of course, it takes more than just dressing the part to be a good leader. every day, we see zelenskyy on the ground in ukraine, he meets with his troops, and he publicly grieves with his people. while putin, on the other hand, is known for keeping everyone at a distance, an extreme distance. two very different profiles in leadership. and on that note, i wish you all a good night. from our colleagues at nbc news thanks for staying up late with us. see you at the end of tomorrow.

as western countries start t race to round up all the super yachts that are owned by russian billionaires, to sanction them and seize thei assets for their support o russia's invasion in ukraine journalists have been trying t figure out to whom this charad might belong and now, after a lot o speculation, we seem to be muc closer to an answer. these two russian anti corruption activists have just released an incredibly detaile report which they say proves that the owner of this mystery super yacht is not just an russian billionaire, but vladimir putin himself

the activists obtained documents that show the names, passport numbers, and of the crew that works on this yacht, except for the captain, ever single person who works on the boat's russian which is not unusual in and of themselves, but many of them are employed by russia's federal protective services, the fso, which is essentiall russia's version of the secret service. the people who have this yacht happen to be th same people who are listed a vladimir putin security guards and his personal staff now, imagine if it turned ou that a ministry boat off the coast of delaware was teemin with secret service agents, wh also happened to be on president biden security detail well, the logical assumption would be that that was biden's boat that is the same case that these activists are making these activists have done this kind of exposé before, o vladimir putin, and people close to him take a look on the neon sign hanging behind them.

it says, navalny, as an alexei navalny. russia's primary oppositio leader who was poisoned an almost murdered by the russian government alexei navalny is currentl serving a prison sentence on bogus charges. his original sentence was abou three years, and it was mean to expire next year. well today, a russian judg added nine more years to his sentence again, based on trumped up charges, meant to silence him. this new sentence allows officials to move him to a mor remote, high security prison which will make it mor difficult for him to communicate with his family an his lawyer, and his supporters who are legion and yet here are navalny's fellow pro democracy advocates doing the diligent work of uncovering corruption in the russian government because, at this point, it doesn't really matter how long putin keeps navalny in jail, these activists ended the vide by saying, quote, subscribe to this channel, we tell the trut

here, free navalny what navalny started has led t deep roots, the anti-putin anti-corruption, anti-wa movement in russia is strong and growing even with it strongest leader behind bars today, russia toughened it so-called fake news law, the one that makes it illegal fo anyone inside russia t criticize the ukraine invasion russia also launched a crimina investigation into a journalis who committed the high crime o posting online about the russian bombing of ukrainian maternity hospitals. these fresh crackdowns on free speech, and the opposition movement in russia it's hard to see that anything but putin trying to control th message within his borders, at a time when his invasion int neighboring ukraine is ver much not going the way he ha hoped. today, ukrainian officials say they have regained control of town, about 30 miles west of

kyiv, called makariv after the invasion began russian officials had fought hard enough to take over tha town, but now ukraine has take over it back officials say they hung th blue and yellow flag over th town, defense department officials say russia's advance towards ukraine's capita remains completely stalled russian troops are still mor than nine miles beyond the northwest part of kyiv, an more than 18 miles from th eastern edge of the capitol. which is basically exactly where they were a week ago there are reports of russian soldiers suffering fro frostbite, because they have not been outfitted with th proper gear. the pentagon said today that the russian military has los more than 10% of the comba forces that were set to invade ukraine u.s. officials say tha for the first time russian forces have begun shelling the port city of mariupol, not fro the ground, but from the water which is a sign that their ground forces continue t struggle to gain and maintai new ground and so, for the people i

ukraine trying to beat bac russia's assault on thei nation that is the good news but for the people who are still in ukraine, every day is a repeat of the same nightmare nbc's gabe gutierrez has thi report, tonight. >> it seems unreal, it's becom a bleak existence. this is the dark frigi basement where a dozen familie crowd together each nigh huddled by candlelight, fueled by defiance. >> when the bombing is going you never know where it will drop >> victoria works for a charit in chernihiv, that's i northern ukraine near belarus. russian troops surrounded th city, but it's hanging on. so are other cities like mariupol in kharkiv. >> this is not a war between ukraine and russia, this is war between light and darkness between goodness and evil we

are determined to protect ou land, and to stay here >> many others have not stayed more, from ravaged cities in lviv arriving today, natalie i from kyiv, surrounding russian troops on three sides sh decided to get out with he family before it's too late. others are making th remarkable choice to return. >> a humanitarian corridor opened up today, and this trai has been loaded up wit supplies and people who ar heading back east, to pick u loved ones >> this woman is coming back from poland to care for he sick father in eastern ukraine this mother is returning wit her young daughter this is my country, she says firmly refugees now top three and a half million, as a volunteer train conductor sergei has see a lot of them, defiance in places like mariupol weigh heavily on him >> right now, it's a stronghol

of freedom, it's a stronghol of all democracy >> stronghold of all democracy in the world, nbc's gabe gutierrez reporting tonigh from ukraine today, the french government announced that there is stil appear to be no cease fire going in place that could halt the fighting in ukraine. russia ratcheted up tensio today, saying the countr refuses to rule out the use of nuclear weapons. as long as it is facing but it is vaguely defining, as an existential threat. the u.s. national security advise warned today that, the war would not end easily or rapidl which is becoming more and mor apparent every day, as we clos out day 27 of this brutal war. joining us now live from lvi is nbc correspondents al arouzi ali, thank you for being up at this hour with us, it seem like ukrainian troops ar pushing back against russian forces in certain areas of the country, even though russi continues to bomb by the citie and cause heavy damage, what are you hearing about wher

things are tonight >> that's right, ali, that's i the suburbs of kyiv, some of the russian troops have made advances and occupy small part of subarbs in kyiv and i northwest, in bucha, but i other parts in the west of the city, russian troops had mad advances, but the cranes fough back hard as, as you mentioned in your report and took back certain areas in the eastern parts of kyiv. that's because, ali, kyiv is a city on a heel, it's heavily fortified, it's streets an roads are very narrow, makin it very hard for russian tanks and heavy armor to maneuve their way around their of course, because they've bee held met by fierce resistanc by the ukrainian forces trying to defend their capital, where president zelenskyy is still standing, and putting out thes very strong messages to hi armed forces and to the people

despite a big push by th russians trying to encircl kyiv, they haven't been able t do it. that is one of their mai objectives, to take the capital, and other major strategi places like mariupol >> let's talk about where yo prefer a second, the image that we have seen this evening out a mariupol, and literall for the last several days, mak the place look like hell o earth. you've recently spoke with someone who's made it out of there just in the last few days >> >> that's right, mariupol is the most hard hit and destroye city in ukraine, they have taken the brunt of the russian artillery, missiles, and bombs because it's such a strategi place for the russians it would create a land corrido to the donbas region, if the were to take mariupol, it woul connect russia to crime area and that would be a huge

victory for the russians they haven't been able t capture mariupol, and that has made russian commanders resort to medieval siege an starvation tactics and they've caused a humanitarian crisis and wher you pull, incredibly, they blamed the ukrainian people fo the humanitarian crisis, because they wouldn't commit she late and give up their city the people of mariupol are without food, withou electricity, without running water, without heating, withou gas. all the people we have spoke to paint a horrifying pictur of what is going on in tha city i spoke to a young lady wh managed to escape mariupol a couple of days ago, let's take a listen to what she had t say. >> when i was going to sleep, was crying and havin nightmares every night, becaus i was afraid that i would just die here we were even discussing with m family, hoping that if we di

it will be fast and no painful. we hope not to die from hunger, because it woul be much easier to die mediately. my sister told me that if we run out of food, we will commi suicide together >> it was really difficult t listen to that interview wit her, ali, it was reall heartbreaking. she told me that when they wer escaping mariupol, they were met by russian checkpoints, th russian soldiers taunting them laughed at them, to what the had done in their city, sh managed to escape with a pai of trainers and her laptop, to get out of that city, and some of her family members. but for others there who remai in that city, it's a devastating situation, and the feeling is that the russians are going to continue thei

relentless bombing of that city making little distinctio between the military force there, and the civilia population that is still tryin to hold on to their city not least of all because it is so financially important t this country all of ukraine's coal, corn, and steel is shipped across th world from mariupol. if they're not going to be abl to do that, that's all going t economically strangle the city so, a devastating situation, not only from a humanitarian point of view, but from financial point of view fo this country, as well. >> ali, what a thing to hear them make a suicide pact i they didn't think they would make it out of the city. thank you for your amazing reporting. ali arouzi is live for us in lviv, this late night. in just a minute, i'm going to be talking live with someone who just escaped from mariupol with his family, that intervie will be after this first, i want to get som thoughts from a military analyst on what we witnessed

today on day 27 of russia' invasion of ukraine. joining me now is rob lee, he' a former marine corps infantry officer, and an expert o russian defense policy he is currently a senior fello at the foreign policy research institute, mister lee, thank you for joining us, it's goo to see this evening. i want to ask you about senior pentagon official telling reporters, today, that the russian military has los more than 10% of its comba power that was sent into ukraine, there is no indicatio that reinforcements are been brought in from russia we do know that they've been trying to recruit people int the military talk to be about this idea o losing 10% of your fightin force. in military terms, that' actually a turning point >> yeah, it's significan because -- he wants to see cities, he wants to circle cities probably odessa, and they want to further degrade the ukrainian military

in every single, white rushe facing attrition, and the more it sets, and the mor limitations they have. can ashley take big cities a kyiv which would require additional casualties. the figures we're seeing - this is being backed up by ope source information on a number of destroyed or captured vehicles, all that's indicatin that russia is going to really struggle with further offensiv operations, for weeks and week of the time. they're facing a number of limitations at this point. >> the kremlin does a report o how many russian troops have died, they do give out numbers but they tend to be very low we get much higher numbers o the ukrainian government we had a very middle of th road estimate from u.s intelligence yesterday, a pro kremlin new outfit briefly reported that 10,000 soldiers have bee killed suddenly back reference wa quickly removed by the website what do you make of that these numbers sound really remarkable for a major, long standing army like the russian army

>> yeah, it's hard to tell it could be just a hack, i could be an influence operatio for the ukrainians, wh obviously know what they'r doing in terms of intelligence or it could've just been a mistake and the actual factual information that was published it's hard to tell. we know the russian military i taking the heavy casualties, w can see this from destroye vehicles, from destroyed convoys. -- it's not something they face i the -- in 2014 2015 ukraine, it was - after week in ukraine this time, is greater than the last three wars combined. that was weeks ago, and now th figures are obviously much greater. so even if that figure, i don' know the veracity of it, but

it's somewhere in the ballpark of what the actual casualt figures are. we talk about that, that's a substantial share of the russian invasion force not kind of attrition, i really affects wet russian forces can do at this point, t limit the goals they can achieve. >> let me ask you about ai support, and air force the ukrainians do have an ai force, they do have traine pilots, the new york times had some interesting reporting about the ukrainian air force, and how it's operating in, quote, but the times says, nea total secrecy. one of the pilots they spoke t said, quote, in every figh with russian jets, there is no equality, they always have fiv times more planes in the air despite being outnumbered, ukrainian paul pilots have bee successful at preventing wider bombings they've intercepted some missiles talk to me about this, they ar vastly outnumbered by russia ships, how is the outlook fo the air force in ukraine >> so, that's one thing, it' not fully known, it's kind o hard to tell from the sources. partially because i think they wanted that way. but they're making lif difficult for russia in terms of invasion, fo

russia, they want to have thei supremacy, where they have fir aircraft, bomber aircraft, operating over ukrainian force at all times, being able t bomb, them the reconnaissance, all this kind of things. and we can't do that effectively are now, because ukraine's air defenses still attacked also because ukrainian air force is still operating, an still contesting the environment. all that makes it more difficult for russian air force, and really key part of this is that introduction missions, really key mission that th russian air force would like t take part, it would includ preventing ukrainians from reinforcing locations, resuppl in cities, all this kind o things it's clear that not able to do that very effectively. probably likely part of this i because ukrainians are still operating, and still making th environment contested, and making life difficult fo russian air force, which i

still part of the reason why ukraine is resisting still today, and why they're still having success >> rob, thank you for your analysis, we appreciate it probably is a former marin corps infantry officer, we appreciate your time tonight we're also keeping an ey tonight on the senate confiden hearings for ketanji brown-jackson, there is stil underway we will have more on that just ahead in just a minute,, we ar going to talk live with someon who just escaped from th hard-hit ukrainian city of mariupol, stay with us alone, you may be missing a critical piece. preservision. preservision areds 2 contains the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. "preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies" "and its from the eye experts at bausch and lomb" so, ask your doctor about adding preservision. and fill in a missing piece of your plan. like i did with preservision"

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that are in the sea of azov. mariupol is a crucial port tha lies on a swath of land, between crimea, which russia has illegally annexed, and russia itself. if the area around it were seized, russia would have land bridge linking all of the ukrainian territory is that it controls many have fled, but as russi ramps up its devastating attacks, 100,000 people remain trapped, with no safe place to leave. those who have managed to make it out of mariupol are now sharing their cities o devastation and survival sky news's sally lockwood spok to one of them in lviv >> alina managed to escape five days ago. >> there are lots of people in mariupol, now, you cannot even imagine how many children ar there. they brought a six-day old and a three months old in th shelter, there are so many o them in the neighboring house, to little orphans became orphans, and watch their father dying

and the neighbors took the men they are still in mariupol because they cannot leave. >> alina only learned he apartment had been bombed afte seeing this image online the fourth floor from the to was her home until a few day ago. >> my next guess also decide to leave that city with hi family, after their home was destroyed by the russians. joining us now is arturo shevchenko, he's a programmers escape the city mariupol t western ukraine on friday, wit his family mr. shevchenko, thank you fo making time to be with u tonight. i don't know what this mus meet feel like to you, looking at these images, hearing these stories of your home town, and your home been destroyed >> i, thank you for having me. this is true, it's terrible to see, what is happening >> tell me about how you got out, and what that experienc

was like, how did you make the decision, how did you actually do it? this is a city that does hav power, water, and electricity, and tell me about the journe out. >> we had no electricity at all, no water, etc, so it was so -- chase to taken because there i no humanitarian corridor,' russia refused to make them. the only choice was to drive from the city by car, no buses >> and, as you were leaving, were able to get out, did yo see russian troops >> yeah, there were a lot of russian troops on the way. >> yeah. there were a lot of russia troops along the way there were a lot of differen nationalities. the russian set up their people, but there were a lot of othe

nations, not slavic, on thei troops >> tell us about your home i mariupol, what happened to it? >> our neighbors were killed at 4 am in the morning a it hit their window. my flat was without any windows, as well as other flats i left mariupol four days ago. i don't know what's there, possibly, the houses are burne down >> we've been hearing from people from mariupol who are not able to be in contact with those people they have lef behind, their friends in their family, because as you sai they are out of electricity an gas. have you been able to speak to anybody, obviously, you've got friends and family who are still in that city >> yeah, actually, today, my friend called me

he was in a district where a lot of russian troops who were it was very scary, and at this moment the only choice he ha was to walk by foot throug this shelling area, to get t the c district - and to be able to leave th city it is really dangerous to. >> what do you think it's goin to happen to that city the russians have not succeede in taking control of it, yet but they have devastated it, and they continue to kee selling it >> i guess it will burn down to ashes, because the firs days without the russians, the wanted to invade the city, t have a victory over people inside but, at the latest, understood that they jus wanted to destroy it >> what do you plan to do now? you got out with your family

what happens next? >> it is hard to tell because, we had a lot of informatio about the troops, possible invasion, and in this case i will be harder for ukraine i have even my family, really don't know what will be next no idea. >> how is your family doing? >> they are good we have apparent with us, we took her with us to this tri out of the city. i have here my grandfather his 80 years old, he is disabled s he cannot walk it was really tough trip, it's because 1000 kilometers. >> wow, arturo, thanks for

joining, us it is a middle of night for you in western ukraine. we hope you and your famil stay safe, and i'm sorry for what you've had to go through, artur shevchenko is programmer who's escape th city mariupol of this family we appreciate your tim tonight. coming up, we are gonna go t the senate, where the suprem court justice nominee ketanj brown jackson has been carryin questions from republicans for the last 12 hours. that is next as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel— cut. liberty biberty— cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for whatchya... line? need. action. cut. you can't say that. [phone rings] sorry. is this where they're gonna put the statue of liberty? liberty... are we married to mutual? cut. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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thorough understanding of he approach to any case before he as a judge a useful way for america to ge to know judge jackson who coul eventually be the first blac woman on the supreme court so, it was notable, if not entirely surprising, when couple of republican senator decided to veer into this line of questioning >> did you know that joe biden actively filibustered janice rogers brown

>> i did not know that >> did you know that he told face the nation, if bush nominates her for the suprem court, i can assure you that would be a very, very, ver difficult fight, and she probably would be filibustered is that news to you too? >> yes >> did you notice that peopl from the left were pretty much cheering you on? >> a lot of people wer cheering me on, senator. >> that's true, that's true. did you know a lot of people from the left were trying to destroy michelle childs? did you notice that? >> senator, a lot of peopl were supporting various people for this nomination. >> so you're saying you didn't know there was concerted effor to disqualify judge chiles fro south carolina because she was a union busting, unreliabl republican in disguise you didn't know that all those

people were declaring war on judge chiles >> i did not >> senators lindsey graham o south carolina, or senator lindsey graham from sout carolina used his time today t ask judge jackson about the th treatment of other black jurists who were not sitting before them. one republican senator determined to her actual judicial record, they fixate on her time representing guantánamo prisoners and her decisions on child pornography cases. she denied the charge that she had been lenient in thos cases. but they're a lot of questions about republican accusations about her sentencing decisions the relevance of her time as a public defender. i know just whom to ask abou them joining us now is janai nelson president and director counsel of the naacp defense a education fund miss nelson, thank you for being with us tonight. i am puzzled by senator graham

and senator john cornyn of texas'line of questionin today. which is asking judge jackso to offer her opinions about th treatment and the process that other black jurist's wen through. what is the point of that line of questioning >> it was assumed to be th playbook for many of the republican senators during tha hearing, and that was to air their grievances about eithe previous hearings or about other potential nominees tha they perhaps would've supporte more than they support the ver eminently qualified ketanj brown jackson. either way, it was an appallin display of disrespect to ask her to opine on the treatmen of other black women in th process. in many ways, it was pitting black women against one anothe and asking her to offer he opinion about the treatment or the vetting process. and she really had n responsibility for it.

and they wrongly characterized as an assault on these two individuals. however, it turned out, in terms of whether they move forward or didn't, had nothing to do with the qualification of ketanji brown-jackson which was the only subject tha was relevant at today' hearing. so what we saw was a very nast exercise in trying to create discord among professional highly qualified women, blac women, who should not be maligned in any way. and it was very disappointin to see them try to play that tactic and certainly inappropriate fo a hearing of the sort. >> let me ask you about senato ted cruz's decision to ask her -- ask judge jackson, about a reference to nicole hannah jones's piece of journalism, called the 16 19 project he was holding up books from a georgetown school on which he' a board, a private board, of which is a member of the board

and he was trying to pin her down on critical race theory tell me about what you exten observed in that exchange. >> it seems that he though that we would all be impressed by the theater and the promise that he brought in to try to link her to this 19 project an to the renowned acclaimed awar winning journalist, and should say ldl climate, nikole hannah-jones i think that judge jackson explained quite clearly -- it's part of the zeitgeist around issues of race currently, and she raised it in a speec to students who would clearl be interested in net we know that the 16 19 project is a very popular project an text because of the number one times bestseller that' occupied the front for man weeks. she referenced the author, the actual organizer of the project, nikole hannah-jones, but tha has nothing again, to do wit her qualifications as a judge.

it has nothing to do with th decisions that she wrote or an of the judgments that she' issued, or any of he professional work. it's not to say that it's of limits to questions someone' speech or oratory writings outside of third judicia background but to ascribe a negativ intention to it, or but or to scribe of particular viewpoint to it was again, beyond th pale, and completely unjustified. what we saw today was an attempt to assail the characte of ketanji brown jackson because her record itself is s good, they're grasping a straws, they're trying to find some way to make her see unqualified and the failed miserably. >> may i ask you to stay wit

us, i want to dip into these hearings right now they are still continuing. senator marsha blackburn o tennessee is now questioning judge ketanji brown-jackson. if you don't mind staying with me let's listen >> she's a mom and grandma, an she is - this is a question that is important to her, to look at life and senator feinstein talked about that issue with you little earlier today you've also said today that it would be an appropriate for yo to show your views on politica issues or issues that ma become - may come before the court, lik abortion but i want to go to you on something you said when yo were in private practice you made your views on pro-lif and the pro-life movement very clear. in fact, you attacked pro-life

women. and this was in a brief that you wrote. you described them, and i am quoting, hostile, noisy crow of in your face protesters end quote. and you advocated against thes women's first amendment righ to express their sincerely hel views regarding the sanctity o each individual live i'm a pro-life woman 79% of the american wome support restrictions of some type on abortion and so, i find it incredibly concerning that someone who is nominated to a position with life tenure on the supreme court holds such a hostile vie toward a view that is held as mainstream belief that every

life is worth protecting so, how do you justify tha incendiary rhetoric agains pro-life women >> thank you senator the brief you are referring to was a brief that i filed o behalf of clients who were clients of my law firm this is in i believe, goodness 1999 or 2000 - maybe 2000 or 2001 i was an associate at a la firm and i had a palle experience because i had jus finished my supreme court la clerk position, and in the context of my law firm, i wa asked to work on a brief

concerning a buffer zone issue in massachusetts at a time there were laws protecting women who wanted to ente clinics, and there was a first amendment question about the degree to which there had to b room around them to enter th clinic >> i understand all of that. >> i understand all of that. i am asking about the rhetoric >> senator, i drafted a brie along with the partners in m law firm who reviewed it and we filed it on behalf of our clients. to advanced our client arguments that they wanted t make in the case >> let me ask you this, when you go to church, knowin they're pro-life women there do you look at them thinking o them in that way, that they ar noisy, hostile, in your face do you think of pro-life women

like me in that way? >> senator, that was a statement in a brief made fo my argument, it's not the wa that i think of or characteriz people >> thank you for the clarification. even zealous advocacy doesn' allow that type of rhetoric on a free speech issue. roe v. wade, let's talk little bit about that. it's come up a touch today in my opinion, that was an awful act of judicial activism and it has cost the lives of over 63 million unborn children nearly 50 years later, the shameful ruling remains bindin precedent, but the battle is being fought in the courts as you know, and as we

discussed when we visited th supreme court, it' reconsidering whether th constitution protects the righ to an abortion in dobbs. and, if you are confirms, yo will be in a position to apply the court's decision in dobbs. whatever that decision is goin to be, and you've talked about following precedent, and wha the court decides. do you commit to respecting th courts decision if it rule that roe was wrongly decided and that the issue of abortion should be sent back to the states >> senator, whatever the supreme court decides in dobbs will be the precedent of the supreme court, it will b worthy of respect in the sense that it is the precedent, and commit to treating it as i would any other president.

>> there's one other thing, on of the central issues in the dobbs case is about whether th constitution protects the righ to an abortion let's talk about that. can you explain to me, on constitutional basis, th courts decision in row and where is abortion protected in the constitution >> senator, abortion is a righ that the supreme court has recognized in -- its one of the kinds of rights that is an enumerated, it is i the same category of write that the same supreme court ha recognized - >> but the text of the constitution does not mentio abortion >> that is true. >> correct, so you agree tha

the constitution does no mention the right side o pushing, and yet through one o the most brazen acts o judicial activism, our supreme court created the rights through roe v. wade. this is why americans, this is why it's so many women who hav talked to are really concerned about who sits on the federa bench, we need injustice who will adhere to the text of the constitution we've talked a little bit abou that today, as you've talked about the historical context, don't want justices who ar going to invents writes out of whole cloth, to serve political in trust let's move on, when you are at harvard, your thesis entitle the hand of oppression, plea bargaining processes in that piece, you argued that

judges have, and i'm quoting personal hidden agendas that influence how they decid places so what's personal hidde agendas do you harbor, or do you think other judges harbor? >> thank you senator, that lined to the extent that i appears in my thesis, wa written by someone who had not gone to law school, and by his senior in college, who had spent a summer at an internshi working and making observation in the context of criminal justice internship it is not a view that i hold >> we'll lead you to tha belief >> i am thinking back, it' been 30 years --

but the summer before my senio year, i interned at a public defenders office in new york and i was part of a team o lawyers and interns on thi team, and they were handling misdemeanor cases. >> so, it was from a internship experience. >> before i became a lawyer. >> let's go to something else. senator cruz was discussin with you, and i think this i important, it's something that parents all across the country are worried about, and that is the progressive indoctrination of their children, and the pushing of critical race theor in the schools you told senator cruz that as board member of the georgetown de school, you didn't have any control over what was taught a the school no control over curriculum, an you weren't aware and that the school was pushing crt

but, i would think that ther would have been parents that came to you and said, have you seen these books, are you awar that this is being taught? being on that school board >> i'm, no senator georgetown day school is a private school, it's not a public school. >> i'm fully aware and you mentioned that you said, that you thought he meant that critical race theory isn't being taught in public schools correct? but, we know that's not th case we know that critical race theory is been pushing our k through 12 schools, and i've got a letter here, miste chairman, that senator tuberville and i wrote las year to the national education association on this issue, i'd like to submit that to the record, because it's relevan

to our discussion. >> without objection >> we had i manage the ante for adopting crt materials during their annual organizing meetings, and proposing to spend $127,000 impeachers dues to combat opponents of critica race theory. there are countless reports of crt being pushed in the public school system, and a lot o parents that i work with every day, every week, don't have th funds to send their child to a private school they are relying on the school systems, the public school systems, and it is important t them to have a supreme court that is going to protect parental rights to teach these children, as parents see fit t have their children taught i will tell you, too, with

georgetown de school, i foun it astounding that it teache kindergartners, five-year-ol children i've got grandchildren, an they teach them that they ca choose their gender. so is this why you wer praising, when you applauded and i'm quoting you, transformative power o georgetown de school progressive education. do you believe our schoo should teach children that the can choose their gender? >> senator, i'm not rememberin exactly what quote you are referencing, but georgetown de school >> it was in a book, and you gave the quote

>> georgetown de school, is private school >> i'm asking if you agree tha schools can teach children tha they can choose their gender >> senator, i'm not making comments about what's school can teach. >> let me ask you this then, united states versus virginia, the supreme court struck dow vmas mail only admission - writing for the majority justin skin spoke stated supposed inherent difference are no longer accepted as ground for race or nationa origin classifications physical differences between men and women, however, ar enduring the two sexes are not fungible i community made up exclusivel of one sex is different from a community composed of both do you agree with justic

ginsburg, that there are physical differences between men and women that are enduring? >> senator, respectfully, i' not familiar with that particular quote or case, so it's hard for me to comment -- >> all right, i'd love to ge your opinion on that, and yo can submit that. do you interpret justice ginsburg's meaning of men an women as male and female >> i again, because i don' know the case, i don't know ho i interpret, i need to read th whole thing. >> can you provide a definitio for the word woman >> can i provide a definition? i can't. >> you can't >> not in this context, i'm no a biologist.

>> the meaning of the word win it is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition >> senator, in my work as judge, but i do is i address disputes if there is a dispute about definition, people mak arguments, and i look at the law, and i decide. >> well, the fact that you can't give me a straight answe about something as fundamental as when a woman's, and underscores the dangers of the kind of progressive educatio that we are hearing about. just last week, an entir generation of young girls, watched as our taxpayer funded institutions permitted a biological man to compete an beat a biological woman in the ncaa swimming championships. what message do you think this

sends to girls, who aspire t compete and win in sports at the highest levels >> senator, i'm not sure wha message that sense, if you'r asking me about the lega messages associated with, it those are topics that are bein hotly discussed, as you say, and could come to the court. so i'm unable to - >> i think it helped tells other girls that their voice don't matter, i think it tells them that they are second-clas citizens, and parents want t have a supreme court justice who is committed to preserving parental autonomy, and protecting our nations children so, let's move on, i want to g to the child porn issue. i know that it's, we discuss this today on several differen times, what is troubled to m

is your consistent pattern o sentencing these predators below these sentence recommended by the government, and the sentencing guidelines. senator cruz, senator hawley >> senator marshall blackbur of tennessee is questionin judge can congee brown jackson is part of the two of th hearings, which are not over yet. we still continue, we have bee listening to some of the unusual line of questionin today, this isn't really questioning, she was asking he about judge jackson abou whether she can define when woman is, there's been a lot o concentration on trend's gendered people there's been lots of attention to critica race theory and matters like that, that is more of what w can expect this evening as i continues tomorrow for now, that does it for us we are going to see you agai tomorrow, but now it's time to hand it over to lawrence o'donnell for the last word.