like pope john paul the second and the former polish president and noble peace prize winner -- . the contrast between the brutal actions of russian president vladimir putin. most of, all it was a speech that champion democracy and condemned putin's iron fisted dictatorship. >> there is simply no justification or provocation for russia's choice of war. building an empire will never erase the people's love for liberty, brutality will never break down the will to be free. ukraine will never be evicted for russia. >> but it was an ad libbed line at the very end of his speech that caught my attention. >> we will have a different future, a brighter future rooted in democracy and principle. hope and light. of decency and dignity, freeman possibilities. for god sake, this man cannot

remain in power. >> almost immediately after the president left the stage, white house officials walked back his statement to clarify that the president wasn't calling for regime change, rather it was to emphasize the point that, quote, putin can't be allowed to exercise power over his neighbors. secretary of state blinken once again reiterated that message earlier, during a news conference in jerusalem, where he is and attending and arab summit. the kremlin was quick to point out that president biden's comments, remarks history, day quote, are not for biden to decide. president biden's disdain for vladimir putin's cruelty is no secret, he's made his opinion of the russian president very clear throughout this trip. earlier in the day, while touring the pg-y national stadium here in warsaw, to meet with refugees in their helpers, biden called putin, quote, a butcher. earlier he also called putin a war criminal. president biden delivered his

speech just hours after russia launched a series of high precision crews muscles on lviv, a city in ukraine roughly four miles from his border in poland. the missiles hit a factory and an oil facility connected to the ukrainian military, killing at least five people. it caused a larger fire that caused big black clouds of smoke to be in the skies over ukraine. president vladimir zelenskyy renewed his calls for help in defending ukraine's airspace, including a no-fly zone. while ukraine's define military and citizens continue to succeed in holding off russian forces, in some parts of the country, the ukrainian people continue to be terrorizing driven out of their homes. as of today, the 3.8 million people have left the country and more than 1000 civilians have been killed. that's according to the un human rights office. nbc's jacob soboroff joins me now from lviv, ukraine. jacob, you are on the air with us 24 hours ago when the first of two strikes lviv, what is the situation there? i notice, that behind, you

people are out there enjoying a sunny sunday afternoon. >> ali, you mentioned that the ukrainian people have been terrorized and driven from their homes all throughout this nation. millions of people have become internally displaced, millions of people have become refugees, crossing the border into those, passed the eastern border of those nato countries. here in lviv, despite these two attacks that shattered what was a sense of safety and security in the second largest city in the country here, in the western part of this nation. people are still here, people are remaining defiant. on the left-hand side of your screen, you're looking at pictures when i saw firsthand with my own eyes last night, the russian attack on that fuel depot. designed to do exactly as you said, terrorize the people of this nation. and also cripple the infrastructure of the military. it was a facility, according to a local official, military regional official, used by the ukrainian military for exactly

when it looked like. fuel, to the south of where i am right now. that second strike was used as a repair facility, a maintenance facility for other types of ukrainian military infrastructure. here in lviv, people remain defiant, people remain out on the streets. and i think what people are asking today is, what's next? there's still critical infrastructure, you're looking again at the left-hand side of your screen, a picture from yesterday of that tv tower. the tv tower that remains behind me right now. there are other pieces of critical infrastructure. i think people here are worried about, potentially, the russians going after. you don't see people leaving in droves, because you don't see the type of attack, at least at this point, on civilians that you've seen in places like mariupol. where the humanitarian missions that are beside of this part of the country are having trouble getting to, in order to deliver much-needed supplies. a lot of questions here on the ground in lviv, people are trying to maintain some sense of normalcy in their day-to-day lives. >> all right, jacob.

thank, you will continue to stay close to you. jacob soboroff is live in lviv. joining me now is a retired u.s. army major, john spencer. he's also a professor of urban warfare studies and author of the upcoming book connected soldiers. major, thank you for being with us. tell me what you make of what you saw yesterday. it was kind of remarkable, it wasn't just that there were missile strikes on lviv, which is a place that has thought of as a bit of a safe haven right now in western ukraine. but it was interesting timing, it was just as most of the world's cameras were here in warsaw, watching president biden, meeting with leaders, going to see refugees and their helpers and then making a major speech that was outlining his view of how this war should be prosecuted. >> yeah, that's right, ali. it was a sign to ukrainians and to the world that russia is going to continually indiscriminately attack

civilian areas. those two targets have very little military value to them. i think they're scared, they're scared of urban warfare and they're scared that they're losing on basically every front. >> let me ask you about urban warfare and the rules of war. there are obviously things that are war crimes, and there are obviously things that our military objectives. in a perfect world, those would be binary, and everybody holding a counter firing a missile or flying a jet would know what those are. now we're into this middle space. it's a fuel depot, it's a manufacturing plant. we don't know if they were manufacturing. one of the roles on things like that? on what you can and can't take out, before it starts looking like war crimes? >> one, we already know he's committed war crimes a merry opal and plenty of other locations. the line of distinction on what's classified as a military target and what doesn't is

pretty clear. you're right, warfare in urban areas and densely populated urban areas where the targets, even if they're being used for military purposes and are full of civilians, then you can't fire at them. the lines are pretty clear. i think russia knows those lines, and that's why he's are always operating in the gray on, oh, that was being used as military purposes. i theater full of women and children? no, that's a. war crime. these targets, again, they had no military value of significance. i think they were really just done to show that he could safely hit anything he wants, from the safety of russia. because he is scared to actually fight in those areas. the supplies coming out of the west of ukraine are critically important to ukrainian civilians that continue to defeat russia. >> i want to ask you about some reporting from the bbc, and which it says ukraine's defense ministry says that another russian general was killed in the strike near the southern city of kherson.

russian official says he was the seventh official to die in ukraine. again, we don't have that information, the russians don't give us those confirmations about any of their senior leadership who may have been killed in the fighting. if true, though, that is very unusual for modern warfare. that doesn't tend to happen. >> no, absolutely not. you don't have generals, any good military, doesn't have generals that fire for it to the actual front line. it just doesn't make sense. so, clearly, they don't trust their lower leaders. they don't have what we called a non commissioned officer, the backbone of our army. it's young leaders who can take initiative and make things happen. they're pushing generals that far forward and getting them killed, that's a huge sign that the russian military is falling apart in front of our eyes. even if all those generals are true, clearly some generals have been killed. that's a huge sign that they are desperate at this point. >> you and i have been talking about this war since it began.

and there were all sorts of estimates about 48 hours or 72 hours or 96 hours before russia has largely control over things. it was the only piece of intelligence that didn't turn out to be largely good. you had a tweet, citing a reason for, that quoting the polling in. where you say the moral is to the physical as three is to one. when you look at the difference between these armies, the russian and ukrainian armies, there's obviously no russian civilians who are voluntary to fight in this battle, in the major battles in ukraine. it is kind of remarkable that this moral imperative that has motivated ukrainians is holding the russians back. >> yeah, it's imperative but it's no surprise to anybody that's been in the military for a little time. in my experience, into combat tours in iraq, that is your power. it isn't your military weapons or the size of your military, a demoralize military will just be destroyed on the battlefield. ukrainians are showing that they have the will to fight.

in history, a motivated soldier, in a motivated group of soldiers, can achieve great feats. that's what we're seeing. it's no surprise to me now, when you have russians being hunted down now by motivated ukrainian fighters. it is amazing, but it's what we've known for centuries. the moral, the morale of your soldiers, the will to fight, it's everything. >> that is something to watch. major, good to see you. thank you for joining. us retired military major john spencer is the chair of urban studies and the author of connected soldiers. my next guest is william prouder, he's an american born british businessmen and political activist who is responsible for the first serious sanctions to hit russian oligarchy's and those close to vladimir putin. the sanctions regime, the man did ski act, named after browder's former attorney, now takes the form of law in several countries.

magnitsky himself blew the whistle on massive fraud committed by the russian government and its officials, and was subsequently killed in a russian prison. bill browder is the head of -- he's ahead of the global minutes key justice campaign, which continues calls for targeted sanctions and visa bans against human rights abusers around the world. he's also the author of the upcoming book freezing order, a true story of money laundering, murder and surviving vladimir putin's wrath. bill, thank you for being with us. i knew as soon as i heard those comments, that speech by joe biden yesterday, i wanted to talk to you about it. because joe biden, deliberately or inadvertently, scripted or ad libbed, said something that a lot of people, including, you have been saying for a long time. that's latter made putin's gotta go. >> it's entirely clear that vladimir putin is a serial killer, a war criminal --

[inaudible] united states and europe and a precarious and threatening position. we can't allow him to carry on. i don't think this was an accident, i don't think biden just brought it up on the stage and said it. i watched the video a number of times, it doesn't feel like an accident to me. it looks like an interesting way of playing psychological warfare on vladimir putin. the president of the united states says that putin doesn't deserve to be president, and just so that the russians can't latch on to that and say that america is at war, they have the secretary of state walking it back. i think this was very deliberate, i think it served this purpose and i think it put putin on notice. basically saying, we're not just going to sanction you, we're going to try to get you out of this job. >> yeah, that's the view i took, bill. you know about the story better than i do. my senses, wow, a no-fly zone would have been good but going

for putin, suggesting that the leader of the free world might actually rally his troops or the leaders of the free world around that stuff. including little things, like taking them out of g20, which biden is trying to do. it is an entirely opposite world of the one that existed with donald trump and vladimir putin. vladimir putin is getting the snow from joe biden, and the snub might hit him harder than people think. >> there is no question. he is completely, now, isolated from all these world leaders and heads of state and other people who he so coveted and wanted to be part of. this is such an important part of the whole story, which is vladimir putin thought, before this invasion, that he could divide us. he thought that we were also narrow minded, that we all cared so much about our own business interests, that when he did something terrible like killing a bunch of ukrainians that we would all just try to find a way not to do anything.

that has not happened. we've completely surrounded him, we've locked arms. even the biggest putin apologists have joined us in this exercise. he is economically surrounded, ukrainians are getting weapons. and then the president of the united states, the leader of the free, world has gone on the record and saying that this man shouldn't be president. that is a very powerful message to vladimir putin. >> let's talk about sanctions. you really worked hard to design the magnitsky act that around the world. for it to be something that targeted putin and oligarchs around him, without hurting average russians who have nothing to do with this thing. obviously, we have ramped up sanctions now, with the american companies that have pulled, out with the various things that are going on that do affect average russians. who do not get to just go to the ballot like everybody else and vote putin out, if they get dissatisfied. so, what position does this put russian people in? the kremlin had said, it's not up to biden to decide who runs russia, it's up to the russian people.

you know that's bs, it's not up to the russian people. >> there's no democracy in russia. a time an opposition candidate appears, likes alexei navalny, they try to kill him. boris nemtsov they did kill, garry kasparov they exiled. there is no democracy in russia. it would've been nice if we had been a lot tougher before this invasion, which targeted sanctions. so we wouldn't have to affect the russian population more broadly. they are all, effectively, hostages to vladimir putin as well. some of them willing, some of them unwilling. but we're not at a place where we have that luxury anymore. he is killing thousands and thousands of people every day, every week, every month. we cannot, no longer, tiptoe around this. we have to throw everything we possibly can at russia, surround lad near putin completely, economically. that means the money of the

central bank, reserves the money of the oligarchy, and stopping anyone from doing business with russia. it's unfortunate that the russian people have to suffer, but ukrainian people are dying right now. we have to do everything possible we can to put pressure on putin. >> bill, thanks as always for joining us. bill browder, the head of the global magnitsky justice campaign. the u.s. and the u.s. charged a deal to undercut a major part of russia's billion dollar energy output, liquefy natural gas. never heard of the section of the energy sector? you're not alone. i'll explain it all. and then my interview with marie and prom of itch on the massive shift in the world's perception on ukraine and its leadership. and, classes in session in poland, with some ukrainian students. school is much more than a classroom and some textbooks, it's the quintessential normal for teenagers. a normal is what ukrainians really need right now. this is a special edition of velshi, live from warsaw, poland. m warsaw poland wash... with a plant-based adaptogen,

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or refugees from ukraine continue to pour in. at the last moment, this country has stepped up and welcome displaced ukrainians with open arms. not only have they given them safe havens, but they've offered the refugees housing, money, and medical care. for the children coming here from ukraine, poland is offering schooling. from this comes a sense of normalcy. >> classes in session. >> reporter: these are ukrainian students learning polish, a lesson you can see belies just how quickly these highschoolers have had to grow up since fleeing their home country weeks ago. >> it means so much

>> reporter: by contrast, the school is welcome. relief >> -- >> from gym class to the lunch room. new friendships are forming. >> sometimes the presence is the most we can give. and the most important thing that they get from us. because they need it. they left their families. in ukraine. >> -- >> every bit of help is needed as much. >> i think it's friends.

>> they want to talk. they want to integrate with us. and feel like a normal teenagers. >> reporter: and the city wants them to feel welcome to two. on every warsaw lamppost in ukrainian flags welcome them here. >> reporter: warsaw is a city about 1000 6 million people. estimates say the over 100,000 refugees or come to the city. that is a 17% increase in the population. about half of those refugees are children. so despite all the social services that are being offered to these refugees, local officials say it is not enough. >> you told me that the polish students are doing a great job, the parents of the students are doing a great job. and the people in the community or helping you a lot. still, you say you need more. >> [speaking foreign language] we have to provide apartments for these kids. because some of them are speaking in a room with ten or 20 people on the mattress. we need more finance to make them breakfast, and to give

them dinners. if the number of kids in poland grows, and schools grow by one fold, it is a huge burden. poland does not such a wealthy country. to take care of it by ourselves. >> andrea is our thanks to see is the schools headmaster. he tells me he thinks the other eu quest trees need to step up to help poland financially. and in poland, there is a lot to finance. here, here's lines are seen each day as refugees lined up for a government idina moore. like the social security number in the united states, it guarantees on the right to, work for health, care and education. and for the students receiving that education, while starting in polish school may feel like starting over, they do not intend to let the challenge hold them back. >> if you want to learn -- if you don't want to learn --

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nato the g7, and the european council. some of the most important gatherings of world, leaders literally since world war ii. on friday, he also visited american troops in eastern poland, less than 100 miles from the ukrainian border. yesterday he met with refugees in warsaw, before delivering a major address later in the afternoon. beyond that, this trip has served as a display of the global communities united response against russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine. two people know the politics of russia and central europe, as well as maria ivanovich does. she served as an american diplomat for 33 years, including as the ambassador to ukraine from 2016 to 2019, under was president obama and trump. she is also the author of the new book, lessons from the edge, a memoir. in her, book she describes witnessing a shift introductory in ukraine during her tours as ambassador. from a country that was beseeched by corruption, to a better version of itself. earlier this, weekend she had a chance to speak with.

her and i asked about the juxtaposition, the images she is seeing, out of ukraine being ripped apart day by day under attack from russia. versus the reform minded politicians who offered in a new era of leadership in ukraine, and you are now standing united in defense of their country. >> it is absolutely devastating. but all of those strong civil society leaders, the people, politicians, reform minded politicians and others, they are still in ukraine or around ukraine. they are still fighting for a free ukraine. and i believe that they will prevail. you can see the spirit, whether in president zelenskyy or in a grandmother who is making a molotov cocktail. you can see that spirit of freedom and also defiance against the russians. >> talk to me about what to the humanitarian catastrophe, what influence that is going to have. how much of an impact is that

versus the actual rule of ukraine not being part of nato and the west not wanting to trip over a wire and end up in a war? >> i think the humanitarian catastrophe that we are witnessing is hugely important. that the last count was something like 10 million people displaced from their homes in about 3.5 that have crossed the border. into poland and other countries. we are a nation of values. european countries are nation of values, as well as of interests. and i think it is almost impossible to watch that without wanting to help. and i think that is what you are seeing right now. and i think we are going to need to continue to help for some time to come. although i would just also adds that pretty much every ukrainian i know, even if they have been displaced, they are talking about coming to the united states with some other country to build a new life. they are talking about wanting to stay close so that they can go back and rebuild.

and i think we need to help them with everything we have got, so that ukrainians can go back and rebuild. >> are you worried, about in some parts of ukraine, not having something to rebuild? there are people inside the country who have, said this feels more like an invasion. this feels like vengeance. this feels like punishment more than a political control issue. >> yes. of course, we have seen that before at the hands of vladimir putin. i think that it grows on, me i think in syria. and, now sadly, in parts of ukraine, that is going to join that let me. and, yes president zelenskyy, many of my friends call it a war of extermination. and i think that is very much what it is. when you target civilians. whether they're eight years old or 80. they are all suffering, and sadly some of them are also dying.

>> ambassador, we appreciate your time. thank you for being with. us marie ivanovich is the former head ambassador to ukraine. >> right after the, break our economic sanctions packing enough of a punch? this new deal between the icc european union is a pretty heavy hitter. we will tell you everything you need to know with a new liquefied gas plan, next. it not only cleans, it hydrates my skin. as a dermatologist, i want what's best for our skin. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at home. (vo) right now, the big switch is happening across the country. small businesses are fed up with big bills and 5g maps that are mostly gaps— they're switching to t-mobile for business and getting more 5g bars in more places. save over $1,000 when you switch to our ultimate business plan... ...for the lowest price ever. plus, choose from the latest 5g smartphones— like a free samsung galaxy s22. so switch to the network that helps your business do more for less—join the big switch to t-mobile for business today.

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the u.s. in the european union have come up with a plan to sever another one of russia's major economic arteries. liquefied natural gas. >> we are coming together to produce europe's dependence on russian energy. putin has issued russia's energy source, to corset manipulate its neighbors. and so he is use this. he is using profits to drive his war machine. >> we've talked about the increasing gas prices back home, but this is very different. over the past few decades, a multi billion dollar industry is to build around the world to facilitate breezing natural gas to negative 250 degrees fahrenheit, until it becomes a liquid, they look within can then be loaded onto refrigerated trips. and that, point easily sent all over the globe. this is crucial. because the places where natural glass is found are generally geographically dispersed. the homes, the power, plants the factories in which it is

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the local production between the united states, qatar, and australia, is expected to total more than 403 million tons in 2022. the eu is aiming to import 37 million tons of fuel until at least 2030. makers across europe are racing to sign additional contracts with gas producers. they exist in africa and the middle east, even america, before next winter. europe has more than 400 elegy import terminals, including a massive one in poland, which you are seeing photographs of right now. germany is europe's biggest energy consumer, and it is a sticking point because there are absolutely zero terminals locates there. calling this a major undertaking is an understatement, but it is a necessary blow to russia right now. and a key move in weaning europe off of russian oil for the future. right after the, break i'll be joining us with a guest who can talk about the moves this will

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assistant professor international history at the fletcher school in tough university. he's a co-director of the schools russian eurasia program, and the author putin onyx, power and money in research and russia. chris, good to see you, i don't know if you can help the explanation that i am providing. in terms of liquefy natural gas. but fundamentally, one of the things i think i take from you is that there is a short term emergency part of this that is, important but not as impactful. there is a longer term part that could be very impactful. and the fluttery putin is worried about either of these, the longer term aspect of the gas proposal. >> that is. write a big chunk of the gas that russia produces is currently shipped via pipelines that only go --

europe finds a way to rush off natural gas which is -- earlier next week. where she will have no place to defend itself. a meaningful portion of imports and exports will just be stranded along the ground because there is no infrastructure that russia has to send them. >> there are countries that produce fossil fields that are pariah countries, and they still find some way to get it to places. so is it feasible that russia could just take its own natural gas, and make it liquefied, and send it to countries like china that really need it? >> it might be possible in the longer run, the gas is a lot harder to ship than oil. oil is really put on a ship, you can also put it on trucks and sending almost anywhere you are in the world. there is only a small number of local vacation facilities that can deal with cooling gas required, and then sending it around the world. it would be a major undertaking for russian to build additional

facilities. we've already seen new story in russians over the past couple of weeks about delays in projects that are underway because of russian sanctions. so it is far from clear that russia could build the infrastructure needed to send out to the gas to other customers. >> how big a deal is this idea that the u.s. has recognized, you've written about this before. it is kind of hard. it sounds morally correct for all of your to be on the right side of this thing, except that they literally get a large proportion of their, energy whether coal oil or natural gas, from russia. it's active to find an alternative to. that there is definitely a movement around here that says, hey, let's have an austerity program. let's suffer a little bit for the ukrainian people. but it is so much energy that it takes more than that. >> it certainly is expensive to reduce your lines on russian gas in particular, also oil into. it is a price you are going to have to pay. the question, is how quickly

you move in that direction? we have seen statement after statement from -- and other european politicians, moving forward, the data which they plan to be free from russian energy sources. i think that given the war in ukraine, given the importance of energy exports to russia's economy, they ought to speed up this process even faster. it will evolve in economic costs for europe, but the reality is that europe is, for far too long, left itself vulnerable with russian experts. this is a choice that they made over the last couple of decades, despite warnings both from european commentators and the united states. i think we should be encouraging them to speed this up even further, despite the cost they will have their economies. >> and just really want a masters class in this, there are two interesting points here. germany is the biggest consumer of the, thing and does not have any facilities to take in the natural gas that america is proposing sending from australia. , gather u.s., other places. poland, on the other side, did

actually work ahead on this. pullen is one of the best equipped countries to receive liquefied natural gas. >> that is right. the, polls also with a win eastern europe, having very strategic over the last decade. they've invested in the equipment that they need to acquire liquefied natural gas. they did this precisely because they did not want to be reliant on russia as a primary supplier. germany took the opposite view. if they wagered the inter alliance with russia was a good thing, that it would help or for much of the economy, and in the process make russia more amenable to germany's foreign policy aims. and that proved to be a disaster. now germany is dealing with the consequences. and the consequences are substantial, because it germany finds itself in a position where it had to cut off russian energy because of the price. but the reality is, this is a situation that in germany itself set up for. because of the decisions that they have, made and because unlike their neighbors and pulling out of the way and

elsewhere, they could not take their problem seriously in the past decades, when they should have. if you look at germany's assertion since 2014, when russia annexed crimea and started this war on ukraine, germany's become more reliant on russian gas. you can see the extent to which >> chris, thanks as always for your amazing analysis. chris miller, at tufts university, lecture school, the author of the book "putinomics." many children forced to leave best friends, miss spring parties and school plays and say good-bye to beloved family members. incomprehensible. i'll speak to a teenage refugee who arrived in warsaw. she's joining in efforts to help other refugees where she can, going to train and bus stations with volunteers. this is a special edition of "velshi" live from poland. l edif "velshi" live from poland. i could've put off telling my doctor my leg was red and swollen just doing the crossword... but i didn't wait.

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in the commercial break, i've been getting a ukrainian language lesson from my new friend, nastia. she is from a small village in the donbas region named pershotrovansk, near dnipro. she is helping hundreds of other refugees find safety and food.

you're a volunteer even though you're a refugee? >> yeah, yeah, but i'm only 15, and i try to help people because there are people like me, because i was -- before this war i was with family, i got parties, we are teenagers, we do something crazy. now in my town, shooting and i lose everything and i come here. so i'm trying to help people because they too lost everything because our live to near donetsk and mariupol and i'm surrounded in the middle. >> when did you leave? when did you come? >> like, town 20,000 people. >> not like warsaw? >> no, not like warsaw. so tiny. >> and when did you decide to come? >> one week ago. >> one week ago. you've been here about a week.

and tell me about where you're staying? >> i'm staying with refugees. there is 100 refugees from ukraine. many families. one family from mariupol, one family from kyiv and now i got friend and they're the reason -- they're, like, we all live together and she from kharkiv, my best friend. >> so these people from mariupol and from kharkiv and from your town, are you getting messages from back there about what is happening? >> yeah. because there people who here, they lose everything. and everybody, i ask what are you doing here? i say i come here because my home destroyed russian soldiers. it is very sad. it is important for me because i'm here and i lose everything and i am so grateful to support ukraine. it is so, like, i'm here

represent ukraine teenagers from different parts of ukraine. and every teenager, every person in ukraine cried because they lose everything. only one night. we not deserve it. >> you do not deserve it. your father is not with you. >> yeah. he's in kyiv. in front line. he's in army. >> does that worry you? >> yeah. he call, but in kyiv, very bad connection. so i very miss him and my friends who stay in ukraine. >> i saw a video of you, friday night, it was the shabbat, and there was some people you were celebrating with. did it feel normal just for a couple of hours? >> yeah. i'm so grateful shabbat because they support us, support my country and there was refugees from ukraine and refugees, i

feel myself, like, normal, relaxing because this is refugees who like me. they're teenagers like me. >> you are looking to go to the united states. tell me why. >> because i want to study there. i want to move back to ukraine, because ukraine, this is my native country. and when i start in usa and back in ukraine i want to build my future in ukraine with my friends, with my family, and i'm very grateful. now my school doesn't work. and different university in ukraine doesn't work because it is scared work and i not study here and i'm not studying in ukraine. so, yeah. >> you have a friend in seattle? >> yeah. >> is that where you want to go? >> yeah, maybe. in seattle. or new york. because my friends want to study in new york. >> very good. thank you for coming here. >> thank you. thank you. >> and talking to us and we will pray for your father and i'm sure he's going to be fine.

>> thank you. thank you u.s. for supporting us. it is important not for me, it is important for my family, my friends. we're very grateful many volunteers who support ukraine because if not these people, streets, train station, so thank you. >> you're going to the train stations. you've been going there and helping people, giving them food. i guess that must make you feel a little better? >> yeah, it makes me feel better because i know i'm not alone. and who lost everything. >> you're not alone. >> thank you. >> you're not alone for sure. >> can i hug you? thank you. >> we'll get through this. >> yeah. >> we'll see you at school in the united states and then we'll see you back in ukraine when you're working. >> thank you so much. >> nastya thank you. a teenage ukrainian refugee who is here with me in poland. that does it for me. thank you for watching. tomorrow, i'll join you live from lviv, ukraine. join me this coming week as i host "the rachel maddow show"

9:00 p.m. eastern and weekend mornings 8:00 a.m. eastern. stay where you are. "the sunday show with jonathan capehart" starts right now. but i'm going to grab a little food with nastya. . good morning. i'm jonathan capehart. this is the "the sunday show." early this morning, president biden touched down at the white house after three days of diplomacy in europe. focusing on russia's war on ukraine. the president capped his trip with a speech in poland, emphasizing the unity of nato and saying this about russian president vladimir putin. >> we will have a different future, a brighter future, rooted in democracy and principle, hope and light, of decency an dignity, freedom of possibilities. for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power. >> just a few hours ago,