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of chernihiv. >> the shelling is very close. [noise] [inaudible] . the crane president says his country's sovereignty must be guaranteed. as russia claims its focusing its efforts on taking full control of the donbas region. cutting ties, the duke of cambridge signaled support for the separation of three nations from the british monarchy during his caribbean tour. the p and o ferries maintained in northern ireland, with documentation and crew training, a week after 100 staff were sacked. ♪ ♪ ♪ the food fighter drummer taylor hawkins, has died at the age of 50.
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in sport, grand prix grade light, the saudi arabian race will go ahead, despite a attack close to the racetrack and jenna. close to eight, i'll be joined by anthropologist mary-ann a junta, to pick over this one's papers. hello, good morning, and welcome. ukraine has woken up to a fifth weekend at war. but, in a fresh message of defiance president volodymyr duque zelenskyy says his country's sovereignty must be guaranteed, and the ukrainian people will accept no less. he has also pushed for more talks with russia, as moscow signals a change in strategy. russian forces have effectively surrounded the city of chernihiv. we will be bringing you a special report from a city under constant shelling. and, as food and also as a humanitarian crisis worsens.
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ukraine says 136 children have now died since the start of the war. let's take a look at some of the key developments if in the war which has entered its 30th day. russian forces appeared to have shifted their focus from a ground offensive aimed at kyiv, to instead prioritize what moscow calls the liberation of the contested donbas region. the latest uk ministry of defense intelligence suggests that russia is likely to continue to use its heavy firepower on urban areas, as it looks to limit its own already considerable losses, at the cost of further civilian casualties. and later today, u.s. president joe biden will hold talks, and the polish president before meeting refugees in warsaw. in the afternoon he'll make an address on ukraine. and french president emmanuel macron is expected to speak to vladimir putin in the coming days. he's working with greece, and also a turkey, to try to help
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people to leave the besieged city of mariupol. in chernihiv, in northern ukraine, those who escaped describe it simply as hell. encircled on all sides by russian troops, sky news witnessed the destruction of the city's final roots for humanitarian aid. chernihiv lies on the main road from belarus to the capital, kyiv. it's been continuously bombarded by -- limiting access to water and electricity. this guy is special correspondent alex crawford reports now from the city, which is now cut off from the outside. just warning, her report contains images of shrapnel wounds. images of shrapne wounds this is the last route in or out of chernihiv, across an open field where every vehicle can be a target. the city is surrounded on three sides by russian troops at this point, and there is a stream of cars ferrying civilians out of the combat zone. the window to get across the last remaining pedestrian
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bridge is rapidly closing. the russians have spotted this escape route, and minutes after we arrived, they hit it. the shelling is very close. [noise] [inaudible] >> get in, get in. get in from here. >> okay, don't worry, there's no hurry. >> there's a mad scramble to get out, as the attacks keep on coming. >> go, go, go now. the russians have used this tactic repeatedly in this war. >> the last thing we want to do is have an accident. lines of civilians lay on the ground as the shelling goes on.
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they pick themselves up to walk through these bombings, they have no option, only -- and a prayer will get them through this. there are scores of people trying to flee, with bags on their backs they are guided thru the fields by soldiers, whose guns are no match for this heavy artillery. the russians have cut off chernihiv now, and they're targeting those trying to escape their bombs. >> inside chernihiv, the mayor has filmed some of the destruction. there are still an estimated 150,000 people trapped inside the city. it is strategically important because it stands right across the north route, chosen by russia for its events on the capitol. it is carnage, says the mayor. we take refuge in a gym in a basement, with a group of volunteer soldiers. everyone who has made it out of chernihiv, has withdrawn to nearby villages, themselves coming under bombardment. this gives the volunteer soldiers time to make phone
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calls home, one month on, fighting this war, their families and children are mostly well away from the chaos and death they are seeing here on a daily basis. >> [interpreter] my heart is just breaking, one father tells us. it's very difficult, because i'm so used to being with my family. they are my whole life. daybreak, the following morning, and they're trying to work out how to get aid into chernihiv, and the civilians out. the last route is closed, and it's still clearly being targeted. one paramedic asked us for help, but he is yuriy, and he told us the bridge crossing point has been shelled, 15 minutes earlier. now, he is wounded. he has been deafened by the blast, it was so close, and he's got several shrapnel wounds. bits have lodged in his leg, and he needs surgery. there is little that can be done on the roadside, but one of our team does when he can. where? from >> british. >> and shrapnel appears to have punctured his lung.
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he says he's finding it hard to breathe. targeting of civilians, and non combatants like medics is a war crime. he leaves to try to get to a hospital. with this parting message for the world. >> our country needs your help, good luck. nearby are multiple remains of cluster bomb rockets. independent experts, including the investigative group bellingcat have identified them as clustered munitions, been used by both sides in this war. the angle suggest that these have been fired from russian positions. the united nations is investigating the use of cluster bombs as war crimes. there are constant sirens, warning of impending attacks on the nearby villages. those who have made it out, top of a nightmarish existence.
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. it's hell, this mother tells us. my children's godmother is still there, it's not possible to leave the shelter, there's no food, no gas, no electricity. it's just like mariupol, everyone is cut off. >> the rituals of death are followed in between the attacks, by those still struggling to live, but this isn't real living, it's just surviving. those trapped in chernihiv, don't know how much longer they can hold out. alex crawford, sky news, outside chernihiv. >> they're joining me now from lviv in western ukraine where many displaced ukrainians have temporarily settled. sally, good morning to you. let's just discuss the change in strategy which russia is talking about. what does that exactly mean at this stage in the war? >> well, it's an acknowledgment of defeat in ukraine? it's far too early for that. certainly that russian general
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has said that they are focusing their objectives on the eastern donbas region rather than taking the country as they had originally planned, certainly after a month of war here they failed to take control of any major city in ukraine, as many thought they would. the capitol suspected of falling in just a few days, well, that hasn't happened, russian troops haven't managed to make it inside the capitol. but let's not forget, despite this apparent moving of the goal post by russia we must remember that it is hard to trust what russia says when it comes to what it will do in ukraine, because of course, it's denied so many things that it has already done despite evidence of attacks on hospitals and civilian shelters, of course that maternity ward in mariupol. also for so many civilians on the ground such as the civilians ensure enough that we
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saw in the report there, but also the citizens admirable who are living in unthinkable conditions, it doesn't change much for them. they're still intense fighting on the ground in those cities. one thing is clear that russian forces are under great strain in parts of the country. but despite their bizarre pretext for invading ukraine and trying to de-nazify the country, president putin has said this many times, it's terrorized many ukrainians, a quarter of a country made homeless, refugees because of this crisis. one thing i should say those that this by failures in many parts of the country by russian ground forces they have made significant progress in the eastern region of donbas where they plan to focus their efforts according to the senior russian general. they've also made progress in the south, advancing from crime
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area along a coastal corridor there. mariupol of course is directly in the line of fire between the donbas region and the southern corridor between crimea and the east. it certainly still a huge russian target. there is no suggestion here that they are going to change the fighting and their continued efforts to take control of the key southern city of mariupol. what that means is that for the people still trapped there it is very unclear. president macron of france has said that he is trying to pull a coalition between turkey and france to carry out a humanitarian mission to mariupol, we will learn more about that after, president macron is planning to trying to speak to vladimir putin about the humanitarian mission in the next 48 to 72 hours. so much needed potential
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diplomacy when it comes to the fate of the citizens of mariupol. certainly, this moving of the goalpost by russia in terms of their military objectives here in ukraine, it could be more face saving than anything else for vladimir putin. >> sally, thank you. i'm joined by the minister of crime and policing. kit morehouse, thank you for joining sky news this morning. let's talk about the latest and ukraine. of course we know it marks the 30th day of the war, any day is a day too long, many days are fleeing ukraine, they are desperate, and the uk is not helping, we've spoken to so many british nationals who are simply trying to get their families to join them here in the uk and they're having to jump through so many hurdles. why are we the only country in the uk, in europe requiring visas for refugees? >> well, first of all good morning, i would dispute your
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portrayal we are one of the leading donors of humanitarian aid to ukraine. 220 million pounds of humanitarian aid, part of a 400 million pound aid package, and in fact we've agreed at the request of the ukrainian government, in vital food supplies for areas in ukraine that are encircled by the russian forces. we've been in the lead on the new international ukrainian support group bringing together all our partners from across the world to bring that humanitarian economic and defense support for ukraine as it fights against the russian federation. we are leading the fight. yesterday i think we announced that we had over 20,000 visas granted with 35,000 applications in the pipeline. people coming into the uk. later this week we will be announcing the number of people that are coming into the uk as part of the sponsorships.
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i think we are actually stepping up to mark. certainly the noises we hear from the ukrainian president is at a record the uk as the leading international assistance. >> you say that you dispute my points but you try telling that to the grandfather spoke to yesterday he's trying to get his granddaughter to the uk, they're currently having to stay in hotels in nearby countries just to wait for this process. so the numbers don't lie, do they? can you tell us how many visas have been processed so far? >> 20, 000, 100 yesterday, 20,000 in the pipeline. we are trying our best to streamline the system and make it as fast as possible. obviously expanded the number of appointments, we've made the system easier, we've made all forms required to be filled in easy as people come across. in fact, just this week, my team in parliament was successfully getting travel documents to a family in hungary who can now come to my constituency and be reunited with their family members.
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there are hundreds if not thousands of these things being cleared on a daily basis. but obviously the decision we've taken is to bring people from ukraine as fast as we can in a controlled way, we need to make sure that they are safe and that we have regard to the safety and the security of the united kingdom. our system is different, nevertheless they do have controls that kick and later. world trying to put our shoulders to the will to help ukraine in this time of need. >> so those numbers, can you tell me how many people have touchdown on british soil. >> at the moment, as i understand yesterday -- >> not the people going through the process, the number of humans who have actually touched down on british oil. >> i don't have that number, we've granted visas to 20,100. in terms of the numbers of people coming through the sponsorship routes, that number will be published next week and
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you will see in the media that we have people who have come in country. we don't yet have the number of people who have touched on uk soil, but i do understand it is substantial. >> 20,000 isn't that much isn't it? we can be seen as hostile. let's be real, 20,000 isn't really much, if we look at the number of people who are going to poland and neighboring countries, if you look at the number of people who are in germany, 20, 000, i'm afraid, it's just not enough, isn't it? >> it's understandable that people naturally flee to countries that are geographically close to them from a war zone, that happens in a war. our job is to bring as many of them as possible, i had to be reunited with their families or who are being sponsored by those who want to open their homes. in a way that is safe for them, of course. that's what we're trying to do. more than 20, 000, the number
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will be published next week. you will see it at the front of the newspaper, the telegraph today that ukrainians are landing as part of the sponsorship scheme of the uk. we haven't got a cap on the number, we want to be open and generous and compassionate to the way we deal with those poor people fleeing that war zone. that's what we are attempting to do. >> we will be keeping an eye on those figures then -- >> you should, you should. >> thank you very much indeed. let me just get your reaction on the latest piano ferries, the situation there, would you say was inevitable it would be quite difficult for them to trade so many staff in such a short amount of time? >> obviously it has turned into a complete mess. and as the secretary of state transport said yesterday, it seems to be the management of that company, they have not behaved in the best manner that you would expect leaders of a company of that status to
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behave. i know they're strong conversations that are going between the department of strand sport and that company in company owners. they're trying to sort this mess out. they've made it clear what their views are. >> the chief executive of p&o varies, sat in front of mps on thursday and said the -- who i spoke to yesterday knew about the situation in november. i spoke to them yesterday on our breakfast show and he denied that, but we do have some revelations which suggested actually he had a meeting with the boss of the pea world which owns p&o ferries back in november, they had it discussions around p&o, the question i want to put you is that if he has a lot about being aware of the situation concerning p&o ferries and had the opportunity to stop those 800 people losing their jobs,
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the stat make his role untenable? >> i'm not aware of what the meeting was and what was discussed, and if it even happened, you'll have to take that up with him. our job as, the government is to protect those 800 employees who have been made -- sat in front of a committee of the house saying that he knowingly broke the law and we do it. again in the circumstances obviously the minister is having a great conversation in rectifying this situation. regarding his interactions you'd have to take it up with him, they have huge investments in the uk, you have to take it up with him. >> just very quickly to get your views on the call for the p&o ferries chief executive to leave, when i spoke to him yesterday he called for him to leave, what can be done to actually make sure that there is action behind that rhetoric?
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>> well, obviously, we can't compel somebody to resign from their post, all we can do is offer review. however, as he outlined yesterday we can say change the rules so that everybody in the uk is protected. we will be looking at the regulations around how ships are flagged and operate in uk waters to make sure that the maritime world operates as closely as they can to the normal maritime world where regulations are concerned. >> kit morehouse, thank you for your time, thank. you >> thanks. >> the duke of cambridge has suggested any decision by caribbean a shuns to separate from the british monarchy will be supported by the uk with pride and respect. this comes as the camera just tore of belize and the bahamas
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faced protest where there are colonial links. our correspondent has this report, this report contains some flashing images. >> it's been a tore -- the couple has been under pressure to address certain issues that are big talking point across the caribbean. we didn't expect this from prince william's only speech in the bahamas. a clear statement about how he and the royal family feel about other realms cutting ties. >> i want to say this, we support with pride and respect your decisions about your future. relationships revolve, friendship injures. >> it hadn't been the easiest of days. the weather not playing ball. but there is no way they could miss a famous parade. >> wherever they are and
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whatever the weather, it has been said that the royals are in the happiness business. the issues going on in this tour could not be bigger, which means that the stakes are high when it comes to potentially [inaudible] . at the end of the street we found a museum named after a slave who led a rebellion in 1830. part of our shared history that some believed they should be compensated for. >> we think of reparations as a way of gaining justice and repairing the damage that was endured to the transatlantic slave trade and as the under development that was left not only in the bahamas but really in the caribbean as a region. >> kent and kevin were indifferent. >> we are independent, we have our freedom, so slavery to me it's been abolish.
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so why go back? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> some have felt that elements of this poor have felt colonia or outdated, from the couple who has made efforts to balance that, a school visit focusing on the impact of covid. and throwing themselves into whatever has been asked of them, even in the pouring rain they showed themselves to be good sports. >> we will start in a minute. >> a competitive pair realizing they have an important role to play when it comes to making this tour a success or not. sky news, in bahamas. >> longtime drum of the american rock band the foo fighters he has died, he was aged 50. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ >> announcing his death band
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said that they were devastated and said that his musical spirit and infectious life tour will live on for effort. the band is currently in columbia as part of their world tour that was set to include the uk this summer. jacqui is here with all the sports, jackie 50 years old he was. >> so many young people are dying at the moment. >> it's awful. >> it's shocking and bad news and i was going to say that i was going to bring sunny news but i will not. the grand prix, they were locked in a meeting after an attack on an oil refinery near the circuit, we will look at the international football where he will decide against switzerland. plus we will update you on the progress of the potential heavyweight boxing rematch between ukraine's alexander sec and anthony joshua.
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miles from the circuit, with the -- rebel saying they caused it. drivers discuss the issue before second practice, delaying the start by 15 minutes, before another gathering afterwards that lasted to the early hours of this morning. it's thought several drivers were unsure about continuing, but assurances have been provided by the saudi officials. >> english footballers continued their preparations at this year's world cup in qatar, by taking on switzerland at wembley tonight. gareth southgate said he'd be experimenting with a squad. >> there will be, definitely, we're gonna have daybreak this week, so very good moments for these players. we always want to put them in with experienced players as well, so we've got good balance, and it gives them the best chance of succeeding. >> ukrainian boxer alexander sick has confirmed on social media, he has to start training for a rematch with anthony joshua. the -- six home country ukraine, as he
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was fighting. you sit beat joshua for us for heavyweight world titles back in september, and we will be going live to talk about that just after 9:30 this morning. and tennis, where cannery has beaten fellow brit jack layton to in straight sets, to reach the third round of the miami open. nori, at the top of your screen, took a first set tiebreak before breaking in the seventh game of the second set to win that 164, against a guy he often trails against. he'll now face francis hugo gosnell in the next round, andy mayer returns to action tonight. he will face the top seed, daniel medvedev, which should be interesting. and a curious one yesterday against andré tube, love when he was fined 90,000 pounds for smashing his racket, and ranting at been stellar, during a meltdown at indian wells, a very expensive tantrum that one. i will see you in an hour's time. an hour'
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time jacqui, thank you. for victims who lost more than 10 million pounds in a uk currency firm collapse, have won a remarkable battle to get all their money back. the company's bank, barclay's, has been fined and condemned by the regulator for a failure to conduct its business with two skill, care, and diligence. barclay's has agreed to refund victims. >> >> businesswoman, pauline, lead her fellow fraud victims into battle and won back their money. but it wasn't easy. >> it's been horrible and a lot of people got very ill. i think we've lost six or seven claimants who have died during that process. i think three died actually, within six months of discovering that their money had been stolen. i think that's pretty ghastly, to die knowing that a lifetime 's work has been scammed by
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some nasty fraudster, who had a license from the uk authorities. >> when premier fx currency exchange firm went bust, 10 million pounds of its customers money was missing. the crash cost them retirement homes, life savings and pension pots. in some of its dealings with expats in portugal and spain, premiere fx had been operating illegally. initially, there was little or no help for victims from their various agencies they appealed to. >> i spoke to her majesty's treasury quite a bit about this at that beginning. they said, no one is interested in fraud in the uk. he said, the uk government will only get involved if it's a big international scam. and there's a certain amount of kudos in the government and working together with our international partners to actually bring down some big crooks. he said, you know, it's good for us and it's good for the city of london. >> but the hundred and 67 victims campaigned and eventually the uk's financial
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conduct authority did investigate. with premiere fx gone, it put the company's bankers in the dark. it fined barclays three quarters of 1 million pounds for its feelings, and the bank has agreed to refund the stolen 10 million pounds. the f c a said there was a failure by barclay's to conduct its business with do skill, care and diligence. premier fx collapsed after its owner, peter, died suddenly in 2018. he was licensed to buy the financial conduct authority, but only for transferring currency. unlicensed, he was encouraging clients to deposit funds with him, and then mixing up their cash with the companies. retired manufacturing engineer graham, said his own loss was small compared with others. but -- >> if it was a five or i would chase them.
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fraud is an easy and fast growing form of robbery. and it's just not being stopped. it's not being checked. >> how surprised were you when you heard the good news? >> oh, very. i mean, ecstatic, really. >> with that money when, is a mystery. but in portugal, police are still investigating allegations of fraud. martin brent, sky news. consumers are being warned, that they're likely to face an increased of the price of milk. fees are soaring production costs. joining me now is a dairy farmer, dairy that christensen. grateful for your time here on sky news this morning. i can see that your heart of work there. i can see the background as well. david, i just want to get your views on what is going on behind the scenes. because, fork consumers, we often see the and products on our breakfast or dinner tables.
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the reality is, you are facing some real challenges it at this morning. can you just elaborate on some of those challenges we are facing currently. >> yes, thanks for the opportunity this morning. i've been farming 30 years, and i've never experienced the likes of inflations that we're seeing this moment. if we say take some of our key import costs, our fuel has gone from 60 pencil either of these will last year, to about one pound and five, one pound and ten p now. if we take the fee that we're gonna be feeding that cows next winter, we are looking at 100 pounds increase on that. and there is a question mark on availability. and fertilizer is the big one. this time last year, i would've been pain about 315 to 330 pounds a ton for fertilizer. this year, i'm paying over 900. in fact, yesterday, i was quoted 9:35. these are huge increases. historically, we've been able to absorb a lot of the inflation in the industry, by getting more efficient, and that. but it's got to the point where we just can't do that anymore,
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so farmers are now really questioning, a, how much more milk they produced in the future, and whether they produce milk at all. i think there is a serious question for all of us in society. abs salute lee, i was just gonna ask you about that. how do you carry on? is there any sort of idol from the government that is going to be able to help to keep you going? >> no, there is no additional support. in fact, if anything, the government are less rather than more friendly to british farming at the moment, with the trade deals they are signing up with overseas countries. it's down to us to try to deal with this. as farmers, we've got to try to take control of this ourselves, and that's what this whole strategy with our cooperatives about. >> and chancellor in his spring statement blamed covid and ukraine for some of the reasons why the cost of living crisis is building. do you agree with this assessment? >> yes. i think it's been a long time thing in agriculture. we don't value food enough in
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society, any of the foodstuffs we produces farmers. so, this is been building for a long time, and what's happened is that ukraine has brought it to a head. it's gotten to a point where something needs to give. it's just bonkers, when a bottle of milk costs less than a bottle of mineral water. we've got a sort that out, or our producers are gonna produce a level of milk we need in this country. >> talking about pricing. currently, upright of milk will cost you, last time i went to the supermarket, about 69 pence or so. where can we see that jumping to? >> i'm not allowed to talk about prices. we have a checkered industry with a competition authority, i've to stay away from that area. but i think that the reality is that milk is just far too cheap. we are going to have to accept to pay a little bit more. actually, it wouldn't make a huge difference to the price of milk on the shelf, that would make a huge difference to us, if we increased by a small amount. i think that's the way we've got to be thinking. just recognition of the value in milk, and dairy products,
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and been prepared to play a little bit more for it. >> david christiansen, dairy farmer, grateful for your time on sky news this morning. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> well, let's not speak to the managing director of our low foods uk. amir ahmadi, grateful for your time. as we were just hearing there from david christiansen, the dairy farmer, saying we need recognition of, just have more respect in a sense for our dairy foods, and the amount of money that we are willing and prepared to pay for it. >> yes, vanessa, good morning. i think david really presented the farm situation well. he's one of 2100 dairy farmers, that owns the cooperative that i managed on their behalf. if you look at the price at which milk has been sold in the shops, if we go back ten years. the price of all goods is inflated by about 26%.
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milk has actually gone back 7%. that's the picture that david was painting, and of course it's very difficult for farmers to swallow that. >> and, i asked him about pricing, which you tuft stun very briefly. he said he couldn't talk about that, which i very much respect. currently, we are looking at about 69 pants for a pint of milk. looking at the next two months, two months, even six months, where could we'd be in terms of, how much a pint of milk will be costing us. >> well, it's very difficult to say, because i think our customers have a very challenging balancing act to get right. we know how high the cost of living is, fuel at the pumps, and also food prices rising. but at the same time, our customers need to make sure they are able to secure the product for the shops as well, and it's the costs of those products that are going up, because of the fee, the fertilizer, and the fuel that
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farmers like david are having to buy. farmers like david or actually producing 4% less now, than they were last year, because of this inflation. so, we need to make sure we've got our arm around dairy farmers, cover their costs, to make the skills that you saw behind david continue to flow the milk into the shops. >> do you feel that the chancellor, in his budget, puts his arm around you, to borrow your words there, in order to help the company to keep afloat, but also to help the likes of david. >> i think the key thing, here, is that we need to work with our customers, to make sure that the costs are covered on farm, but also that farmers like david can continue investing to make sure that his cows, and his farm is making that transition towards sustainable food production, and therefore really it's about that, that is the immediate issue, and making sure that the
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milk continues to flow. >> well, looking at the situation, especially what david outlined, it does look bleak, and also i'm speaking to you there. do you have a plan in place, is there something that you like to put forward to government to help you, as we approach this very difficult situation. we don't want to get to a stage, do we, where you say the flow of milk is having to be reduced significantly? >> yes, that's a very good question, vanessa. the key thing now is that farmers like david are making very important choices about how much food they're going to be able to, by much fertilizer to beat by. to actually grow the food that those cows can eat in the future, and therefore it's very important that we cover those costs now. i think in terms of our little business, yesterday we actually launched our new five year strategy, and over the next five years we have some very positive plans for farmers like david to be able to sell their milk, and to branded products,
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looking at export opportunities. therefore, milken uk needs to make sure that its profitability is increasing, so that david can continue with the milk flowing. >> absolutely, -- and you directive are the foods uk. grateful for your time today, thank you very much. >> thank you, vanessa. >> well, let's see how the weather is shaping up today. ng up today. a spell of warm sunny spring weather, temperatures will be on a downward trend over the following few games, bringing wintry showers to some. missed and fog will clear to sunny skies once again. however, clouds will shroud some northern and northwestern areas. there will be long sunny spells
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straight into one of the most colorful front pages we have today, the daily star there. the headline as we can see absolute burke, must walk the plank, he refuses to walk the plank. certainly not mincing their words, are they? >> i had to pick this to cover because it is a fantastic front page. most of us know about what has happened earlier in the week with p&o, they sacked 700 crew members, walking them off the ships that they live on for a week at the time sometimes. with their personal effects in plastic bags, and the piano chief executive gave evidence earlier this week, he was
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basically unapologetic said yes we broke the law we should have consulted with unions along this firing and rehiring practice, they will get paid off and re-hired on a contract with much less favorable terms through an agency. basically, the ceos said it's the only way to save the company, we broke the law but breaking the law rehiring all of these staff at much lower cost and paying for any fines because we broke the law will still be cheaper than engaging with the unions and try to negotiate a new settlement with staff that they would accept. so the transport minister said that that is unacceptable, you need to step down. but of course now that the pm has joined the calls and saying
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that that he is in an untenable position -- the staff has said that boris johnson looks like a clown, he broke the law as well, and he hasn't stepped down? because you thought that it was worth breaking the law because you could get away with it and get which you wanted. >> absolutely. i was thinking just that, calling the kettle black. it was on stone itching, marianne to see him in front of mps and the line that he says, he said yes i would do it again. you think that it is astonishing. those 800 people who have husbands and wives and family children depending on them, but this is something that the government is looking at. when i spoke to him yesterday he said that he will be coming in front of the comments next
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week to bring about a law that will close a loophole that piano exploited. i will just come to you, edward, looking at the front page of the ftc and one of the stories that has been tucked away actually, the story about a billionaire who is under sanctions struggling to pay the bills. obviously, tell us more about this guy. >> sure. and all the guard who is struggling because of the sanctions that are being placed on him, a former politician, academic, businessman who is worth 5 million pounds, he said because of the sanctions that have been placed he is unable to pay's bills. i think the realize asian is what is going on is the olive guard's like him, people who have lavish lifestyles who own hotels fancy mansions and places in london, if you
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mention to people and sit and oligarch they think that they have more value or more collateral in london than anywhere else, in ascends for someone to say look because of what is going on literally i'm crippled, can't pay anything, can't do this. it makes you think that this situation, as tragic as it is, these all guard certainly have the power in terms of wealth and it makes you think whether they could use their power to lobby the kremlin into putin and say look you've put us in dire strain, we don't want to be in this predicament, you can change the narrative by stopping what you are doing in ukraine, you would think that that would be the most logical situation, but clearly this guy, his bank account, his assets, everything has been frozen at the moment. he is going through a precarious time. as you said there, and the fact
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that whether or not his money can translate into influence over putin these are exactly what the sanctions -- put their part of what they are designed to achieve. let me come to you, mary-ann, we're looking at the guardian newspaper, and anybody who drives who has used the pumps can see it, i know certainly i'm feeling it, i'm seeing the massive increase in cost. less than half a fuel duty gets passed on to drivers, this is from the aa. >> the chancellor increased it by five pants. they have come out and said that it is -- only half of that cut in duty has been reflected in the price of the pumps. wholesale petrol peaked at the start of march and since then
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the prices for the fuel supplies and fuel companies, the prices have been coming down and so if you processes should be about sixpence less than they are now, this adds up and richie sunak is -- he has dropped five pence, but that would just get the price where they were week ago. these fuel supplies aren't passing the cost saving supply for us users at the pump. so basically it is not enough, you know, this argument that the market will regulate itself, but when you are looking at something like filling up your car, your vehicle, there is a limit to how much people can do. yes you might have to not take some of those optional journeys but if you are traveling for work, are you really making a choice? >> absolutely. edward, i'm coming to you first
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story that i think actually we need a longer time, basically, to go through. if we're not able we will have to talk through this. this is the paper that says that they want to host a syrian refugee but not a ukrainian one. when people are fleeing from a war zone in their refugees, they are simply humans. can we please just treat them like that? >> clearly not with this, it seems like refugees from ukraine, they are exempt but refugees from elsewhere are not. this is a woman that wanted to do something that we would all do which is to help refugee, help someone in need. she was told by a local council, that she would have a 500-pound discount removed if she housed a refugee at our house. and it's astonishing to think. >> it is, edward --
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