morning, everybody. 9:00. the words of the deputyinic raa show. after scaling back forces around kyiv. we bring you that with our correspondent staat ramsey. she'll be speaking about the time he and his team came under attack reporting of the war.

and the cricket legend of shane in melbourne. it's wednesday, 30th of march. repositioning, not withdrawal as the pictures emerge of the besieged city of mariupol. the government reacts to russia's latest troop movements. >> we judge the russian military machine by its actions, and not just its words, not just its skepticism. that it will regroup and attack again. the worst nhs scandal in history. a major report will reveal the true scale where hundreds of babies died or left brain damaged. >> nobody should have to leave the hospital without their baby. knowing it was avoidable. the pain is indescribable. >> the vast majority are totally safe. and indeed, they're getting safer. but i think today's report is going to be a very sobering

read. more partygate pressure. the prime minister is set to face scrutiny after announced 20 downing street lockdown fines will be issued. and saying he should resign. >> prime minister is a liar, because he told the house of commons repeatedly that there were no parties and no wrongdoing. remembering the star of sport and showbiz, we'll come together in melbourne to play tribute to cricket legend stewart warne. >> a really good farewell. and players face racial abuse as muhammad salid's miss on the pent cup. what's wrong with me?

>> channel 4 mini series leaving the tv with 11 eliminations. also coming wherever you're watching around the world we'll peek to our correspondent stuart ramsey, since his team came under fire close to kyiv. as well as uk's ambassador as well. he'll be with us. >> had no authority, jacki weaver, no authority at all. >> she's kicked him out. >> no. >> she's kicked him out. >> and an investigation backed him out. she didn't have any authority. so what does she think about it now. that will be coming out. i want to bring you the latest as promised on the shane warne memorial. it's being held at the msg and

cricket and cg. forgive me. it's just beginning now. many, many thousands of fans gathered, too. >> -- came up to me, rubs my head and says geez, little man. ten minutes later, warne came back down and asked me how would you like to spend the rest of the day with the team. of course, i said yes. that was an experience that i'll never forget. but that wasn't the best part, for the next two years, warne would write me letters, for nothing other than to see how i'm doing. this want was an outright rock star. for him to do that just goes to show no matter who you are, no matter what you've achieved in your life, it's important to always stay humble and care for everyone. this is a life lesson that i've carried ever since that moment.

so, i just want to say thank you to warne. in conclusion i'd like to say -- which means you're always welcome around your people. i wish to welcome you all from the tops of the trees to the roots of the ground. i truly believe if you look after this country, it will look after us. thank you, rest easy. hello and welcome, everybody to the marty melbourne cricket to this memorial for shane warne. this is the field of dreams, warne's back yard. right here, david bloom pretty much same position, good morning, vinnie, good to have you here tonight. over there was the old southern stand where shane came with his father and brother would open their hat that alan border would

beat them. sadly, they knocked them over. and the heroes of world cricket would become the best friends in life, some of the great heroes just becoming wonderful people in his life. as we get a bit closer here, we turn up, 24 laters after he sat in that southern stand, the great southern stand was in rely and to take his 700th test wicket. a moment we will never forgot in world and australia history. was there anybody ever bigger in cricket. there may have been one, with us is donald's granddaughter. could you please stand, ladies and gentlemen, as we sing the national anthem and welcome britta.

-- greta bradman. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪

>> thank you, greta. greta bradman. welcome, everybody. as this is the state memorial, i'd like to welcome our official party, brigadier representing his excellency general of the commonwealth of australia and mrs. victoria match. and representing her excellency, ac governor of victoria. the honorable -- scott morrison, prime minister of australian. her honor, vicky o'halloran and mr. craig o'halloran.

distinguished guests, welcome. ladies and gentlemen, let's be honest about it the boy from black rock who dreamed of being a footballer on this ground adopted the number of his hero and even named in the record as trevor warne in his one and only reserve appearance inadvertent nod. amusing teammates, flamboyant footballers, heroes of a generation. does that sound familiar, ladies and gentlemen. when he was giving his marching orders from the saints, only shane warne could have thought that his world was just beginning and not ending in sport. let's join his fellow international superstar eric banner and relive the rise to glory.

♪♪ ♪ oh oh i'm on fire ♪♪ >> cricket found me. and so began his love aware with a fashion that had no boundaries that would turn shane warne into the greatest of all time. like only the legendary don bradman had before him. part musician, full-time showman, he mesmerized fans. in back yards, they wanted to be just like him. warne dreamed of one day, some day, hearing the mighty roar of the mgc crowd. with an oval shaped aussie rules football. ♪♪ >> i just loved it. nothing else mattered.

>> i'm going to play. >> it's hard to believe now given his extraordinary athletic skills, a natural in cricket, tennis and golf that warne just couldn't crack it. ♪ can't get satisfaction ♪♪ >> unfortunately, i wasn't good enough and that was a tough lesson to learn your dream was shattered. luckily, i had a natural ability to spin the ball a long way. ♪♪ ♪ start me up ♪♪ >> always a competitor, shane warne had to be the very best. he had to live his game by his own admission there were other sort of distractions to his fun loving man. >> now, winning was in warne's very dna, but he knew he needed that x factor. that came in the name of terry

jenner. >> he said enough is enough. jenner, an accountant would turn this wild boy into that. >> i loved cricket. i never thought i was good enough to play for australia. he said, i like what i've got, we can work with this. we worked and worked hours and hours. >> it's not so much how one ends, it's how it arrives. >> i realized how i wanted to play. >> something of a hush goes around the ground. and i take a step and i ball. and i let go of the ball. >> the most beautiful delivery. >> that changed my life, that

ball. and i felt bloody pretty good. ♪♪ >> he got it! it's going wide. ♪♪ ♪ come up for the rising come up for the rising la la ♪♪ ♪♪ >> yes! >> shane warne, a great moment in his career. >> his loving father. please welcome keith warne. >> we'll have more on that this

hour. we do want to bring in a lawyer and danish cricketer who has previously played for england and denmark. hi. thank you for joining us. and an amateur cricketer since he was in school. he said he got into cricket because of shane warne, what does he mean to you, shane warne? >> well, there's the shane warne that i grew up watching on tv, everybody remembers the balls and all the brilliant things he did which we watched on tv. the first contact with him, the folk lore was me joining kent. and it was one of those great battles that will have begun, in folk lore, these two giants battling it out.

when i joined that was one of the first stories i was told about shane. so the myth still continued when i started professional cricket. >> and did i hear you saying that he scored his first 100 against you? >> yeah, unfortunately, he did. that was a hugh year for english cricket. that was in 2005. shane warner was at hampshire. in that game, i remember balling at shane warne, i was balling at his head because he was hitting us everywhere. and my captain took me off because i wasn't getting him out. when he took me out, i remember shane warne giving me this dirty

look, like why is he taking you off? i mean, 2005 is probably english cricket, because it was that epic series which was the greatest series in history, probably. that series wouldn't have happened without shane warne because shane warne endorsed kevin petersen. and kevin petersen scored that hundred with the ashers. even us winning the ashers had something to do with shane warne. >> there's about 50,000 tickets available for fans at the melbourne cricket ground, melbourne memorial service under way at the moment. massive stars including chris martin is going to be performing. we also believe we're going to be hearing from ed sheeran. what was it about him? what was the appeal? why was she such a man of the people? >> well, i can tell you, for example, that game, i stopped

balling and he was giving my captain crap for not balling me. i was on the other side and i was trying to get him out. that appeal is always reasonable. and also in that game, he scored a hundred, and he celebrated like he won the world cup. it spent so much to him. then it started raining and we were all playing poker. so many facets, so human, so funny. we're just sitting there playing poker. and he's not talking about that hundred, he just is trying to win a poker match. so real authenticity. that sets him apart. >> thank you for sharing the memories. we do appreciate it. thank you. we are covering the memorial service on the program today. live before you, that's something that shane warne's father is talk about now. >> his one and only hat trick in

1994, the second wicket in 2006. two of his all-time favorites as i'm sure you're familiar with tonight, what shane achieved during his cricket career was amazing. for his mother and i it was the things that shined dear that we will forever hold up as his finest achievements. he was a father. he loved and adored his children. he's a loving and caring son and brother. he was a sports hero who happily handed out autographs and stood for photos sometimes for hours on end. it was that charismatic man who went prince and the pauper. what the world didn't know is

shane helped kids. especially underprivileged kids. kids loved him and he loved kids. this is never more evident than when he visited king lake in victoria and devastated by -- in 2009. shane appreciated how horrific the situation was. was hoping his visits would help lift the community spirit. on one of many occasions, he and sorries took a load of sports equipment to the region and spent the day playing all sorts of sports with the children and the families brightening up their lives just a little bit in those dark days. >> that's keith, the father of shane warne who suddenly died earlier this month at the age of just 55. yep, a wicket of the century, the ball of the

century. mike gaston probably has a different view that was june in 1993. 50,000 people have gathered at melbourne cricket ground in order to pay their respects to shane warne. if you'd like to watch more of that service, then, of course, you can. the qr code there on the left-hand side of your screen. you just need to hold up your phone and take a picture of that qr code and it will take you to our online service where you can continue to watch events there. we're just going to move away for a short while because we do want to tell you what's going to happen in 45 minutes' time in the true scale of failings at the nhs hospital where hundreds of babies died or left brain damaged. that's just after 10:00. a major review of failings in child care at shrewsbury.

>> reporter: haley's son jack would be 7 now but he only lived 11 hours. >> when i stroked his hand it feels like i'm still holding his hand. >> reporter: he died due to fatal errors. >> angry more than anything, if i had a cesarean, he would be playing on this park today. that's what gets you so angry and upset. >> reporter: derrick was one of hundreds of babies who died or left brain damaged. an independent report will reveal the full scale of the scandal after parents fought for the truth. for many year, they've been demanding to know why so many babies died. what was going on inside these hospitals. how was it allowed to happen.

the report has examined serious failings over two decades at this nhr trust. >> there's always going to be a sphere-shaped hole in my heart, in our lives, and i can't change that. it's painful. >> reporter: midwives didn't listen to staff until it was too late. >> the cause of their death was lack of oxygen. that wouldn't have happened if they had come to me and saved my life. >> reporter: she's determined it must never happen again. >> nobody should have to leave the hospital without their baby. knowing it was avoidable. the pain is indescribable. >> reporter: the hospital trust say they take full responsibility, but change will come too late. for so many families. becky johnson, sky news, telford. >> we'll hear more about that from 10:00 this morning on sky

news. and i also just tell you about what's happening in football, egypt's football situation says its players were racially abused and the team bus was attacked as they lost out in a place to the world cup at senegal. this is what happened. with muhammad sala in the penalty draw. sala's teammates scored the winning kick to send the west african nation to its third world cup. on a happy note, nominations for this year's tv bafta awards have just been announced. >> oh -- make him do something. i don't want to die. >> channel 4 miniseries, it's about a group of friends growing up in the shadow of hiv and aids, 11 nominations, sky

original series "landscapers" has been nominated in seven categories. and also nominated for afghanistan, the end game. and we'll hear who has won those baftas this year on the 8th of may. now, remember this viral moment just before the pandemic. or just during the pandemic, actually. >> i have no authority here, jacki weaver, no authority at all. >> she's just kicked him out. >> it's -- >> no, she's kicked him out. >> don't -- >> she's kicked him out. >> this is a meeting called by two counselors who -- >> illegal -- >> may not elect a vice chairman. >> no they can't, i take charge.

read the -- >> okay. jackie is with us now. jackie, this investigation has cost 80,000 pounds or thereabouts. and it's found that you didn't have the authority, how are you feeling about that? >> good morning, kay. a couple of things, the 85,000 into an investigation into that meeting. the 85,000 covers the investigation into all sorts of complaints about three counselors prior to meeting culminating in meeting. so, i don't kind of entirely feel responsible for causing 85,000 pounds worth of taxpayers' money to be spent in a way better to have been used. the other thing is, i don't think i claimed to have authority at that meeting. i think my response was i was less -- in the meeting. i never actually claimed to have

any authority over the meeting. >> okay. but you did sort of kick people out because you wanted them out. you did use a bit of authority, didn't you? >> yes and no. i didn't actually remove them from the meeting, i put them in the waiting room. and a little bit later, the main counselors having let the chairman formally with a resolution. again, i didn't directly kick them out of the meeting. and the report actually says rather than i have no authority, the actions were without any formal footing. and i totally accept that. because at the time there were formal standing on this. on the real goings around how those virtual meetings were conducted. they were still very new to us. >> well, fascinating stuff, jackie. we just wanted to get your clarification on that. we'll have to leave it there. we are going to have to jump in, because we're going to be

hearing from elton john. i'm sure you won't mind in those circumstances. thank you. here's elton john at the shane warne memorial. ♪♪ ♪♪

♪ but these cuts i have they need love to help them heal ♪ ♪ don't let the sun go down on me ♪ don't let the sun ♪ oh although i search myself it's always someone else i see ♪ ♪ i just allow a fragment of your life to wander free ♪ cause losing everything ♪ is like the sun going down on me ♪♪ ♪ don't let the sun go down on

me although i search myself it's always someone else i see ♪ ♪ i just allow a segment of your life to wander free wander free ♪ ♪ but losing everything is like the sun going down on me ♪ ♪♪ [ cheers and applause ]

>> an amazing performance in the united states from sir elton john, great cricket lover and supporter of so many people over the years. thank you so much, sir elton john. flags are flying high, the flag of the east junior club where it all started, the cricket club, the marty melbourne and the teams, his beloved london spirit. and of course, australia where he became a legend of the game. >> there's no doubt in my mind that shane warne is the best spinner of his age that i've ever seen.

he's the best thing that's happened to the hammer of cricket for many, many years. >> i wanted to make every single ball an event. >> brilliant, shane warner! >> when i was on the field, i was in charge. >> he's had the greatest influence on the game of cricket ever. shane warne will never be replaced. >> he has that quality that the great athletes have like tiger woods and muhammad ali. >> he was box office. >> the memorial continuing here with the qr code we showed you earlier, if you scan that, it will take you to our online service for the continuation of that memorial for shane warner. 50,000 people have gathered at the melbourne cricket ground to pay tribute to shane warner.

now, some of you may have already seen the footage of the team caught under fire. my goodness, they narrowly escaped russian soldiers and managed to come back home safely, back to their families. here's how events unfolded. [ bleep ]. >> go. >> reporter: the five of us have made it out of the car down the embankment. we just can't believe we're alive. >> okay, guys. >> i think i'm hit. >> yeah. >> wait, wait. >> go beyond that wall. >> go, go. >> reporter: we run into a warehouse unit looking for cover. >> go.

>> i'm pleased and relieved to say that my colleague of more than 30 years is here. there was a time when i thought it wasn't going to happen. >> yeah. >> tell us what happened. >> there had been a curfew in place in kyiv for two days previously because the local authorities security were actually looking for about is tour saboteurs who they said infiltrated kyiv to carry out attacks on civilians. we'd been in the city, but the war was gaining pace, we wanted to go to a town of bucha which is really outside -- it's really a suburb of kyiv. and it was getting late and we basically called it a day and said we can't get there. the battle space was changed. helicopters, gunships and

russians were firing kilometers from where we were, and we basically decided to call it a day. the routes that we used to try to get there were now closed. we stopped at a police checkpoint and asked what the best direction was back to the center of the city. and they pointed us down this road, probably no more than 400 or 500 meters away there was a bang on the car. i think the front left wheel had blown and we weren't quite certain what it was. came to a stop. and then the firing started from what was an ambush position both in front of the car and on the left-hand side of the car. and what -- you know, one of the things that's interesting about this case is these incidents happen a lot. it's that it's very rare that the camera is rolling the whole time. and richie our cameraman made that decision to keep rolling. i was talking to him yesterday,

he said it was eerily quiet, he and i were worried about what was happened. he kept rolling. what we found later and certain at at the time is that civilian cars were being targeted by unknown gunmen. and a number of families were killed in cold blood. we were driving in unmarked family, we could have just been a family. there's no way you could have possibly seen accurately who was in that car. and it was fired upon. we, i think, particularly myself, domenic, our producer and richey were convinced it was a mistake that it was a ukrainian -- >> a shot at you. >> as journalists. if anything, the firing intensified after that. really, the hardest thing was to try to get out of the car. it's standard procedure. it's called debussing.

we knew we had to debus. two of the team had already got out. the three of us were left. it was a matter of choosing your moment when to get out. you talk about choosing a moment. this is all going so fast. there's so much firing it really is luck if you get out. in our words, it is miraculous. it's that an ambush scenario like this, five people got out of that car, richie -- >> richey was hiding behind the engine block. >> richie got himself into the well of the passenger seat and basically the engine block was saving him. i was watching -- you can see the camera angle, you can actually see the bullets where his camera is pointing down because he can't lift his head. i'm actually in the back seat in this position which is where i was eventually shot. and i'm watching the wind screen. and then the driving wheel and the panel of the car just

completely disintegrate and fall off. it was unbelievable. at that point, i said i know i am going to die. >> you thought? >> oh, 100%. i wonder thinking i wonder how much it's going to hurt. because the intensity was such i just didn't think i would be getting out. then i got hit. i'll have to describe what it's like. the best description that is put to me, it's absolutely true. it's like being hit with a hammer with sparklers on it, fireworks sparklers. it's -- it's a flash burn, and it's actually flesh. and you're hit with a hammer at the same time but wasn't that bad. incredibly, i remember putting my hhelmet, it had been on my lap. i realized there was debris and phones, i went back and picked up my phone, thought i got to

have my phone. got out the car -- >> when you say got out of the car, how did you get out when you're being shot at? >> yeah. and shot. weirdly, it's actually on one of the pieces, you can hear richie shout, what are you doing? apparently i had no recollection, i got out of the car and stood up and sort of walked to the embankment. saw the guys, 40 feet down i suppose. took a couple of steps and then dived. i'm pretty certain i knocked myself out. but i can't guarantee it. the next thing i remember is seeing richie before me. i had left him. and i remember guys shouting at me and he didn't want to reply. he felt that the firing gone so long, they would assume he'd been hit or dead. and he waited for it to go quiet. as soon as he thought i'm a goner, he then got out and ran.

but it was only a couple of days later when we were reviewing the pictures as he's running there was a hail of bullets. he's extremely lucky. bear in mind, richie had been hit twice in the back it's just his armor was on and saved him. it was quite high up, it would have gone straight into his lungs. so he was lucky. >> and then this happened -- >> we got ourselves into a garage and we're waiting, there's three guys working here, they said we could stay, there's a lot of firing. we don't know why. appears to be -- the shooting. a big fight, might even be on the front line. >> and we talked in the days afterwards, didn't we, and you said, you didn't think that you were out of danger. you thought they were going to

come and get new that warehouse. >> i think in various scripts, like after being in the initial terrible bombing, it doesn't actually start getting any better. we're very grateful to these three men who let us into they're warehouse. i mean, we were degrading quite quickly there. obviously, i was bleeding, not terribly. no water. and you can see, i look absolutely terrible. i've got terrible shock there. probably a concussion. and then this fighting started. now, we to this day have no idea what was going on. that was in and out. so we sort of think that the russian team were coming towards us, to our position, perhaps to finish us. and another ukrainian unit having heard all of the firing at our car in the first place had come down the road, perhaps just to see what was happening and engaged with them. i mean that went on a long time.

and with all of us being in there lasted hours and the shooting was a long time as well. that was a proper engagement. to be fair, for all of us, that was terrifying. we were having communications with sky, of course, and our super fixer who wasn't with us. and he was ringing everyone we knew. we were beginning to get communications, always, thank goodness, i have my phone. i went and got it. we were talking to police, and they said basically we will come, but we won't get you until the morning. so, we sort of prepared ourselves to bed down, we went into a small room within this warehouse. and we're prepared to sort of stay there for the night. but it was -- it was one of those ones that we were very concerned that, you know, we didn't wake up in the morning and not be surrounded. but we understood it was dark

outside by this stage. it was dangerous driving around. it would be danger us for the police. >> and one of the reasons you wanted to tell the story is because all of the suffering that people of ukraine are going through. and i particularly, particularly remember the 21-year-old soldier that was on the bridge. what have you found? what have you found there? >> yeah, he was an amazing guy. we were filming a variety of elements, but we went up to actually get a nice picture from some of the bridges that are important in kyiv, the significance being if the russians can across the bridges, they arrive in town. the east and west are essentially controlled by the bridges. that's why we'd gone there. and this boy was guarding the bridge on his own. he's quite friendly. he said you can stay and film, he spoke very good english. we were just chatting, he explained, i think 20 bullets he'd ever shot in his life. >> let's listen to it. >> yes.

>> have from my view, they're going move in on kyiv. yes, it's really scary. i called to my parents, they're really scared. there's russians, you know, enemies. there's guns, heavy vehicles. i hope that they will -- >> 21 years old. younger than both our sons. very brave. >> very brave. and interesting, his story went absolutely viral. it was a quick interview. i think one of the social media said 31 million views of his comments. and he sums up people. he was -- he's not a soldier, clearly, he's not a soldier, but

he's just doing the right thing. and he's talked about his parents being surrounded by russians. the reason we were doing the story. and the reason we wanted to put the story of us being attacked this is what's happening towards people. and there are other incidents. and we heard of one yesterday, almost identical, family in a car, all dead. and of course, we've got -- there are many other elements of the war going on which isn't people being shot in small numbers but large numbers but obviously in places like mariupol being bombed. >> you and alex crawford and your teams always put yourself in danger, so viewers around the world can find out what's happening. and particularly a story that stands out to me is when you were on the roof in afghanistan in kabul. i'm sure you remember exactly what i'm talking about. let's remind our viewers what

happened. >> i hear a lot of shouting coming down the road behind me. in fact, it is a -- i think it's a procession of the taliban. yes, it is. it's a white flag. and they're coming down the street just next to us. they're led by a led flag. and they're chanting as they go down. >> cool as a cucumber. >> i really wasn't. >> what were you thinking? >> well, we knew they were coming, getting closer and closer to the day. we had all of these intelligence briefings, the foreign governments, the united states, britain in kabul that would hold for weeks, it was quite clear about a thursday it was going to go. then i think it was a saturday morning. i think that was a saturday, it's that we know that we were completely surrounded.

it was a case of what's it going to be like? what will happen when they come in? and actually, it was very different to what we expected. and they actually were quite -- the taliban were very controlled in the first early days. but, you know, i was glad i was actually on air, to be honest. because waiting or just sitting in the hotel was actually terrifying. it was better to be up and running and working. >> and you stayed and carried on with our coverage. to that end, sky has been nominated for bafta today. i'm sure you heard of that. the end game. we've got an image of when you were on the ground talking to other people. >> this is another group, women and children. you see this all the time. women and children just in huge, huge numbers. yes. yes, it's getting better. but, you know, it feels more

like a desperate evacuation now than any given point. you can just feel the desperation it's quite remarkable. i think everybody knows it's only days, days until the flights stop. >> a lot of people i'm sure you're bombarded covering events like this, your bravery, are you aware you're being brave at the time? >> no not at all. not at all. in fact, i'm really not a very brave person. >> oh, come on. >> no, seriously. we do this, i've been asked a lot, why do you do it? because, actually, i believe, and i don't want to be too high

florida luting about this. and we want to have, we want to do this job, the people who do it feel exactly the same, you have to bear witness. now, you get yourself in position so you can do that job. inevitably, though, they are often quite dangerous and you try to -- >> -- mitigate. >> -- mitigate that. and try to make sure the risk is as small as possible but there's inevitably going to be some risk. it's interesting with avenue afghanistan, i was asked did you ever think of leaving -- no, i was there to see them. what was the point in me leaving? i shouldn't have gone. we were leaving, for example, in ukraine, the battlefield, to go back to the hotel because it was too dangerous. as you see, we hadn't gone looking for trouble, it came to

you. it came to us. i think that's what happens. >> you've been with sky 30 years today. >> apparently it's 30 years today which obviously is a life sentence or longer. >> happy anniversary. maybe that's not the quite right phraseology to use. but are there any particular incidents that stand out to you? >> there's a number. a lot of them. great interviews in people i've met and stories where we've helped people. a few nightmare ones. >> i think about mosul in particular. >> one terrible one in mosul. again, we weren't looking for trouble and got ourselves into trouble. >> this is what happens. >> are you okay? >> yeah, i'm okay. >> are you okay? hey? we should go. >> are you okay?

>> yeah. it just came in and landed in between us. you can see the whole place is covered in smoke. >> this is the bomb from islamic state's own drone pictures released on social media. >> oh, my -- >> oh my! >> it is chaotic, everyone is dazed, but we are being attacked still. through the smoke, they've come looking for him. >> at the time, i didn't think you could have gotten any closer than that. >> no. i must admit, i think, i would have said that was the worst it was ever going to be, and this was easily followed. a classic example of where an

initial explosion, a huge, huge explosion that it was, it killed dozens and dozens of people we were very lucky. i mean, what happened afterwards was actually even worse, we were running around rubble being shot at for what felt like hours. it was certainly a long time. eventually, we were able to escape. you would have thought that the blasts would have been the end of it. but it really, really wasn't. yeah, we had to eventually get out. and the missiles flying over us, all the time, it's actually as well. i think actually, this was actually going on the way in, i believe. this is us trying to get to the rubble. a lot of fighting going on. and then the helicopters put up by the iraqi forces to protect them. but the problem with that is they have to shoot everything. so, basically, their own soldiers take cover as best they can but anyone moving around gets shot.so really dangerous.

>> and the threat again comes from lots of different avenues. i'm thinking about what happened when you went to italy, mutty award winning coverage for that. remind our viewers what happened there. >> they're fighting a war here and they are losing. the sheer numbers of people succumbing to the coronavirus is overwhelming every hospital in northern italy. the staff are working flat out trying to keep these people from deteriorating further. they're trying to stop them from dying. this isn't an intensive care unit. it's an emergency ward. the icu is full. people have only just arrived here. and they're in terrible shape. this is an absolute constant, this killer pandemic is virtually out of control. the patients are literally gasping for air. >> and the spectra of covid was

paralyzing the country, the world at that time, and yet, you went in, went towards danger. what's in your brain? what makes you do that? >> we had known what we'd seen an icu, what was an emergency ward, we'd not seen it and there were a lot of skeptics. and it took an awful lot of work to get us in. an awful lot of people wouldn't have died -- i talked to our bosses in the hours leading up. i talked to head of news the other day about it, john riley who said he came very near to saying i'm not letting you go in. we pretty much convinced him it was the right thing. we had been trained. we did have the right gear. we didn't know much about the virus, let's be honest, at that stage, nobody knew anything. the first proper pandemic in 100 years the first there's been been a television pandemic. the first time that anyone has

seen it. and the stories change and hard to believe, really in two years. and here we are, i mean, sky news has a lot of controls because of our work practices. but outside, you'd never know there had been a virus. of course, there really is one still and it's very dangerous still. >> but with russia invading ukraine. which is today. and we are hearing that the russians are moving away from kyiv. and the big question is should the world believe russia when he says -- when he says that's what he's going to do. i did put that to the deputy prime minister earlier on. this is what he had to say. >> we judge the russian military machine by its actions, not just its words, skepticism, that it will regroup to attack again, rather than seriously engage in diplomacy or anything of that nature. and of course, the door to diplomacy will always be left ajar. but i don't think you can trust what it coming out of the mouth of putin's war machine. >> and to that end, we have

taken the opportunity to bring in the ukrainian ambassador to the uk. mr. ambassador, thank you for taking the time to join us again. i know you did want to say a couple words to stuart. >> we had a chance just to chat a couple minutes before the interview started. and i talked to him i'm very proud to actually be able to meet with him and to tell you that you have been very brave and crazy and good sense people to do the job. thank you for coming to do this. i just know how important to all of these people, we know this young soldier to know their story is heard. >> well, we really appreciate it. and you know, it's been an amazing event for us to be in ukraine to meet the people. amazing stories of people. but it has gone on for years, i was there in 2014. so, it's not a new story. but incredible resilience of the people. particularly throughout the country it's been remarkable to

report on it. >> the part you told me about, that's a usual car you were driving, people could be in there, families targeted, that's something we wanted people to hear, to understand. actually this is dangerous just for civilians. i've asked you about the protective gear you had. and they stuck a couple of bullets in your people. that's why we're begging for military staff, firefighters, first responders, journalists just like you to actually save lives. >> yeah, i'm sure britain will be sending -- >> as stuart was saying, we've seen colleagues die in almost exact same circumstances. pierre you were talking about from fox. >> that's right. i mean, the point is a journalists talking about themselves is rather embarrassing but a large number have died. at a rate unusual in most wars which we cover a lot of.

obviously it pales in significance with the civilian population. but, yeah, these incidents that we've talked about which effectively are with people actually being targeted. i mean, it is a disgrace. clearly, these people are not a threat to anyone. pretty much anyone with a weapon would know they're not a threat. and that is a big problem. and it's not getting any easier. >> do you believe russia when it says that it is moving away from kyiv and that the peace talks don't seem to be working? >> i don't trust the russians at all. not me personally. i just think they're maneuvering. as we've seen there, they didn't quite have any, but ukrainian forces especially around kyiv. i guess they will regroup and come again and again and again. that's what they've been doing. not just this war. they've been doing it for centuries. >> what took you on the suggestion that the ukrainian

delegation were poisoned when they were taking part in peace talks? >> i don't wish anybody bad if they feel it's this way, frankly speaking i guess if the russians wanted them to be poisoned to death they would be dead now. you remember how people here, was poisoned and so many people suffered around this so, i believe it will come, sooner or later, russians will do something like that. and people asking me, for example, if i'm secure here, do i have protection at the embassy. we can't protect anywhere around the world, with rugt russians w scaled operation against ukraine, and against the whole world. >> what do you have to say for the people of ukraine who suffer five weeks now? >> just last thursday, how people are surviving, this month, we have this war for eight years but it was in somewhere eastern ukraine, somewhere far from cities like

kyiv. people are having a normal life. now the whole hell broke out and anybody see it. streaming across the borders. people are leaving, desert and still fighting. some of the journalists like you are now fighting. some of them have been integrated with anti-tank weapons. and inevitably, they will start talking to you. not many people believed i was saying it's not a walk in the park. people are yeah, yeah, that's actually what's happening. we can actually win this war. >> let's see what happens in the coming weeks, mr. ambassador, thank you for taking the time to join us on the program. >> thank you. thank you. and don't do it again. >> and the 30th anniversary, as i said, i don't know what's going to happen next, i'm not going to put you on the spot and ask you on the tele. let's see, thank you for recounting what happened. i know you wanted to make the point it's not about you, it's

not about the crew. it's about telling the story of people of ukraine and the struggles they are facing day after day after day. >> every story we do they're always about people, not us. >> thank you, gentlemen. much appreciated. thank you. coming up in just a few moments' time, we've got all of today's coverage here on sky news, not the least of what's happening in ukraine. progress reported in peace talks between ukraine and russia. but with continued russian shelling and a history that shows that vladimir putin cannot be trusted, moscow's pledge to scale back its military activity is met with major skepticism. we'll have the latest from the biden white house and from the battlefield in ukraine. plus, the morning's other big headlines. questions of whether donald trump used burner phones to hide conversations he had while the capitol was under attack. a "russia if you're listening" moment part two. and chris rock set to take the stage for the first time

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