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good morning, kyiv, brazen and breath taking, coming before parliament next week and change the law to ensure companies cannot pay less than minimum wage. and it is predicted that more than 800 workers who were sacked will get their jobs back.
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we will have labor's take in just a few minutes. it's friday, the 25th of march. time to go to the transport secretary, talking to the p & o, knowingly broke the law. >> knowingly breaking the law, with brazen, breath taking, incredible arrogance. >> also ahead, the pentagon warns that russia's attacks will get more indiscriminate. with precision-guided missiles. i'm in the western city of lviv where so many ukrainian families have fled in search of safety. for man two million of them have crossed the boarder from here in poland where president biden is expected to see the crisis for himself today. here's president joe biden
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as he heads to poland this morning to see for himself the impact of the refugee crisis caused by russia's invasion. former iranian hostage tells sky news his calls for help were ignored. and the chances of making the finals in qatar in the world cup, wales on the brink of the first world cup appearance since 1958. ♪ to the pomp and circumstance to demanding reparations for
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slavery. good morning. in the last hour, the transport secretary has told this program that the boss of b & o has shown brazen and breath taking arrogance, should quit. he will come before parliament next week and close loopholes in the law to ensure ferry operators cannot pay less than the minimum wage. >> first of all, i thought what the boss of p & o said yesterday about knowingly breaking the law was brazen and pregnant taking and certainly incredible arrogance, and i cannot believe that he can say in that role, stay in that role, having admitted to deliberately go out and use a loophole, not only break the law but use a loophole and what we will do about it is come to parliament this coming week with a package of measures which would both close every possible loophole that exists,
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and force them to re-hire. we will not have people from british ports with regular routes from here and france and here and holland and where else and failing to pay the minimum wage. it's simply unacceptable and we will force that to change. >> just to be cler then, when you said earlier, he cannot in his role believe that and you're calling for him to leave and she go right now. >> yes. >> i'm joined by david lamby, thank you for your time on sky news, and i know you're in berlin and we will move on to the crisis of ukraine shortly but i want to get your reaction on what he said, do you believe the boss of p & o should go right now? >> yes, i do agree with what he said. what is happening is an outrage. happening at an incredibly tough time for people with rising
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inflation anyway. but i have to say, the government changing the law around hire and rehire was unacceptable in the first place and i think it set up the circumstances in which ordinary hard-working people could be treated in this way. we will scrutinize the legislation, and he said he's coming forward with it, and frankly it shouldn't have taken this in the first place. >> and when i spoke to him earlier, he was calling for cross-party support to get the process through parliament quicker. will labor support that? >> let's look at the bill that he said that he's been enforcing. we will have to see the details. we'll scrutinize. it and of course we'll support where we can. but i would be surprised if we aren't asking quite searching questions as a result of this in the first place. >> in terms of when mr. shatz was aware of the situation in
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ukraine, we're getting some conflicting news. the boss yesterday said actually mr. shatz was made aware of this in november, he has denied that, but if we do get information later on that says the opposite, that actually any resignations that come out that says mr. shatz did in fact know about this in november, as was said to mps yesterday, do you think that will make his role untenable? >> yes. because he had lied. and we have to live in a country where we expect ministers in the event that they're found not to be telling the truth to resign and to go. so i hope that is not the situation for him. if he's in that situation, i am afraid he would have to go. >> and please spread out for us what labor would do to close the loophole which allowed 800 people to be sacked on the spot by p & o?
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>> labor has been campaigning for a very, very long time, and this came out during the pandemic, when we had other major employers sack people summarily, and then re-hire people at significantly lower rates. we've been campaigning, supported by many on fire and rehire and we would absolutely outlaw that practice. that has been absolutely crystal clear now for many, many months indeed. >> let's move on now to matters concerning ukraine. and what's labor's positions on tanks and planes being given to the country? >> look, i think that it is absolutely right, yesterday, for ian stoltenberg, for joe biden and for others to set up very, very clearly that we would continue to support ukraine with lethal weapons, to deal with the assault that they are now
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facing. i think that is the assessment of nato allies, and i'm here in germany speak together germans about it, it's an assessment to cross nato, anti-tank missiles and anti-air weaponry that's hugely important. there are huge logistics involved with supplying tanks and supplying aircraft that the ukrainians themselves are equipped to use, given at that stage, vladimir putin has not gotten control of the skies across ukraine, it's the ability to take down aircraft where they are seen and absolutely to deal with tanks that's required, and that missile equipment has come from the united kingdom and it's come of course from the united states. >> should we commit the 1% of nato's fire power that president zelenskyy has asked for? >> well, i think that broadly,
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president zelenskyy has been pleased with the response that he's got from the u.k. there are different capabilities across the 13 nato countries, all of them assessing what more they can do at this time, and i think it's hugely important to remember that vladimir putin has not met his military objectives. he thought effectively that this war would be over by now, and what he's met with dogged resistance, and ukrainians equipped to deal with the threat that they are facing. we have now got to gird ourselves for more of this over many weeks and sadly many months. and of course, you've heard the real concerns about the release of chemical weapons and the scenario planning that nato allies are doing if that eventuality were to come to
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pass. >> and very shortly, we're waiting to hear from president joe biden who is speaking alongside ursula. >> the labour party had been pushing the u.k. government on sanctions every single stage, and there's more to do. more oligarchs to name. more to do in dealing with family members. more to do with addressing issues that come to pass. more to do with more sectors of the economy, continuing to see much more banks cut out effectively, this is russian banks cut out of the international system, so yes, labor would say that there's more to do on sanctions, and that we have moved too slowly, but of course, we recognize that there were more commits made by
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the government in the last few day, commitments made by the government in the last few days and we do see falling currency problems in russia now, and reserves being cut and that is result of the united action across the eu and including the u.k. >> foreign secretary, thanks for your time. and what do you make of what he had to say? i mean reflect on what he said at the top on p & o, he echoes what was said. >> exactly that. he once again called for the chief executive of p & o to resign. he had very strong words. brazen, breath taking, and arrogant. of course, the big question is what are the legal levers the government can pull. and on that, we heard being said
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that total laws on fire and rehire and also maritime laws, minimum wage being paid on international waters and this is something that is different than that and at the center of that and what grant shatz said last week, will be announcing plans to make sure people working on the ferries to be paid minimum wage and that means that 800 people who lost their jobs unceremoniously isn't really clear. they're already taking those packages that have been offered by p & o. so if this doesn't help them, perhaps it will make a difference in the future and i think the focus now will be what happens next for the 800 people who have lost their jobs in this extraordinary way. >> thank you. now, the latest minister of defense intelligence update suggests ukrainian resistance is pushing back russian forces.
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the minister of defense says ukraine is now reoccupying town and defensive positions up to 20 miles east of kyiv, pushing back russian forces. the airfield has been a key battle ground so far. ukrainian forces are continuing they're tems to, they're tempts to push russia back towards it. russia is trying to circumvent mikhailaiv on the way to ukraine's third largest city odesa, and logistical issues and ukrainian resistance are hampering progress. we have more from lviv in western ukraine. sadly there, the frustrations you can absolutely see from president zelenskyy one month into the war. >> yes, that's right, president zelenskyy has welcomed the
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sanctions, brought against russia, by western allies, and of course, welcoming additional military support announced by nato yesterday but it falls short of the complete boycott president zelenskyy wants to see on russian energy being bought by the west, as well as of course, that no-fly zone that he's been repeatedly calling for, because that threat from the air, we've seen probably at its most stark over the southern city of mariupol which has been completely obliterated in the last month. that's something that nato will not agree to, because of course it would be seen as escalation, and putin has already warned that he would view nato as a direct participant of this war if they were to supply much-needed jets to ukraine or indeed impose a no fly zone. but certainly, president biden at the meeting with eu commission president ursula von der leyen about this issue is trying to ween europe off the reliance on russian energy and
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we're hoping to hear some sort of announcement from them very shortly and president biden is making his way to poland to meet american troops based near the border there as well as some ukrainian refugees. of course, more than a quarter of the country has been made homeless since the start of this war. half of the country's children have been driven from their homes, and president biden will see the crisis for himself, first-hand, later, in poland. but one thing that president biden has said is that if russia uses chemical weapons in ukraine, well, nato would respond in kind. no one knows quite what he means by that, but certainly, there is a growing concern here that that may be something we see being used by russia, as we move to the next phase of this war, russia is running low in supply of precision-guided missiles, and it is also a grave concern that they could turn to more reliance on unguided bombs, dumb
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bombs as they're known, which have far less precision and far more likelihood of hitting civilian areas and it certainly does feel like we're moving to the more concerning second phase of this war. >> in lviv western ukraine, thank you. with me now is ukrainian svetlana in western ukraine and please do not tell us exactly where you are. just tell us, we want to know how you are doing, where are things like around you, what do you see when you look out of the window? >> thank you so much for having me here today. and i am here more to show our reality and what we are falling upon, to all eu leaders. what i can see now is relatively safe, but my city has been become barded two times already, and we never know -- bombarded two times already, and we never know waking up if there will be missiles and bombs landing directly on our city or not.
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so this war is lasting for one month already. and today, with the eu second day, young people from eastern and central europe are going to european cities. and we call upon all eu governments, presidents, and prime ministers, we call for their help, and of course, to put a full embargo on russian oil and gas, in a complete sanctions package that they will announce today, and this will help ukrainians bombarded, and we are tying to keep our resistance, we are trying to keep our resistance, we are trying to keep our history in these tragic and remarkable day, with resistance and mutual
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support, and we can see the ordinary actions of ordinary people fighting for our freedom, for our communities. and fighting for freedom from oil and gas. and fossil fuels that fund this war. and putin's war chest. we all struggle, we continue, again, innocent people are being harmed and we will work with our friends around the world, to seek and hold accountable those who are allowing this devastating and atrocious fossil fuel war to happen. >> svetlana, tell us how people will move forward, and what we're going to see, what form it is taking, what countries are taking part. >> yes, we have launched a joint call to action, which involves ukraine on the very second day of the war and we have been
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supporting all ukrainian organizations and efforts, including our network but organizations from all over the world, from countries all over the world, we call on eu and other governments to enforce embargo on russian oil and gas, and of course, we call on i don't development of all financial assets and funds, financial institutions, any investments in financial institutions. and we also collected over one million signatures on the petition with a group, under the petition, which asks eu leaders to put a full embargo on oil and gas from russia. and the war in ukraine is a big crisis, a big problem, and we should end out and phase out all
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fossil fuels immediately and think of fossil fuels nonproliferation treaty, because as we see on the ukrainian people, fossil fuels have become a way of destruction, and the eu every day is pumping up the russian government with almost 600,000 euros, and since the war started, it has been 17 billion in total. so we need to stop that. and we call on all eu leaders, please impose the full embargo on russian oil and gas today. >> svetlana, ukrainian climate campaigner, thank you. >> thank you so much. these are the live pictures that you can see in brussels. we will be hearing from president joe biden who is speaking alongside ursula von der leyen who is of course the president of the european commission. we will be bringing that to you live any moment now, taking
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center stage. the former iranian hostage anoosheh ashoori is accusing boris johnson of snubbing his family's appeals. the 67-year-old was held for five years before being freed last week, alongside nazanin zaghari-ratcliffe. we spoke to him and his first interview since his release. >> this, the moment of freedom, which took five years to land. for these two, and all of those around them, it was long overdue. anoosheh ashoori back on safe soil. >> how did that moment feel for you. >> when i think about it now, it's very difficult to grasp all of it, because there are many times that i dreamt about sherry, about my kids, and i used to wake up to the feeling of my coffin we used to call
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because the ceiling was about a half a meter above our head, waking up to a ceiling about a few meters away from you, it was unbelievable. >> the end of a nightmare that began when this british iranian citizen was kidnapped from the streets of tehran in 2017. >> as i went down the road, on the street, suddenly a car pulled over, and four men, i think it was four, they jumped out, and said are you mr. ashoori and i said yes. and one of them gave me a piece of paper and said read it. and it was anti-espionage. it was a court order that i should be arrested. >> eventually taken to his cell at the notorious prison, with no explanation or understanding of what was about to unfold. >> when did you sort of realize the enormity of what was happening, or was it not like that in the moment?
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>> it was just disoriented. you just don't know what is going on. and i was taken to a room, to a cell, and i was left there. i think a couple of days, i was there, without anybody seeing me. i didn't know what was going on. >> was it as if you were left -- left there. because you, in addition to your own suffering, you see the suffering of all of the people who are around you. >> people like 66-year-old british american, temporarily released on the same day but soon sent back to prison. >> i am feeling so bitter that he was not on the same plane with us, and i'm not going to be quiet until he is back, and until the rest of the dual nationals are released. >> for all of the pain and
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frustration and political inaction, he said it should not have taken six years. and they felt left down. as notes sent to the prime minister, for calls for action, went unanswered. >> you sent boris johnson a voice note in 2020, to try and get your case heard, and did you hear back from him? >> no. unfortunately. she made many attempts. all of them were unanswered. >> and since you've come home, the prime minister has written to you and would like to see you. >> now he is eager to see the letter. now he is eager to see us. how would you interpret it? >> they are not sure they want to meet the prime minister. amid resilience and resistance, there's understandable resentment, too. this, a remarkable story of
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survival, and the mission now is to help those left behind. on to other news making headlines this morning, conservative mp and media executive lord michael gray has been named as the new chair of u.k. media regulator. the secretary said she is delighted to see a new bbc chairman as the government's preferred candidate for the role. meanwhile, banning virtually all hand-held mobile phone use while driving have come into force, from today, anyone caught taking photos, videos, or playing games at will, could be fined a thousand pounds and face six points on their license. an ice shelf the size of rome has broken away from antarctica. it is a record-breaking temperatures in the region.
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eastern antarctica has been around 40 degrees celsius, hotter than usual in recent days and experts call it one of the most significant ice shelf collapses this century. the duke and duchess of cambridge have arrived in the bahamas for the final leg of the caribbean tour. they had been hoping for a joyful reggae beat to accompany their travels but they have also been greeted by protests over britain's colonial legacy. our world correspondent reports. >> in a land rover, used by the queen, in the 1960s, william and kate have won final official duty to carry out. after three days where they have been under pressure to perform, with so many issues to navigate, in jamaica, slavery, one that he hoped he had done enough to address. >> i want to express my profound sorrow, slavery was abhorrent, and it should never have
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happened. >> in a emancipation park in the middle of kingston, i met epi who comes from trenchtown where the world couple were moved out. >> the word sorrow from prince william, is that enough? >> no it's not. it's just like i'm saying, sorry to keep you on your knees, i'm sorry you that fell, but you should give us something more. >> junior runs a cleaning business and told me they're much more pressing things to deal with it. >> slavery has long gone. if we keep looking in the past, we will never focus on the future. >> let's look at things, such as our economy, where we are going, where we would like to be, a couple of years from now. >> a republic? you want to be a republic? >> a republic.
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>> prince william said there is only going to be so far he can go on matters like reparations, and apologizing. but because he has this enormous international profile, there was a huge expectation about what he was going to say, and that's why some people that i've spoken to wonder what was the point in the trip, if it doesn't bring any change. >> there has been awkward moments. >> we're moving on. >> and some images that have drawn criticism and comment. >> the wounds of slavery will take more than a speech to heal and a referendum is needed. next stop, the bahamas where some of those issues are also still very much alive. and a new audience for the world cup to charm breanna mills, sky news, in nassau, the bahamas. still to come, we'll have
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welcome back. our top stories this morning, transport secretary has told this program that the boss of p & o should resign and the government will introduce legislation to stop the sacking of employees. president zelenskyy has said that they should introduce sanctions of russia much sooner to stop the invasion of his country. and former iranian hostage
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anoosheh ashoori has more on boris johnson. and president zelenskyy has urged world leaders to provide ukraine with more weapons to help stop putin's invasion but russia has warned that a third world war could be around the corner if nato gets involved in the conflict. we're now joined by the defense and security expert working with some of the organizations providing humanitarian support on the ground in poland. thanks for your time this morning. lots of meetings and talks, but no sign of the war ending. why not? >> well, because vladimir putin and his regime have a strategic goal to achieve in ukraine and this is the realism to destroy the ukrainian statehood. and it is taking every cycle of the negotiation with the ukrainian government. and so at this very moment,
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having to save face before the russian public, before his people, he has to achieve something that looks like a victory, so he can claim that he has, you know, denazied, or whatever the russian propaganda called the ukrainian system. of course, victory in russia, it is the pathway, so time is pressing, and putin will try to even step out to achieve at least partially his goals and show that he is the strong man of the world people are used to seeing. >> it is centering that you said, putin, it is interesting that you said, putin carrying on and saving face, do we need a change of tactic now? is there anything we can do to almost appease him, and in a way, make him bow out of this, and to move on, give him
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something, basically, to make him stop this aggression and the killing of so many people? >> after russia regroups and rebuilds its military, this is what happened years ago, with putin doing, so and they believe in fighting against ukraine but nato and america and ukrainian territory. and in the grand scheme of things, putin is actually getting what he wants inside of russia. he is rebuilding the system and really turning russia back into the soviet union type of control regime. and the only thing we can do is press on, and give the ukrainians even more support, until such time that they are able to defeat and push back
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russian forces, with the idea that putin has ultimately tried to do so in this fashion, and effectively stop this war, as a result of the russian defeat. >> what more could nato allies be doing at the moment? because president zelenskyy has made some requests which some of them of course nato has made clear is not able to grant because it's trying to avoid a third world war, trying to avoid other nato countries getting drawn into this war, and indeed russia also warning that a third world war could be around the corner if nato gets involved in the conflict. so where do we go from here? what's the next approach? >> well, yesterday's summit demonstrated nato territory, and those groups, those countries,
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they are working through, and of course, nato is divided when it comes to support of the direct action in ukraine, and a war of this nature, and ukraine, germany and others are against nato's -- we need to stall, and what is most important our leaders of europe and our nato leadership, telling putin what we want to do, you know, every public statement, there is always something important, and saying we won't do this, we won't go into crimea, we don't want a war with russia and with putin, to keep him guessing and we will know this or that but this information warfare which is essential to winning the war
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against russia, waging against the west so we have to be mindful of our messages to keep putin guessing and put pressure on the russian force, and supply ukrainians with additional weapons. and using missiles, you know, which have been effective, all supportive and in the planning. so we owe them that. >> great to get your thoughts. thank you. >> thank you. a month since russia invaded ukraine and it has taken one of country's major cities. and according to some analysts, russia has lost more soldiers than an entire decade fighting in afghanistan. here's our security analysis michael clark with his analysis of the russian campaign. >> vladimir putin is going for
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broke, he tried to conquer country as big as ukraine, with the campaign, only planning to last a few days. >> this map shows russian gains over the past month. you can see. so advances but nowhere near what was expected. most of the country remains under ukrainian control, so where has russia gone wrong? my assessment at the beginning of the war, if russian doesn't win quickly, he doesn't win. i think that's still holds true. >> russians made the fatal america, they underestimated their opponent, believed they would be welcomed if liberated. the russians deployed some of they're lete forces first, they failed to hold their objectives and faced the ukrainian counter-attacks. the ukrainians have adopted more flexible formations than classic battalion and brigade structures. >> the fact that the ukrainians have managed to kill so many generals is remarkable and it is
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not just due to phenomenal work by the ukrainians. it's due it seems to the fact that the russians have complications problems, so the generals have to go closer to the action, in order to see what's going on, and i don't know any other war where so many generals have been killed. >> in real warfare, logistics are fundamental. poor logistics are russia's achilles heels and a lot of the equipment was poorly maintained, and they were told it was a short campaign, and this stalled convoy of russian vehicles is a perfect example. in iraq in 2003, the u.s. dominated the air space from the start. we expected to see the same here. but ukrainian jets and drones are still flying. their command and control remains intact. russian forces are vulnerable to air attack. why isn't the russian air force doing better? >> the russian pilots get somewhere in the range of 80 to
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100 flying hours per year and the u.s. counterpart is 200 to 250 hours a year. >> sanctions and withdrawals of so many countries from russia is punishing their economy severely and the ukrainians are putting to excellent use the weaponry supplied to them by the west, and the anti-tank missiles donated by the brits are one example. it has been become clear that the ukrainians have good intelligence gathering and weaponizing the disillusionment of many slavic brothers in the russia military. but it would be wise to not underestimate russia. if putin decides to take the war forward, as a battle of attrition, the military will do that. it means scenes like this, in mariupol. or these in kyiv. may be repeated. >> translator: they try to
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hinder us and to create threats to our country, to our people, should know that russia's response will be immediate, and it will be due to such consequences you have never encountered in your history. >> putin will keep trying to frighten nato with statements like this, while the attrition strategy is given time to work. the longer the battle goes on, the more sanctions will hurt russia and casualties will mount. that's why now that he hasn't won quickly he loses. russia's forces may do well and win a new variation of putin's war, but if so, he still loses the peace. >> let's take a look at this morning's sports. here's jackie. what a night it was at the wales game, for two brilliant
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goals, as well took a step closer to qualifying for the first world cup since 1958 with a 2-1 victory over austria. and a superb free kick. with a jubilant celebration at the city stadium. >> scoring early in the second half, wales held on to win 2-1. they're one game away from entering the world cup. and will face scotland or ukraine in the playoff final. one team that won't be at this year's world cup, the european champion italy. they were beaten 1-0 by north macedonia in their playoff match. scotland semifinal with ukraine was postponed so they played an international game against poland instead. scotland's lead in a match where
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ten pounds for each ticket sold when to unicef ukraine's emergency fund, almost 40,000 supporters attended that game. and a controversial penalty. it was scored in the 4i9dth minute to deny scotland. they face austria in another international game on tuesday. in cricket, england's unlikely saviors in day one of the decisive first test. england had the final and third test. mahmood, for the last wicket, one run short of the half century. he is kicking himself. in tennis, britain's player is suffering another early exit beaten by katerina in the second round of the miami open. here's the serve for the match in the first set. having won the first. but lost three sets, 3-6, 6-4,
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75 and she had won two of her search matches this season. match point to defeat svitolina in three sets and reach the third round for six years. and now beating the argentina player and facing the top seed medvedev. and this weekend's grand prix, saudi arabia, in saud rai -- saudi arabia, missing the race this weekend because of coronavirus. e race this weekend because of coronavirus. >> thank you. now it's time, still to come on sky news, we will be hearing from the british family
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struggling to get visas for his family fleeing the war in ukraine. t visas for his mifaly fleeing the war in ukraine.
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welcome back. more than 18,000 visas have been granted on the ukrainian family group, set up with the u.k. home office and many are still struggling to get their families to the u.k. as the government's visa system requires a visa to be granted before that individual can travel. alex roberts is a british national whose family left eastern ukraine and currently living in prague while their visa applications are being processed and he joins us now alongside his granddaughter albina. thank you very much indeed to both of you for joining us. great to see you this morning. and i'll just start with you, you know, where are you, in terms of getting on with the
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process? how quickly can you come back to the u.k. with your family? >> the short answer is i don't know. and that's the worry, really. we referred a letter, emails yesterday, from two family members, to say that they actually received the applications. and it is acknowledged that we had valid passports. but we still have to wait now for clearance, before we are given consent to travel on to the u.k., and we're very clear, really not to move from here, until we receive that. so that's the way for us. >> so what is the next stage then? what do you do next? and what sort of support are you getting, to get to the next stage? >> well, i think that we have support from the two countries that we turned to, we left the
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slovak border on the 13th of march and we traveled on to prague and we arrived here on the 17th and we've been in a small very modest hotel, and very comfortable, but you know, we are having to pay something like 50 pounds a night for this place, and we've got resources to cover that for perhaps a couple of weeks, but i start to worry if we have to wait a lot longer. i'm receiving reports from people who we've seen here, including people who are relatives of british subjects, and they have to wait several weeks, some of them are talking about having to wait as long as a month or more before they even acknowledgments of their al applications. >> you have your granddaughter with you and you have the cutest dog you with. tell us how you're doing, tell
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us how your little friend is doing as well. >> i said before, my father now in ukraine, and what i said is i have prayers, and we have this dog. >> albina, what's the name of your dog? >> gina. >> so cute. >> albina, how are you feeling this morning? how you are doing this morning? >> i've said my mother in ukraine, the situation is good, because now we're out of the city. but i i'm trying. >> and i'll just speak to your grandfather now, and as albina was saying her father actually
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stayed behind, the agony that you must be going through, as a family, just tell us about why he's decided to stay behind. >> the situation is that all men between the ages of 18 and 60 are obliged to stay in ukraine to defend their country. and of course, he is very happy to do that, he's there, and we're fortunate we are able to contact him on a daily basis. the worry would be if those contacts were broken. i think people have to imagine how it will be if they are separated from their loved ones, in a war situation, and you have no means of contacting them. that's the real concern for us here. as far as managing here is concerned, there are ways, for example, depending how long albina and her mum will have to stay in the united kingdom, and of course, we will continue to
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ensure the schooling, and housing and in the short term, a reasonable home, rooms to stay for them, but we are really hoping that this war will finish soon and we can return together, my wife and i spent half of the year, at least half of the year in ukraine. and we are really keen to get back as soon as possible. >> of course. and as you know, britain is the only country in europe to require visas, you know, it's much easier to get into the other countries, how do you feel about that? >> well, i feel very, as you said, we're the only country who has made this very demanding challenges, with refugees, you know, for example, to answer, to fill these visa forms in, they have to be done online, and you have to scan documents, make those available, in support of the application, and it's made
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very clear that the more documents you can provide, in support, the quicker it will, it is anticipated the visas will be granted quicker and i can assure you it has taken about three days to get all of that stuff together here and we have prepared, we brought marriage certificates, birth certificates, letters of approval for example from albina's father to allow her to travel out of the country, so we've got those documents to demonstrate that we are a family group, and hopefully i would like to think that that could have been enough. to get to the border. get to the british border. and show these documents and being given clearance to go straight back to wales. >> absolutely. garrett roberts, and you're speaking alongside your granddaughter albina and the cutest dog i have ever seen, albina. thank you very much tore, for
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news. president biden on the move in europe, as he meets with allies on how to respond to russia's one-month-old war in ukraine. meeting with the president of the european commission this morning as he wraps up his business in brussels. we're waiting on live, at any moment now, looking at the podium awaiting president biden there in brussels, we will take that live when it happens in the next few minutes, we believe. after brussels, the next stop, poland. he departs in about two hours. and he's added a stop before his visit to warsaw to the southeastern region about 100 miles from where russian

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