welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin involves. . we are following the latest in a bids day in the war in ukraine.

president biden on his way home from poland on a day of marilyn news, including a speech from the president and a major strike on a city that had been considered one of the safest inside ukraine. multiple missile strikes hitting the area of lviv, the attacks sending black smoke billowing into the air and flames engulfing, nbc reporters say appears to be a fuel depot. hundreds forced to scurry into underground bunkers in fear of further attacks. the timing and location of the strike hard to ignore by the way, targeting a ukrainian city, not too far from the border with poland. just about 30 miles or so. some of the strikes happening even as president biden was visiting and just a short time before he ended his overseas trip with a major speech. supporting ukraine against russia and the russian president. >> a dictator been on rebuilding an empire will never erase the

people's love for liberty. brutality will never grind down their will to be free. ukraine will never be a victory for russia. for free people rvrz to live in a world of hopelessness and darkness. we will have a different future, a brighter future rooted in democracy and principle, hope and light, decent i and dignity and freedom and possibilities. for god's sake this man cannot remain in power. >> and that is where we begin this hour. nbc's josh letterman with more on the president's message. let's pick up where the president left off there. the white house now clarifying the president's final moments in that speech here. josh, talk us through it. >> reporter: well, yasmin, the white house has really tried to avoid in the last month directly suggesting that president putin needed to go, because they thought that would really be an

escalatory step. now we heard from biden in what a senior official is now saying was an ad-libbed moment at the end of the speech. for god's sake this man cannot be allowed to stay in power. a white house official telling reporters what president biden meant was that president putin cannot be allowed to exert this type of coercive influence over other countries in the region. but that they were not calling for regime change or suggesting anything about who should lead russia. but that having been said, we're already hearing from the kremlin, via the spokesman, commitry pesk off who told reuters it's not up to president biden who the president of russia is. that putin was elected by the people of russia. now obviously people will raise questions about whether there were free and fair elections in russia. but leaving that aside, you could clearly tell the anger and the disdain that president biden has at this point for a man that he called a butcher earlier

today when he was describing president putin after he met with refugees. biden also using this speech here to an audience of polish officials as well as ukrainian refugees who were in attendance for the speech to try to zoom the camera out a bit, yasmin, and depict that conflict as one between freedom and authoritarianism, as one of the free world standing up for its values against someone who is trying to impose his will on a sovereign nation. here is a bit of what biden in to say. >> time and again history shows that from the darkest moments that the greatest progress follows. and history shows this is the task of our time, the task of this generation. let's remember the hammer blow that brought down the berlin wall, the might that lifted the iron curtain, where a not the words of a single leader.

it was the people of europe who for decades fought to free themselves. >> reporter: and yasmin, the speech was such a split screen moment with biden using it to issue a threat to president putin not to touch one inches of nato territory, while putin seems to issue his own threat to president biden with his military launching those strikes near lviv, just a few hundred kilometers from where president biden was speaking here in poland. biden also using this to speak directly to the russian people to try to turn them against their own government, which is a tactic we have seen the ukrainians and president zelenskyy using repeatly over the last month saying basically to the russians you're better than this we know the average russian doesn't support the violence that we are seeing in mariupol, in kyiv and other places in ukraine. president biden trying to use that today as well to try to get more political opposition in

russia as we are starting to see early signs from even some in the political class in russia from some of the oligarchs from journalists, they are starting to speak out against this war by putin as it enters its second month. >> yeah, zelenskyy addressing the russian people on numerous occasions in russian at that. what are we learning, josh, from your reporting, when it comes to the motivation behind this speech? what they were trying to accomplish here? because -- because it was so incredibly powerful, because president biden called out putin directly, addressing the russian people directly, calling putin a liar? what was the motivation behind it, the thinking behind it? >> well, there is some concern right now within the biden administration, yasmin, that while they've done what they feel is a really solid job in unifying the u.s. and the west, the european nations creating

this very strong economic response, and reinforcing the nato alliance, that that could start to wane a bit as this conflict drags into its second month, and that you could start to see cracks emerge, particularly as the economic sanctions start to take a toll on the sanctioning nations, on the europeans as they put in the energy restrictions. and so the white house felt like biden needed to give a really strong speech that really called attention of the world to this moment and to the reason that they need to stick with this, to have the fortitude to stay unified as there are so many other demands on people's attention. >> got it. all right, josh letterman, as always great to see you. thank you. josh just mention inned this i should say as the president was getting ready to speak in poland across the border in ukraine, massive explosions about 200 miles or so away, rock the western part of the city.

ukrainian military officials determined that two of the explosions were russian missile strikes. nbc's ali ruzi in lviv for us. good to talk to you again. bring us up to date on what more we are learning first about these strikes. >> reporter: hi, yasmin, that's right. about five and a half hours ago we heard the first missile strike northeast of where we are. and we have learned that two missiles hit a fuel depot there. and there was a large plume of smoke right after that hit the fuel depot, very dark smoke rising all over lviv. prve here could see it. we heard the strikes as well. about two hours after those missile strikes in towards the south of lviv, there was another explosion. much all smaller than the first i have to say. and the smoke not as large and didn't last as long.

we learned that that was a ukrainian defense facility, for obvious reasons, the ukrainian authorities are not giving a lot of details of exactly what these facilities were. but, you know, these are obviously long range missiles that had strategically targeted tease two people -- these two places. and ukrainian officials are saying that nobody has been killed. but five people have been injured. and interestingly, the second one on the south, there doesn't seem to be any more smoke coming from that one. but the first one, you can still see smoke in the distance. and you can still see a glowing red light which shows that it's still burning. the mayor in lviv have said the firefighters are on the scene trying to put that out. just to give you a little time line of the strikes around lviv, about two weeks ago the russians hit the yaverov military training base. that was certainly the most

significant attack in the west so far. they killed 35 ukrainian soldiers there and injured many more. that's about 35 miles out of lviv. it's sort of in between lviv and the polish border. a week after that they hit an aircraft maintenance facility. that was only four miles out from the city center. and of course today we had tease two attacks which seemed to be the closest to lviv. and it's interesting, because these are all very strategic places. they're military targets. they're fuel depots, aircraft maintenance facilities. and the russians obviously are fighting hard with the ukrainians on the east. but here in the west they want to hit strategic locations. and these could disrupt ukrainian supply lines. apparently at the aircraft maintenance facility there were some aging mig planes the

ukrainians had that the russians wanted to keep out of the air. here in lviv city center, although people are anxious, nervous worried that this may come right into the city center, it still remain relatively safe. but they are getting prepared for any scenario. >> ali aruz oichlt as always great to see you. stay safe i want to bring in ambassador bill taylor joining me. ambassador thanks for sticking with us. we appreciate it. i want to go back to the moment we spoke about in the last hour, the end of the president's speech. in which he said for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power. and i want to talk about this for one reason. the white house now walking it back, clarifying what the president said. but that being said, the united states has a very precarious relationship with moscow. we have had many pull asides with russia over syria, over

iran. there are mutual interests with russia. i'll say it like that. that being said, how does the united states go forward with vladimir putin in power, when all is said and done with ukraine? how does he remain in power? how does a president biden or the next president have a pull aside with a someone who has done the atrocity that is putin has done in ukraine >> it's a great question. it's a great question it will it will no doubt be difficult to do that. there are interests the united states has in dealing with russia. you named a couple. another one, of course, is the fact that both united states and russia have strategic weapons, have nuclear weapons that threaten each other. and we have -- we have one last treaty called new start treaty that is still in effect. and it will expire in four years. and so there are discussions. there are negotiations that have

to be had. we need to have these conversations with the russians about that and the other things that you a mentioned about iran. there may be other issues. so knows can take place, yasmin. knows can still happen. these normally don't happen at the presidential level. any start out, of course, at working groups. and they go up to the minister of foreign affairs and secretary of state. and they have these conversations. that can happen. these issues are of interest to both sides. and that will continue to happen. however, you're exactly right. with -- with president biden's view of president putin being so clear now, and his statements about war criminal, about butcher, about how he can't be -- he can't remain in power or even have power -- remain powerful over people -- nations outside of russia, i mean, any of knows comments, we know how

president biden feels. president putin knows how he feels about him. so there is -- it's a reality. and i think they can continue to work at the lower level on some of these issues that are going to be important for both of the us. but the relationship between these two men is going to be very difficult. >> you know it's interesting because every ukrainian we have spoken to in the last hour when you ask them what they thought of the speech, they think -- any say we're thankful for the support from president biden. the humanitarian aid we've gotten so far but it's not enough. we want the no fly zone. and it seems as if until a no fly zone is granted which seems is not in their future, it will never be enough. can anything be done to change that mindset, to make ukrainianing feel as if they are not alone in this fight? >> absolutely. and president biden -- just on the last point, yasmin, went out

of his way, made it -- was very explicit, we are with you. now, the ukrainians are right. you can't just say that. you have to do that. you have to show that that's -- that is meaningful, it's real. and that means doing things. it means doing things on the air defense side. it's very clear. so president -- it's even clear to president zelenskyy who beamed in. he addressed the nato summit as we know. and he didn't ask, yasmin -- president zelenskyy did not ask the nato summit for a no fly zone. he didn't ask for nato membership. he knows what that answer is. however he is looking for alternatives on both ever those. president zelenskyy wants to have the protection from the sky. and you remember very well how he -- he invoked 9/11, and pearl harbor when he was addressing the -- the u.s. congress. he wants protection from the sky. and that we can start to give. that we can do in other ways other than -- that don't involve

sending american pilots or nato pilots into ukrainian air space. there are ways to do that as we know. there are surface to air missiles that can be provided that we can provide that our allies can provide, that we can help provide to the ukrainians that they know how to work. there is that. but on the other point about not nato, president zelenskyy still wants to be secure. he wants to have the security for his country. and if it's not -- he thought it was going to be nato. he thought nato would be the answer to the security for ukraine. turns out not, at least not now. and so he is looking for something else. and he asked the nato summit -- this is i think important to think about -- he asked the nato summit for some nations to give him security guarantees. he asked for security guarantees, so that he can secure his country. that's what he is thinking about. >> ambassador bill taylor, as always, we appreciate your voice on this. thank you for sticking with us

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five people. among the target an oil depot in a residential area and defense sector factory. this is all coming the same day of course that president biden gave the powerful speech in wars saw not far away. i want to bring in the editor from lviv. thank you for joining us we appreciate it how are you doing? >> good, thanks. as well as i can be, like most ukrainians in our country. yeah, i saw your coverage today of the lviv depot. thanks for covering the war in ukraine. but i want to make a very important remark. our government asked journalists and bloggers not to share footage of russian strikes immediately after they happen, because this -- we are acting as spotters for the russians. and ukrainian -- this has been criminalized in ukraine. and ukrainians are very careful

not to share this footage immediately after the strikes. so whereas i understand this raises awareness about the war, but this actually helps the russians crack the artillery fire. s in a request from our government to be very careful with sharing visuals from the war. >> and i appreciate you communicating that to us. i do want to remind folks that we are several hours after on the latest strikes that happened in lviv just so everybody is ware as we are showing some of these images. >> um-hum. >> ayla, where were you when the strikd happened? and do you feel as if this is going to change the energy inside lviv once seen as a place for safety or displaced people inside ukraine now being attacked? >> well, i was in a bomb shelter. and that was located relatively far away from the strikes. but some of our team members

were actually living nearby. so of course there is a sense that the war is coming closer. and i think basically that's what russia is aiming for, to terrorize ukrainians to break their will to resist, to make them be afraid in their own country, make them feel there is no safe place to go. but i think that he is not achieving this yet, because ukrainians are still ready to fight. of course, yeah, and, you know, i just -- maybe i wanted to share with you one recent story that we just published as i was in the bomb shelter i was editing because we have now wi-fi in the bomb shelter and i can work there. it's the story of about the mariupol drama theater. we just published an eye witness account of what happened that day. if you remember, on the 16th of march, the russians bomb the

theater. and first the city authorities they said that the people survived that the bomb shelter held. but now we know that at least three people -- 300 people died. and remember the bombing of the maternity house in mariupol. you know where the pregnant women and knew borns were evacuated to. they were evacuated to this theater. but they did not survive. they were living in a wig. it actually wasn't a as strong as another part of the bomb shelter. so all those mothers and children died. i mean, i just -- this is just like the latest story that we published. yeah. so i guess that's the latest out of ukraine. >> i can't imagine. >> sorry it's just. >> i can't imagine what it's like to be covering this.

no -- you don't have to say sorry ayla. this is your life and it also happens to be your job as a journalist to cover these types of stories but it's your life as well and the life of so many ukrainians now lost because of this senseless war. >> yeah. >> and i'm so sorry for what you are going through. this must be so hard for you to have to cover every day, to hear about these -- >> no, no, it's hard for those people living there. it's hard for the people evacing. this is why it's so important that journalists are not help the russians to kill any more ukrainianings that they are doing now. so this is why i'm just conveying this request from our government. yeah. and, you know, also an encouraging news that came out of the meeting with biden and in

warsaw our foreign minister said there is an attempt agreement that the united states will provide anti-missile systems that will allow us to destroy more missiles coming in at us. imprisoning this is really encouraging. i just would like to thank the united states for providing this equipment. and hopefully it will work. >> ayla thank you for the work you are doing there for providing these stories for the world to see and for talking to us today. please stay safe. thank you. >> thanks for listening. yeah. >> we'll be right back. ry. small businesses are fed up with big bills and 5g maps that are mostly gaps— they're switching to t-mobile for business and getting more 5g bars in more places. save over $1,000 when you switch to our ultimate business plan... ...for the lowest price ever. plus, choose from the latest 5g smartphones— like a free samsung galaxy s22. so switch to the network that helps your business do more for less—join the big switch to t-mobile for business today.

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cal. do you feel as if there is going to be a sense from people inside that city now after these missile strikes that they will want to leave, having sought safety there and refuge at one point but now feeling as if they are in a new stage of this war? >> i think absolutely. you know 300,000 at least internally displaced folks making their way here to lviv. and i don't think there is any question there will be people who want to leave. look the strikes were close enough we could feel them and you could see the smoke. black, thick smoke sort of covered the entire city for a few hours. we think that's still probably burning. it is an oil and fuel facility. and this was clearly a mental by the russians that they can strike deep into the western part of the country. this is only the third streak we have had since the beginning of the war. and we heard in the last hour from the president he is's op putting out a statement saying the strike on lviv are an

intimidate to ukrainian attention diplomatsic countries in the city. it was working noting this was not only the fall-back city for diplomats but the way station for refugees, a place where refugees have been stopping on their way to poland or where refugees have been absorbed into the community here. but it will change the posture of the city. we hear air vied sirens here almost daily, two, three times a day. the last few air-raid sirens have been followed by sounds of explosions. you have people taking it seriously in the last air-raid people made their way to the bunkers at a spoo speed we hadn't seen in some sometime, yasmin. >> is there a major presence of ukrainian military forces in that city in. >> there is a presence. i wouldn't call it a major presence. but we did see in fact like an entire platoon of folks making their way down the street shortly after these explosions. they try to stay out of sight because it's lviv and we sort of

know that while there are things moving through the city we don't see a lot of that, because they don't want to see a lot of that we know there are weapons coming in from poland across the border. but it not something that they show. we saw non-lethal aid handed off to trucks i think 36 hours ago, 48 hours ago a mile behind me in a parking lot in broad daylight. but again non-lethal aid, flak jacket, helmets things for the front when it comes to weapons we don't see. the second target of the strikes, there was two batches of airstrikes, the second batch hit what officials here are calling a quote defense warehouse right. they're being vague intentionally defense warehouse/factory is how they put us. they don't want to see what was in the site because they don't want russians to know they hit the intended target if that was the intended target. that's why they are intentionally vague about it. it's hard to be vague at all about this oil and fuel facility. it's still burning. and that was clearly the target from that first strike, yasmin.

>> cal perry as always my friend great reporting. please stay safe. all right, today's strikes in lviv contradicting what at least one russian officials calls a move wayfair from a countrywide attack on ukraine to focus on the, quote, complete liberation of the donbas region that the kremlin nounlzed asset a strategy shift in the region as losses are piling up. joining me now with his insight on the strategy shift is andriy, former ukraine defense minister. andriy thank you for joining us on this. we appreciate it. i first want to talk about the incredible success we've seen from ukrainian forces, this unprecedented ability to hold back to fight off russian forces, take back cities from russian forces. what do you lend that success to? >> well we are way more

motivated. we are more efficient. we have gone through a lot of stages of preparation over these eight years. we realize that we don't have any plan b. so we need to defend our country at all costs, because this is our families, these are our lands and our cities and so on. and also russian -- russian army has substantial issues with the command and control. and they do lots of mistakes. and we have been preparing for this. and we know that the way how though defeat them. so their ground preparation is -- sorry ground campaign is actually failing. on the ground ukraine wins at the moment at least. but this is -- in goes on for months. so we can say this is a systemic advantage of ukrainian ground forces over russian. >> so obviously we heard from moscow about kind of a recalibration it seemed that was happening, refocus on the eastern part of ukraine, the dmbz region. but of course there were the strikes on lviv just a few hours

ago that contradicts in recalibration, the timing was suspect, considering president biden was speaking just two hundred miles or so away from lviv and in warsaw poland. what do you make of it. >> two things. first of all, they do target some warehouses and some logistics, and particularly of ukrainian military. the next one is that they are demonstrating and sending message they can reach any corner of ukraine with their missiles. which is the case, yes. because they were avalanched from sebastopol in crimea. at the same time none of the missile strikes will do what the ground operation should do. as i said before ground operation is failing. of course, it's a message to the international community that they can -- they can still do some damage. but if they think that they can reach any political goals with this, no? can they break the will of ukrainians to fight? no can they break the will of international community to help

ukraine and support it and actually get us to the victory? no. so i think it's more like a helpless fury of russia to at least do something to show their might. >> the president met with ukraine's defense minister and foreign ministers just a few hours or so ago. if you had met with the president what would you have said ukraine needs right now? >> well, first of all, certainly we are grateful to the person community. particularly the united states as our biggest supporter in terms of equipment, money and overall support. so that's a huge deal. and some of the weapons which we receive and some of the types of support which we receive are actually game changers for this. but also it was a very powerful speech of biden before that. and -- and we see that the issue is finally elevated to a much grander scale. we are talking about a very substantial -- this war is a war

against humanity. it's a war against -- against the freedom, against the country which decided and maintains to maintain freedom, to be ruled by the law, to be ruled by democratic standards and so on and man dictator putin decided that it should belong to him. and so it's much more than the regional conflict. it's much more than even a ukrainian war or a war of russia against ukraine. it's a war against principles on which the modern world is built. and the biden speech reflected that. so what i would say and see we need to be together until the victory. we see that we can win. we see that russians can lose. and they are actually losing right now on the ground as i said. and we need to stand together. and actually deliver that help package which was just announced last week to the -- to the -- to the support which would be enough on time as per specifications and so on. so ukrainian -- ukrainian army has enough capabilities to successfully win this.

and it's absolutely doable. this is absolutely over. we see that. we can defeat russians, yeah. >> andriy, formerly ukraine defense minister. thank you. great to talk to you. >> thank you. residents? lviv are urged to stay inside as explosions rock that city today. after the break journalist visha zelenskyy joins me from lviv to talk about his reporting from interest and what he is seeing on the ground. we'll be right back. we exercise. i noticed i wasn't as sharp as i used to be. my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business,

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you actually tweeted about that moment. you were in a bomb shelter. and you said with putin shooting missiles on their city ordinary ukrainianing sing the national anthem in the dark. i filmed in in a bomb shelter located under a church. powerful. i believe we have that moment. let's play it for everybody. ♪♪ >> tell me about this moment. >> well, it's extraordinary. and it shows you just now strong the ukrainian will and spirit is not to be intimidated by vladimir putin a at a distance. that was taken about an hour or so after the attacks at 4:30

p.m. i happened to be touring the city for other matters. i was about a kilometer away from the fuel facility that was struck. so it was struck by several mitchells around 4:30 p.m. huge explosion. everyone saw the footage of the plumes of smoke it was obvious fuel was hit because only fuel burns in that manner. we had reports shortly there after that further missiles were aunchd out of crimea. everyone knew there was likely to be a second round of explosions somewhere in the city. no one knew where. i took shelter with ukrainian volunteers under a church in an impromptu bomb shelt and she started singing the national anthem by which i was touched by. and another strike happened in the another part of the city. it's impossible to describe that facility. some sort of military target prblt. the ukrainianing have been deliberatery vague about that. lviv has been rocked by two

separate attacks today. a city 50 miles away from the polish bored it's a message to nato and joe biden who was giving a speech 200 miles away, yasmin. >> did the ukrainians you were with did they seem shocked by this attack at all. in a city that was relatively safe until today. >> the idea that lviv is save is something outsider talk about. when i speak to people in lviv they don't believe it's safe. it's a relatively level of safety. but the country has been bombed all over. and be, you know, the city has been struck now the third time. the first strike was you know just a little under two weeks ago, about 55 kilometers away, 40 miles. and the other about three miles away. about a week ago. the idea that lviv is safe lass not been in play for some time. the mayor said a missile could fall out of the sky at any moment. he said the city is just as safe

or unsafe sass itty and vladimir putin has proven that daily. there is no sense of safety here. there is a stents of stoicism, a sense of anxiety. i was with a plan who was driving me as we go to bunker his main karen rowe concern for for his family. he was from kyiv. he relocated to la leave with his family and he was concerned about his children on their own at the time. the anxiety is high here. millions of ukrainians are coming from hardship and understand what's happening around the country. there is no sense of safety here particularly, yasmin. >> does that mean then that they -- you feel as if these ukrainians want to leave? because so far they have stayed -- stayed i should say despite the fact that there is no relative safety. >> well, i think the proof is ukrainians are fighting for their country and their freedom, fighting for their democracy that's why the world fleeds to

help because the amount of bravery they have shown against putin's war machine is extraordinary. they are rallying to the president in the opening days into the second month of the ware. no victory in site for putin. that's why the missile attacks as horrific as it is to civilian targets hit. right next to civilian buildings and could have easily hit the civilian buildings. these attacks areo by putin a war crimes, disgraceful, also a demonstration of his desperation and frustration at the ukrainian resistance. while 3.5 million ukrainian left and 10 million displaced there are who million ukrainians helping fight and supporting the efforts in the east, north and south of the country. you see reversals in area where russian like kherson they are losing control. kyiv they are losing control of the northwest and east of the city there. the russians have been pushed back. and that's why putin is indiscriminately striking parts

of the country. his reach is deep but it's also frustration. and he is sending a message to biden and the west not to support ukrainians. but the ukrainians through their actions are demanding support and the support should continue. >> misha zelenskyy. thank you. we'll be right back. zelenskyy thank you. we'll be right back. what happens when performance... meets power? you try crazy things... ...because you're crazy... ...and you like it. you get bigger... ...badder...

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severely would you pleased peep trapped. the city near the belarusian border has under constant attack. we have more on the instrument of for those trapped inside. >> translator: this is the last route in or out, across an open field where every vehicle can be a target. the city is surrounded on three sides by russian troops at this point. there's a stream of cars ferrying the civilians out of the combat zone. the window to get across the last pedestrian bridge is rapidly closing, but the russians have spotted this escape routes. minute after we arrive, they hit it. [ explosions ] >> reporter: the shelling is very close. >> get down, get in, get in.

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