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drastically reduce military activity away from the city. at the same time, the so-called jewel of the black sea is getting ready for battle. odesa has now barricaded its beloved opera house and loaded the waters. a top naval official says they're ready to fight. >> we will kill them, drown them, he says. >> you don't think they can take odesa. >> we will sink them and it will be fish feeding season and our fish will grow fat. >> meanwhile, we have our eyes on the white house because any second now president biden is due to welcome the prime minister of singapore. it comes on the heels of a critical phone call between president biden and the leaders of france, united kingdom,
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germany and italy. let's get to our team on the ground, keir simmons is on the ground following those peace talks. richard engel is in kharkiv and peter alexander is at his post in 1600 pennsylvania avenue. a lot seems to be coming out of the talks this morning, including that potential change in russia's military posture near kyiv. also, the issue of security guarantees that officials said they want to see. what more can you tell us? >> well, that's right, craig. so russia announcing that it will drastically reduce its combat operations crucially around the capital of ukraine, kyiv. and that appears to have come from these talks in which it does seem, craig, as if some trust has been built where they
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began with the two sides not shaking hands. and you mentioned what sounds like ukrainians are asking for is they would agree, for example, not to join nato, not to ask to join nato but they would be given security guaranteed by countries that those countries would agree that if there were more combat operations from russia that they would be protected by the west if you like. so what we're seeing here, craig, is perhaps the easier things to agree on in the building behind me here. and that is the way that a political settlement may pan out. what we don't know, craig, is what the territory agreement would be, which part of ukraine, if any, would ukraine agree for russia to hold. you can imagine how that may be far more difficult in future talk. >> richard engel just laid out
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the key-level talks.seeing on t ground where you are, richard? >> we are seeing continuous war. we're seeing russia continue to bombard this city day and night. we're seeing ukrainian troops firing back. no change to the posture here. a u.s. military official told reporters in the pentagon that they are seeing some indications of russian forces pulling back from areas of kyiv. but even that official at the pentagon said it is too early to tell if this is real, if russia is changing its position around kyiv or if it is just regrouping. but following this announcement, they did see some troop movement. but i must say, speaking to ukrainians here, speaking to officials, there is a tremendous amount of skepticism.
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this war began with a lie from russia. it has been built on several different lies. the basic lie was that russia was just carrying out military exercises along its borders and that it swore up and ground it wasn't going to invade. it claims this country is run my nazis. it is not. there is a jewish president and there is no nazi regime here. it is difficult to just take what the russians say at this stage at face value. also, they're pulling back from kyiv potentially. what about the rest of the country? the russian forces still occupy most of the southern coast except for odesa, which fears it could be next. one announcement i don't think fundamentally changes the announcement. and the security announcements that keir was talking about a moment ago, they are immensely
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calculated. you can't get involved in other wars outside of nato. that is the whole point of it. how could a nato member offer security guarantees that doesn't end up dragging it and all the other nato countries in with it? so it is an extremely complex and sensitive time in these negotiations. potentially we're seeing some progress or potentially it is a stalling tactic that russia is using to rearm and to explain away why it has had such battlefield losses particularly in that area it claims to be pulling back from. >> richard engel for us there in kyiv, just after 6:00 there. thank you as always. keir, i know you are talking to ukrainians. you talk to ukrainians there as well, these negotiators. do you get a sense that they are remotely optimistic? >> they are apparently.
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they do seem to be more optimistic. with all the caveats that richard talked about there and all of the caveats that even turkey itself here is saying, we should keep in mind as we look closely at what progress has been made. another sign that perhaps things are a little positive is that russians appear to now be suggesting, craig, they would be prepared for president putin to meet with president volodymyr zelenskyy. now it appears they are saying that is possible. one of the crucial things we don't know is, of course, remember president putin doesn't use e-mail or electronic devices, the kind of things we use every day for obvious reasons. so how much has he been told. to what extent has his negotiators had to go back or explain to him in person on russian secure lines. so there is an awful lot of progress still to be made.
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but small glimmers that perhaps there can be a deal. again, though, craig, and this goes to the point that richard was making, an important thing to think about here is that in many ways, this ukrainian crisis has been frozen since 2014. if you like, ongoing since 2014. so if there is a peace deal, is it durable or is it, as richard suggested, a holding pattern for more conflict at some point in the future. >> let us not forget about it at some point. mr. alexander, the white house call, that white house call with european leaders just ended last hour, any word yet from the white house on what was talked about? >> yeah, greg. we're getting some information from the administration officials familiar with this call, the call lasting just shy of an hour. obviously president biden and his allies across the world put an emphasize on staying in touch and he is in touch frequently
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with his european leader. they were at the nato meeting, the meeting of the g7 leaders all in advance of his visit to poland there. the u.s., uk, france and italy. it is the french president who is scheduled to speak to vladimir putin again this morning. it was scheduled to happen right now so this would have been an opportunity for these allies to speak before that call took place. i am hold by officials here the failure of the russian military campaign in the eyes of the americans in the effort to try to spin what the u.s. deems to be its losses, its failures to this paint saying they are focussed on the south and the east when obviously from the start they indicated their desire was to take over the entirety of ukraine. in the words of one official,
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they're trying to strengthen the hand of ukraine diplomatically and militarily. diplomatically as it relates to those confers taking place in turkey. obviously the backdrop to this call is the president's own comments that powerful speech he delivered in poland where the president received some push back including from emanuel mack kron when he said, for god's sakes, in his words, this man cannot be in power. the white house appeared to walk that back. but the president is defending those words. i am told by white house officials, they have received no formal complaints from some of their allies, their allies overseas. >> peter alexander at the white house for us. keir simmons in istanbul.
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little bit of both. russia's shifting military strategy in ukraine and whether what it is saying it will do is actually happening on the ground there. that's next. the stock is bubblg in the pot ♪ ♪ just till they taste what we've got ♪ [ tires squeal, crash ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive gets you right back to living the dream. now, where were we? [ cheering ]
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it could quote, drastically cut back its military activity near kyiv. it came just hours after ukraine's forces said the russians are attacking residential areas of ukrainian cities and fuel storage facilities. in fact, this is what one ukrainian fighter outside told our richard engel. >> we're hearing a lot of fire right now. it sounds very intense. what's been happening here? >> we have repelled every russian assault, he says. now they're just bombing us from
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afar. >> with me now, retired u.s. army major general. general is now senior fellow of the security program at the center for european policy analysis. i'll start with you. the russians say they will basically reduce military activity near the capitol, near kyiv. any signs of that? have we seen anything that would indicate that so far? >> craig, not exactly. what is interesting is that pentagon and british defense officials have been dug in around kyiv and forced to retreat around several areas over the past week because of the counter attacks that the ukrainian forces have managed to carry out. in a way, it is almost an acknowledgment that they're failing there outside the capitol. now, whether there is a drastic reduction around kyiv, we have
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to see. also, the announcement did indicate there may be some movement in those peace talks that took place in istanbul today. it raised a glimmer of hope there may be some traction. >> general, how long will it take for us to get a clear and reasonably accurate assessment on whether they have actually cut back military activity here in the capitol. >> we need to take a look at the big picture here because i'm not sure the russian aims change as much as the way they were attempting to execute them or achieve them. so in case of the around kyiv, they may relocate forces further to the east so they can at least secure the donbas because it seems as ensuring nato troops aren't
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stationed in ukraine, doing as much as they can to retain crimea, maybe international recognition or at least some type of recognition from ukraine. and with that maintain some type of continuity in an over all effort in information ukraine about ukraine being part of russian speaking citizens and russian culture. so the donbas is very important for continuity since that's where they first began in 2014. i think they will consolidate as much as they can as possible to retain that effort there and as much as possible to retain ground gain in the south. i'm not sure they will get the land grab they hoped for. but i'm not sure the overall aim has changed. what we're seeing are tactical
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adjustments to a way of achieving their overall aim. >> general, i want to play just a little bit of what john kirby told my colleagues this morning on "morning joe" about what's gone wrong. >> we think they overestimated their own ability to maneuver and to take and hold ground. they underestimated the ukrainian's ability to fight for their country. they had logistic problems. they are having trouble feeding their troops. >> general, what do you make of that assessment there? >> i think it's spot on. i would say that the russians have failed strategically, operationally, tactically. strategically in terms of achieving their aim of a neutral or friendly ukraine through regime change, breaking the political wheel rapidly through a quick military campaign.
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they haven't done that. they have done just the opposite. they also undermine the west. they have woken up ukraine's patriotic bear, those willing to die for their country and we see the military forces, ukraine military forces. their offensive on all sides, the north, the east and the south. they haven't been able to achieve the kind of consolidated connection of those efforts over time. they felt they maintained operational mobility, reinforcing success in one area, reinforces maintain momentum as the defense official said and they fail to overwhelm the ground and air forces. they haven't executed air defense at all.
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a level of mission command or local initiative we're seeing ukraine at all levels. they haven't been able to succeed in any of those levels we would normally expect them to do against a peer or inferior opponent. >> thank you. seven hours, 37 minutes. according to documents obtained, that is the gap in former president trump's phone logs between calls on january 6th. plus, the committee investigating that day just unanimously voted to recommend contempt charges for two former trump aids to doj. we will be live on capitol hill with the very latest on that. first, though, this is a life look at capitol hill where congressional leaders are holding a memorial service for alaska republican congressman don young.
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congressman young died earlier this month at 88 years old. he is lying in state in the capital statuary hall right now. a fellow alaskan paying tribute. that of course is lisa murkowski there. he was is longest serving republican lawmaker in congressional history. speaker pelosi called him, quote, an institution in the hallowed halls of congress. president biden will come to pay his respects to the congress this afternoon. this afternoon
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we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. a seven-hour and 37 minute gap. internal white house documents from the day of the january 6th insurrection don't have any record of president trump's phone calls for that stretch of time. that's according to "the washington post" that reports they have been turned over to the january 6th committee. trump was widely reported to have made calls during that time, so why weren't they noted in the official logs? this comes as the committee itself unanimously voted monday
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night to recommend the justice department charge two trump aids with contempt of congress because they haven't complied with subpoenas. so what has the committee and former president trump's team said about this gap in phone calls? >> well, look, greg, nothing from trump's team on this, but the committee, we just heard a few minutes ago from congress pete aguilar, one of the members on the january 6th committee, and he confirmed that 7 hour and 27 minute gap. he was asked about it by a reporter specifically and he said there were quite a few gaps. listen to how he put it. >> we need to know, as we have said consistently, what was happening during that time. and, so, that's what our lines of inquiry are about, in addition to the funders and how the events of january 5th and
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january 6th happened from a rally perspective why didn't anyone lift a finger to help us? >> so, craig, we know the committee already was looking into what the former president was doing in those critical hours. we also know there have long been concerns about what these national archive records have in them especially when you consider the picture there are boxes of in some classes documents found and recovered frommar-a-lago. we knew there were gaps in the information. plus, in addition, as you said, we know that trump was talking to lawmakers in those critical hours. the question now is where this goes next as the committee tries to pivot from the fact finding phase to the narrative building phase that should come with more public hearings. the open question at this point is we know who several republican lawmakers he was speaking to in those critical
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hours were. now it is whether or not the committee will ask them to testify and in some cases where they have already been asked i'm speaking of kevin mccarthy, for example, will they be subpoenaed. it is an open, loose thread that's been hanging out there for several weeks now but whether or not the committee will answer it is one of the questions they have to contend with as they look towards this narrative building phase with public hearings while they are still clearly gathering information there. >> let's pivot here for a moment because there is new reporting out about speaker pelosi and justice clarence thomas. what have we learned? >> we know justice clarence thomas is in the news right now because of his wife and conservative activist ginni thomas and texts she was sending corresponding with then chief of staff mark meadows. a lot of talk up here on capitol hill including from the january 6th committee. it is unclear from them whether they will move to speak with her. but this morning behind closed
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doors, democrats huddled as they always do on this day weekly talking about a multitude of issues including this one. a source in the room say speaker pelosi was fired up about this issue saying it is up to an individual justice to decide to excuse himself if his wife was participating in a coupe. this fits in on a wide range of issues. she did make the point that it is up to the justices to hold themselves accountable. i think widespread up here on the hill, though, craig, as the committee decides what to do on this information, others talking about ways to change the disclosures around supreme court justices, but that's definitely where this story goes next. >> thank you. stick with msnbc because congress jamie raskin will be on
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and that suit has now reached the supreme court. right now the high court is hearing arguments in the case. hearing those arguments as we speak. they have been underway for roughly an hour. with me now, megan staff an opinion write who are has written about this case and danny. you have written extensively about this case. help us understand what they have gone through with the damage from the burn pits. >> you know, they have really been through years of not only physical disabilities, which really range. i mean, you can talk to people who feel like they were affected by burn pits and that it gave them shortness of breath and milder respiratory systems but you also find people who have
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had rare cancers, who have autoimmune diseases attributable to the burn pits. so they have had a range of issues that left them more or less unable to function back in the u.s. when they returned. at the same time, they faced an incredible bureaucratic struggle to get their illnesses acknowledged, to get disability payments, to get, you know, any kind of treatment from the va. that has been a hard fought and ongoing struggle. so for many of them, it's been extremely discouraging. you can talk to a lot of burn pit victims who said they feel like they were sent off to fight the war and then when they got home just discarded. >> you contend that like so many other cases that reach the high court this really from a legal
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stand point has almost nothing to do with burn pits. >> this is a burn pit case that has almost nothing to do with burn pits. it has instead to do with state sovereignty. texas, the state, is not apparently denying that the plaintiff in this case was hurt. they're not denying he was hurt by bush pits. they're not denying that the federal law that allows him to sue texas doesn't apply. they're saying you can't sue us because we're a state and we're sovereign. in other words, you can't sue the king. this is a principle we brought over from england. they're claiming the 11th amendment bars it. the fascinating thing is the 11th amendment does not bar the suit but over the years the supreme court says well cases by citizens against their own state, we think that's what the framers meant. it doesn't literally say that. torez is arguing there are exceptions to state immunity, and this is one of them. the states when the framers put
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the constitution together gave up some of their powers. the states don't wage war, the federal government does. he says it overrides this state imcommunity and torez should be able to bring this suit. this is about whether he can sue. not whether or not he could win. >> so it's not a case about the merits of his argument. >> it really isn't. it is about whether he can get into the courthouse. >> what could this mean if the justices deem he can move forward? >> congress enacted this federal law in order to incentive employers from discriminating against people who served in the military. imagine the chilling effect it would have if you go to war and
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you get injured and you come back and say, i can't do my hold job and imagine if employers can say, you're out. we'll find somebody else. that would incredibly disincentivize people to go to war. theres no question that the statute allows torres and others like him to sue the state of texas or the state troopers or whoever is discriminating against him. they say, hey, due to this issue of state immunity, you can't sue us. and that federal law is unconstitutional. congress exceeded its powers. this is a very important supreme court house. >> megan, beyond the case itself, president biden has linked burn pit exposure in iraq to his son's brain cancer at 46 that he's been pushing for research and treatment. what needs to be done to help
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our vets? >> there is a lot. right now there is very early days and there is a lot of room for this to go and fizzle out like it's done so many times before. i think, you know, for veterans they're looking for care and disability payments from the va. they right now only -- the va has only put an official acknowledgment of three relatively, you know, not very serious respiratory conditions they link to burn pits. there is a whole -- there is more than 20 other conditions that people who study burn pits and fighting for those veterans say also need to be linked and also need to be given presumptive care and presumptive disability payments. you know, we're talking about a lot of money and we're talking about bills that need to get through congress before this would happen. so even with, yes, you're right
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president biden has been pushing this and which is what burn pit activists have been hoping for when i was elected because he said publically he thought his son's death was attributable to burn pits. but it is still very early. there is still a lot of va reform that needs to be done and it is not moving very quickly at this point. >> megan stack, thank you for your work. danny, thank you for your work as well. the humanitarian toll of the war in ukraine only grows by the hour, especially when you see moments like this captured by the associated press. a woman leaving for the ukrainian red cross in a damaged bus. her village attacked by russian forces and you can see her sharing a tearful good-bye with her son as a young grandson looks on. they are heading to odesa and
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moments ago president biden sat down with a meeting with the prime minister of sing boar. the president said they would be discussing a number of important issues, but he declined to answer repeated shouted questions from reporters about the ongoing situation in ukraine. president biden there sitting with the prime minister of singapore. we have our eyes on that meeting. this morning we are getting a clearer picture for how will ukrainian refugees settling in new countries. three new hmanitarian corridors set to open today. 2.3 million refugees followed by romania with 600,000. and hungary has over 350,000. more from a housing and mental health center that's helping
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refugees in warsaw poland. josh, as we showed there, poland has taken in the most refugees by a massive margin. what are you seeing on the ground where you are? >> reporter: well, greg, if you want to get a sense of how that a was a said to be demolished. after they decided to use it to house referugees, the first refugees showed up six hours later. they had no bed or supplies here. in the coming days, people started showing up, donating beds, clothing, diapers, supplies and they filled it with 400 ukrainian refugees. half of them are children. and something really interesting happened. i spoke with the director of this center who said originally they expected this would be a general population of ukrainian refugees but then started noticing that so many of the
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mothers were here with children who had special needs, autism, schizophrenia, as well as those experiencing severe trauma and ptsd from what they faced as they were fleeing war in ukraine. and they realize they were going to have to create special services above and beyond simply giving people beds and food. to make sure these people are properly taken care of. take a listen to what the coordinator told me about what they're facing. >> this is -- i don't know how to say. it's life. every -- in every country, there are people who have mental issues, who have problems. doesn't -- it's just like in poland, just like in u.s., just like in every place in the world. they are the kind of people and they need help. >> reporter: they don't refer to them as refugees here. they call them their guests.
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and they can stay for up to a year. they clean their own rooms, take care of themselves. there's a center within the building where women can line up to get id numbers so they can go and get a job or a bank account, all the things they would need to sustain life for really an indefinite period here in poland. they're also getting specialized psychological care, mental health services and they're being cared for, not only by polish government workers and volunteers but also by psychologists and others, who themselves are refugees from ukraine, russia and belarus. >> i love that. they don't use the term, refugee. they call them their guests. thank you for that. had emmett till not been lynched, he would be turning 81 years old this year. a reminder our history not as far in the past as we think sometimes.
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♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. this afternoon, president biden will sign a law nearly 70 years in the making. the emmett till anti-lynching bill is named after the young black teenager who was killed in
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mississippi back in 1955. tlrs new the new law will make lynching a punishable hate crime up to 30 years in prison. and nbc talked to emmett till's cousin, one of the last people he was with before he was kidnapped and murdered. there have been more than 200 attempts to pass this law. finally it gets done. what kind of impact is this going to have on emmett till's legacy? >> for decades emmett till's family has had to carry the cumbersome burden of his kidnapping and murder. and even though till's death sparked a modern civil rights era and he's become a belv figure in our community, they a had to carry a this without any real justice. as you mentioned 70 years later, may offer a bit of closure. i had a chance to speak with the
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reverend wheeler parker, a cousin of emmett till and was actually there the night he was kidnapped and he had this to say. s >> even though you were young then, do you remember a moment when you realized this was bigger than just the murder of your cousin? that this came to be so much bigger, like, fuel the movement? >> i never talked to emmet's mother about that. never talked to my grandfather. and down south, it's like hush, hush. and i think some people feel bad about my grandfather. somebody intrusts their child with you. you lose a child, a life, that's a big thing. even now, if people bring it to school, everybody try and get us because it's not a pleasant story. like you say, the racial theory theme, i mean, you got a lot of work to do.
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>> craig, in some way, it feels with this legislation, having emmett till's name on it, that it may allow the family to be heard and america, in some small measure, make amends to what happened to emmett till and so many other people in that time span. >> that is a perspective i had not considered before. why did it take so long to get a bill like this passed and signed? >> reporter: well, certainly, i think it's because the anti-lynching legislation became a partisan lightening rod, especially during the civil rights era and all the years after. to sign the bill would admit america is deeply flawed and violent in specific ways, in particular the way black people have routinely had violence heepd upon them with no kind of federal legislative recourse. i think now the soil is ripe, the administration is the right time and the right place to
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finally push this through. again, 200 attempts for antilynching, just to make it a federal law that criminalizes lynching says a lot about where we've been and perhaps where we are. >> and where we need go. thanks assall a ways, my friend. and thank you also. "andrea mitchell reports" starts next. ♪ good day, this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as a top russian official claims his country is ready to drastically reduce their military presence outside kyiv. this as ukrainian negotiators meeting with russian officials propose a security and ceasefire plan. but insist they will not give up an inch of theiratory territory. they say russia is still attacking residential areas as thousands of civilians try to flee the violence. in a speech

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