breaking right now on msnbc breaking right now on msnbc, president biden sees this world of nine words. reactions pouring in overnight to this comment on vladimir putin. >> for god sake, this man cannot demand power. >> and, as the kremlin pushes back on the, new showing targets the western part of ukraine despite russian claims that it will be shifting its focus to the east. live reporting from the ground, and what it means for moscow's strategy. plus, as a war rages on ukraine,

fires are getting help from all over the world. we will talk live this morning to somebody overseas training civilians to protect their homeland. and washington, pressure is mounting on supreme court clarence thomas in light of his wife's text messages to trump's inner circle. how all of this could affect the investigation into january 6th. good morning, it is sunday morning 27th, i am cory coffin. president biden returned to the white house overnight after a whirlwind trip overseas. mid to rally support for ukraine. the one part of that trip to the whole world is talking about is just one sense about vladimir putin. >> we will have a different, future a brighter future, democracy in principle and open light, these and see didn't dignity and freedom of possibility. for god's sake, this man cannot demand power. god bless you all. >> the white house immediately tried to walk that back. just hours ago, secretary of state anthony blinken was actively asked about the

comment in jerusalem. but, if you can't put toothpaste back in the two, headlines are focused on those words and what they could mean in reference to the conflict in ukraine going forward, as well as america's relationship with russia. the kremlin certainly took notice. a spokesperson saying, no, that is not for biden to decide. the president of russia is decided by russians. unquote. meanwhile, explosions hit lviv on saturday. not 250 miles from where biden's speech was delivered in warsaw. you will conceive those massive flames after a fuel bubble hits. we will show you that in just a moment. -- they say they targeted the depot in a high security strike because it provides fuel for russian sources. josh is live in. poland joshua's been covering the presence trip. and jacob slovaks is in lviv, a city waking up to that fresh damage. josh, let's begin with you in

the reaction from that comment from president biden. >> certainly, that one line, i loved or not, is over xiao doing the entire rest of president biden's speech. given that the u.s. has walked such a careful line in the last month. they have wanted to be a strong and in some ways aggressive against vladimir putin in order to keep this transatlantic alliance united, and show that the u.s. is really leading efforts to push back on this war. but they are so steadfastly avoided anything that would be seen as escalating this war or bringing this to a new level, with president putin. and that is why you've seen the u.s. avoiding putting troops on the ground, avoiding a no-fly zone, and yes, avoiding calling for a regime change in russia. which is exactly what was perceived as president biden saying when he added those few words about vladimir putin. eyewitness official very quickly after that speech walking aback saying, look, will president biden was trying

to do here it was to say that putin cannot be allowed to exert this kind of influence over his neighbors in europe. not there was a change of policy. then, as you mention, we heard from secretary blinken who was here in poland with the president, but is now in israel. he was giving a news conference with president herzog of israel, where he too said there has been no official change in policy. the u.s. is not calling for president putin to be ousted, per se, but already the response pouring in both from the russians via their spokesman to the kremlin, dimitri peskov, who said look, it is up to the russians to decide who leads russia. he also pushed back against the news agency and comments that biden had made earlier in poland, where he called president putin a butcher. that was something that the kremlin was clearly very concerned about, and said, actually narrowed the path to get diplomacy. we heard from president macron

in fair and true said he would not have use that word, butcher, to describe president putin. everybody should be very careful with, awards he says. but ambassador to ukraine bill taylor, he commented on msnbc and when he thought president biden was really trying to say. take a listen. >> this was clearly something that joe biden, not even president, but joe biden, feels. he said what he believes. i do not believe it is a statement of u.s. policy. i believe it is more a moral statement. it was a statement of -- that gets us to this point, michael, of right and wrong. >> and this is not the first time in this conflict that president biden's sense of the morality, here, of right and wrong, has led him to get a little bit ahead of his schemes. it was just a few weeks ago the president but he said that president putin was a war criminal, that the u.s. was not ready to make that formal designation to his legal ramifications. the u.s. officially caught up a

few days later to that, formally calling president putin a war criminal. but it just goes to show you the way the emotions behind all of the harrowing images we are seeing out of ukraine and under the refugee crisis, is a leading people to be a little bit less careful with their words. potentially with a significant ramifications for escalating a conflict that everyone is trying to tamp down. cori coffin. >> the u.s. government already to make that her line of stands, but you can't ignore the human toll of all of this. let's turn to jacob in ukraine. how are the people in lviv doing after this round of shelling, jacob? >> shocked, dismayed. has now become a relatively peaceful city, hundreds of thousands of internally displaced people traveling from the city. millions, as a matter of fact, going into those countries on nato's eastern flank.

frankly, the life has been turned upside down. the war crime here to lviv last night, and these russian cruise missile attacks both on a fuel depot directly over the hill behind me. you are looking at some footage of that right now. and on when officials say it was a military factory here to be so the where i am standing right now. we were there last night just after the rockets struck that feel deebo. we could see the flames. we can see the smoke ourselves. and i think for the people that have been here in the city, ourselves included, there might have been a sense not of complacency, but i love a wish, a hope, that things would stay relatively peaceful. perhaps out of defiance for the russian attacks, the brutal russian attacks, all over this country. in an instance, things change here. around 4:30 pm local time, yesterday, the aerate sirens sounded, and those arid sirens have been sounding here soon

thereafter almost every time -- there have been four miles outside of town, an aircraft maintenance facility has been hit some weeks back. but that was the closest that the warheads come to the city here in lviv. as i said, that will change yesterday. and i think residents are shocked and dismayed, and i don't know that they know will come next. here is a bit of what we heard some of them say in the aftermath of these attacks. >> one rockets just -- after that, it was the first time. and after a couple of seconds, maybe 30 seconds, bombing. and everybody left to the shelters. >> and then we heard this sound of the explosion. is it glasses was broke from

the sound. we target to be quiet we tried to hide between buildings. >> in a city that have been relatively peaceful, a city close to the border with poland, a city that was relatively speaking, close to the president of the united states and where he was giving his remarks to the world last night, any sense of security here, and isolation from the other parts of this country, in the incredibly brutal war that russia has raged here, that sense of security went away. went away in an instant. today on the street, things are quiet, people are the church playing praying for peace, praying for, safety praying that this war will soon and. >> yes jessica, proving that no territory is off limits for putin. thank you to josh lederman in poland and jocab soboroff in lviv. limburg and our panel talked all. this market jacobson is the assistant dean of the school at

syracuse. and he also served in the u.s. navy reserves. slob nor off is the youngest ever member of the ukrainian parliament. thank you for both of you being in. excuse me, let me try that again. see if as a slob of, i want to start with. you biden wanted to unite the world support on this trip to ukraine. do you think he was able to accomplish that? how you evaluate his trip? >> i think some trips valuing steps, but we are really far from uniting the world in the practical support that we need >> and mark what do you make? >> -- >> apologize, let me have you continue and watch your audio for just a minute. let me hear you continue i'm very interested. >> president zelenskyy in his speech to nato made a very good point that as far as 1% of nato tanks and planes that they

brought to ukraine could be taken to win this. the point is that so much more needs to be done for ukraine to have the ability to win those battles. i was just in a battle written town of western kyiv, in their, help is needed as no time that you can imagine. the point here is a lot more needs to happen, a lot more action in a lot of big words need to happen to make this battle a successful one. >> it's the world continues to focus on the presidents words of versus what action is actually coming out of this. mark, what did you make of biden's comments about putin? you think it was an honest slip? do you think is purposefully said? you think there will be implications here? >> first, let me say the mayor continues to go to the ukrainian people and to mr. heroes and his family. i just have to commend the bravery the ukrainian people have had in the face of the criminal russian invasion. it is an inspiration to the world. to the president's comments, i think what ambassador taylor

said earlier is exactly right. this was a slip up. this was emotional. this is what the president really believes. but again, as our diplomats in chief, as our commander-in-chief, i think it is important that the president has measured words. this is, after all, a tight rope. you have to put enough pressure on vladimir putin and the russians diplomatically to not only keep the war from expanding, but hopefully push the russians to leaving ukraine at the same time. and you have to make sure that you don't give the russians any sort of opening for which they could say, look, now this is a war with the west,, and we could open up everything against them. i think that the west was right to walk this back. i know where the president comes from. it was perhaps better if he never said that, though. >> and -- i understand that you are born in lviv, the latest target of russian missiles.

what do you want the world to know about your hometown? >> my hometown is the center of the most western nation that the ukraine has. it is always makes really pro, eu pro nato, pro integration with u.s.. the idea of the future of my country in my home town was never much of a debate. there was always a sense that we should move clearly to the west. part of the alliance with the world. and the point is that that is why it has been mr. putin showing that every part of ukraine is on the -- , every part of ukraine is on the goal. the point of this is that biden's words, the central point is, the fact remains that mr. putin has made very clear that he despises the west, though he wants to fight for the west, but he wants to win the west and he wants the western institutions to be dissolved. the point is, --

is a problem for the western world. >> you are alluding to something here the people touch them before, which is a prudent doesn't really have many boundaries. so mark, one of the many things that you teach at syracuse, they history propaganda and political warfare, i say that because a russian official this weekend warned that russia could use nuclear weapons, even against a nation only using conventional weapons. what is russia strategy and saying that now? >> we are coming to that normally motivational career but also my youth, russians have always been very clear the nuclear, weapons -- it is a, where it was a worry during the cold with that they would use it first, it should be a worry now that they might use nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons. that said, i think when you see both the resistance of the ukrainians men in militaries to the success that they have had, both in defending and counterattacks as well, plus the solidarity of the western

alliance, i think this has made it very clear to putin that this is, i hesitate to say a red line, but that the russians should not cross. there is probably been significant signaling that sent to the russians privately, as well as publicly, that there will be severe consequences for the use of weapons like this. i am less concerned about that there was maybe a week or two ago, especially with a russian line that they are going to focus on the east, on the donbas. you talk about propaganda. this is president putin trying to create a positive narrative about what's's been clearly a military failure. the we did not intend to take over all. ukrainian today just to protect that he's going insecure gains in the donbas, after all. he is trying to create a positive narrative of when his club in the military defeat.

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ukraine, thousands more are heading into the war zone. despite opposition from american leaders, u.s. military veterans are volunteering on the front lines. nbc news correspondent cal perry has the story. >> as millions flee the war in ukraine -- there are americans coming in to fight. >> the stakes are very heavy. >> john served in the military for ten years. for his own security, he asked that we keep his identity as secret. >> so, why? why is it so important you came here? >> we have to defend democracy. this is a fledgling democracy, it's tragic. >> john says he had a lucrative financial job back in the united states. after watching coverage of the invasion two weeks, ago he quit. >> i kind of made my mind up there. a, if these people want help i can come over and lead my skills. >> he and some 20,000 others from around the world responded to president zelenskyy's call

for foreign volunteers to help fight the war. david primer from illinois also answered the call. >> these are my, wounded lay down. >> he was a combat veteran for five years. >> the fact this is going. on a terrible situation. where here. and as long as they're here, the citizens are going through this, all be proud to stand next to them. >> the u.s. government strongly discouraging civilians from going to ukraine to fight. >> we still do not believe that ukraine is a safe place for americans to go. we urge them not to go. >> john says he's formed a fighter unit with other foreigners, including british and american veterans. he says he's in touch with officials from the ukrainian government about where they are needed the most. he fully expects to see combat. >> you just have to get it in your mind that you may not come back, and be okay with that. if you're not okay with that, please don't come over. this is not a game. this is not a video game. >> it's a very different situation for you, if you're

captured by russian soldiers. right? >> that's case in area for us, if we get captured, we're going to end up in a russian prison probably for the rest of our lives. worst-case they'll probably execute us on site. >> cal, perry nbc news, lviv. >> some u.s. veterans going to ukraine are not going to fight on the front lines but going to help train ukrainians to the billions. zachary bellegarde is a retired marine with resource coordination experience. he and his friend traveled to ukraine to help train a local militia there. he joins me now this morning. zachary, we want to thank you for coming. and also want to thank you for your service prior to this, for the united states. i'll jump into this, but most people want to flee hostile environments, you are going straight to the danger. let us to what prompted you to do. this was a one specific moment that prompted you, when you said i need to go to ukraine? >> good morning, cory, thanks for having me. it wasn't going to ukraine to train, specifically.

we went to ukraine to help our friend uri, who wanted to go home. he's under lee naturalized american citizen, and we didn't want to let him go alone. when we got there we found a need and help where we could. which turned out to be helping to train ukrainian territorial defence forces. >> i want to read a bit from a piece in the washington post that you wrote. quote, this was a war unlike any i've ever fought in. i trained fighters all over the world but they were professionals to deploy to some other region of their countries. i had never trade anyone to act as the last line of defense for innovation on their doorstep. it was almost like backyard paintball, but with a horrific human toll. your words are riveting. tell us more about your experience, what did you learn about these people who are not professionals, trying to do everything they can to defend their homes? >> yeah. not professionals at all. but committed, determined and willingly being there,

learning. these are young kids, old man, somewhere older than the requirements to stay in the country. 60 years old, they could have fled if they wanted to. but they wanted to stay and protect their country. a lot of individuals move back from europe to fight in ukraine, to protect their homeland, their country and their friends and family. it was really inspiring. >> we hear about some of these families that are torn apart, sending their kids, away sending their wives away. saying i have to stay, here i have to fight. here in the u.s., you have family and, friends you have kids. what do they think about your decision? >> i didn't tell many people before i left. i didn't tell my kids, i didn't talk to them until i got back. they're young, they thought it was nice. when i told them they said, wow, how is ukraine? and i told them, and then they told me about their pokémon cards. >> just the beauty of being a

child. ed not having to experience wet many children, and what's thousands and millions of children are experiencing right now in ukraine. zachary, you also said you are planning to return. so when and what is your first priority when you get? there >> when we return, we're going to bring some -- the people have been sending. if you want to help, you can go to overwatch organization dot org and get contact on how to supply medical kits, turn a kids and uniforms and clothing. if you would like to volunteer in any way it is slavia dot when. what we're doing when we return again's brigade combat supplies, medicine, combat and training. as well as training somewhere defense forces. >> so, you don't necessarily have to go to ukraine as zachary has done, but you can help retired armed forces were zachary burgart. depreciate all you, do and all you're doing is. well thank you. >> thank you cory, appreciate. it >> up next, russians invasion cutting off necessary

treatment for children fighting cancer. how st. john's is getting involved, next. and as we get a break, ukrainian musicians play for quirky residents living in a bombed a subway station. described as a symbol that light will overcome darkness. ♪ ♪ ♪

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i will wildfire in boulder, colorado, causing an investigation for nearly 20,000 people overnight. the fire has grown to 23 acres. no injuries have been reported so far. it is not clear if any homes have been threatened. foo fighters, drummer taylor hawkins had ten different substances in his system when he died. that is according to columbia's attorney general. he was found dead in his hotel room on friday night, shortly before he was set to perform in -- the humanitarian toll of the war is worsening with a devastating impact on the most vulnerable victims. unicef says every minute, 50 ukrainian shoulder and become refugees. the war is also coming off a lifesaving treatment for kids who are fighting cancer. a lucky few latent here to the u.s. for desperately needed treatment. here's nbc's carey sanders. >> one mother clings to her 18 month old daughter melania. another, exhausted for more, shields for a year old son bogged in.

both children are refugees from the war in ukraine. but long before the first shots were fired, these kids were already in a battle for their lives, fighting advanced cancers. >> natalia tears as she says. >> this decision was truly heartbreaking because it's what my family. i had to leave my two daughters at home. but my main goal was my son. >> natalia rocks along our strangers. now, the two moms bonded to gather by their ukrainian heritage into their children's extreme health struggles. >> your daughter is too young to understand what is going on. but did you sense that she was scared? >> yes you are right. she is little, but it does affect her greatly because if he she feels our worries and our emotions as parents. >> that anxiety created by constant bombs and bullets takes a toll on children

weakened by cancer, say doctors. who are now treating the children and saying to do it hospital in memphis. >> we have seen the horrors of war. but at the same time, we have seen what we are capable of doing. and that is what i think is -- >> hallelujah for you and everybody. it took a lot of courage, beginning with the parents. >> yes. yes. yes. >> natalia roxana say they are numb but also amazed it so thankful to learn that st. jude's free. this hospital, started by marla thomas's father danny, operates on the generosity of donation. >> it is so gratifying, and it is so emotional to meet those mothers and know that they have a place for them to come to. which is what this has always been. saint-jean has always been a beacon of hope for parents. >> hope it has been in short supply for refugees until now. >> that was carey sanders reporting. today, thousands of americans

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the terrifying moments that sky news correspondent alex -- came under fire having dive to the ground for coverage [interpreter] the journalists have been covering the war from the front lines and were trying to cross a bridge being used by ukrainian civilians who were desperately trying to flee the northern city of chernihiv. that horrifying moment comes two weeks after a journalist was madrid side of kyiv. he is currently in a u.s. army hospital recovering from multiple surgeries. two of his colleagues did not survive the attack. paul was rescued with the help of an organization called save our allies. the group's been on the ground in ukraine since early february, providing humanitarian aid in carrying out rescue and extraction missions. for all of this -- we are joined by sarah rivero. sarah, good morning to you. your organization carries out intricate rescue operations in war zones and hostile environments. can you tell us more about the logistics of that? what goes into these, missions the orchestrating, especially in ukraine where these missions

look like? take us through how these missions go down. >> thank you for having. us our organization has an team of special intelligence veterans that are skilled in precision rescues from hospital environments. when we saw the devastation in afghanistan, and now ukraine, they came together to do whatever possible to rescue vulnerable populations. so imagine that the phone rings and people have exhausted traditional avenues for evacuations. they cannot evacuate. normally in some cases some other tvs are killed. that phone rings, and our team springs into action based on their decades of collective experience. in the most dangerous hostile environments around the globe. and we have the state over and over again here, our team has carried out routine evacuations of disabled people. but also, really compromised about evacuations that are currently from behind enemy lines. >> and sarah, save our allies was formed as the war in

afghanistan team to an end in the taliban began to take over the country. they're fast for several months, you are on the ground in ukraine. i'm sure it is been a world in here for you guys. how do you work or people to do this dangerous kind of work? what kind of back on to they have to have? >> the amazing thing with americans, and people around the globe, is that they want to do their part to defeat evil and terrorism, and we saw that when afghanistan fell in the veteran community rallied to support their -- i am a wife and caretaker of a wounded veteran. the train is deeply personal to me, why isn't his. still -- blessed to work with. me this is a community where our motto is -- these are people who are living every day, with very specific background. special intelligence operations. they are going to be operating with the precision and scale the most commonly dream about. >> that is very true, it does take a very special type of person to do this.

for many, they say it is a. calling it is so rare that we see that kind of bravery as people are running away from the danger. as they are running away, you are running towards it. tell us about what you are seeing on the ground in ukraine, specifically. what resources do you feel almost re-needed right now, as well? >> we are seeing a really strong multinational effort. you heard the president address that as americans around the globe, we are going to stand with our allies. we are very hopeful that the world will follow suit. we are seeing it here on the grand. the generosity of the polish people. the will of the ukrainian people. the spirit of americans who are here during the right thing, volunteering and bring humanitarian aid medical support. our team is regular rescuing groups. we have pediatric oncology patients. disabled elderly people. people that cannot self evacuate. and so we are seeing the generosity in support around the globe to stand with ukraine. >> if you can't be a part of

the team, you can still help in every possible way. there are so many ways to donate, including save our allies. sara verarda is the cofounder of the rallies. thank you for being with us this morning, sarah. and your team please stay safe and ukraine. we have a live report from capitol hill where the january six committee is weighing how to respond to text messages between supreme court justice clarence thomas's wife and trump's inner circle. we will also get democratic congressman jim -- take next. take next. ed up with big bills and 5g maps that are mostly gaps— they're switching to t-mobile for business and getting more 5g bars in more places. save over $1,000 when you switch to our ultimate business plan... ...for the lowest price ever. plus, choose from the latest 5g smartphones— like a free samsung galaxy s22. so switch to the network that helps your business do more for less—join the big switch to t-mobile for business today. we hit the bike trails every weekend

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explosive texts between the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas and donald trump's inner circle. nbc has confirmed the january six committee is in possession of a number of messages between mark meadows and ginni thomas, talking about trying to overturn the 2020 election. a separate emails also surfaced, where thomas appears to price republicans to protest the election. the january six committee is

now reportedly debating whether to subpoena thomas. nbc's aly raf is on the capitol hill for us this morning. ali, bring us up to speed on all this happened here in the potential fallout. >> yeah, cory, there's a lot to unpack here. here's what we know so far. over the span of two months, after the 2020 election, we know that justice clarence thomas's wife ginni thomas, who is a fixture in conservative activism, texted then white house chief of staff mark meadows urging him to continue to fight the results of the 2020 election. pushing conspiracy theories that have been debunked about the 2020 election. she sent him a total of 29 text messages, here are a few of those. she said do not concede. it takes time for the army who is gathering for his back. speaking of then president trump. another says help this great presidents'day and firm, mark, you are the leader with him who is standing for america's constitutional governance at the precipice. the majority knows biden in the left is attempting the greatest heist of our here history.

sources familiar at this tech say they're part of a trove of a document of records that meadows voluntarily gave the january six committee, back when he was voluntarily working with them. we know that, since, he has been one of a few in trump's inner circle who has been willing to face possible criminal charges for refusing to comply with the committee. but, as far as fallout from this, cory, these text don't specifically mentioned the supreme court or justice thomas, specifically. but some are arguing that this could potentially be a conflict of interest. we know that he was the lone dissenting opinion in a supreme court ruling that allowed the national archives access to these presidential records, that they then gave to the january six committee. he very well could face potential future january six related cases. his wife has said, publicly, that she and her husband keep their personal life in their work life very separate, but that's not stopping some democrats here on capitol hill

trump calling for him to resign or recuse himself. republicans, meanwhile, are defending the court's longest serving justice, arguably the most conservative justice on the court. take a listen to what minority leader kevin mccarthy had to say about this on friday. >> i think justice thomas could make his decisions like he's made them every other time. it's his decision, based upon law. if you spend any time studying the supreme court justice, he's one who studies correctly. >> the committee could ask ginni thomas to come in and testify, they could subpoena her for her records. they're going to just have to wait and see. committee members do return here to capitol hill tomorrow, so we will definitely be asking them about all of this. >> yeah, many questions to be had, ali raf. a thank you. it should be noted, at trump's rally last night, he once again called putin a genius. i've got a guest in studio, for the first time since the pandemic began. joining me now is dan kildee of

michigan, thank you congressman for being. and i would love to get your reaction here, in light of these recent revelations regarding ginni thomas. do you think she should be subpoenaed? do you think justice thomas should recuse himself, in cases regarding the insurrection? >> she certainly should be brought forward, to testify. and so should mark meadows. these subpoenas that, so far, the trump circle has simply refused, this isn't like an invitation to a child's birthday by the. where they can say no, tell me has a tummy ache, he can't come today. this is an import moment for our country, the fact that they treat it in such cavalier passion is chilling. these texts ought to get the attention of everyone in this country. the wife of a sitting supreme court justice. it's not like they have different opinions on the mets or the yankees, this is a question of the integrity of our democracy. the idea that a person so close

to adjust is, so close to the former president, would still, even at the moment that she was sending these text, embrace these debunked, lunatic theories in order to stay in power. given what we're seeing in the world right now. the struggle for power, at all costs, we have to take a step back and pick to ourselves, is this the sort of commentary or dialogue that we want to see in the 21st century democracy here in the united states of america? absolutely not. >> especially surrounding our supreme court. which has been one of the last entities that should have been left without question, left unbiased. congressman, i also want to get your thoughts on biden's trip to warsaw here, recently. and his comments. that putin cannot remain in power. your thoughts on this. do you think this is going to cause backlash? do you think congress would support a regime change? u.s. congress, would support a

regime change for russia? >> would i take from the presidents comments, and i saw the clarification later on, is that putin cannot be allowed to assert the sort of power over the ukrainian people. i take him at his word, them at their word. that that was his intended commentary. but it does speak to how disturbed mr. putin's. and that he doesn't really represent the russian people, when he's taking these actions. it is not in their interest. the hope is that, some time, either mr. putin comes to his senses or the russian people come to their senses, and they do something to reel him in. >> let's talk about the midterms now. which is going to be incredibly important. donald trump wants to use those midterms to solidify his grip on the -- take back some power if possible. of course, he was in georgia last, night as we mentioned. he's also rallying for senator david perdue, who is trying to unseat governor kemp. what is your take on where we are at right now, temperature

wise? and what do you see happening with the future of the democratic party, as donald trump tries to retain his grip on the gop? >> well, unfortunately, former president trump continues to focus on the 2016 election and his lawsuit, his 2020 election in these rallies. these are crazy theories he's advancing. the people i represent, even the folks who lean towards mr. trump, maybe even believe some of these conspiracy theories, front of mind for them are the issues that they face at their kitchen table. and so, our campaign, our message, the work that i'm doing in our 2022 campaign, it's all about the future. not about the history that is really a settled question, the 2020 election. trump is running the 2022 election as if it's 2020 all over again, and he can erase the fact that he is a loser. he lost. he doesn't want to accept that,

and so he's continuing to try to change history. >> of course, there's speculation on whether or not the former president would then try to run again, depending on how things shake out with the midterms. if he feels emboldened to do so. >> i think that's right. it's going to be important that people view these midterms as, in part, a question of the future. but also, in part, are we going to continue to embrace this bizarre past, or are we going to put this behind us and move on. i hope it's the latter. >> do you have any final thoughts for us, this morning? as you're in with us. >> first of all, it's good to be back in studio. we are coming out of this, through this pandemic, and we've got to celebrate that. we've got to be cautious, but we have to celebrate that. it's sad to see that there are some in this country that can't leave the past behind. >> let's look towards the future. congressman kildee, we appreciate your time. thanks for being, here in person. >> you bet. >> all right, we've got a very special program with ali velshi, up next.

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