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that took place today. also at this hour, heavy fighting in cherniv, kharkiv and mariupol. they're trying to encircle ukrainian troops closing in from kharkiv in the north and mariupol in the south. russia has claimed responsibility for the missile strikes in lviv across the border from warsaw. new reaction to president biden for the last nine words of his speech saying putin cannot remain in power and it's more backlash. >> i think all of us believe the world to be a better place without vladimir putin but, second, that's not the official u.s. policy. by saying that, that regime change is our strategy effectively, it plays into the hands of the russian propagandists and plays into the hands of vladimir putin. it was a mistake. the president recognized that. >> a new nbc poll shows 83% of the americans concerned about an increase in gas and other

prices. 82% concerned about nuclear weapons. 74% concerned that the u.s. will send american combat troops into fight. nbc's cal perry is joining us from lviv. and mike memoli at the white house. mike, i'm going to start with you. now that the president is back in the u.s., how are lawmakers reacting to his speech? >> reporter: that's right, alex. major reaction to what was billed as a major speech by the white house. the president capping off that trip to europe with a speech that really drew on all the pillars of joe biden's life in foreign policy and government. he began that speech by referring to his catholic faith quoting pope john paul ii. he drew on being a gold star father and the loss he's experienced by talking about his relationships and the empathy we saw as he was dealing with the

refugees, meeting with those who were concerned about loved ones and were in ukraine on the front lines. we saw someone drawing on their experience as a member of the foreign relations committee for decades in the winddown of the cold war. often it's an unscripted remark that can change everything and get all of the attention as senators were reacting to the president's comment that putin had to go. take a listen to some of that reaction. >> i think the president is making all the right moves and i think his comment probably was a very visceral one but not a call for a change in u.s. policy. >> he gave a good speech at the end, but as you pointed out already, there was a horrendous gaffe at the end of it. any time you say or even as he did, suggest that the policy was regime change, it's going to cause a huge problem. >> reporter: the concern now of course is whether this is seen as provocative, as escalatory on

the part of the kremlin. does it affect the negotiations that are going to be resuming between ukrainians and the russians in turkey as you mentioned. there's political fallout back home as well. an nbc poll just released today conducted before the president's trip, it found a slight uptick in how the president is handling foreign policy. still underwater, 42%. only 28% say they have confidence of the president's handling chtd of the crisis in ukraine. this latest episode likely to raise further questions about the president's handling. >> thank you so much for that. let's go to lviv ukraine and nbc's cal perry. what are you seeing after russian airstrikes developed? >> reporter: this is a city that

has in many ways gotten used to the war. this is a city 350 miles from the capitol. we've been sort of removed from the daily violence of the war. we see it in the form of refugees. there are 350,000 displaced persons here who have settled in lviv. we had the strikes yesterday. life returning to normal. in the eastern part and northern part it is an entirely different story. there is fresh fighting in the city of kharkiv and we're starting to see a better picture of that city and casualties streaming into hospitals in kharkiv. one of the things we hear discussed on the ground is no fly zone and more jets coming here potentially from poland. it is to offset the video you're seeing of the russian airstrikes which ukrainian forces say is preventing them from real counter attacks. they want to counter attack them

in kharkiv before they can shut off the eastern part of the country. we heard them talking about the jets and the inherent difficulty and transferring the jets. here's a little bit of what's happened. take a listen. >> the answer is no. if you're asking about the soviet era jets, the united states has decided that the particular proposal put forward by poland is untenable. honestly, if any nato ally wanted to provide those types of pieces of equipment, the fighter jets, the mission, that is a sovereign decision. they can take that sovereign decision. right now the united states is very much focused on their air defense needs and we're delivering multiple capabilities to try and address those requirements. >> now, alex, this really is one of the story lines that has emerged in the first sort of month of this war. you have the nato allies wanting to supply the front and supply

ukraine with everything it needs to supply the war doing so under the table of nato. they're afraid of a possible russian reaction, alex. >> that's for sure. thank you so much, cal perry, from lviv for that. also new today the senate intel committee chair sounding alarm on u.s. infrastructure. >> some of these cyber tools when you put them into the wild, they don't respect geographic boundaries. they don't know what would happen with cyber escalation. so i do think president biden is correct in saying americans need to be ready. we have increased our shields. finally congress passed a law that he signed that requires if you are attacked in the cyber domain, you have to report to the government. so we can share private sector partners, but i think particularly in the finance sector and the energy sector we need to be prepared because an a-tier offense can oftentimes

overcome a defense. the question is how quickly can we then stand back up our systems. >> joining me now is juan zerate. the former deputy national security adviser to president george w. bush. juan, good to see you. >> welcome. >> give me your reaction when you hear that? >> i think everyone had been worried about russian cyber attacks in the context of what they're doing in the ukraine, what they are trying to do to exert influence and certainly given the history of russian activity in the cyber domain. it's not new to worry about russian attacks on u.s. infrastructure and the private sector. i think the expectation has been the u.s. will use cyber attacks at a minimum to deter further u.s. intervention in ukraine and also to perhaps punish or to push back on activities that the u.s. private sector has been engaging in. this is why even before the russian invasion of ukraine, the

u.s. has been working with the private sector. as you heard from senator warner and certainly president biden last week, further warnings to the private sector to be ready. i think it's not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. >> that is a sobering thought for sure. yesterday before has been marked in warsaw, president biden called putin a butcher. he said putin cannot remain in power. from a national security perspective, might that raise potential cyber attack concerns? >> i think it adds to the complexity of the conflict with russia, there's no question about it. certainly feeds the narrative and the sense that president putin has that this is more than just a matter of the attacks in ukraine, the war in ukraine that he has leveled, but it's more about the challenge from the west. frankly, i think the problem with the way the president has expressed this is it feeds right into putin's narrative that this

is more of an existential battle of the russian people, the russian state. he's the defender and proponent of that country. we also have a mismatch of that statement from the president which i don't disagree with by the way. a mismatch of that and our policy. we don't want to escalate and feed the narrative of the u.s. and russia. we certainly haven't acted like we are doing everything to defeat the russians on the battlefield. the whole notion of figuring out how to get the migs into their hands. this is a battle of freedom and autocracy and putin can't have power in moscow. there's a mismatch between what the president is saying and feeling, which is reasonable, and what we're actually doing and what our policy is. >> i have to agree. that's been something that's been a head scratcher for people

to understand, a to b there. let me ask you about ukraine's top military officer who said today that russia is changing its military focus to the south and the east and may be trying to divide between the occupied and nonoccupied territories. first of all, are russian forces able to pull this off? >> we know the russian forces, along with their allies on the ground in donbas, the eastern part of the country, have done this for a number of years, at least tried to occupy space and to carve up bits and pieces of ukraine. what you're hearing is the russians are having to adapt around kyiv and certainly in western parts of ukraine where they're not able to move as freely and certainly haven't been able to occupy space. the question is are the russians as indicated when i the russians themselves trying to concentrate

more on solidifying their control of the space they do have now and then executing from there and negotiating from that position of strength? we'll just have to see whether or not that's really what happens but the russians are going to continue their onslaught. >> let me ask you about tiger team. they have established this team of national security officials. they're calling it tiger team. they're supposed to come up with a response in the event of a chemical attack. here's what he had to say. take a listen. >> we will respond. they share their response depending on the nature of the use. triggering it in kind whether or not you're asking whether they will cross we'll make that at the time. talk to us about the response. a response in kind. what would that be, military

action or other options on the table? >> i think you see the president struggling there, both the hypothetical and with the difficulty of what we would do if the russians actually perpetrated a chemical attack. in kind is not what he meant. it would mean they would respond. it's not an in kind response. but i do think there are a couple of things that can be done. one is to help the ukrainians prepare for what that could look like. so there are specialist teams that worry about chemical attacks. when i was at the white house i worked on weapons of mass destruction, terrorism issues and there are special teams in the u.s. and europe that can help ukraine prepare for this. secondly, they need -- u.s. and allies need to prepare for what happens if putin pushes beyond the boundaries of what he's done

to date. this is a question that appeared in syria and i hate to harken back to the ghosts of syria, but we've been here before where we warned that if russia crossed the red line with the use of chemical weapons, which they did and assad did in syria, that there would be serious consequences. keep in mind president obama said assad had to go. just last week we had assad traveling through the united arab emirates trying to make diplomatic ties and resurrect his machine. there are a lot of things that can be done in preparation. the difficult question is what do you do in response? because that is a real red line and a problem if russia uses chemical weapons. >> speaking of red lines, the kremlin has raised the possibility of using nuclear weapons. they can strike an enemy that only used conventional weapons. how do you assess that threat? moscow is bogged down in the

protracted war against ukraine. do you have any idea what russia's red lines are? >> i think it's harder and harder to tell what putin's red lines are and what his calculus looks like. the challenge we have is we have to assess all of our assumptions about what russia will and won't do in light of what putin has been willing to do here in ukraine. i think the challenges, we want to avoid any escalation that gets close to any sort of nuclear confrontation. there has been talks certainly in russian circles, russian doctrine around the tactical nuclear weapons. this isn't all out nuclear war. obviously who wouldn't want to see that? we wouldn't want to get anywhere near there, but the reality is putin has defined the rungs of escalation. i think we've allowed ourselves to fall into the trap of assuming anything that's provocative is immediately escalatory to the nuclear stage. i think what the russians are

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more new fallout today over president biden's war-time speech reverberating around the globe, but not for the reasons he intended. let's go to nbc's josh lederman joining us from washington. what's the reaction of the president's comments that putin cannot remain in power? >> reporter: these comments by president biden have left europeans scratching their head,

alex, whether the u.s. is seeking a change of leadership in russia which is of course something the white house has walked back. the ukrainians don't want to touch this. their concern is not who's in charge in russia, it's getting russian forces out of their country and ending this invasion of the ukrainian soil. the kremlin certainly is reacting to this with dmitry peskov saying, look, the russian people elected president putin and it's the russian people who should decide who their next leader is. in the west there may be some whom would question whether putin was elected in any kind of free or fair election, but leaving that aside, we are seeing this walk back from the biden administration continuing throughout the weekend with the president's ambassador to nato saying that this was a principled human reaction from president biden on a day when he had just met with ukrainian

refugees and seen firsthand the really traumatic humanitarian effects of this invasion. secretary of state antony blinken doing cleanup during his visit in israel saying this about the president's comments. >> let me be clear and just state right off the bat that the u.s. does not have a policy of regime change towards russia, but i think what we all agree on is that president putin cannot be empowered to wage war. >> reporter: so you see the u.s. ambassador to nato, julie smith, trying to walk the careful line trying to discuss the president's comments. this is not the only thing president biden said while here in poland that ruffled some feathers. he called president putin a butcher and we heard the kremlin saying those are only personal insults that further narrow the

window for diplomacy here. we are hearing from french president emmanuel macron who is distancing himself from that characterization who is saying the goal should be some type of cease-fire and comments like that escalate the situation, do not help the cause of peace, alex. >> giving people a lot to talk and ponder about. thank you so much, josh, from warsaw. secretary of state antony blinken walking back the president's remarks as it is making headlines around the world. let's go to the new developments on the missile strikes that hit lviv. russia is officially climbing responsibility for the strikes hitting western ukraine moments before president biden's war time speech in poland. russian military officials describing it as a high precision strike. joining me now, lieutenant steven twitty. thank you, sir. appreciate having you here with me. so these missiles, as you know, they hit about 250 miles or so

from where president biden was speaking. what do you make of the timing and the location of the strike in lviv? is there any way to interpret it as being anything but intentional? >> well, it could have been intentional, alex, but what i will tell you, poland, the polish border is about 40 miles from lviv and the one thing that the president said in this speech last night, do not think about it. do not think about attacking any nato country and 40 miles with precision munitions, that's a good distance away. so it may have meant to be seen as some type of message. my message that i take out of this is the russians continue to destroy infrastructure. they continue to terrorize the ukrainian people needlessly. these attacks have nothing to do with accomplishing their stated mission or objective which is to

seize kyiv and in place a russian government. >> yes. so we continue to see this terror. >> absolutely. general, how much -- you mentioned that the proximity of lviv to the polish border. on the heels of the president saying very emphatically in that speech yesterday, not one inch of nato land will be compromised and if so, you know, there's going to be retribution for that. i mean, i'm putting words into his mouth, but that was certainly the message, they would defend it. how much do you worry about an accident, an errant something and then look what happens? >> well, you hit it on the head. every single day that goes by in this war there's a chance for some inadvertent to happen. even an inadvertent act, of course we'd have to take a hard look at it. that is an act as well that nato

could consider article 5. obviously there are certain options that would be on the table and so i would tell you that every single day we stand a risk for some type of inadvertent act to happen and then you bring nato into this fight. >> let me ask you about russia, which it says it is doing is shifting its attention to the donbas region, separatist region and that is east. do you believe it is saying that because it is running out of military steam or could it just be a ruse to make ukraine think that's what it's doing and maybe soften up, let up a little bit elsewhere? >> well, it could be both. obviously russia is not succeeding in this war. it's not going to their plan. i've got to tell you, they've had a rough time. i think it's a face saving measure. the russians know they're losing so they're pulling this out to save face.

now you take a look at the donbas area. they've been in the donbas for seven, eight years now fighting down in that location, either with russian proxies or russians themselves. if they make that switch there, they will attempt to link mariupol with odesa all on through maldova. if they get that, then they have established that land bridge for crimea and they could hold there and call success until we just have to continue to watch that. that is a course of action. my view is they're not having success up in kyiv. they're going to continue to push that for a while. i still think they want to try and go for regime change and so we'll just have to wait and see what happens here. >> but you know, i want to ask you. you said it's a rough time for russia. why is it a rough time for russia? is it poor planning? is it that they do not have the military infrastructure that we

all surmise that they did? or is it to your earlier point that they're not going after the stated goals that they said a month or so ago right now, the denazi if i case of ukraine? and in fact what they're doing is creating chaos, hardship, humanitarian crises all over the country. why are they having such a rough time? >> i will tell you all above what you said and more. they're poorly trained. they're poorly led. and by the way, thank god that in america we have a good and sound non-commissioned officer core. i think that is one of the reasons why they're not having success on the ground, particularly with small unit tactics. in terms of the generals out there that are getting killed, it is an indicator that, number one, they're poorly led. they're not doing what's called large scale maneuvers in order

to gain terrain and retain it. their command and control is poorly used so there are a lot of problems that they're having but the main reason is poor leadership and con strabt. >> let me ask you about the concern if there is a diplomatic resolution to the war in ukraine that hands russia any land, that it could be seen as a green light to act again, expand his empire further. david petraeus had this take a short time ago. >> i tend to think this has complicated any ambitions he might have had very, very considerably. this is going to set back his military for years. it's shown the whole world that it wasn't the wonderfully modernized force that everybody thought it might be. this has been a huge challenge for the russians. the fact that they've lost seven generals just because they can't command and control

sufficiently. >> so he thinks that russia's many failures in this war suggest it's going to limit the country's ambitions. do you agree? >> absolutely. i will tell you, for years and if you take a look at what russia did in 2008, they invaded georgia and in 2014 they invaded crimea and then to the day in '22. so for years in europe there's been this constant reminder that the russians could invade one of the other former soviet countries such as poland, latvia, lithuania and so forth. i think what you're seeing now based on russia's not 10 feet tall like we thought they were with their modernization, well trained and so forth, i think these countries now will have much confidence that they're in nato and that they're going to be okay. >> lieutenant general steven

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some new reaction leading lawmakers say about the texts that justice clarence thomas's wife sent to donald trump's former chief of staff. what's the latest on this? >> that's an understatement, alex. there's a lot to unpack here. here's what we know so far. in the weeks following the 2020 election we know justice clarence thomas's wife, ginni thomas, who's a fixture in conservative activism repeatedly

texted mark meadows urging him to fight the results of the 2020 election pushing debunked conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. the committee is in possession of 29 of them. help this great president stand firm, mark. you are the leader with him who is standing for america's constitutional governance at the precipice. the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. alex, these texts were part of a trove of records that mark meadows voluntarily gave to the january 6th committee when he was briefly cooperating with the panel last year. we know that since not the case anymore, but republican congressman adam kinzinger who sits on this committee was asked about this this morning on cbs. he's asked whether these text messages, there could be more of them since they abruptly drop off around december and january of last year. listen here. >> i'm not confident that meadows has handed over everything at all. i mean, he was cooperating with

us for a little bit and then in an attempt to make donald trump happy he stopped cooperating. i'm not convinced he's handed over everything to us. that's why it's in the doj's hands now whether to prosecute him for contempt. >> reporter: and kinzinger wouldn't confirm or deny whether they were in possession of these text messages nor would he confirm or deny whether ginni thomas could be asked to testify in front of the committee. as far as potential fallout, none of them mention the 13r50e78 court or clarence tomorrow mace himself. some say this is a conflict of interest. he was after all the lone dissenting opinion in the supreme court case that allowed the january 6th committee to gain access to trump administration records and there is a very good real potential that he could face future january 6th-related cases. his wife has said pub blackically that she and her

husband keep their personal and work lives separate, but as you said, lawmakers sounded off on the sunday shows today. we had some urging clarence thomas to recuse himself or resign from the supreme court. you had republicans defending him. regardless, this is something when lawmakers, some of them january 6th members, return to capitol hill tomorrow, this is definitely something we will be asking them about. >> this is just the start of this discussion which will probably extend for a while. thank you so much. coming up next, doing their part. how women in ukraine are fighting to save their homeland. also tonight, you should note mehdi hasan has a look at the global fight for democracy. a time of international upheaval. tonight at 8 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. body wash... with a plant-based adaptogen, helps alleviate stress on skin. so you can get back in sync. new dove men. a restorative shower for body and mind.

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41 past. back with this breaking news. russian forces are meeting fierce resistance from ukrainians. even being pushed back around kyiv forcing them to take defensive positions northwest of cab toll. "forbes" reports the ukrainians have more tanks than when the war began because it keeps capturing them from russia. joining me now is anna kobalenko. it's a woman's fighting group that is coordinating with the russian military. she previously served as deputy head of president zelenskyy's force and a member of

parliament. you're definitely coordinating there with the ukrainian military. i hope i said that correctly. anyway, anna, one focus of the 39th maiden is collecting russian military equipment. like what? what kinds of weapons are you taking? how are you getting them? >> actually, we're right. not specialized on that. we more focused like -- okay from beginning. my organization and i am -- and my girls, like some of them fight and are part of the armed forces. the forces are all ukrainian. our members are in different regions of ukraine. we have the opportunity to collect and transmit data on a moment and accumulation of enemy's military equipment for definite units of the armed

forces of ukraine. also due to the ukraine war crimes, we ask citizens to document war crimes and transfer the data to the prosecutor general's office. probably all ukrainians now try to fight against the russians and protect and defend ukraine. so -- >> so let me ask you. what kind of equipment have you been able to get? russian military equipment that is if not being used or you've been able to access it, how do you even get that information? how long does it take for you to get ahold of it? where do you take it? >> actually, i think our -- even our civilian people, they do heroic things and try to capture the tank sometimes.

i heard about two examples, one from the kherson region, second from sumy region, they've just stolen then. probably today even we -- i know that russian army, they just leave part of the air forces defense equipment and ukrainians already took it. ukrainians, we can take -- today in effect any ukrainian is able to get weapon. it belongs to the first level reserves and has combat experience, then he probably knows which military unit he should arrive to receive weapons. if a person doesn't have combat experience but he has a basic

training, he can be called up to the defense unit and get weapon there. if a person has an official weapon like me, then one can also use it to defend the country. two weeks ago there was a relevant law on this option. if someone has illegal weapon then during a search at a checkpoint, a lot of them in ukraine now, the member of the security forces can confiscate the illegal weapon. and there is more to defend. molotov cocktails, you don't understand the term together with the people unless the policeman teaches you how to make molotov cocktails. actually, it's very useful to --

when you want to fight or something like that. sometimes i'm talking right now about what's involved on social media. i'm talking about the local residents. for example, women in conversation with armed invaders, there are other types of resistance to occupiers. you can be a volunteer and try to support the armed forces by investing money and time and actually even foreigners can -- they could -- can be a part of this defense things.

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oh boy. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty♪ he cannot remain in power. those five words power." those five words traveling around the world today. president biden seeking international support framing the war as a once in a generation battle in the fight for democracy. with one sentence the president sparking a global uproar. my next guest writes the comments can an unforced error. joining me now, tom nichols, contributing writer to "the atlantic." thanks for coming back on the show and your perspective. let me read some of your column. what biden was doing, of course, being joe biden. speaking for all of us from the heart. one of the more endearing things about the president, those that admire him, no inner monologue

and enters in a gaffe impolitic but true. this was not a time for such a moment. most agree but prime example the impact of the words of a president of united states carries, even when it may be something everyone's thinking, maybe saying, but thinking. is that how you ultimately see it? >> yes. presidents sometimes have to watch their words. ed president is never off duty. biden was a senator. the currency, i was a staffer in the senate. currency in the realm of the senate is words, talk, speak. control the dialogue. there are times when presidents just can't do that, and i've always, for the many years i

watched joe biden whether agreed with him or not, always liked those moments where he clearly says something he really believes and thinks is true, rather than finesses it, but presidents can't always do that. a moment during a crisis where an american officer had been shot in berlin by the soviets, and someone said, asked mr. president, how do you feel? he said, you don't want to know what i'm thinking's that was probably a good answer. >> i know that one too. you're right. so this speech, though. it had done pretty much what it was supposed to do. sent a very powerful message to the world about it. if this wasn't strategic, why add that? do you think the president is going hindsight is 20/20? should not have said that? fact is, they're clarifying what he said today. >> it's never good when your staff has to go out and explain what you really meant. my guess -- only my guess --

that the president has seen and heard firsthand about the misery putin is inflicting on the ukrainian people. it upset him. he's an emotional guy with a temper, and he added this kicker to an otherwise excellent speech and i would say a full month of being really i think restrained and very positive presidential leadership, and when that happens, and your message gets swamped, that's why i called it an "unforced error." understandable, a human moment but really took away from all the other things going on. >> yeah. to your point a human moment on heels of experiencing firsthand the humanitarian crisis and speaking with mothers and children and that young girl he was holding. just, you know, you know he's empathetic guy with a lot of heart wears it on his sleeve every once in a while perhaps added to sentiments he was feeling. let me read another quote in your piece. puts it in perspective.

especially challenging to stay on target in -- when jfk made his way through the cuban missile crisis he had only to contend with more easily controlled newspapers and three short newscasts each even. biden living with a greek chorus millions offering commentary and advice. some breathtakingly reckless. how much does that add to what we're discussing today? >> i like the fact biden seems to completely ignore things like social media and that's really important for a crisis decision-making. you cannot have 5 million advisers in your head every day, and it could also be how he basically made this error, kind

of forgetting that, oh, yeah. the 24-hour news cycle could pick this up. i wasn't even going to write about it until i turned on my television and realized this thing had just gone viral and was swamping everything else. so i think it's really important that biden continue to just huddle with his advisers and be the steady president he's been. nobody can make decisions in an environment of the 24-hour news cycle, twitter, facebook, instagram. leaders have to ignore all that. we pay them for dispassionate decisions rather than crowd sourcing national security every ten minutes. i'm glad biden's not going that. >> i have a chicken and the egg question, which comes first. given the news cycle we face versus that to your example jfk back in the 1960s, do you think the fact that this is being talked about everywhere is what

forces european international diplomats to come out and make a statement, macron from france, or do you think it's something that is highlighting that which really nields to be highlighted? i mean, do you see where i'm coming from? does the media exacerbate the problem effect? >> well, we're sitting here talking about it. because -- everyone in the world is now talking about it. i think it's unavoidable. i think it's unavoidable because of the nature of communications technology. it was a statement if any president of the united states made it, people around the world would ask questions. whether reported in a newspaper later in the day, or done instantly, and so i think the white house, which i think has had a pretty good coms operation going. realize, we need to get to out and deal with this. looks to me at least in this case all of these happened in

sync. people asking questioned, already on the news cycle. i don't think one led to the other. i think the president said it. everyone who lives in this media environment and that would, in the 21st century said, that's going to be something we have to fix and clarify. that's what they've done today. as i said end of the piece, you know, it was an expression of the president's outrage but i think now we have to get back to helping the people of ukraine win this war. >> yeah. okay. top nichols, awfully good to talk to you. how president vladimir putin's remarks made headlines. actual line putin cannot remain in power, also london, observer quotes biden the use of the word butcher to describe putin. here in the united states, banner headline. biden took aim at putin. "l.a. times" quotes the president above a photo of biden saying biden calls on the west to end putin's brutal dominance.

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