>> today, president biden sent a clear message to vladimir putin, don't even think about attacking nato territory. today, in warsaw, poland, biden made references to the cold war, and called on western leaders to remain unified against a russian called on western leaders to remain unified against the russian assault on a democratic ukraine. >> all of us, including here in poland, must do the hard work of democracy every day, my country, as well. that's why -- that's why i came to europe again this week with a clear and determined message for nato, for the g7, for the european union, for all freedom-loving nations. we must commit now to be in this fight for the long haul. we must remain unified today and tomorrow and the day after.

and for the years and decades to come. it will not be easy. there will be cost. but it's a price we have to pay, because the darkness that drive s is ultimately no match for the liberty of people everywhere. >> a series of explosions hit lviv. two were later confirmed to be russian missile strikes. let's go straight to lviv, where residents have been ordered to shelter in place following those explosions. and that's where we find nbc's kyle perry. kyle, what's the latest that you can tell us, buddy? >> reporter: so, michael, we had those multiple strikes, as you said, that first one coming just about 45 minutes before president biden spoke. we now know the target of that strike. there's a fuel depot about two miles from where i am, it seems

like that was directly impacted. not clear if it's still burning at this hour. the strike about 11 hours ago, but it put, as you can see, that thick, black smoke billowing over the city of lviv. the second strike was a defense factory. they don't want us to know exactly what was hit. it's not clear if there were any injuries in the second strike. at least five people wounded on the first strike. hitting just before and after president biden spoke, and the ability by russia to say they can strike deep into the western part of this country. it is the western part of the country where we're seeing the support flowing eastward. it is the place where nato countries are starting to arm the eastern part of the country. and the other concern, there was concern amongst aid organizations that the 300,000 refugees who had taken shelter

temporarily in this city could be sort of spurred on by these air strikes to make their way to poland. it could cause, as they said, sort of a second wave of refugees. that is certainly a concern here on the ground, michael. >> kyle perry, live in ukraine for us. thank you so much. joining us now from krakow, poland, nbc's dasha burns. >> reporter: michael, the president talked about the long haul, talked about this being more than days, more than months, likely, that the world and poland and, of course, ukraine, will be going through all of this and the folks that we're talking to here, the ukrainian refugees, are conflicted about what to do with themselves, because on the one hand, they need to provide some sort of normalcy for their children, get kids in school, try to live life. at the same time, people are

conflicted about starting to build a life, whether it's here in poland, other eu countries, america, 100,000 visa announcement came from the president, as well. how do you juggle those two things? you want to be close to home, at the same time, you need to find a way to find a new home while your home is being invaded. and that is a feeling that we heard from olena, a woman we met, nbc actually first talked to across the border in lviv, where my colleague kyle perry is, and we met her as she crossed the border here into poland. and she told me, she feels immense guilt for being here, for being safe, while so many others in her home country are not and she wondered what it would be like to go back home, what her home would look like. and her biggest fear, michael, is that ukraine would be occupied, would be ruled by putin. she said she would not go back to a ukraine that was under

putin's control. amid all of that, though, she is so grateful for the generosity of the polish people. take a listen to what she told me about this. >> but these people are showing us the immeasurable kindness. and i really hope that this kind of relationship between ukraine and poland will never end. but i also hope that there will never be time in their history when they will come for help in return. i just hope that they will not need that. >> reporter: yeah, michael, the whole world impacted by this, invested in this, but poland, especially. and i can't tell you how much this has truly been a grass roots, bottom up effort. the government is helping, ngos here are helping, but it really has come from everyday polish people, that true support, the homes, the doors that have opened, the donations that have

come, have been from families that can see themselves -- can see the shoe on the other foot, that are taking in folks like olena there, michael. >> nbc's dasha burns in poland. thank you so much. let's go to our saturday night panel, christopher miller is an assistant professor of international history at tufts university, and the author of "putinomics." jennifer ruben is an msnbc analyst. and eugene daniels is a white house reporter for politico, coauthor of "playbook" and msnbc political contributor. thank you all for being with us. chris, your reaction to president biden's speech today? >> the president struck a note of unity with european allies, emphasizes the costs that are in the future and i think that's

the right teen to strike, because there are a lot of costs ahead, both in terms of the refugees that need to be supported, the economic cost of sanctions and the reality that there's no plan to end this war any time soon and no sign that putin's giving up, so, it was a sobering message, i think, from the president, but the reality, as we saw from krakow and lviv, not a lot of good news coming from ukraine right now. >> so, jennifer, to chris's point, you know, striking that right tone took a little bit of work and biden's speech came after an important few days for him after meetings with nato and eu leaders. how would you grade this trip so far? >> i think it's really been a success. this in some ways was the third great cold war speech. you go back to jfk in 1963 at the brandenburg gate, if you go back to ronald reagan, again back at the brandenburg gate, and biden also in a public

square, on the outskirts, if you will, on the border of democracy, with a -- in this case, russia, those previous addresses, the soviet union, and it's really a call to democracies, it's a call to stand shoulder to shoulder and it's an understanding that as jfk said, this is a long twilight struggle. this is not going to be solved in a day or a week. although we have seen a tremendous effort by the ukrainian people, when this fighting eventually ends, and it will, their country will be devastated. and the west will have to band together to help them rebuild, to help them put their lives back together, but i do want to say, from that very moving report you just saw, there's going to be historic memories that are passed down generation to generation. the poles and the ukrainians will be locked at the hip. the ukrainians are not fog to

forget what the poles did for them. and by the same token, ukraine is not going to forget what russia did to them, and that is going to be a long memory that will be passed down from child to child to child and that hay tread for russia will not cease. >> so, eugene, to both chris and jennifer's point, you've got the tone, you've got the impact on the alliance, nato and europe overall. what do you think the white house was trying to accomplish with the president's trip this week here at home, politically? what do you think some of those aspects of the mission were? >> yeah, one of the things about any kind of involvement the united states may have, whether it be boots on the ground militarily or funds and funding like we're helping with in ukraine is that americans care most when american lives are at stake. and so, what this administration has been working to do and make sure people understand in this

country is that it's not just about ukraine, right? it is about the danger that -- to the nato countries that are around ukraine. it is about, as the president says, democracy versus autocracy, depends on what day of the week, he says both. so, he's pushing that, because there are effects of this war here at home. we talked for weeks and weeks about inflation, most importantly, gas prices going up and the american people are behind this president. we've seen his numbers tick up over and over in polls as the administration continues their push. and so what they wanted to do with this trip is, one, and probably the most important for the world, is to say, we have not forgotten about article v of nato, we're here to protect you, this is not just a message to the nato countries and here at home, but most importantly, to putin, like you said on the outset, you know, don't try it here. we are going to protect these

countries. and also, when he went to poland, looking at the humanitarian terrors that we've been seening. millions of millios and million leaving their homes. that's the two hits. making sure that everyone understands that america has nato and ukraine and poland's back, but also that as the humanitarian crisis continues to unfold as quickly as it has, that we're going to do what we can, as he said, 100,000 ukrainians will be allowed in the country as refugees, making sure people understand that, as well. >> so, let's pick up on that point, chris. you've got the pledge of 100,000 refugees coming to the u.s., a billion dollars in aid. there's a lot the u.s. has put on the table, our international allies have put on the table, but for zelenskyy, there's a little bit of janet jackson in the air, what have you done for me lately? what do you think the allies, the eu, nato, the u.s., can do more of?

and what should zelenskyy expect from that? >> well, the reality is that ukrainians, i think, are appreciative of the ability to move abroad, but they'd rather stay in ukraine and have the weapons they need to win the war and have more pressure put on putin to end the war. and that's where i think the administration ought to be focusing right now. the refugee work is essential, it's a good thing to be doing, but ultimately, the faster the war is ended on terms that are fair to the ukrainians, the fewer the refugees will be, because ukrainians can stay in their houses and cities. the more pressure we put on russia to end the war, providing military aid to ukrainians, in terms of pressuring russia elsewhere in the world, the more likely putin will come to the table. >> so, jennifer, on thursday, biden said u.s. sanctions on russia were not imposed to deter putin, rather to unite ukraine's

western allies. if sanctions don't deter russia and the u.s. is not going to impose a no-fly zone, what more are we talking about here? what more can be done? >> i think what he said in that speech was essentially correct, which is, it doesn't deter putin, but it weighs upon him. month after month, as his economy goes down the drain, as the oligarchs, as the military see their country being destroyed, decades of progress really destroyed that the pressure will build and build, that he cannot sustain this, particularly if, as we saw this week, the chinese are apparently not aiding them, not providing military assistance. so, there's a cumulative effect that eventually wears russia down. and i must say, it is working. today, we now here these excuses from the russian military that kyiv was just a faint, you know, it was just a distraction. what they really want is the

donbas. of course, they essentially controlled the donbas before this whole thing started. so, if they are reducing their ambitions, that is a signal how badly things are going. and interestingly a signal that putin may understand how badly things are going, that he's not completely cut off from reality. so, you asked earlier, what can we do? more of everything. more of sanctions, more of aid, more of weapons, and i think you're seeing each of our european allies and the united states really step up. >> panel, stick around. we have a lot more to talk about. still ahead, trump claimed he had a secret plan to end the crisis in ukraine, but now that he's given us the details, he probably should have, well, kept it under wraps. first, though, richard here with the headlines. >> michael, good evening. some of the stories we're watching for you first. breaking news, congressman jeff forten berry has resigned after

being found guilty of lying to the fbi. the republican was convicted this week on three felony accounts of lying to federal investigators about illegal campaign contributions from a foreign billionaire. in a letter to house colleagues, forten berry wrote, quote, god bless you as you labor for the good of our country, help those in need, and strive for what is right and just. the congressman said his last day will be march 31st. and we're following two fatal shooting inside shopping malls. one in maryland, the other in illinois. one person was killed in each of those shootings. another victim was critically injured in the illinois shooting. and a person of interest has been arrested there. but police in both states say they're still looking for the shooters. we'll have more right after this break.br eak.

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javelins rings a bell, it's because those weapons were the center of trump's first impeachment trial. see, back in 2019, he tried to leverage those same javelin anti-tank weapons over ukraine in exchange over a madeup scandal about joe biden's son. y'all remember that. chris, jen and eugene are still with us. so, trump's big plan for countering russia in ukraine is threatening to drop a nuclear bammen on russia. can you explain why that's a terrible idea? >> well, i don't think anyone wants a nuclear war between the united states and russia. we certainly heard a lot of nuclear threats from president putin the past couple of weeks who put his nuclear forces on high alert and threatened to escalate, if russia feels threatened in the conflict. i think it's definitely fair to say that the u.s. ought to be pushing back more aggressively against putin's nuclear threats,

reminding the russians that, of course, the u.s. has a comparable arsenal and russia shouldn't think about using any type of nuclear forces in ukraine or anywhere else in the world. it's dangerous rhetoric from the russians and they ought to be put back in their place and reminded they're not the only country with a substantial nuclear force. >> so, this isn't the first time that former president trump has hinted about a secret plan. in 2016, if you recall, he said he had a secret plan to defeat isis. but it never really was revealed or materialized, so who believes this stuff anymore? i mean, what's the point of all of this? >> this is just his natural red meat for the base. i want to just remind your viewers, donald trump tried to extort president zelenskyy. the same guy who is now an international hero, donald trump was strong-arming him, denying him weapons so that, as you

said, he could kick up some kind of dirt on now president biden. every republican who went along with that, every republican who voted to acquit him and trump have a moral stain. and they contributed to a sense that putin had that america was not really all that enamored of nato, that they weren't going to stand with them, that he could waltz into ukraine and somehow separate them from their european allies, so, just a little bit of history there. as far as putin goes, he and biden -- he and trump were joined at the hip. let's not forget that trump was really the best propaganda minister that the russians have had in many, many years. he provided all kinds of justifications for everything from their seizure of crimea, all the way back to their invasion of afghanistan. so, this is just a lot of memory-hoing in an attempt to

whitewash history, but i think it's important for all of us to remember what he did and what republicans did to, frankly, alienate and isolate ukraine at a time, just as it is now, that they badly needed our unwavering support. >> so, eugene, peek ingeugene, history, watching president biden with nato leaders this week, i could not help but think about trump's visit to nato in 2017. now, if you recall, he shoved the prime minister of montenegro out of the way on camera. now, the question is, do you -- how do you think our nato allies are viewing this moment, that trump's not there, that he's not the one in charge during this particular war? >> one of the things that leaders of countries really like america to have is kind of stable rhetoric, to have a

president who is consistent in the things that he says and most importantly, a president who likes nato, right? and donald trump's spent years talking about -- talking down to nato countries, saying that they weren't doing enough, talking about and threatening to pull the united states out of nato. and so, they are more at home with biden, they, you know -- they're talking with him. trips earlier this year, despite the kerr muffles they've had over the time period at the beginning of last year, when he was with emanuel mack cron, he was talking with the other leaders, there's more of a comfort there, that's very obvious, because of the way that donald trump has talked about nato in the past and frankly ho, and to add to jennifer's history lesson there, in 2014, when putin took crimea, part of ukraine, what used to be part of ukraine, trump praised him, and continues to praise him in 2016

for the same thing. and so, that is something that when leaders of nato countries look at how president biden has handled what's been going on, how he's brought them together and whether politicians here in the united states like that idea, that they're praising him, that is what they're doing, they're talking about how he helped to build this coalition together, to have countries do things that they hadn't done before, including giving weapons to ukraine, something like germany, for example, that had not really wanted to do, and how they think trump would have handled it, talking about his secret plans and those plans being kind of dangerous and without up the ante for sure, if he were president, those things were to happen. >> christopher miller, thank you for joining us. jen and eugene, stick with us. we've got a lot coming up. next, should clarence thomas rescue himself from january 6th-related cases? now that we know his wife wanted to overturn the 2020 election?

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msnbc analyst and law professor at the university of michigan law school. so, barbara, i got a two-parter for you. first, could ginni thomas be in any legal trouble and second, does the january 6th committee have a case to subpoena her? >> so, i think the answer is yes and yes. when you say in any trouble, i don't know that she faces legal repercussions, but this really feels like an invitation to a subpoena, doesn't it? they want to find out everything that happened related to the events of january 6th. and if she was there, someone that was putting a lot of pressure on the white house and mark meadows, i think that we want to see the rest of those documents and call her as a witness. yes to the subpoena, and not only for her to come and testify, but i want to see the rest of those messages. part of the reporting is there's a flurry of texts between her and mark meadows in the month of november and they abruptly stop and we don't see them again

until january 6th. so, is that because mark meadows stopped cooperating and he's holding some back and he didn't produce them or did they really just stop at that point? we don't know, because mark meadows has stopped cooperating. the justice department needs to use a search warrant to get these, because then they don't have to rely on the good graces. >> well, that justice department piece opens up a whole other door, for sure. but jennifer, the bottom line is, we got to be honest about this, clarence thomas isn't going to step down, that's just not going to happen. there are not enough votes in the senate to impeach him, so what is all of this about? is this more sizzle than steak? >> well, i think there are two parts to this. one, i want your viewers to understand how crazy this is. all the nuttery, the bamboo

fibers, to the kraken, she is an educated woman, she's a wife of the justice of the united states supreme court and she believes this stuff? this shows you the degree to which the republican party has marinated in this toxic soup of crazy for all of these years. and if you think the problem is just some uneducated person out there in the heartland -- no. it goes all the way up to the top of the elites, the supposed elites of the republican party. so, i think first of all, it's a political statement on how crazy this party has become and what a threat they are to democracy, but i think the second issue is, clarence thomas, like all justices of the supreme courts has only one thing at his disposal. she doesn't have an army, he doesn't have an enforcement force out there. all he has is credibility. and all the court has is credibility. and if the american people see that in two cases, one involving a request to throw out a bunch

of states that biden won and another on challenging the national archives that was going to turn over information to the january 6th committee, if he sat on both of those knowing that his wife was involved in all of this craziness, in the very plot to reverse the election, that is by anybody's definition a major conflict of interest. so, it's not just a problem for him, it's a problem for the entire supreme court and for the chief justice, who has been struggling to maintain the integrity of his institution. so, i think this is not only a problem from clarence thomas, this is a problem for justice -- chief justice roberts and perhaps they can clean this up going forward, but they also have a problem in the rearview mirror, which is a couple cases where it sure looks like he ruled in cases in which his wife was, shall we say involved, in the actions. and by the way, she does mention

that she talked to her best friend about these events and her best friend is widely known to be clarence thomas. >> interesting point. but there are cases potentially out there, barbara, so, even if he won't, can we at least get on the record, should clarence thomas recuse himself from the january 6th-related cases? >> well, i think most of us would say the answer is yes. it gets more copicated because of the way the rules work on the supreme court. and there is a lot of deference to the decisions of the supreme court as one of the three branches of government, that we don't want to have heavy-handed rules restricting them, but nonetheless, for him to stay on, as jennifer just said, would so undermine the credibility of the court. it's already reeling and playing defense and to have him being -- deciding cases that could have an impact on his wife, i think, is really deeply disturbing. lower courts have this much higher bar that they have to surmount before they can stay on a case and decide a case.

a judge should recuse himself not only if there's an actual conflict of interest, like a financial stake for a family member or their spouse is an actual party to the lawsuit, but if there is an appearance of a conflict of interest. that is, you know, they're impartiality could be questioned by a member of the public. if that's the case, judges at the district court level are supposed to recuse themselves. they don't have that at the supreme court and i think there's been a lot of push for the supreme court to adopt those more stringent rules and this is the kind of thing, if chief justice roberts really cares about the legitimacy of the supreme court, maybe it's time to reconsider that, because if we see clarence thomas deciding these cases and as jennifer said, we already know of at least one, he is the sole dissenter on the case in which donald trump challenged the documents that were being produced by the national archives to the january 6th committee by asserting executive privilege. all eight other justices said that's nonsense and they should

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if you expected this week's confirmation hearings for judge ketanji brown jackson to be in any way civil, think again. instead of questioning the historic knock knee on the substance of her record, republicans spent their time spotting some of the gop's greating hits. dog whistling to qanon and raving about her -- their other favorite boogeyman, critical race theory. as "the washington post" points out, the hearing served as a platform to prove their mettle to gop voters who might see their names on a presidential primary ballot. joining the discussion, michelle goodwin, professor of law at the university of california-irvine. and an executive committee member for the acla. barbara and eugene are back with me. so, michelle, before we get to the bad and the ugly, let's start with the good.

talk about this historic moment and what this week -- this week meant to you. >> so, the good is that judge jackson is so overwhelmingly qualified for this role, in fact, more qualified than many other of the sitting supreme court members when they were nominated. she clerked at the federal district court level, the federal appellate court level, at the united states supreme court, she's been a judge on the federal district court level, at the court of appeals level, she graduated with distinction from harvard college and also harvard law school. she is a committed servant. she served as a federal public defender, something that is actually a noble point of service. so what is wonderful is that she's overwhelmingly qualified what is wonderful is that look that her daughter gave her of

such tremendous pride and joy. what is wonderful is how senator corey booker captured the amazing joy that is represented in her nomination to the united states supreme court. all of this which can no be taken away by the kind of rabid scorched earth politicking that took place amongst some of the republican members of the senate judiciary committee. >> all right so, michelle, you've done us good with the good, so, let's take a listen listen to what republican senators had to say, a little bad. >> let's focus on actual child pornography cases. >> i am questioning your discretion. >> do you really expect this committee to believe that you don't remember what happened. >> put their ass in jail. >> can you provide a definition for the word woman. >> when you approached these child pornography cases. >> so, on a scale of 1 to 10,

how faithful would you say you are? in terms of religion. >> do you agree with this book that is being taught with kids that babies are racist? >> your reaction? >> this was absolutely horrific. what it showed was a distan for the rule of law and a disregard for the united states constitution, to have a test on how religious she happens to be. these questions about crt should ring alarm bells about the sanctity of the first amendment being trashed by these members of the senate judiciary committee. questions about what is a woman should alarm every person in the united states who cares about substantive due process. and the very notion that substantive due process was on trial, let's be clear that it's through substantive due process that we get racial equality under the law, that we recognize

sex equality under the law, lgbtq equality under the law. when these senators went after her in this regard, they were not only attacking her, they were attacking our rule of law altogether and that's what made this so alarming. >> so, eugene, was this performative politics just an audition for 2024 by republicans? >> no, of course not. they'd never do that. politicians would never do that. that's exactly, michael, what it was. these are folks who are hoping, one, to use what they said and did over the last week in ads going up until whatever next election they have and also so republican voters, especially trump voters, people who believe in some of the conspiracy theories that are connected to qanon, are -- how they're going to view them, how they're going to have their back, because one, everyone on that committee, everyone on this panel, everyone in america knows, that when she

is confirmed, because it does seem like that is most likely to happen, whether she gets republican votes or not, she will be -- there will be no switch of power on the supreme court, right? we all knew that. and so, at the very beginning, leadership on the republican side, they were trying -- they were really trying to not make it about race and not make it about her gender. and then we saw what we saw and that clearly got thrown to the wayside on that panel. because, you know, you talked about dog whistles, you've talked about, you know, the crt, this, is this babiry cyst, things that they knew, she knew, had not come up in her legal -- in front of her as a judge. she said it over and over again, not allowing her to finish their questions. this is how supreme court nomination hearings have gone for awhile, right, auditions for the next presidential election, making sure they can have ads going forward.

and that, we definitely weren't expecting anything but that, even though they did promise that it was going to be a respectful hearing, that wasn't going to happen. >> barbara, all the theatrics aside, and to the broader point that eugene is putting out there, how do you think judge jackson held up? and i guess even more importantly, does this have a chilling effect on future nominees, who sort of look at this and go, why would i want to put myself and my family through that? >> that is a worry, michael. so first, i think she did phenomenally well. in fact, i think if you are just a -- an open-minded american who watched these hearings and saw in stark contrast, her composure compared to the vitriol that she was getting from the senators, i think you couldn't help but to be deeply impressed. she displayed wisdom, she december played patience and she displayed grace. and when you think about the attributes you want in a judge,

it's all of those things. so, i think that was very important and i think if anything, she looked even better. we have all these amazing attributes that professor goodwin just laid out and in addition, we saw her withstand that tirade for several days, including a 13-hour hearing on the first day. so, she did amazingly well and i think she proved her mettle to be even more qualified than we thought she was going in. the chilling effect is real. i've heard from other friends to say, you know, thank god she is the one who is up there going through this, because she's a lot stronger than i could be. and i'm sure there are a lot of highly qualified people who say, i don't need that. i don't need my parents and my children to be in a hearing room to hear somebody put me through all of that. so, i do worry that it has a chilling effect, but i'm hopeful that there are people who have the courage and the strength to rise above, because it says a lot more about those senators than it said about judge jackson to hear the exchange that -- and the show that they put on. i'm hopeful that this will backfire and it will have the kind of effect that will get us

to a place of more civility instead of what we're seeing today. >> michelle, i want to get your thoughts, in the little bit of time we have left, as well, particularly about the chilling effect, when you're looking at the impact on the lawyers who would be coming throug, the lawyers coming through this process. what is your thinking there? >> michael, i'm so glad that you asked this question, because there's also a chilling e if eblgt effect amongst those who represent people who are defendants. the fact that she was asked over and over again questions related to a very narrow set of the jurisprudence she's had reflects really poorly not only on the senate you judiciary committee, that if you do want to go into public service, suddenly now, that comes under attack. and she would be the first person on the united states supreme court to have been a

federal defender. and that is critically important. our first ten amendments of the constitution, the bill of rights, protect people against the tyranny of the state. that is why it is actually so important that we have public servants who work in criminal defense to be in our judiciary. the united states has more people incarcerated in it than any other country in the world, so, it is terrific and perfect that she is poised to go onto the united states supreme court and she will be there. i'm confident of this. >> michelle goodwin, barbara mcquaid and eugene daniels, thank you all for being with us tonight. and your time. before we go, folks, the redistricting disaster in ohio that just won't end for republicans. here, safe driving saves more than just your cargo.

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ohioans anot be able to cast primary votes for state house and senate seats and ohio may need to schedule a second primary for later in the year. now, that move could cost the state up to $25 million. so, ohio republicans have single handedly thrown their entire electoral system out of whack. nice job, everybody. thank you for making time for us. come back tomorrow night at 8:00 eastern on msnbc for a special report with medhi hasan on the global fight for democdemocracy. he'll examine democracy here and abroad. he'll be joined by the french ambassador to the u.s., the people's deputy of ukraine, and many, many more. until we meet again, i'm michael steele. good night. n ight

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politicsnation. tonight's lead, moral authority. right now, president biden is wrapping his european tour, speaking to eastern european countries, speaking and russell, poland just a few hours ago. a message of solidarity, pledged to ukraine