entertainer, to a guy a lot of critics thought was not up to a fight with vladimir putin. you interviewed him a few years ago, what's teed been doing, as a standup act. >> i did. like everybody, else i underestimated him. this is a guy who was a standup comedian, doing his skate on the stage.

i did not expect him to be in this position now, which is someone that even ukrainians, i think, who want massive fans of him of comrades the idea of him. he is somewhat of a hero in this country. so yes, a complete one 80 for him as well. it has been pretty incredible to witness him standing up to the challenge he is facing right now. >> isabelle, thanks very much for your amazing reporting in the images that you are sending via twitter. i recommend our viewers follow you so that they can see firsthand the things that you are bearing witness to. isabelle young is a vice news correspondent canada, now. there been one and a half million children displaced so far in this war. one child almost every second. here's one volunteer in budapest said that she is focusing on, to make their days in a foreign country a little bit brighter. >> we do not want to give just a combination, just a place to sleep, or just through to the

people here. but we are also organizing programs for them when, we are organizing a lot of programs. not just accommodations but also giving them food and giving them those programs -- when the center does not have to think about what they left at home. when the situation is at home. but they can forget about it. maybe just for one or two hours. but there is some possibility to think about other things. ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that? timber... [ sighs heavily ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage. wayfair's got just what you need to be outdoorsy.

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people she is showing the world exactly what is happening to our country. she posted this to twitter after a russian attack in the parliament building in kyiv. >> this is what putin is doing to my country. i want you to see it. i want you to feel it. i want you to learn happens when -- >> carol really joins me now from kyiv. as i, said she is a member of the ukrainian parliament, a leader of the -- political party. thank you for being with us again. i want to point out something that you tweeted the other day, when there were discussions about the negotiations that might be going on or could go on between your country and russia. in this discussion about russia being really aggravated by the ukraine wanting to jewelry. it reminds me that in 2015 ukraine did have neutral status. which does not prevent putin from invading donbas. so this debate is another one

of his bs. his attempt is to rebuild the russian empire, and not some words on the paper. stop it now. you make a good point, ukraine has never been a member of nato. >> right. and now we do have an intention to join nato. the which is written in our constitution. and this alone aggravates putin that much, he is saying, he started the war because of this. nato, so far, never had a membership. and this is why i take back all the negotiations in all the demands from the russian side that we need to -- to become a nato member, that we need to get back to a neutral status. it is just another top that does not have anything to do with the reality. this is number one. and as we go, we did have a neutral status in kyiv. and after russian invaded

donbas, the whole world was a hoping that it would go away somehow. it's did not. which proves, for us and for all the other countries now, that we cannot hold the paper that will go away, nor resolve or change his plans. he was very blunt about it. he said that he denies ukraine, and the people's right to exist. and this is why we know that this war will be -- russian collapse in ukraine. what this is much more global than just hoping that he will take some of our territories, and then say okay, just remove the sport from the constitution and i will be fine. it is very naive to hold that changing institution. having any kind of agreement with him would have. because there is another level of situations, who in the world

would be a guarantee for putin because. we will keep his word. there is a huge line of countries saying, okay. without that, there will be an ongoing mark on our land. ongoing horror with my people. and this is why we will continue fighting here, because we see no other way right now to resolve this. >> because i may have a map that i can show my viewers. we have not talked about belarus for a long time. but you have made the point that the belarusian's have left. belarusian officials, government officials, have left kyiv. when you are a little bit concerned that they might actually join this fight. obviously belarus is closely aligned to russia. they think of themselves as a union state, something that russia would like to make ukraine into. why does this mean if belarus coast into the fight? which does mean for ukraine? >> it was before we anticipated

belarus becoming russia. from the very beginning. the fact that we have not done that just means that lukashenko had another level of negotiations with putin. and probably had a very good bargain right now. we anticipated the pillars will get into war probably the beginning of next week, and what does not have a large army. i am very sure that many people, many russian people, will choose to fight. we know that they will basically open the second front for us. so for the north and west, they will try to attack cities like we're -- in the regions of my country. [inaudible] we anticipated that in our intelligence. and it is very sure that it will happen in the next 2 to 3 days. because >> kyra was, kira rudik,

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nation. and, now food supplies are running low. dangerously low. sky news is alex crawford reports from kyiv. i want to warn our viewers again, some of the images you are about to see are disturbing. >> this is what the russian authorities insist is not happening. the russian leader is -- that they are not hitting homes in ukraine or elsewhere. because that is an international war crime. putin insists he is doing everything to preserve the alliance of civilians -- the lives of civilians. this is in direct contradiction to the evidence many others are finding on the ground. the center is a playground, rounded into residential blocks. peoples hiding,'s schools. they have been pretty much reduced to rubble. and these are some of those who used to live in them. they have lost everything. >> [speaking foreign language]

>> it's not human to do, this she says. >> [speaking foreign language] >> to attack the children. >> -- >> they grab it if they can in plastic bags. pets, tvs, this is all they have now. right next door, there are two schools. one's -- schools have been some suspended for the time being in the capital. or these classrooms would have been full of peoples. these attacks are killing, but they are not soldiers or fighters. this was an elderly man, one of many, who felt too frail to leave the city despite the dangers. the daily attacks have left others badly hurt. he survived with terrible headwinds. his wife did not. the victims here do not have

much faith in a peaceful proceeding, and no one we spoke to any doubt about who the attacks are aimed at used. >> do you think it was specifically target civilians like you? >> [speaking foreign language] >>,,. yes, i definitely think. this witness ran to kill as many civilians as he can. the mayor of gives absolutely certain that these attacks against civilians are ruthlessly executed. do you think there is any mistake? this could've been a mistake? or was this deliberately targeting civilians? >> we are talking about mistake? whose mistake? -- was a mistake, 24 hours ago. two days ago was mistake? huge mistake, destroying the -- america poll. how many civilians have to be killed, and after that explain about mistake from russian forces? >> the un warned the country's

food supply system is falling apart, and they are scrambling to save stocks here. a number of these shops how are being here as well. a lot of these food supply chains, bakeries, food -- have all been impacted as well. they were being specifically targeted. so they're wasting no time. putin supplies in kyiv, these are all donations. they are trying to make sure that those left homeless and hungry by the bombings are somehow looked after. , this despite worries that food warehouses in the countries are running low. those who have are giving to those who don't. >> we are the second -- round of this country. the army is the first run. we are all the second run. >> this is true community. while the capitol so far have been spared major assaults,

among the workers there here there are those who have also lost their homes to daily bombings. like tatiana. two days later, she is giving her that she feels are less fortunate. >> it is strange. it is like something unbelievable. like something from the movie. they came in and gave me my real life. >> reporter: she shows us her. flat she's moved in with friends. >> for me, i feel like i can die or something like this. i am afraid. i think about what i can do for other people. something about this. how i can help. because i am lucky in my building. about 400 in the apartment, and everybody alive. other people are not so lucky. >> reporter: the suffering is unrelenting. and while's kyiv defense

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this very closely, not just as a congressman, but as an expert on this in the state department. it is a bit personal to you as it is for a lot of people who come from this part of central and eastern europe which borders or was part of the former soviet union. give me a sense of where you think we are in this and when america can or should be doing. >> it is personal to me. it should be personal to every american. they are fighting for our freedom, for our security, as well as they are fighting for their own. we have done a great deal. we have helped the ukrainians defeat russia's initial plans which was to take over kyiv. in the few days to get rid of the democratically elected government, who opposed an occupation. this is been defeated. absolutely clearly. we are entering a phase that can still be very dangerous. as putin considers a very bats set of options from his point

of view. what we need to do is keep the flow of arms to the ukrainian defenders. continue scouring the world for countries that have weapons, which ukrainians are trained on, which they can. use particularly air defense systems. the biden administration is now doing that. and they will continue to ratchet up the sanctions. there are few things that you can do there that i think would make it even stronger than it is today. we have confident somewhat we are doing. >> some of the things that can be done, some of the headroom that we've still got and sanctions come from more european countries than american. they have been trainers of -- what do you think success looks like for joe biden, since last week? obviously he's trying to use his decades of experience to negotiator matching up of those sanctions, but what would you

say would be successful. >> number one, there are still european countries, particularly eastern european allies, that need to encourage those countries and arrange for this transfers as quickly as possible. number two, you are right. the europeans are still overly dependent on russia for energy supplies. it is therefore harder for them to move as quickly as we have moved to ban the import of russian oil. i think they recognize that this is something they have to do in a much faster timeline than they are comfortable with, or working towards before. there are things united states can do for, them for the europeans, to ease the burden. to ease the blow that they will suffer. we also have to talk about scenarios going forward. this could go well. we could have a negotiation

with ukrainians find some sort of agreement with the russians, a cease-fire, and into the war. that would be the best-case scenario. and then we have to talk about how we would react to that, in terms of the sanctions. we can also go with a very dark and scary reaction. putin decides that there is only one way or to understand the conflict, by testing nato article five. because in a way, the most important thing we can do is maintain that unity, that determination on european allies to have the nerves of seal if he does test is in that way. >> congressman, there are a number of conservative far-right media personalities including tucker carlson, there are also been some of your colleagues, josh hawley said some things, madison cawthorn. and finally, marjorie taylor greene, who said that these

agreements have been graduated by both russia and ukraine. finally, you are training -- saying that putin is targeting it slaughtering's events in a brutal unprovoked war against ukraine, a sovereign democratic nation. only the crime in their useful idiots we call that a conflict in which peace agreements have been violated by both sides. what is your sense of the fact that there is an influential group of american conservatives who are entirely on the wrong side of this? >> they have been on the wrong side for years. these are people who admired putin. he thought he was a strong leader. he thought he was a model for america. it is easy to dismiss people like marjorie taylor greene as just being crazy infringe. but the fact is, and the next congress there will be one people of marjorie taylor greene. because they are winning seats around the country. the fact remains that the likeliest republican standard there, for president, in 2024,

is somebody who tried to pull america out of nato. when he was last president of the united states. he said putin's invasion of ukraine was an active genius. i have a lot of ukraine colleagues who are solid on ukraine, conservative colleagues who are solid in ukraine. he want to paint joe biden as weak. their problem is not joe biden. their problem is in their own party. their problem is sending propaganda to millions of americans every night. so yes, that does worry me. we are, solid nonpartisan in the congress but there is a debate in the republican party which needs to be resolved. in favor of america, our allies, and democracy. and it hasn't been resolved. >> congressman, we appreciate your insight. thank you, congressman tom malinowski in new jersey. some has the best we offer sport is a hot meal and some

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you've turned on the news during any number of humanitarian catastrophes in recent years, you'll likely have

seen folks from world criminal central kitchen on the ground helping out. it was founded by jose andres in 2010. it prides itself on regularly having one of the first crews on the ground wherever there is some sort of disaster, offering free wholesome meals to people who need it, immediately thereafter. the group partners with local restaurants and chefs in areas that are -- that had an impact to quickly scale its operations when needed. on february 24th, the russians invaded ukraine. on february 25th, chef andres was fired up at world central kitchen and serving food in eastern europe. >> no more of allowing people that they think they are the -- of the world that they are bad people, bringing the worst out of humanity. we need to be the force of good. we do this by delivering to tables, food, at the center of the community. that's the way we will create a

better world. >> world central kitchen says it already served 1 million meals to families across ukraine. poland, romania, moldova and hungary and more than 55 cities across more than 330 distribution points of which i have seen some while i've been here. the celebrity chef, activist and founder of world central kitchen jose andres joins me now. it is not even worth calling you a celebrity chef anymore. that stuff you do is secondary to what you're doing in world central kitchen. every time people get off this train or every train or every bus i've seen, the first thing that helpers give them is food, because these people are hungry and you cannot make the next decision about where you're going or what you're doing until you have food and drink in your system. you have realized this through natural disasters and now man made disasters like this one. >> yes. fortunately in this situation, one of the things that people

need is sometimes use a humble plate of food. that's what the men and women of world central kitchen have been doing. we are on our way to 200,000 meals a day. we're about to arrive to 2 million meals. we're doing over 100,000 meals inside ukraine. we are already probably around 14, 15 cities, partnering with local kitchens, local chefs, that they want to be part of feeding their people these dark hours. we are making sure we're sending to cities like odesa, main others to make sure that in case of those cities are under attack, the population, the woman, the children, will have a place nearby that they can comfort their bodies with a humble plate of soup. >> jose, you are also -- you're operating in -- with odesa, you're operating inside ukraine. you yourself have been there a

couple of times during this disaster. what are you seeing on that side? >> well, we began operations already over two weeks ago inside lviv, where we have our great partners, we're helping feed in the stations, in the many, many other shelters, in the lviv arena. right now i'm here in madrid where we are sitting in places like madrid, the city of madrid made shelter for ukrainians, 100 meals a day, doing more because we're doing three meals a day, so it is like a thousand for the 200, 300 people who are being hosted here. so we see that we are going to have to be helping in many cities, across europe, helping the local governments keep feeding the ever growing refugees in ukraine. in lviv, we have seen in the

last days, today i was leaving, already has been attacked near the polish border, the last two days we saw some missiles falling down. so the western side of ukraine, that actually was safe haven for many ukrainians leaving war is already kind of feeling the war is getting closer. let's hope this will not happen and that the ukrainians will have safe haven in the western part of ukraine. >> yeah, it is worth remembering, though, we're talking about 3.5 million refugees who left ukraine, but there is probably double that number of people inside ukraine, who are not in their homes. and, again, it is the same problem, getting food, getting shelter, knowing where you're going to live, what you're going to do. the bottom line is the problem you're solving does not change, whether you're inside ukraine, outside ukraine or for many of the natural disasters you have covered, that a person cannot take the next step if they don't

have food first. >> totally. already obviously the cities that are under siege we know they are going to a very dire situation. it is very difficult to bring food in, inside. i know many is trying to do this. many people are putting themselves, making sure those men, those women, those children, those others, that they are afraid, hungry, that they're able to receive some help. let's hope that humanitarian corridors will open to let all the civilians leave safely without being bombed in the process of trying to put themselves in safety. but obviously that's what we're trying to do. there are other stations trying to do the same, but food, we know at the end of the day, it is at the heart of keeping people fed. we need to do everything we can to keep the cities that they are going through a hard time, fed, because if not, this is going to

be already a humanitarian catastrophe on top of the crazy war and all the deaths that we're seeing through the tvs. so let's hope that through a plate of food, we can hope this will be achieved and we can be there next for the people. the only thing we can do is make sure every cook, every person, they are putting their lives at risk opening a kitchen and making bread, cooking with whatever they have, and then bringing the food to the people that they are in basements, in shelters, afraid for me gives me little bit of hope to know there are people that are not going to be those women and children and otherly forgotten. the least we can do at world central kitchen is be next to them, making sure they will be fed every day. >> jose, bless you and all the restaurants and the volunteers who work with you.

you and i have been talking about this for years, i think i'm done introducing you as a celebrity chef or well known chef or one of the world's best chefs. that's not who you are anymore. you are the founder of world central kitchen, you're an activist who decided the world needs to be fed first. jose, thank you for that. jose andres, founder of world central kitchen. that does it for me. "the sunday show" with jonathan capehart begins right now. welcome to "the sunday show." i'm jonathan capehart. we begin with breaking news in vladimir putin's month long invasion of ukraine. russia's military now claims it has launched a second hypersonic missile attack against ukraine. and claims that the blast killed more than 100 ukrainian soldiers, a number that is neither been confirmed by ukraine, nor independently verified by nbc news. these weapons seen in a video released by