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good day to all of you from msnbc headquarter weres in new york. i'm alex witt.
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breaking at this hour, a new look at ukrainian troops in a suburb of kyiv days after forcing russian troops lufyanka. a painted "o" symbol and issue of poland supplying old jets to ukraine's army. an idea not yet supported by the white house. poland's foreign minister said in spite of u.s. apprehension, the offer remains on the table. >> our offer repeatedly offered after long discussion with nato and our allies still stands. we believe we should be supporting ukraine and their defensive in every possible way. we are hearing if nato all particular country does something, then russia may consider it as an excuse to
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attack. as an excuse for war. well, the thing is that russia doesn't seem to need excuses. >> well, president volodymyr zelenskyy spoke with leaders of france and called on french firms to halt operation in russia and share anti-air defense weapons with ukraine and french officials warning collective guilt if not help gets to the people in mariupol. tense of thousands trapped there. ukrainian officials saying they were able to get about 71,000 people out yesterday. president biden meanwhile taking heavy criticism today for last nine words uttered publicly in poland about russian president vladimir putin. >> let me be clear and just state right off the bat that the u.s. does not have a policy of regime change towards russia, but i think what we all agree on is that president putin cannot
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be in power to wage war. >> in the mind of putin, someone watched, rewatched, you know, old videos of gadhafi being taken and killed, this kind of thing, it will play on his mind and could complicate matters going down the road. >> hmm. a new nbc news poll taken before biden's remark 71% express low confidence in biden's ability to deal with the invasion. joining us now from the war front nbc's cal perry from lviv resident josh letterman from warsaw with latest on refugees there and my colleague tracking the latest military action. welcome all. fir to cal in lviv. where is the fighting still going on and what can you tell us specifically about mariupol. hearing updates on humanitarian corridors. any updates? >> reporter: absolutely. just heard from president zelenskyy dropped on the
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telegram his nightly addressed and continued to call the 100,000 civilians basically russian hostages but changed rhetoric a little in the speech talking about the bodies of dead russian soldiers that the russians haven't withdrawn from mariupol because they cannot collect all the dead bodies. look, he is putting on a face for this country. he is absolutely trying to talk about the best of what he views as an absolutely horrible situation where civilian there's are trapped and being shelled and we continue to the hear this from the ukrainian government saying 16,000 dead russian troops. nato puts it between 7,000 and 14,000 and an idea how brutal and fierce fighting is there. to the west of that, the capital of kyiv and there is a counteroffensive ukrainian forces are carrying out in the western part of the city. actually moved the russian lines
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20, 30 miles back and punched through and possible ukrainian forces to surround russian troops in these areas and a major increase in p.o.w.s and dead soldiers. all of this is leading ukrainian government to double down on calls for both no-fly zone and for those jets to make their way from poland. we had the u.s. representative to nato making rounds on the morning shows who talked about the difficulty in getting these jets here to ukraine. here's a little of what she had to say. >> the answer is, no. if you're asking about the soviet era jets, the united states has decided that the particular proposal put forward by poland is untenable, but honestly, if any nato ally wanted to provide those types of, pieces of equipment, the fighter jets, the migs, that is a sovereign decision. they can take that sovereign decision. right now the united states is very much focused on air defense needs and we're delivering
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multiple capabilities to try and address those requirements. >> reporter: nato countries, of course, do not want to directly hand these to ukraine. worried about response from russia. it's a two-front war. ukrainians making advancement and mariupol and lviv, almost as if the russian military is punishing them for the military efforts they're making. >> josh letterman joining us from warsaw. what's the reaction, latest on the president's speech yesterday there in warsaw? >> reporter: alex, no surprise that the russian government was not particularly pleased by president biden's suggesting that president putin should be removed from power. the kremlin actually fairly moderated in its response saying
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oath the russian people are the ones who elected vladimir putin, and they will be the one whose should decide who should lead russia in the future. we are also hearing from a prominent russian billionaire, ole af who saying president biden's speech and in particular the key sentence about pooting putin not staying in power shows a hellish mobilization going on against russia saying it's an indication world leaders including the united states plan to continue an effort against russia for many years to come. we are also hearing today from ukraine's ambassador to the u.s., objection oksana saying whether putin should leave power but did say this. >> it's clear to us that russia
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is a terrorist state led by a war criminal, and we are working day and night and fighting fiercely to defend our land, and to defend our democracy, and everyone should be brought to justice. so i think it will be difficult to run a state from hague. >> reporter: reference to international criminal court and move by u.s. and many other nations formally labeling president putin a war criminal and accuse russia of war crimes in its invasion of ukraine pap long process would lie ahead for anybody to be prosecuted on its unlikely that putin will see justice there given the fact russia is not part of the icc but the rest of europe is closely watching what president putin said including french president emmanuel macron saying it's not helpful. he is hoping to hold, open a
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narrow window for diplomacy between the russians and the ukrainians potentially facilitated by third countries and says comments like what president biden said do not move us any farther in the direction of peace. alex? >> okay. josh letterman, thank you from warsaw. appreciate that. bring in misha zelensky special correspondent for the "financial review." go to have you back on the broadcast. sindt you're currently on the ground there in ukraine how are folks reacting to the president's speech in poland yesterday? i add shortly after the speech a member of ukrainian parliament was on and sort of hurt for me to hear her apologize a few times by saying, we appreciated the speech, but this president is not giving us what we need. she said we need a no-fly zone. we need jets. we need anti-aircraft defenses given to us. and face it. this is a recurring theme. have you heard that as well? >> reporter: yes.
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so i suppose two things. first thing i think good to hear the president speak with moral clarity. that in ukraine people do think putin is a butcher and think he's a war criminal and do think should be regime changes. disappointing to see the comments walked back. someone talking earlier about jfk in the program when kennedy says, each benign beliner, actually talking about berlin in new hampshire. the president speaking with clarity is important. in terms of the no-fly zone. you're right. the bigger question. not every politician's president zelenskyy but every day ordinary ukrainians. the phrases they use "close our skies." realistically, closing of the skies or no nigh zone asking american policy to shoot down russian jets and trigger world war iii. nobody wants that. we should allow ukrainians to close their own skies eve aen in the weapons they can use.
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soviet weapons, in poland and other eastern bloc countries, give those weapons to the ukrainian army immediately and train them as the west has to close the aerial gap with russians. the only area russians have superiority. at a distance, ukrainians massively disadvantaged but up close fighting well. ability to close skies or stop this long range, mid range bombardment significant for ukrainians. >> 100%. you were in lviv when russia spoke that depot. before the details of that, what's happening on the ground today. can you describe the aftermath and has there been anymore military activity in that region of lviv? >> reporter: no. been quiet today. yesterday was very intense. two strikes within several hours right around, very close to
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civilian buildings. >> and very close, close when the president was speaking. it's as if -- >> reporter: yes. >> you could imagine that the military struck as close as they could to the polish border with the president just being -- a couple hundred mimes on opposite side speaking in warsaw with intention in terms of location and timing? >> this was a message to the west undoubtedly and to joe biden who was 200 miles away from lviv and 50 miles a, from the border of poland. undoubtedly time's not a coincidence. putin doesn't do anything by accident. a message to the west to back off and frankly good to do see see biden in the country and poland, talking of refugees and talking to people. and positive speaking about putin being removed. end of the day, putin is a war criminal. difficult to understand how the russian federation led by
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vladimir putin even if a cease-fire can be welcomed into the world as ordinarily before the war. might be political or diplomatic talking regime change but nothing diplomatic about killing innocent civilians and bombing maternity wards and hospital. what putin is doing. the idea worry about what this guy thinks about anything. be clear, meddling in democracies throughout the year. meddles in the u.s. presidential election. the idea we should care about what he says about anything is silly. >> quote you. last line's a good one. let me ask you your experience when that fuel depot was struck as well as on the other side of town. second strike closer to the polish border, brings up all sorts of concerns about were there errant strike, that's another issue. if you thought people of lviv
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were surprised by this attack. a few days ago russia said it would shifting focus to the donbas region. apparently not yesterday? >>. >> reporter: that's right. seemed to consolidate the gang, toe so to speak, in they look like they lost 58,000 troop oos. last sunday, four generals now lost seven generals. three in the space of a week. this is an xroid near underperformance for his military. quite clever tactics from the ukrainians targeting senior leadership of the army. you're right. in terms of the attack, certainly came unexpectedly, but the waiter of lviv has said every city in ukraine just as unsafe or safer than any other city. a bomb could fall from the sky at any moment but we need to get on with our life supplying the eastern parts of the country and the war. lviv a big economy. a lot going on here and really
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the gateway into the west of supply chains. it's really important the city doesn't drop its guard. today walking around the city is quite extraordinary. less than 24 hours of a double strike by putin's missiles and the city could not have been more vibrant, the spirit greater. harder putin hits ukrainian cities and their people, their resilience and spirits go up further and further and their determination to be here and gain independence from his armys is only more resolute, alex. >> okay. thank for the chat. look forward to seeing you next weekend. come see me then. thank you. a new concern for nato and the u.s. about two years or so away. why the subject came up while president biden was overseas. w . intuit quickbooks helps you easily send your first invoice in 3 steps. simple.
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stories we're following for you this hour, a crash from last
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week plummeting almost 30,000 feet killing 32 onboard. the recorder found about five feet underground side of the mountain where that aircraft went down. columbia's attorney general says foo fighter's drummer had many different drugs in this system when he died. no official cause of death. and lin-manuel miranda will not attend the oscars after his wife tested positive. he will sit out about a precaution though he didn't test positive. his did work on the disney movie "encanto." and solutions to end the war in ukraine more call for air power helping fend often air strikes. >> stop telling biden or poot whan putin what he's going to
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do. we need more anti-aircraft, anti-ship, anti-tank equipment there. >> joining me now, evo daalder former ambassador to nato and former security council during the clinton administration. lots of chat about the mig jets and why u.s. doesn't support poland giving theirs to ukraine. what are pros and cons of that? >> well, i think the administration is perfectly fine with polling sending migs to ukraine. they're not prepared to have those fly to a u.s. air base and then the united states send the mig's into ukraine. technical difference but a real
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one. importantly we're making a lot migs. there plenty of ukrainian aircraft flying over skies of ukraine. al real problem we need to continue to ship as many air defense capabilities we have. we are shipping stinger anti-aircraft missiles working hard with countries with soviet era defense equipment, of course, the united states does not, to have those equipment shipped across the border and replaced by more modern nato-level equipment. so lots going in to the country and also important to remember that much of the damage, in fact, the vast majority of damage, is not done by helicopters or by aircraft. it's long-range missiles. short-range missiles, artillery and tank shells and why it's important to send and continue to send these javelin anti-tank weapons and others.
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17,000 so far sent into ukraine in just the past four weeks. so, yes. we need to continue to do as much as we can, but there's no silver bullet here. russians are stronger militarily than the ukrainesens. ukrainians have better fighting skill and morale on their side. other than us directly intervening, this going to go on for quite a long time. >> you make a bunch of great points, but go back to the one made very beginning. make sure i heard it correctly. you said those mig fighter jets would have to be launched from a u.s. air base, that the polish fighter jets, correct me if i heard you mistakenly. if that is the case, why? why couldn't the polish mig jets launch from poland? >> well, because the pols don't want to fly polish aircraft, polish pilots into the ukrainian air space, then they could possibly become part of the war. same reason the united states
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doesn't want to fly even polish migs from american air base with american pilots. issue, how do you get the migs -- technical but important one -- nato countries are trying to avoid getting directly involved in this conflict. rightly or wrongly, that has been the decision reaffirmed by nato at the summit just a few days ago. so the question is how do you -- >> you talk about the logistics. literally, how to get those planes across the border into ukraine so that ukrainian pilots can fly them in their own region above their airspace in their country and go after the russians? that's what it is? just logistically getting those jets into ukraine? that's what sounds like. >> that's my understanding, and the united states has said that they are not prepared to help in that endeavor. again, whether -- i don't know how you help it, because ultimately flying those jets requires ukrainian pilots to fly
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them. also one of the questions i keep on asking myself and not asking others and not getting answero an answer to, these migs have been modernized that the pols have significantly. different avianices, upgraded. a question whether ukrainians can fly them and have technical training ability to do that. >> whether or not airports that have been bombed out. a lot of jets need quite a long run space. trying to take off from airports bombed out strategically by the russian military a problem as well. another question that may sound elementary. if it does, apologies. talking about the migs issue. explained that it's a very large border between poland and ukraine. a porous border. aren't there areas by which a plane could be taken over the border literally, i mean -- put it on back of a large trailer,
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put it in trains? if, down those migs be moved on the ground? i mean, again -- i'm just trying to fidget up solutions. >> possibly. we usually -- the way the transport of an airplane, fly it. >> sure. >> generally -- hard to put an airplane on a helicopter -- a helicopter on a moving vehicle, how do you put a plane on it? literally cranes and put -- it's possible you can do that, but, again. don't overestimate importance of these migs. i think as you rightly said, there are limited runway space. ukrainian air force still has a good number of migs that they are flying themselves. there are lots of other capabilities that will have far greater impact on the war that we should be sending. clearly one of the things that's made a major impact are these armed drones the turks have been spending that, my understanding, we have helped the turks to make
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sure they are getting there and getting to the right kinds of people. there are other armed drones we ourselves are sending 100 armed drones for short range distances and more we can do. there's the sense that i get that there's, somehow there's a silver bullet here. if only this would happen the war would be over. well, that's not the case. we're going to be fighting a long time and we need to provide the ukrainians with everything possible and i think we are providing them with extraordinary amounts of capabilities. 1.35 billion of equipment sent already in the past four weeks. >> yeah. absolutely. ambassador, when i keep ukrainians, soundbites have various talk shows talk about wantsing to establish a no-fly zone. the drones you talk about. could they be effective in doing
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that? are they helping significantly? >> they're doing something much more important. actually taking out the very capabilities that are bombaring these cities. artillery, long-range rocket systems or tanks. overwhelmingly they're doing the damage. rockets, missiles, artillery and tanks launching at these buildings. that's doing the damage. not as much bombs dropped from airplanes or missiles launched from airplanes. so what the drones are doing is going after the machines that are doing the killing. that's the exact right way to do, to think about it. even if you were to establish a complete no-fly zone, no helicopters, no -- soviet or russian airplanes flying anywhere over ukraine, much of the killing would continue, because it's coming from ground
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fire. that should be a major consideration. why we're sending javelins, anti-armor, anti-tank missiles. why we're sending armed drones and need to continue to send them in order for ukrainians to continue to fight as effectively as they have already demonstrated so far that they are able to do. >> okay. former u.s. ambassador to nato, you've answered some of my questions and i hope therefore many question es from viewers. appreciate you. russia says it's re-assessing its military strategy. is that the truth or another russian ruse? what might all of that look like? that's next. that's next. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at home. maybe it's another refill at your favorite diner...
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donbas region. richard lui at the big board for us. talk about the strategy there. what do you know? >> heard this before, alex. the friday news dump, try to put news out there not good news so it won't get a lot of coverage? perhaps what russians were doing announcing friday that indeed, yes. they were going to focus more on the east. that they will shift forces farther to the right of my board right now. because they're failing in kyiv? as you've discussed with some of or guests? to call defeats and retreats of russian troops part of an eastern rearimt. bat potential of the armed forces of ukraine considerably reduced. it hearing from a russian official. that makes it possible to focus core efforts on achieving the main doll, the liberation of donbas. what russians are saying. that is consistent with what
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we've seen overnight and in recent days. forces from the north we have been following and according to reports out in kharkiv, now going south and forces as well from mariupol going north here. trying to close off the ukrainian forces that are in this eastern, southern area. also in essence choking off the supplies that are coming from the west. so that's what we have seen terms where forces have been. fresh reinforcements russia can now turn off and they can turn this entire board here all red on the right. that might be the goal right now as they look at this area. this will all turn solid red. in a sign of strength or weakness, u.s. official telling reuters first time seeing signs that russia was looking to draw troops from georgia. way bottom here. this is georgia. that's georgia. i'm not grog to do it like we do it in the states. write it out here. this is about 500 to 1,000
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miles. a first time we've had word they're going to try to redeploy and try to reinforce this area. adding to why the east may make sense, the russian defense ministry said this as well. that they, according to the defense ministry, again, now control 93% of ukraine's luhansk area overhere and 54% of the don donetsk area. fits the let's go east narrative. overnight russia agrees to two humanitarian corridors coming off, guess where? mariupol and luhansk. consistent, again. showing an intent to drain the east of pro-ukrainians. question asked this sunday is this putin's definition of an off ramp? this area right here? by securing south and east, this
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area here, he has territorial continuity from russia down to this little port down here. the port. that port is important, alex, because it is a warm water port. from december to march, the sea of azoff here freezes over. it's frozing now. can't move anything in or out. territorial continuity down to that port means at will russia can move in and out not only goods but can launch their warships, like submarines and other transports out into the black sea. super important. paramount in strategy, no doubt. one ukrainian official saying today on top of all of this that they could potentially, russia, and vladimir putin, try to create a new north and south korea type in this very area so in essence, what you would have is this area, that's occupied -- and this area not.
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>> hmm. >> one last scenario. also discussed by experts. is this north/south korea scenario instead for, in putin's mind here, running down the dnipro river through kyiv? in essence a huge occupied area. and the dnipro river being the new tmz of europe? dmz, excuse me, of ukraine. as you said at the top, alex, whether it's true or whether they're act on it we don't know. but seems to be consistent with two potential putin ideas of off ramps. >> again, awesome. i learned so much. steve kornacki better look out. all i got to say. >> he's the man. can't say that. >> i didn't mean that. you as well now. launch very much, richard lui.
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meantime president biden back in the white house facing new criticism, of course, saying that vladimir putin cannot remain in power during his speech in poland yesterday. go to nbc's mime memoli at the white house. in general, mike, how's washington reacting to the president's remarks? >> reporter: well, interesting about this, we have seen the president really hasn't been reluctant to use charged language about the russian president. in the last few weeks called him a war criminal. yesterday even before his speech a butcher. a dictator as well. the issue driving in washington, putin cannot remain in power amounts to a substantial change in policy on the part of the administration, if the president really is calling for regime change. the white house, of course, is walking what the president said back. saying that's not what the president meant to infer by what he said yesterday. here is a sort of read what some of those are responding to here in washington, how they view the
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president's remarks. take a listen. >> the president i think is a straight shooter, deeply empathetic, frustrated with the scenes of children, women killed. >> children? >> and the white house has been clear. they have been disciplined and said we need a negotiated end to the war. has to be with putin as a settlement. not the policy regime -- >> that's not the official u.s. policy, and by saying that, that regime changes our strategy effectively plays into the hands of the russian propagandists and hands of vladimir putin. a mistake and the president recognized that. >> reporter: alex, driving all the u.s. policy decisions in this ukraine invasion so far has been the effort to deescalate the crisis, avoid escalating the crisis. why the president has been reluctant, for instance, to employ a no-fly zone as ukrainians have been calling for and why he doesn't want to engage further in potentially
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offering additional air power. offensive weaponry to ukrainians. the really question now, how does vladimir putin ultimately read what the president said yesterday? use it as pretext for escalation, maybe walking away from the bargaining table, as we know ukrainians and russian set to sit down, at least some negotiators, in turkey later this week. >> great points. thank you from the white house, mike memoli. joining me, congressman al green democrat from texas and member of the homeland security and financial services committees. welcome back to the broad cast. your reaction to the president's speech yesterday. overall impression from it and that last part, famous nine words now when he said putin cannot remain in power. we know the white house almost immediately clarified those remarks. even if joe biden, sir, saying what many around the world are indeed thinking, do you think it was a mistake for a president, president biden, to say that? >> i think that the president
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gave an outstanding speech. just for the record. he went into areas other than this. he talked about the 100,000 in the country, humanitarian aid. all things that are very important. i think that the president understands that we have to have a policy that does not invite persons to want to have our administration changed. so i think it has been properly explained. it i stand with think president. he's a good man with a good heart, and he's a sage. he understands much more than we, because he has intelligence that we don't have, but also has years of experience. so i regret that it happened but i don't think that it's incurable and i also would add this -- what begs the question is, what the russians might say about the need for people in russia to determine who they're leader is. well, that begs the question,
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shouldn't the people in ukraine turn, determine who their leader's going to be? shouldn't they decide who they're going to associate with? they are an autonomous sovereign country. how can you invade another country, look to take leadership out and still insist leaders within the country ought to be selected by people within the country? >> good point. certainly up to the russian people to decide whom they want to lead them. that said, let me ask you about the confirmation hearings this week, sir. of course, with judge ketanji brown jackson. i know you were there in the room and in fact actually mentioned in the questioning this by senator lindsey graham. play part of that. here it is. >> judge, if this is not of your making, really not about you, but representative green, who's a fine man came up and said that he thought exchange between you and senator leahy at the end about the time how far we've come as a nation was -- i guess
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here's my point i'm trying to make to the american people to my democratic colleagues. i wish you had that same attitude when an african american conservative is appointed to high office in the judiciary. so what happened with janice rogers brown? rather than this wonderful exchange, which was wonderful. representative green, where were you and others when there was a wholesale assault on her nomination? nowhere to be found. >> well, now is your time to respond. should you care to, sir, and also your overall reaction to your republican colleagues and the way they questioned judge jackson? >> well, thank you for the opportunity. i'd like to compliment jennifer jennifer -- senator graham who said i'm a fine man. i think he's a fine man and i
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think he's made point i'd like to focus on. where was i when judge janice rogers brown was being considered? well, i wasn't there to make decisions about her. as a matter of fact, she was never nomen bated to the supreme court. and he seems to make the point that she was a suitable candidate for the supreme court. but what he escapes is, and avoids is, that she was not the only black woman that could have been nominated by republicans. donald trump, president, while in office nominated three candidates to the supreme court. not one of them was a black woman. ample opportunity was there. so, my dear friend, whom i have a great deal of respect for, where were you when president trump was nominating persons other than a black woman? what did you do to get a black
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woman's name into the mix? that's my question. now, in terms of the overall behavior, i thought some of it was across the line. some of the questions about religion. the way some of the questions were presented to her without giving her an opportunity to respond. and i have to commend chair of the committee for his efforts to try to prevent her from being disrespected. he did try. unfortunately, senators have a great deal of latitude in terms how they question a person. and it went on, but i do hope we can conduct some of these future hearings with a greater degree of dignity and respect. finally i'd say this -- if not her, who? harvard twice undergrad jd, harvard lawyer, cum laude.
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if not her, who? harvard law review. if not her, who? three times before this committee. supported in a bipartisan fashion. if not her, who? is there an impenetrable glass keeling? will she only be able to see the supreme court and never get there? this is a fine moment for my republican friends to show support for a person who is capable, competent and qualified. has a rich history in this country. this is the kind of story that we like to tell around the world about how only in america can this happen. she is deserving of this, and i'm begging my friends who are republican to, please, show her some support. it will make a lot of hearts warm and it will give you a place in history that you will relish and your family and children and children and grandchildren will look upon with favor and posterity saying you were there at the right
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place with at the right time with a righteous attitude. >> well said, congressman green. in a different situation i would stand up and applied you. so thank you very much. your words are very much appreciated. good to see you. a message to ukraine and the white house coming from the lincoln memorial in washington. show you a bit more on that later on this hour. hour. i'm mark and i live in vero beach, florida. my wife and i have three children. ruthann and i like to hike. we eat healthy. we exercise. i noticed i wasn't as sharp as i used to be. my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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what would this mean for the donbas region? >> well, russians have to come up and vladimir putin has to come up with some explanation to his country men this was the plan. that he didn't intend to invade ukraine even though we the plan to was invade kyiv, but now since they collapsed, the army stopped, the army is broken, they have to come up with an explanation it's not us being so weak as an army. this is the plan that we came up with before. now we will focus only on this special operation in donbas. this is an excuse he's coming up with and his army generals, how to explain to his people why they're failing in ukraine now. >> you bring up the point of his people. i mean, the intent, he goes into denazify ukraine and would come back with just a piece of the country, the donbas region,
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which has seen so many issues anyway. you sort of wonder if the russian people would buy this. >> well, unfortunately, to be honest, russian people are buying this. if you see the polls, let's compare the russian polls and the villarussian polls. 97% of villarussian people are against the war in ukraine. if you compare it to russians, 70% of russians are in favor of the war in ukraine. let's be honest. a lot of ukrainians have relatives in russia. i have an aunt, my mom's sister lives in russia. the first day of war, she called my mom and said it was our fault that we were too influenced by the united states and that we should have just gave up the territory. so the problem is that these people are so fed up and brain washed with all of these information that has been going on out all of the tv channels that they literally believe we're nazis, that we're some kind of, i don't know, criminals
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or extreme right, as we are now being posted on russian media. so unfortunately, these people are brain washed and i don't see there is much support coming from the russians as i see from belarusians and everybody else. >> let's hope the truth gets out at some point for the russian people. they deserve to know the truth. do you have any updates regarding the two humanitarian corridors that were supposed to be up and running today. it was reported 70,000 people were evacuated from mariupol, do you know how thicks stand today with evacuations? >> i don't have all of the data, all of the latest data, but i know there has been some success, compared to what we had for the last month. we did manage to get some people out. but unfortunately, we lost a lot of people. we lost a lot of volunteers who were trying to help people and to come to mariupol and other
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cities. it is very important, and i would really like to bring this up. the key problem for us now, the same thing that happened in mariupol is going to happen to any other city in ukraine, to kharkiv, to kyiv, we have seen it already in other places. unfortunately, we do not have the air defense systems coming to ukraine now because we had president biden come out almost two weeks ago and say that ukrainians will get the air defense system like s-300, that the president of ukraine was asking when he addressed the gres of the united states. unfortunately, nothing is there yet. and unfortunately, before we get it, the cities will be bombed and shelled and the best we can do is try to get and evacuate some people out. what you see right now in the picture will continue to happen. mariupol is 90% destroyed. it was a 450,000-people city which is half the size of
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washington, d.c. could you believe this happen in any other country? we keep begging. we can do our job on the ground. we don't need anybody to come and fight for us. but we desperately need the air defense systems and the jets to protect our people, and even the safe corridors because we cannot provide a safe corridor if there are russian planes flying above it. literally shooting people. >> i have to tell you, we have been discussing this issue a lot on this broadcast today and we'll continue doing so going forward. thank you for your time today. i look forward to seeing you again. >> a nagging question, can the u.s. do more to help ukraine, to the point she was making right there? right now, hundreds are gathering in washington to send their clear answer to the white house. when i got out of school, i ended up having a tremendous amount of student loan debt. sofi helped me refinance all my student loans into one loan, with one low interest rate, and one affordable monthly payment. not only have i made significant payments to my principal with sofi, i can actually see the end in sight
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a no-fly zone, what else does everybody there want? >> hey there, alex. kyiv is just about 5,000 miles away from where i'm standing right now. the support for ukraine is really worldwide. that's what folks here are trying to tell. i have charles show you what this scene looks like. a couple hundred people on the steps of the lincoln memorial. we heard from the former ambassador to ukraine. we heard from the current ukrainian ambassador to the u.s., what they're saying is all is a before the war and an after the war, and they say they're going to fight and they're going to win this war, but to fight, they say they need humanitarian assistance. they say they need the air defense systems and they say they want a no-fly zone. that's of course something that is very controversial, something that the biden administration, as you have been talking about all hour, has been reluctant to have. by talking to folks here about the flags they have, i said where did you get these flags? did you have these flags? many said they got them from amazon. said had them for years.
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one said they got two pieces of fabric yesterday and sewed them together because every little bit helps. >> thank you very much from washington for that. that's a wrap for me on this edition of alex witt reports. we'll be back next saturday at noon eastern. yasmin vossoughian continues after a break. or the sea shore. into the city, or far from it. you and all your friends, or just you and the open sky. the experiences we never forget come from the choices we make. including this one. the wagoneer. or the grand wagoneer. grand adventures. the choice is yours. wayfair's got just what you need to be outdoorsy. your way! shop the biggest selection of outdoor furniture and furnish your habitat from your habitat. get a new grill and cook over an open flame. now that's outdoorsy!
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