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across the globe. including the star who originally performed it, broadway is adina menzel who said, quote, we see you, we really see you. that's all the time i have today. i'm alicia menendez, and we will see you back tomorrow at 6 pm eastern. for now, i hand it over to michael steele. hello, michael. >> hey, how are you doing? good to see you tonight. >> good to see you. i have to get home so i can watch your show. >> all right, now, hurry up now. you're going to miss the moment! good evening, i'm michael steele in for ayman mohyeldin. tonight, be not afraid. those were their words president biden used to begin a historic address to the people of ukraine. amid what he called the cruelty and brutality of russia's unjust war, biden speaking a neighboring poland framed the conflict as a battle between freedom and totalitarianism. >> in the struggle for democracy and freedom, ukraine and its people are on the frontlines, fighting to save
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their nation. and their brave resistance is part of a larger fight, for an essential democratic principle that unite all free people. my message to the people of ukraine is a message i delivered today to ukraine's foreign minister and defense minister who i believe are here tonight. we stand with you! period! >> and biden had a strong message for vladimir putin. >> we don't even think about moving on one single inch of nato territory. we have a sacred obligation, we have a sacred obligation to defend each and every inch of nato territory! for the full force of our collective power. >> biden was clear, the war won't be over anytime soon. >> in this battle, we need to
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be clear eyed. this battle will not be worn in days or months either. we need to steal ourselves for a long fight ahead. >> moments before the speech began, a series of explosions rocked the city of lviv, about 50 miles from the polish border. ukrainian military officials confirm that two of these explosions were russian missile strikes. let's go now to get more on the russian missile strike. joining me now from the ground in v, ukraine, is nbc's cal perry. cal, what are you hearing on the ground right now? >> michael, it was about nine hours, go just after 4:30 pm,, local about 45 minutes before president biden spoke, and we heard those explosions. we know now that the first site was a fuel depot, some sort of fuel or oil depot. and the russians are saying they were willing to strike anywhere in this country. and you are seeing the
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aftermath of the first explosions. about three hours after the first strikes, we had a second series of strikes heard here in the city. and we understand that it was some kind of military factory. the government is being intentionally vague when they say military factory. they do want to give up any information about the strike and wet possibly was hit. we think it was cruise missiles, michael. but we're still waiting for confirmation on. that, again this is only the third strike we've heard since the beginning of the war. it was about a week ago when the airport, or at least the site close to the airport, was hit. and the messaging not lost on folks. the timing certainly not lost on folks. the airstrike happening before president biden's trip spoke, and a second strike happening an hour after he finished his speech in poland, michael. >> cal perry, thank you very much. be safe, my friend. let's go now to poland. nbc's deshaun burns is and kraków. dasha, what can you tell us about the growing refugee crisis caused by the war, the effects you are seeing there on the ground? >> yes.
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michael, the people we've been speaking to here, in the mix of emotions that they are experiencing, are unimaginable unless you are actually in their shoes right now. but, within that makes, there's pain and fear. fear, not for their own safety, but fear for the future of their country. and fear for the people that they left behind. and i will tell you almost everyone you talked to here, mostly mothers, have left someone behind. typically their husbands, their parents, so many loved ones in ukraine. and they think about them ever single day. there is also a feeling of guilt, for a lot of people. guilt that they're able to make it here safely. and that so many others have been harmed in this war. but amid all of that, there is also an immense sense of gratitude. gratitude to the generosity of the polish people, and i will tell you, it continues to amaze me that so much of this effort to help refugees is not coming
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from the government or from massive organizations or ngos, they are doing a lot, absolutely, but the vast majority of the help is coming from every day polish people who are taking families into their own homes. one of the folks who has benefited from this generosity is a woman we match named all olena. she originally spoke to nbc exactly a week ago across the border, in lviv. she spoke to my colleague ali arouzi. she told him that she had a very eventful week in february when she celebrated as a birthday, got a new job, and putin invaded her country. she is now living here in poland with strangers, friends, a friends, of friends who were gracious enough to take her in. take a listen to what she has to say about her polish neighbors here. >> these people are showing us the unimaginable kindness. and i really hope that this
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kind of relationship between ukraine and poland will never end. but i also hope that there will never be a time in their history when they will call for help in return. i just hope that they will not need that. >> but you know, michael, there is some fair when you talk to polish people that this conflict, it's right on their doorstep and they are concerns that the shoe could be on the other foot. when i asked folks if the generosity that we are seeing here, if a small part of that comes from the idea that it's not impossible that they could see this happen on their territory as well. they say, yes, that is something that they are concerned about, right now, michael. >> dasha burns, thank you very much. be safe. let's turn now to a member of ukrainian parliament.
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he was with president zelenskyy's party. and igor novackov, former zelenskyy advisor. what was your reaction to the president speech? >> first of all, we are always grateful to president biden since he makes very strong case to ukraine and we are always well thankful to the presidents and the taxpayers were. we know this is a lot of money, even in the united states. but we think that more needs to be. that of course, we will never stop asking, not just for additional aid but for additional diplomatic efforts and for additional armors, because this is not just about ukraine. as -- people in poland and other countries are also afraid because currently, it's not only about ukraine. the whole structure, the world
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order, is being challenged. so for the first time since the second world war, the countries being invaded and borders are being changed by force. so this is the situation we're in. >> igor, what did you hear and biden's speech? and more importantly, where there things that you did not hear that you are hoping to hear? >> well, first of all, i was very reminiscent of the famous iron curtain speech that churchill delivered in missouri, if i'm not mistaken. and it was a very strong speech, in my opinion. it is only one thing missing. speeches don't win wars. so hopefully, equally strong actions will follow an impressive speech. so far so good, but we need to win this war forever. >> so maryan one of these actions that igor referred to was the additional one billion
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dollars in assistance. the u.s. committed itself to welcoming 100,000 refugees fleeing the war. what's more, in your view, does ukraine need at this point from the u.s. and nato? >> arms. the more arms the better. because ultimately, the number of refugees will be decided on the battlefield. we have still not received the type of weapons that will help us shoot down the russian airplanes. we need much more powerful weapons to stop them. i think, if we do have enough weaponry, then we will stop them because, at the moment, russia's military budget is 12 times that of ukraine. so ukraine, prior to the, war was spending, in a year, what russia was spending in one month. without having significant -- are president said we need bullets and ammunition.
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>> igor, to that point, the washington post is reporting that ukrainian officials were very disappointed in the outcome of the emergency nato and eu summits this week. president zelenskyy's chief of staff is quoted saying, we expected more bravery. we expected some bold decisions. what is your sense of how president zelenskyy is feeling about all of this right now? >> you'll have to ask president zelenskyy of how he's feeling, but i've been working with envy -- with the stuff for a long while, if i'm not mistaken, a [inaudible] defense system senseless ring. basically, the outcome on the buffalo field is decided by soldiers and we're making up for that difference in budgets and military the hardware in lives of ukrainian soldiers.
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we really don't have to. those lives need to be saved. look, here's the sentiment coming out of poland, let me show you, at least from the civil society kind of point of view, if poland is ever attacked, we don't need governments, we don't need any long meetings to decide what we will do next. we will come to the help as they did for us. >> that's an important point. and what was your assessment of the nato and eu meetings this week? were you expecting -- what were you expecting from the meetings and what did you see that may have been somewhat disappointing? >> well, we do expect stronger weapons will be delivered to ukraine because that's all that members. humanitarian aid helps that's great. but if we don't have enough weapons that will help us successfully tackle russians,
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there will be even more refugees. we need to -- something comparable to patriot missiles. as the president said, all we need is 1% of nato airplanes and 1% of nato firepower here in ukraine, and we will for sure fend off russians very quickly. and it will not even -- it will be much quicker. even with the current weapons, we destroyed more than 500 russian tanks. they are crumbling. we just need more powerful weapons. >> maryan zablotskyy and igor novikov, thank you both very much and be safe. next, reaction to the president speech from here at home. plus, a moving moment at this week's supreme court confirmation hearing we think you should see. stick around. we gotta tell people that liberty mutual
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for the g7, for the european union, for all freedom loving nations, we must commit now to being in this fight for the long haul. we must remain unified today and tomorrow, and the day after, and for the years and decades to come. >> joining me now, bill taylor, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine and emmy harding, senior fellow and deputy director of the international security -- international studies. welcome to you both. ambassador taylor, let's start with you. what was your reaction to the presidents speech today? you have a particular, unique view in this kind of moment. >> thank you, michael. i was very impressed. i thought president biden gave a powerful speech. he clearly meant it, he felt it, there was a lot of emotion there, a lot of urgency there.
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he made the case for the long term that we are going to be this in for a while. but he also made the case for now. and he addressed ukrainians. he addressed europeans. he addressed the russian people. he addressed the issues of the minute, and of the hour, and off the next month and year. i thought that was a very powerful speech that he gave today. >> so, emily, what struck me about the speech was, 25 years ago, then senator biden was clear that it was europe's responsibility to defend itself. now he finds himself trying to walk that line between supporting ukraine and keeping the u.s. out of an active war with russia. what do you think of that approach and doesn't work? >> i think in general good
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things happen when america leads. and that was his message on this trip. he was trying to say that we are unified as nato, we are unified as europeans and friends of europe, but most importantly, we are unified as democracies. he really painted this as a struggle between the future of authoritarianism of the future of democracy, and tried to say that the democracy is going to win because, as he put, it right makes might. he was talking about how we are rights as democracies. he was flipping that phrase on its. had and i thought that was a powerful. line in addition to the way he spoke directly to the polish people, and you sum somebody that was really important to pull, and i thought that was a quite impressive way to go about it. >> the president is putting a
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lot of energy in pressing the point to the polish people and having that sort of rebound to the ukrainian people. do you anticipate a more active role for the united states as this conflict moves on? >> i think the united states is already playing an active role. the united states has stepped up to lead this coalition, as emily just said. there's a broad coalition, it's not just in europe, it's around the world. it's -- put on sanctions and the requirement for sanctions to be effective is that they are put on by a range of nations around the world. so i think the united states is leading that. it's been a major, a major diplomatic effort. a diplomatic surge, doug lute talked about. i've never seen a sustained, consistent, strong, broad effort on the part of diplomats to bring all the nations around. so, yes, i think the united states has stepped up. it's probably surprised president putin. it's probably surprised president xi, who's undoubtedly watching this. so i think the united states leadership is something that we are going to be proud of. >> emily, the ambassador raises an interesting point because there are some sticky parts to all of that. and it certainly is no doubt sticking with the commitment of the u.s. to hosting up to 100,000 ukrainian refugees. in addition to billions of
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dollars in humanitarian food and food aid, we how do you think that's going to play, and is not going to be enough? we're looking at a possibility of another hundred thousand later on? >> i think we're absolutely looking at a possibility for
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another hundred thousand later. on if you think about just the size of ukraine in the number of people who have already fled. police already hosting upwards of 2 million refugees. other countries are hosting just as many. i think there are more to come. especially following the bombings in lviv. you're probably gonna see more people trying to get out of the country, and they probably should go. and we need to open our doors to those people. 100,000 is the first drop and what i'm hoping is a big bucket and we will invite many more. >> bill, as you, know ukraine has lived large in u.s. foreign policy even before this particular invasion. that relationship that we have with ukraine, but his role also not being a part of nato. what's your outlook on the state of the u.s., ukraine relationship going forward? >> i think that this is the right question to ask. how do we interact? what is our role in ukraine going forward? president zelenskyy has decided, has figure it out, that nato is not going to be the agency, the entity, the treaty that is going to provide his security. he thought that nato was going to be the answer. he wants security for his people, for his country, for his nation. it's not going to be nato. at least not now. so he's looking for other ways to secure his country. and, he's looking at other models. one model, michael, is wet the
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austrians have. they are not a nato, they are in the eu. they are not a member of any defensive organization, alliance. but they -- they need, and ukraine needs, discussed your question, ukraine needs assurances, security guarantees that if they adopt a neutral status, like austria, that they won't be invaded again. and they've had some bad experience with this kind of an insurance before. it needs to be stronger than that. so the united states needs to think about how it can guarantee ukraine security going forward. >> so, emily, you know that the juicy bits are necessarily always in the scripted moment. the president made this apparently ad libbed remark today. listen. >> ukraine will never be a victory for russia. the ukrainian people refused to live in a world of hopelessness and darkness. we will have a brighter future, hope and lights, decency and dignity and freedom of possibilities, for god sake,
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this man cannot remain in power. >> the white house, of course, clarified, he was not talking about regime change, but could putin's retaliation come in the form of more russian interference in domestic politics? would you see happening there? >> i am concerned that this might be a problem. i have staffed presidents and multiple senators and cabinet secretaries, and something always goes wrong. as a stuffer, you just cringe behind them and think, oh, boy i'm going to have to clean this one up. i really think that they are in cleanup mode right now. clearly, this was biden doing one of his ad libs that he occasionally dubs. before the, or what he talked about, if it was a minor incursion, this is another one of those where he may have pulled the curtain back a little bit on what he thinks. but does he -- was he calling for a regime change in russia? absolutely. not was he suggesting that america would somewhat advocate for a regime change in russia? absolutely not. i would expect that there would be some consternation in the kremlin tonight. and it will be some talk of retaliation.
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putin doesn't joy me reaching for miss and disinformation for weapon of choice. but meridian highly learned for those things. so i'm not sure it's gonna make a huge difference. >> bill, but the 30 seconds we have left, wet is your reaction -- you're seeing the ambassador from ukraine, what would you do? >> michael, this was clearly something that joe biden, not even president biden, joe biden, feels. he said what he believes. i don't think it's a statement of u.s. policy. i think it's more -- a moral statement. it was a statement of -- it gets to the point of right and wrong. it was a moral statement that made it clear, there is a black and white issue here. there is a right and wrong in this issue. so if i were in ukraine right
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business in support of vladimir putin, you cannot remain in business with the united states government. for more, we're joined by congresswoman, carolyn maloney, the chair of the oversight, house oversight committee. and the one who introduced the legislation. welcome, congresswoman maloney. it's great to have you. so before we -- >> thank you. >> excellent. before we get into your bill, i want to get your reaction to the presidents trip so far, and his speech today. >> i think that president biden delivered an excellent and a historic speech. it was a speech that reassured and reunited our allies, and it made clear that we stand with the people of ukraine. it was a powerful speech, and solved a trip that underscores and restores trust in american leadership in europe and around the world. >> so let's now focus on your legislation.
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what do you hope to accomplish with this bill? if you're doing business with putin, you're not doing business with us? >> you made it very clear. that's exactly what the bill does. when president zelenskyy addressed us, he made it clear, he said that, cut off the loopholes. he begged us for cutting off the oil and the gas, and for the sanctions. he said it wasn't enough. he needed more aid. he needed more support. and he said any dollar going to russia's drenched in the blood of the ukrainian people. and he asked us to close the loopholes. and i went back and i found a huge loophole, private contracting that we do in federal government. we let over 650 billion dollars a year in private contracts. we're tracking it now. we think 26 billion of that is going to companies doing business with russia. and for this, it would say that
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if you're doing business with russia, you're not gonna be doing business with united states. >> your point, your legislation is not straight-up ban on american companies doing business in russia. it would apply only to those contracts. so what more do you think could be done to encourage american companies to exit that russian market? >> well, i am very encouraged by the response of the private sector. they are called in, they're saying, giving guidance on how they can remove their economic ties. many of them have already pulled out. the numbers that we have they changed daily, as american companies pull out of russia. they want very much to support congress, the united states of america, the republicans and democrats, we are united in supporting the ukrainian people. and they want to also, they're taking it very seriously and very encouraging by the response so far.
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>> so we've seen president zelenskyy himself sort of step up the pressure this week. president zelenskyy called out french companies, including automaker renault, saying they are sponsoring the russian war machine by staying in russia. what do you make of zelenskyy's public campaign to encourage companies to exit the russian market? should we see more of that? and how do you think that plays out? >> well, he's fighting for his country. he is trying to cut off any type of aid going to russia at this point, because they invaded his country, and he's fighting with everything he has. and if you can cut off the money going to russia, then there is less money to spend attacking ukrainian people. i think he has been an incredible leader. and i am really reassured by how swiftly our allies inside europe and asia united with us, in support of the ukrainian people. >> so i want to get your thoughts on a report out of the
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wall street journal, that the u.s. is expected to announce new sanctions against russian companies that provide technology for russian military and intelligence services. do you know anything about that? and what impact do you think something like that may have? >> i think it all has a tremendous impact. and why in the world should we be giving technology to russia, when they invaded their neighbor and have this brutal war they initiated? so we are trying to cut off those sanctions, we are trying to strengthen them every day. my bill is part of the overall effort to cut off american taxpayers in any way helping russia with their vicious attacks. and technology, cutting off technology, i think that's an excellent idea. and i would vote for you tomorrow when i come back, as they put on the floor. >> well, we look forward to that, congresswoman. for sure.
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experiences are her lived experiences. in the supreme courts 233 year history, there has never been a black woman confirmed to the bench. and at only five out of the hundred and 50 justices have been woman. judge jackson is one of just 70 black women who have ever served as a federal judge. that's less than 2% of the total federal judiciary. it's time for the highest court of the land to reflect the people it represents just a little bit more, because as senator booker said, well, we will all be better for it. >> when that final vote happens, and you are sent on to the highest court in the land, i'm gonna rejoice! and gonna tell you right now, the greatest country in the world, the united states of america, will be better because of you.
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jackson as she joined her supreme court confirmation hearing. joining me now, our melissa murray, msnbc legal analyst. and former clerical judge, dana bowen matthew. she is a professor at george washington university of law school. welcome to you both. dana, what more stood out to you the most? >> well, the one that we just saw, i share senator booker's view that i will not let anyone steal the joy of this moment. you know, when judge jackson referenced constant baker in her introduction, she was making a statement about the fact that she is going to be the first woman to be sent to the supreme court that is black. she's not the first qualified woman, not by far. the first black woman lawyer was charlotte ring. that was 150 years ago. she became the first lawyer
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admitted to the united states. jalen bolden, 83 years ago, she became the first black woman judge. judge constant baker motley, when judge jackson referred to in her opening statement, was able to argue nine cases before the supreme court. 60 years ago, judge julia cooper back wrote 400 opinions as an appellate federal court judge. none of these black women ascended to the bench. it is, i think an irony that some say affirmative action is the reason that judge jackson's ascending, in my view. it is affirmative action that kept a black woman off the court for so many centuries, and it isn't until now, 2022, that we will experience this triumph. >> melissa, to the point about what some may be saying about that, i know you caught that side eye. judge jackson gave some republicans. you know the look, i know it well. [laughs] i can tell you, every black man
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in america knows that look very well. what were you thinking during that questioning of her, when you see that look come on her face? >> well, i think you're exactly right, michael. this is a look that most black people in professional america know well. that moment where you pause and your better angels and the ancestors whisper in your ear, and tell you, don't risk it all for this. and it was that. but i will say, she was incredibly composed, that moment when she was somewhat tearful with senator booker was the sort of moment of vulnerability, and it came after what was an incredible barrage of disrespectful questions that really had no point other than to score political pop shots. again, this is perhaps the most nominee we have seen in recent years. she is eminently qualified, and what we saw from the republicans, really just acting like jerks.
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being completely disrespectful to her asking questions that really have no point, trying to manufacture objections, so that they could not vote for her now, even though a year ago, they voted for her when she was nominated to the circuit court. so a lot of political theater, but in the middle of it all, the star who is on center stage was judge jackson herself. >> you just recited if you of the black women legal pioneers in the law. but only 5% of first year law students are black women. and just over 3% are associates in law firms, and less than 1% are partners. what does that say about the historic nature of this nomination? and what it may portend for the future? >> it says volumes, to be honest, that we now have someone to show that this can be done. we now have an example of the ceilings that can be broken against all the odds. as melissa said, the composure,
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the professionalism, no notes. hours upon hours of questioning and total recall of cases whether they were antitrust law, second amendment, fourth amendment, first amendment cases. this is a judge with an enormous command and fundamental knowledge. and she makes us all proud, and stands as an example to all black women in my circles, that we also can do it. to the young girls that are just now deciding what their goals are, you can do this too. it has such historic meaning. and i think, for decades, it will inspire us all. >> melissa, to dana's point, they spoke to a black woman throughout the country after the hearings. one drew on her own experience as an attorney saying, quote, you do all the things that you're supposed to do, you go to the right schools and still, you can be treated like
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somebody who is an interloper, and who has no right to sit in the seat that she's getting. can you relate to what judge jackson went through this week? >> undoubtedly. i think dana can relate to this as well. as a black woman in academia, we are often the only ones in the room. when i was the interim dean of barkley law, i was the first black woman to lead a top law school at that time. so we're always, i think, first but the most important thing that we're not last. so dana is a among many black women deans who have been appointed in recent years, in the wake of my appointment. so this is just spending exponentially. and judge jackson is only the tip of the iceberg. he's going to inspire and influence the next generation of black women, lawyers. and it's gonna be a phenomenal generation. is already beginning to do this work. she talked about the letter she's received from young black girls. she's really going to be an inspiration. and really, i think we're going to see the ketanji effect going forward, in the legal profession. >> so dana, listen for a moment
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to what judge jackson said about being a role model. take a listen. >> one of the things that having diverse members in the court does is it provides for the opportunity for role models. since i was nominated to this position, i have received so many notes and letters, and photos from little girls around the country, who tell me that they are so excited for this opportunity. and that they have thought about the law in new ways because i am a woman, because i am a black woman. >> how do you react to that? how do you process that? >> i'm proud. i'm excited. i'm moved.
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she inspires me. today, i met with a group called the coalition of 100 black women, and we were talking about topics, completely apart. but we could not help ourselves but to celebrate for a few moments, the accomplishments and achievements of us all. and you know why again? it is because we are aware that this is an example of the kind of talent, the kind of expertise that's been overlooked for centuries. she is not the first that is qualified. she is not the first that can break these barriers. she's been the first that has been allowed to, and i like as it was said. this is just the tip of the iceberg. >> melissa murray and dayna bowen matthew, thank you both. really, really appreciate it. next, could the wife of a supreme court justice be the next witness subpoenaed by the january six committee? does daily stress leave you feeling out of sync?
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has gone quiet in the last few weeks, but i have a feeling that they're gonna be making a lot of noise again very soon. thanks to two rather unexpected players on the 2020 election drama taking center stage. first, alabama congressman, moe brooks. a longtime trump ally who claimed this week that trump repeatedly asked him to illegally rescind the election results, and remove joe biden from office.
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brooks refused because that obviously can't be done. but it didn't stop trump from asking again, and again. then, there is ginni thomas. this week, the washington post released texts obtained by the january six committee between thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, and former white house chief of staff mark meadows. apparently, ginni thomas was thinking along the same lines as trump. she urged mark meadows to pursue unrelenting efforts to overturn the 2020 election. and what more? she was made these pleas, just weeks before her husband ruled on a court case, related to the election. now, the big question is this, when will mow brooks and ginni thomas be subpoenaed by the january six committee? as rachel says, watch this space.
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>> today, president biden sent a clear message to vladimir putin, don't even think about attacking nato territory. today, in warsaw, poland, biden made references to the cold war, and called on western leaders to remain unified against a russian called on western leaders to remain unified against the russian assault on a democratic ukraine. >> all of us, including here in poland, must do the hard work of democracy every day, my country, as well. that's why -- that's why i came to europe again this week with a clear and determined message for nato, for the g7, for the european union, for all freedom-loving nations. we must commit now to be in this fight for the long haul. we must remain unified today and tomorrow and the day after.

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