tv Sky News on MSNBC MSNBC March 20, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
9:01 pm
coming up on hotspots -- >> they don't know that there is some world outside. they don't know that those possibilities. >> people are guatemala, where the climate. is >> actually find it very shocking to look at a small child and see how -- >> we are the first journalist and to the site. >> that was probably both harrowing part of the trip.
9:02 pm
>> we knew that the communities that were struggling to eat -- >> there's poverty, there's hugger, there's blood nutrition. >> they have to make this terrible choice. >> one of the volcano shared guatemala -- >> would be called to >> their steve speier got. big volcano. they've been trying to get into the country. but it reaches years, under recent american administrations, the like of the crisis has been hugely politicized. >> the migrants themselves have been characterized as rapists and criminals trying to get it to the united states to cause
9:03 pm
trouble. whether there's been indicators, for a long time, the probably is it as simple as that. and that made us think, we have to perhaps go back to the root courses. >> we have both been covering the migrant crisis in central america since i started working on. and he has been working on this crisis long before the. but at that time, we were in mexico. we bonded it toward. and we documented movement of migrant care. but >> we are going to try to jump the fence. >> it was clear that many of these people were escaping terrible violence at home, gang violence, police corruption,, government corruption. and, in many cases, they were economic migrants. it was also people who are literally forced out of their homes. not by any, whatnot by what's big.
9:04 pm
and so, it away, they were a new form of migrants. they were actually climate margaret's. so, when we started looking up to guatemala, the first thing that struck us with the hurricanes that had happened in 2020. that the more we started to research the topic and talk to people and expert to countries, the more we started to realize that the hurricanes were actually a freak weather of that that were part of a bunch, much bigger problem. and the problem was badly dropped. >> sometimes, it's about to be ready. sometimes it's meant to be baking hot. that then you have a huge number of her kids. they hit it with a huge frequency -- we knew before we set off for guatemala that there were communities, small communities who lived it quiet rumbled mounted areas that were struggling to eat. it was a suppleness. then we do that the country has one of the highest rates of
9:05 pm
malnutrition in the world. it was becoming worse and worse because of climate change. this is a child at the center of a severe geisha and market for four laudable. it's a rather very high heels. so, it was by self, stewart at that working together as a team. we've done a lot of stories together it's a trump merica. it's very familiar territory for our t. >>
9:06 pm
we would be traveling in quite challenging conditions. at a point, you have to just walk up. you walk between the villages, there are no roads between. there are just pathways. and that is where the people do suffer the most. they have crop fields here. but now a combination of red, it's a tight and hurricane meets that 100% of the crops
9:07 pm
have been destroyed. he is extremely desperate, he's one of the few -- [speaking spanish] it's become so unpredictable that -- it's difficult applied, it's difficult to have expectations. and then you wonder is there any point in it. >> we do that in a lot of these villages and their communities there were a lot of women and children because all the bed left. so we wanted to speak to these women. part of us being able to do that is and the amazing woman named sofia. >> sophia is basically the founder of the program. they were set up, additionally,
9:08 pm
because of the corruption that took place in antigua. >> what's the thought of that particular volcano had passed, they started to look into the deed within their own country. malnutrition a child hunger became something that she identified early on. how >> this is the area which most of the crops do not grow all year round. there is poverty, there is hunger and malnutrition. >> she is an absolute lifeline for the women of this community. and it takes a while for her to get to know. them >> she said, when they first arrived, they like an outsider speak there. >> they don't know that there's a world outside. they don't know that there are different kinds of life out there. they don't know that there's possibilities. >> the first hope that severest took us to this community, she had explained that there was a woman, she was heavily pregnant what's obvious saw her, she was
9:09 pm
a must pregnant -- >> she lives in this little house. they lost it all. >> yes. >> and now they live all together. while some of the women take care of the kids so that they could work a little and get some food. they just created the spa community of women. >> and this is really an act of survival? >> yes, it's an act of survival, yes. >> it's a very complicated step. >> so, cried over a fence, walk through crops. and i say crops, but they were dead crops. walk through them and walk this little trail to her home. >> and we walked it, and she will say hello, hello, hello. it was pitch black. we realized that there was actually somewhat there and there was a lady who had just had her baby a few hours before. the mob was more than happy to see sophia and more than happy
9:10 pm
for her to take the baby away to check, or where her and to see that she was okay. >> it's a baby girl. >> this was a classic case. the lady already had another child. >> they live with about -- >> you need to add the fact that if she has a daughter, that's two and a half years old, but there's no food she has the breastfeed to have food. so right now, this two and a half-year-old will not have bob's work. so basically we're expecting her to go down it weeks. >> so the two and a half-year-old will suffer.
9:11 pm
newborn baby symbol revel. it doesn't matter whether you see that it affects the hospital or first whole country. but, you get up and have a little bit of hope things will be different. the next finally we better the community was isabella and her children. it wasn't very easy to get to that. they live very high up on one of them not to tops. we had to do a track up to see her.
9:12 pm
[speaking spanish] >> it was the middle of the day and it was pitch dark inside. and lying on the basis to sleep or too little boys. >> he is two and a half. he had just been in the center because he is too little. >>. >> i just couldn't get over how small he was and looking at the baby who was a little bit thicker that the new board. he was too but old. i actually found a very shocking to look at that small child and see how gourd he was. and i think for me it brought hold the story. it was the picture of the story. it was that direct connection that we were looking for. >> he was ticket to a recovery
9:13 pm
center. the recovery center that put him in -- he had a horrible diplomat. last week i gave him this ointment that i've always carry around. so that, it's almost gone. >> and even that, sort of a simple rush could be very dangerous indeed. >> yes. >> because they are so weak? >> yes. >> i think without sofia at her leadership, a significant proportion of the children be boarded that if i have it would die. the weather systems have not become so unreliable, there is the way that they can plan to say will get to this you'll be all right. what they're probably saying is that we'll get to this, will we get through it? will we get through the one after that? >> is this to be fully extended
9:14 pm
because of malnutrition? >> well, the biggest because of malnutrition as well as. and that is why people see their trumpy faces and they think, oh, -- but they're just retaining water. >> so, he's got ability but there's nothing it it? >> the thing it did. we were finishing up they'll be with the community and we were giving some shots of the valleys, that kind of thing. various social media sites speaking off the volcanoes in guatemala. >> so this is quite active really? >> which one is it, it's the one from 2018? >> yes, same. >> it's an angry one. >> yes, it's a feisty. what >> david eke was the one who was speaking. >> i am calling to let you know that one of the volcanoes it
9:15 pm
guatemala is going to be bad today. >> going from what's story like that to another volcano is a hole that they're bullpit. you know, how do you cover a volcanic eruption safely. it's really want that you do have to think about. >> well, we might find ourselves starting here doing what story and and think of it entirely different. what >> the conclusion that we came to is that we had enough of the story that we were doing to actually go to and tweak what, guatemala and figure out what was happening with the volcanoes. >> it's 2018, one of the volcanoes but, the volcano fire, erupted at spewed billions of tons of rock and ash and the lava flowed into communities
9:16 pm
around and it was a completely tragic event. if completely golfed communities that lived at the base and around the volcano. there was a lot of excitedly of what happened in 2018 could happen again and there was a big irruption. >> we are going to beat some of the people who lived around the volcano and see if they could prepare to leave. because there's definitely activity here. i think the ball candles, if they go bad, they go bad very quickly fix. there's only somebody precautions you could take. but we are going to look. >> it was because a lot of rumbles. it had all the indicators of a big explosion that happened only a few years before. it killed a lot of people in the vicinity. so many of these communities are still there and still
9:17 pm
populated. >> these communities, there are lots of them around there. actually, all of them are incredibly vulnerable to the lava. and obviously from the gases that could come off a major explosion. over 180,000 people live in these communities on these volcanoes. >> at the real crucial point which is the point that they made to us is, yes, they know it's dangerous. they used to fear it. that's part of life. [speaking spanish] >> and you wouldn't think of leaving? [speaking spanish] a, perhaps, this is the key. they cut --
9:18 pm
>> it was particularly hard to fill big volcanoes. it seemed as if they were trying to hide from us. >> it was crazy to the point that we gave up on the volcano after trying forever. we could hear it but we could not see it. it was just covered. it was a very, very low cloud. we decided to climb up the other volcano which was also erupting. we had to get permission from the police and proper authorities. we did it by just driving up and chatting. [speaking spanish] >> they said we could go up. they could take us up there. >> so we began to drive further and further up the side of the
9:19 pm
volcano. i was getting bored at both scared. for many cases, would we were going up the volcano, to we were driving up the side of this tidy road. >> it's a very bumpy trip. >> and for, there is a precipitate drop on the right-hand side convicted thousands of feet. >> you simply could not get any further up. it almost felt slightly better big on foot rather than be in a car. i don't know why. it just felt like that. >> the higher up we were getting, the bar egg see stewart was getting. now, i know stewart is afraid of height. we were quite high.
9:20 pm
is it exploded? >> we are right next to the volcano. you could hear it, steve speier got. a pretty terrified actually. it's a pretty big volcano. >> i was really scared. it was troubling. and sometimes the camera can't quite get across what it feels like when you are quite clear to something. >> i've concerned. and i could see steve coming out. yeah. >> webb stewart is quiet beads stewart's nervous. that there was a lot of quiet. >> heights allowed noises. i am really high up. and there's really loud noises from the volcano. >> but that i got --
9:21 pm
>> he's not happy because the sub was it the wrong place. >> there's a white cloud with bright light. i beat, chabad. >> welcome back tonight, don't worry. >> by the end of the day, usually around five or six, the cloud would actually drop at the volcano would expose itself. we sat in the field that we were given special permission to be hit by the order which had a very good body shot for the lava flow. >> it's extremely dark. at there is apparently a huge fight [inaudible] there. >> i think we got there about four in the afternoon. but i think we left at around
9:22 pm
three. and i was absolutely pros it. i felt, finally, finally -- i think i had followed the sweep of the car. and i felt, what are you doing. >> it was one hell of a fireworks show at the end. it was special. >> and after a few minutes, it opened up as he got the shot that he wanted. >> but the volcano was erupting, you could feel it. at that makes you feel, really, really small as a human being. but i could say today, it was one of the most impressive, that rural spectacles you had ever seen. >> it was also a big power and energy at the same time. >> the next day, we woke up and it was the most clear day. the sun was shining.
9:23 pm
and you could see the volcano at all it's glory. how is it possible on the day that we're leaving, this is the day when you had the clarity of the volcano. that was so frustrated. >> the volcano decided to hide itself when we were audit, but is now fully visible. >> it's a bit like tragic hurricanes. you cannot plant eruptions or earthquakes. you just have to go with the flow. >> where did we go and do the stories and tell people stories, in this case, the climate change at the dry corridor and shell value treasured, the volcanoes, their impact on the communities around them, we cup and we go -- you leave that. people leave impressions on you. sophia left a real impression on the. her at her and gio are suffer
9:24 pm
point to guardians. >> they traveled all the way to see you. >> she is a remarkable woman. and she is a league interest in the absurdity of the volcanic eruptions at the uncertainty with the effect it had on people. and some of it can actually be attributed to that big problems. and perhaps you can't stop volcanic eruptions. but you probably can't stop climate change. >> up next -- >> this is the ability terry drive. harris >> started off thinking, well, actually we're going into the heart of where we want to go. in it... mostly. even what gets near your body. please please please take that outside.
9:25 pm
here to meet those high standards is the walgreens health and wellness brand. over 2000 products. rigorously tested. walgreens pharmacist recommended... and particularly kind to your wallet. ♪♪ ♪ ♪ an it's electric...nd made extraordinary. ingenuity... in motion. it listens, learns, adapts and anticipates your every need. with intelligence... that feels anything but artificial. the eqs from mercedes-benz. it's the car electric has been waiting for. ♪ limu emu ♪ and doug. we gotta tell people that liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need, and we gotta do it fast. [limu emu squawks] woo!
9:26 pm
9:29 pm
most people have heard about. mozambique, is a country which most people probably only associate with sun drenched beaches and yet in the underbelly, there's this growing insurgency. >> the insurgency started officially in 2017. it has grounded itself with the flag of isis. it's estimation is that close to 700,000 people have been displaced, 3000 people have died. the truth is, nobody knows. >> what is interesting is roughly the same time that they discovered this giants oil gas field, you suddenly have the makings of this insurgency. it was very violent terrific attacks. but they were very much on a small scale. and then four years later, just as the oil and gas exploration was really taking off, there was the most audacious
9:30 pm
extremist attack. which sent tens of thousands of people fleeing in terror. >> we are just getting some breaking news out of the capital of mozambique, and that is dozens of people were killed in an attack, in the northern town of palma. >> it was a real shortage of pictures it was hard to know exactly what was going on. but what was clear was there was a terrorist insurgent occurring. >> i've lived in africa for a long time. i've developed some strong contacts, within the mozambique government. we have been given this extremely rare access, and invitation, to come and see what was going on. >> we are waiting to be taken up north. -- >> i am desperately trying to persuade them to give us an interview. i'm sending various topics that
9:31 pm
we might want to cover. which is how we can convince people that is secure, and we are going to find out ourselves. probably in the next hour or so, how secure it is. it's to be informed, that mozambique the whole region, the whole of africa, that they get this terror threat under control. because it is spreading. >> there's a hell of a lot of unknown about the truth, we did not know entirely what we are going to be shown it was just to get there and get established some facts. see for ourselves what had occurred. >> as soon as we land, we walk into the little airport, and there's a whole lot of people. immediately we assumed that they must be some of the people who had fled and we just started talking to them straight away. where were they doing? >> they were shooting people.
9:32 pm
they were shooting at us. and we ran away. >> they were describing really chilling graphic violent scenes. >> we found the people with the gun that was shooting with us. and other people were shouting and people. so we tried to handle it. >> i cannot imagine how terrifying that must have been. i am thinking, maybe this is all the fleeing civilians that we are going to see. so we talk to as many as we possibly could, try to get as many firsthand eyewitness accounts from them. >> how have you managed to eat, and drink? how have you managed to survive? >> it is not easy. it is not easy. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ the only way are going to get
9:33 pm
into, polo is with the military. >> the first place we go to, is the police camp. which is outside palma. and from where they have tried to bring back the militants. we met up with the governor. he introduced himself, and said i am going to take you to a whole new housing area. we had been told that there were many displaced people, who had fled the fighting in parliament. but no one had very accurate ideas of exactly how many people there were there. and as we get closer and closer the crowd got bigger and bigger and bigger. ♪ ♪ ♪ there are an awful lot of
9:34 pm
people here, a lot of them seem to be living rough. it's difficult to tell numbers straightaway. but thousands i would say. definitely thousands. the aid agencies estimated over 20,000 people. i think like us, the governor was absolutely gobsmacked by how many people there were. [inaudible] [noise] for me that was probably the most empowering part of the trip. >> they are all saying how hungry they are more and begging us in the authorities to help them. look at them, they are all
9:35 pm
saying. we want food we want food. >> you can feel the exasperation, the vta, the hunger, and also it's all boiled up. >> we need food. we need food. we need food. we need food. >> they had been there for two weeks. and nothing had been done for them. >> i think, the mozambique government, they appeared to not realize how strong the feeling of discontent was in the area. was in the area the area
9:36 pm
to help prevent bleeding gums, try saying hello gumwash with parodontax active gum health. it kills 99% of plaque bacteria and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash. it's time to say goodbye to appliance heartbreaks. and hello to new quality finds you'll love on wayfair. you can always get the brands you trust. the support you need. and dependability you can count on. plus, get financing up to 60 months on qualifying purchases. fast and free delivery. and installation and haul-away. so with wayfair, you'll always find your perfect match. ♪ wayfair you got just what i need ♪
9:37 pm
9:39 pm
was not expecting to see so many people. there are lots of people there. >> the obvious aim of it all in the reason why we were there was to get into palma. to be able to see where the attack happens. >> if there is any chance where we can land just to see what the terrorists have done. the vandalism and the ransacking. >> this is what was planned to be that. but the security, they are not they are still working there. >> we finally got into the helicopter, and we had been
9:40 pm
told that this was going to be a fly over. so we probably were not going to land. then suddenly the helicopter starts getting closer and closer to the ground. we landed in the middle of a football field. we got out we did not know what to expect. >> we are in palma. and this is now a militarized area. lots of soldiers. [inaudible] we have a quick chat with the soldiers there. without our minder and our chaperone. >> how far the terrorist from? here >> from here? >> are they still in the town? >> yes. >> are they still in the town? they are still in the town. yes. how many? . i'm thinking i'm pretty sure this is not the message the government is trying to put out.
9:41 pm
i do not think it was very long after we were dropped into the perimeter of palma that these people started coming out of the bush. families holding children in babies. and talking about hiding out there for nearly two weeks. and they were hungry. so they were immediately given food and something to drink. not >> the governor starts striding off about significance and i thought oh well we're going into the heart of where we want to go. >> it was very erie.
9:42 pm
this was obviously so recent. there are signs of destruction everywhere. dead animals. we have seen dead bodies, in hallways. almost every one of these buildings has been trashed. this one has been set on fire. this was nearly two weeks, after the attack. no one had felt secure enough to go in and do any of the clearing up at this stage. the damage, and destruction is expensive. come along in here. roof down. building set alight. these are administrative offices. and every house you can see through there has been set a light. this is classic, islamic extremist tactics. favored by isis. it's burning key infrastructure,
9:43 pm
like hospitals, schools, banks, post office, homes. just to terrorize the people. and make them leave. >> this governor was just writing ahead. setting the pace. they did not want to stop for any length of time in any one place. there was a feeling that they were not 100% sure that the place was safe. i mean, it was a former tennis champion apparently, an extremely likable character. a very charismatic character. but there was no waiting around for anybody. this guy was literally just running, hey look over there, hey how are you doing, come look at this. he just did not stop. he had aunts in his pants. i was exhausted. your they're filming everything, trying to gather everything, you just don't know what you're going to get next. we had no idea how long we are going to be there for. you're burning nervous energy as well. >> i thought he was quite frank
9:44 pm
for a politician. >> how can you guarantee it will not happen again? >> this i cannot say. this i cannot say. >> i would put money and most politicians around the world saying, yes we will do our best or he just said straightaway, well no, i can't guarantee that. there was a great deal of suspicion at that time. even on the way out, they have arrested three young men. the soldiers were clearly a bit edgy about why these three young men are fighting age, we're just walking around the area. there was a lot of concern, that because they had been caught so off-guard the first time that it could happen again. let's go place. [noise] i wasn't immediately
9:45 pm
aware of how important the was or the exclusively of it that time. sadly, when we got the pictures back, i realized, actually, yes we are the first international observers there on the ground. >> alex joins me now, now, from the town in mozambique. alec, you pit and paula. do we know where those -- >> i mean that is a fantastically difficult question. and what that the mozambique people want to have answered. >> we realize that that was actually difficult and exclusive opportunity to get on the got to get pictures for the world to see what happened in the aftermath. >> but the mozambique authorities want to find out, what's the mozambique military wants to find out is how did they manage to do this and where have they gone.
9:46 pm
>> we wanted to go and see the barge, which, a lot of people have taken refuge in. including a lot of -- so, a few days later we got, again, another early call to go back. we are at the airport. this area appears to be very secured. they have give us armed guards. they want to take us to the lodge where 70 people were held under siege by the relations. the military were taking a small group of selected journalist. a lot more soldiers it paula at an awful lot more people have tried to encourage them to come back and tried to reassure them that they are safe again. at that, we turned up at the launch.
9:47 pm
sorry, can i just give you that? thank you. >> there have been nearly 200 people trapped there. amongst the, some of the ex workers at ford workers. and they have been under siege with the dislodge. sides of destruction all around. they have bit red sacked, office equipment has been through it everywhere. the soldiers have now set up camp in the middle of the town at outside the lodge. >> when we got into the lodge, it was empty. there was a terrible, terrible small, like bodies. but it was it. it was brought to meet. so all the food stores for the fish and meat were raw take away. at that, just walking go round all these individual roofs with
9:48 pm
stuff scattered on the floor at the mattresses had been taken away. >> broken glass, peoples clothing, this is all over the place. >> you just try and picture what it was like for the people who were held up there for days on and with, you know, and the beast at the gate. >> they said that they were attacking paula. >> we got access to some of the survivors who, not only bandage to survive the attack, but had also filled quite a lot of it on their mobile phones. there was this south african family. two brothers at a father. all three of them had got called out it this seat at the lodge. what happens inside the lodge
9:49 pm
is quite extraordinary. >> the good fire just didn't stop. you are talking about hundreds of borders. it was an incredible tale of fortitude with quite terrible consequences. >> they honestly believed that they were going to be saved and you can see their despair at their frustration growing through these mobile phone clips over the number of days. >> but they realize that no one is coming back to save them, they come up with this desperate clad to meld their old convoy. to bust out of it themselves. , almost as they break out, should it from the extremists who lined up on the side of the road where they do the drivers
9:50 pm
would be, adrian gets shot twice. >> they are trying to stop the blast and i was just putting [inaudible] >> he gets this heartbreaking decision which was very, very vivid it is. by >> that i was just shouting. and i so sorry. i have so sorry that this has happened to him. >> very, very said. very said. and i thought, he did it a credible job bringing home to everybody just how terrifying that must have been. >> i guess humid they turn not to just except potential to. but i felt like i had to do something. you can't blame him. >> they had to take measures into their old hub because nobody was coming to save them. decisions could've been tickets of war to help them, to save
9:51 pm
them, but it didn't happen. t it didn't happen we were filming at the hotel grounds. but that just outside, we were told by local chat that they had helped buried multiple bodies here. >> what happened here? >> it was a horrific seed apparently. there were rotted corpses. so they dug up a large hole and bury the bodies. >> have they taken the out yet? >> see there, there's blood. >> we just wanted to film some of these. it was a huge part of the story. we needed to document that. but as soon as we turned up, the military straightaway strictest away. >> so, apparently, these large patches are dark blood. >> no, no, we need to know what's going on. >> your time is over.
9:52 pm
let's go. >> we managed to get a few words with him as we were walking back. >> -- >> it was just really chaotic. >> these are the ones buried. >> how many are there? >> 12. >> around 12? >> there was a massive start to the story. and they were just trying to drag us as quickly as they could. >> they say all of the were tied. >> no, cut. >> all the bodies that they were fined were tied with their hands behind their back. >> at their heads were cut off? >> thank you. we tried very hard to stand up. the reports of beheading -- but we weren't able to cover the details. >> the truth is, nobody knows how many people were killed in the palma attack.
9:53 pm
and that's why, just be gamble to go there either for a short time to be able to fill, even if it is just a glimpse is so important. because, there is not at their probably will not be a [inaudible] >> i don't think any what came out of this very well. the mozambique politicians did not prevent this from happening. there was a lack of intelligence of the ground at the buildup to this. then, when it did break out, there was not a big robust coordinated response to it. that they did not do enough to rescue nor help people. you cannot actually kill that idea. and isis is using africa to build its tax base. and i think the international communities is going to be caught short again just like they were in iraq and syria if they don't step up and start recognizing these threats of
9:54 pm
extremism it africa is very, definitely not going away. >> next time on hotspots -- >> by t but i go to india as it collapse under the weight of the covid crisis. >> they were scrubbing out -- >> the definition of a hospital struggling to cope. >> people were starting to die in front of. us >> and we're back in brazil with the pandemic is clipping a new title. >> more pregnant women were dying that anywhere else on the planet. >> if you've got 500,000 plus, these figures can be horrendous. >> tell that, you can find us on twitter at alex crawford stall. see you next time. time.
9:55 pm
9:56 pm
oh man, my laces are ruined. the gender reveal was more fun than i thought. get in the back. look, your cousin dared me. i had no choice. my cousin is twelve. this is your captain speaking... 'cause they're like... captain's chairs? to be fair, i did say heads up. to be fair, you're sleeping on the couch. hey mercedes, change lighting to baby blue. i think you're actually more annoying back there. get up here. the mercedes-benz gls. perfect bliss wherever you sit. i'm gonna grab the handle now. ( ♪♪ ) ( ♪♪ ) ( ♪♪ ) good morning, it is 5 am.
10:00 pm
this is the early rundown making news today. missiles continue to strike ukraine rejects russia's demands to surrender the besieged city of mariupol. in massive explosions in a shopping mall in the ukrainian capital of kyiv authorities say at least four people have been killed. the u.s. president joe biden will visit poland later this week for talks with
76 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC West Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on