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on that very good note, i wish you at home, a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us. i'll see with and tomorrow. hello everybody, a very good morning to you. at 7:00. not often you hear from a spy boss, but this morning, we have got an interview -- we speak to the international trade secretary, anne-marie trevelyan in just a few moments time to get her take. and the former chief of defense tap. as the cost of living crisis worsens, we'll speak to chancellor, rachel reeves. it's thursday, the last day of march. the massive misjudgment british
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by a boss of -- plus, his views on how russian soldiers are refusing to carry out orders. >> it increasingly looks like putin has massively misjudged the situation. >> i'm live from western ukraine's president zelenskyy says his forces are preparing for a new russian attacks in the east, as moscow bolsters its forces in the donbas region. >> cost of living crisis with bills on the rise and the energy -- we speak to a pensioner and a widow were in dire straits. >> wow. >> still processing it. chris rock speaks out about that slap as the academy feels they are -- as will smith to leave and he said no. >> the last day of free universal -- in england. a warning from a disability
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charity. the government is showing a disregard for the most vulnerable. >> as the parole board recommends the mother of baby -- is set free. we'll ask the former chair of offset of decisions like this keep the public safe. also coming up on the program, wherever you are watching us around the world, -- >> ♪ ♪ ♪ >> sending my. love ed sheeran makes a tribute to the wanted star tom parker, who's died from a brain tumor, at the age of just 33. here's a question for you for thursday morning. do you have any idea what that plant is? well, we'll be speaking to the first westerner to get a glimpse of this rare flower in the philippines and about his mammoth track to get there.
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a very good morning to you. we start with an intervention from a spy boss on president putin and his intentions of the ukraine. uk stops by chief, jeremy fleming, who is the -- has given a rare speech saying the russian leader has made a massive misjudgment on the capabilities of his own military might. he also claims that putin soldiers are defying orders and accidentally shooting down their own aircrafts. the kremlin is turning to private mercenaries to help them in the war. -- going into bolster numbers but said, they're likely to be used as cannon fodder to try and limit russian offsets. the ukrainian president says his troops are preparing for the russians to launch large assaults in the east of the country in the donbas region. >> it increasingly looks like putin has massively misjudged the situation. it's clear he's misjudged the
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resistance of the ukrainian people. he underestimated the strength of the coalition, his actions will galvanize. he underplayed the economic consequences of the sanctions regime, and he overestimated the abilities of his military to secure a rapid victory. we've seen russian soldiers short of weapons and moral, refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidentally shooting their own aircraft down. even though we believe putin's advisers are afraid to tell him the truth, what's going on and the extent of these misjudgements must be crystal clear to the regime. >> we'll be chatting to him in just a second, but first, let's bring in dominic -- international affairs editor, he's in the field for us this
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morning. how should we interpret this, dominic. ? but >> morning k. in some ways it's revealing what is predictable. he saying the -- doing would expect him to do, disrupting ukrainian you televisions and military in government systems, but also saying that could spill over into neighboring countries. would he saying about putin is revealing. for months, and in the run up to the invasion, and in the weeks since the invasion began, we have been trying to second guess work -- was going on putin's mind and western policy makers have been as well. fleming's in this unique position, he has all this information that gchq is feeding him through so valence monitoring, that gives us a good picture of what is happening with putin. when he's saying is putin has been badly advised, he's
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massively misjudged the situation in ukraine, in terms of what is troops can expect, but also in terms of the way sanctions could respond. he saying even russians or shouldn't on their own planes. the concern is that this is an isolated, ill-advised russian leader, who's next actions are unpredictable, and therefore quite volatile. >> thanks very much, dominic. let's bring in tom from china. your thoughts from beijing this morning, please tom. >> morning k. it's striking that despite the focus on ukraine, there's a lot of room for china into jeremy speech. he warned about the alignment from china and russia, he said they might bring russ to china because russia does not play by the global rules, and china wants that leadership role. i don't think that will have much of effect. we had the former minister of russia here in china yesterday, and they reiterated that partnership. they said that i had no limits and they had already was to the
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first test. i think that speech from the director of gchq is saying, the west is preoccupied, it's busy with ukraine, that doesn't mean it's forgotten about the role of china in that world and the world to come -- as germany talks about a generational upheaval, that's how china sees. it is clear that ukraine is happening in eastern europe, but there's a wider -- >> gentlemen, thank you both. let's bring in the international trade secretary, and marie -- good morning. thanks for joining. us >> we've heard about gchq's been saying. putin obviously coming up with the obvious story. the >> prime minister continues to be very -- putin must fail in his outrageous and illegal war in ukraine -- hand in glove with both our u.s. and uk allies to -- defend their territorial
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territorial borders in to make sure that putin takes them home. >> putin still has some friends, amongst the international community. you were there in january? and we're looking to do a trade deal, but they refused to condemn what was happening in ukraine. they don't seem to, as a result, be respecting international borders. do we really want to do a trade deal with a country like that? >> so, the foreign secretary has gone out -- to have conversations with her to discuss what is a difficult situation for all of us who are democratic nations -- that standing up for democratic nations, and the peaceful borders, which ukraine's have been breached, it's something we want to see everyone doing. -- with the ministers in india to
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do that. our trade talks are relatively early, and officials met ten days ago for some discussions, which are progressing. but, we will continue those for the time being as we have several trade deals on the go and see how we progress. it's really important that we see india -- we understand why the chosen to sit on the fence at the moment. they have connections and restrictions. for us, it's really important to see all countries who believe in democracy and the rule of law, and indeed defending your own territorial borders and wanting to have that sovereignty, respected by those around you to stand up for >> does it that. really come to agree with you? to do business with a country that by admission is causing the death of innocence. >> no it doesn't, i think we have to be clear that we continue to stand up as i say. for democratic countries where the right to live peacefully in your sovereign nation is
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something that should be respected by all. i know that this trust will be continuing to do what it is the foreign office to do. to present those arguments, trying to persuade her colleagues in india of the merits of giving their opinion on putin's outrageous illegal war. >> when are we going to allow more ukrainians to come to our sovereign nation? and get rid of the logjam that seems to be holding up so many of them. who need our help the most. >> absolutely, the two schemes are now running. i think the latest -- >> 28th. >> 25,000 visas have been granted. i know lord -- who's been brought in, has been working all hours. to try to make the process slick as possible. to help do the processing pace. one of the things we have released if you have a passport, ukrainian passport, you can do the biometric tests once you
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get to the uk. which is a real health. of course many iranians didn't have a passport, the only have identity cards. in which case they do need to be going to visa centers. in order to get a passport to do that. we are continuing to surge and work. i think it's about 1000 a day being processed. >> and come to the uk? >> i understand 25,000 visas have been issued. >> but how many? >> i don't have those numbers. >> it's significantly few i should say. >> -- -- talk to me about the golden pieces. i was reading in the morning newspaper that obviously the golden visas kim was under labor. but it was ramped up significantly under david cameron's government. basically if a russian oligarch had too many funds to invest in the uk. they were fast-tracked to come into the uk. eight of them now have, and in the prime minister's words, ukrainian blood on their hands. and there have been sanctions.
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what does that say about the british government's judgment? >> so the sanction scheme that we have brought in, as i say alongside our u.s. colleagues. has been absolutely rigorous. we have made sure, and the foreign secretary has worked incredibly hard to make sure all the sanctions are ones that will hold absolutely firm. and i think we have the highest numbers of individuals now sanctioned. i think what's so important now that we make sure that we hold everyone firm on this. so there are some who say if putin just demonstrates he want to step back. we should all -- the sanctions are there to make it very very clear that putin's war must fail. and that putin's behavior is unacceptable. and the financial pressures we are applying both to him and those who support him, who are all a guard's. regardless of where they happen to be living now cannot sustain their lifestyles. we will not allow that. >> that doesn't really answer my question. my question is what does that say about the judgment of the
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british government? when they're giving golden visas to people who have ukrainian blood on their hands? >> historically -- the key point is in a sanctioning, we are making a very clear statement for those who have -- >> no -- >> for those who have demonstrably not come in and be supporters and worked in the uk. and being perfectly legitimate members of our uk society. bringing as you say wealth and indeed lots of experience and business. those are being sanctioned. they have been punished for their relationship and their support. >> bad judgment to let them in the first place. >> as we say, we are now sanctioning those who has very clearly taken the position with putin. but there are many who have stood up against putin. and who are here and have the protection and safety of the uk. because they are standing against putin. and we commended for the bravery. >> talking about bad judgment. 20 55 -- 20 instances of the lobbying broken so far. there will be more.
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the prime minister is still refusing to say that the law was broken. the deputy prime minister, set where you are yesterday morning. he said there were clear breaches of the law. where are you on that? >> so the met police as you say, are continuing their review. as the prime minister said, we want them to complete whatever it is the path that they're going to do. and they are committed to ask sue gray to do wrap up the report. everything -- so i have always been the case that rather get -- blasted professionals go on. and sue gray report number two, which we will be able to put all the evidence that she gathered into the round of the private -- >> that being said, was the law broken? >> as i say, the prime minister has been clear that he wants to be able to come back to the house and it discussed this. >> i'm not asking with the prime minister -- >> so i'm here -- >> with do you think?
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>> i want to make sure that we let the met police do that. without interference. >> how is it interference, if 20 occasions they've issued fix penalty notices. you get one of those if you break the law? >> and so we will see when the full completed a report is done. and so great will be able to publishers. we will be able to discuss it in detail. as the police hasn't published i think at the moment i want to let them continue their work. >> but they told us, that on 20 instances, the law was broken. why is the prime minister not saying that? >> because the prime minister wants to wait for the whole process. >> what about you? how do you feel? do you think they're wrong in issuing the six penalty notices? >> i have no doubt that the police are issuing notices of those evidence. i want to make sure that we can come back to the house, and look at the whole thing, once they have completed their review of the process. and the sue gray report, which felt colleagues were frustrated by the met police.
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and sue grace evidence can be presented. >> the deputy prime minister, the justice secretary, former lawyer, misspoke when he said there were clear breaches of the law. >> no he is the secretary, and has set out a position. i think if you or i get a fine, we hopefully pay it. and move on from there. and i hope -- and i assume, that those have been fined by the police will pay their fines. and that will be the punishment that they have. >> why do we get a fine? we get a fine if we break the law. >> so indeed, when regulations -- >> so 20 instances of fines being issued, 20 instances people have broken the law. >> that's right, they've broken regulations that were set. that was what they did, therefore they've been fined accordingly. >> why will the prime minister not say that? >> he wants to wait until the whole process of the police. >> well that's the position he's taken. >> but you agree that they broken the law, okay. let's talk about the -- report. i can't even begin to imagine that.
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>> stomach lurching, awful. >> we saw some of the moms, i spoke to them yesterday. one mom whose child's brain damage as a result of what happened. 201 babies died. what should happen to some of the people that were responsible? should there be prosecutions? should people be let go? >> i know that the health secretary said yesterday, i'm afraid i didn't hear his speech. i was able to catch up on some of it. that he wants to make sure that those who were responsible for this -- i mean, catastrophic, series of failures, over so many years, are held to account. >> what does that look like? >> it will be very firm, and they will be taking the time to look through and really understand the depth of the problems. where there is real you know culpability. and how that is dealt with. and i will leave that to the health team to do that. but i want to see those who are not fit to deliver, not
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delivering the right care, to be out. it's just appalling. one of the interesting things, that i've caught briefly, as i was able to look at the report last night. was of course this fashion -- fashion is the wrong word. but this direction towards natural births away from caesarean's. it's interesting, as i read it, i realized that i was in a fantastic maternity hospital. but actually that was culturally normal, and actually for my eldest, it was a very very difficult lead up. which one has to question, was that the right choice? and i was not given the choice of a caesarean section at the time. which afterwards, for a number of reasons, might well have been the best choice. and i read that, and actually has this been a culture that's provided to the point where there is very serious -- >> i had the same situation with my child. >> that really made my heart sink at the thought, that my children are well and healthy, and i'm very blessed. but actually to think that there are many for whom those
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medical choices left families either as you say. sick children or indeed loss of their child. >> before i let you go. i want to ask about jaime wallace, member of your party. who has made the comments that he's made about wanting to be transgender. the prime minister supporting him with a tweet. but, i wondered if you wanted to comment on this, i'm sure you will. boris johnson tweeting his support. but he had also said that the supper that he held for some members of the party a couple of nights ago. good evening's -- people who were signed a female or male at birth. you know, joe explain it to us. he has a very warm and affectionate personality. he's genuinely proud in affectionate and want to support jamie and his decision to share with the world his
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choice pervades and himself -- he's a lovely young man and we're hugely proud of him. this continuing discussion is so important, but it's also important that we respect and love each other as how we want to live our lives. that's always with the prime minister wants to try and achieve, and we are incredibly proud of jamie taking on what will, by definition, as a public person, be a public commentary about his choice. that's incredibly brave and we absolutely cheer him on and want to make sure that he can be in that space, or indeed, if he chooses -- that's great too. >> we're out of time. it would be great to talk about that more detail. for now, thanks so much indeed. let's look at the front pages for you. the telegraph carries a quote, from the head of gchq, sir jeremy fleming speech which
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claims vladimir putin's advisers are afraid to tell him the truth about how russia's invasion of ukraine is playing out. they have t reports of the german and austrian governments are poised to russian gas supplies for russia. the metro reports on jaime wallace, just adding about him, the conservative who came out as the uk's first openly transgender mp. also, revealing that he was raped and targeted in black male plots. still to come on the program, just after a, joined in the studio by -- rachel reeves. former chief of the general staff, general roared -- joining us, as russian attacks on ukraine having intensify despite a pledge from moscow to pull back troops. speaking to the principle of scotland's national outdoor training center about how to stay safe on the mountains this spring.
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the organizers of the oscars was -- but he refused. just to remind you of the moment. >> i'm out there. oh. richard. [laughs] . oh, wow! wow! will smith just smacked me. >> keep my wife's name mature mouth. >> wow, dude. >> yes. >> it was a g.i. jane joke. >> keep my wife's name out of your mouth! >> i'm going to. okay? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> after going on to win the best actor oscars, he was seen dancing and singing to his own song, summertime, at the oscars vanity fair after party. >> chris rock was seen for the
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first time last night, arriving at his own -- reportedly told the audience he's processing what is happening. let's get the latest from our correspondent, greg milam. >> there have been a lot of questions about why something wasn't done at the time of this incident. it's clear that the academy was taken by surprise as everybody else who was watching. things unfolded in a way that we could not have anticipated, they say in a statement. they do say that will smith was asked to leave the ceremony after this incident, but refused. they also say that they recognize they could've handled things differently. they are now taking action with these disciplinary proceedings for violating the code of conduct. they say inappropriate physical contact, abusive or threatening behavior. they accuse will smith of. the potential punishments for that go right up to explosion from the academy. now, in modern, times that is only happened to the times -- harvey weinstein, roman polanski. people were guilty of serious sexual offenses, of course. that is seen as being unlikely to happen.
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also, this ingestion that will smith could have that oscar taken back again scene is an unlikely. it's only happened once in the history of the academy. we'll be goldberg, who is an academy governor has said it's not going to happen in this case. the most likely result will be some sort of temporary suspension. perhaps a reprimand, but will smith has two weeks to respond before his fate is decided at a board meeting in the middle of april. we should also say that chris rock, who's on the other end of that slap has been back on stage is the standard comet. he still processing what happened on that oscar stage. but >> from tomorrow, the majority of people in england will have to pay for lateral flow tests. the decision has been criticized by some. the disability quality charity scope saying the move shows a total disregard from the government for the fears and concerns of people at risk. we sent -- to southwest london to find out more from tomorrow. you are gonna have to pay for your lateral oral fares. >> yeah, officially the --
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hard to come by for a while now. including this -- that hasn't had any's for a couple months. now some still will be eligible for free tests after tomorrow, including the most fungible, when they have symptoms. for a lot of, cherries including, scope that simply not enough, -- scope is been very critical -- total disregard of the fears of the disabled people. don't forget, these protests have been away for the most vulnerable to return to their lives. without the, many will feel unsafe and afraid to go out. the government, for their, part say they're doing this because it's causing a lot of money. this protesting is costing billions every month, and they fear that they're in a position to be able to do this safely. >> okay, thanks very much indeed. looking at some of today's other headlines for you now. the beckham's london property was reportedly broken into while members of the family
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were home. david, victoria and the daughter, harper, are said to be unaware that an intruder was in the house. in a statement -- on tuesday, the 1st of march. formula 1 will return to las vegas next year, with the race taking place on the city's famous strip, the grand prix will be held on a saturday night in november, potentially around thanksgiving. the track sweeping -- legendary hotels and casinos. we tributes are pouring in for the wanton star, tom, parker who has died at the age of just 33. he'd been diagnosed with a brain tumor. let's have a quick reminder of one of the bans most memorable songs. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> the ban rose to fame in 2009 and had to number one singles, glad you came and all-time low. after the disbanded in 2014, they once again reunited last year for a charity benefit when tom told sky news he was feeling a lot better. >> i think with this disease you get quite a natural decline, but if anything, it seems to be on the incline. i feel a lot better than i did a couple months ago. but yeah, just with my increasing health getting better -- >> well, ed sheeran has led the music industry and paying tribute to tom parker, following his passing. in an instagram post, ed said,
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it's so sad to hear of tom's passing. thoughts and lover with kelsey. his children and his family. very sad day but. what a lovely guy. tom, as i said, died the age of 33. he passed away peacefully surrounded by his family, and his friends. sad news from the world for hollywood to bruce willis is -- after being diagnosed with a brain condition. here is an action. in a statement, the stars daughter confirmed that her father has aphasia, which is a condition that -- right and understand language. in a post to her instagram followers --
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bruises typing away from the career that is meant so much to him. we are moving through this as strong family unit, and wanted to bring his fans in, because we know how much he means to you, as you do to him. as was always says, live it up. and together we do -- to lula, babble -- sad news indeed. quick look at the weather. e weather. >> northerly wind will make it cold everywhere. and will bring some snow may lead to the hills of western parts are dry and clear now. but there are wintry showers in the north and the east. >> the weather, sponsored by qatar airways. >> here's a question for you
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this morning. let's see if our director knows the answer what's the difference between these two songs? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ do you know the difference is? one of -- one of these songs was voted to contain the greatest guitarist of all-time. and the other, didn't even make the top 30. can you guess which is which? hotel california, not even in the top 30. you have got to be kidding me. exactly, here in the studio, we are appalled that decision. andrew the floor manager saying don't be ridiculous. sweet child of mine, guns and
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roses, right at the top. going through the top 30, no sign of hotel california. you've got to be kidding me! purple haze, i bet you look good on the dance floor, arctic monkeys. and there is no hotel cannot fournié, when a ridiculous list. what do you think? let me know your thoughts, you can tweet me directly if you would like to. use the hatch tag, and we'll share some of them with the world later on the program. meantime, from that to this. the former chief of the general staff general -- joining us as russian attacks on ukraine has intensified. despite pledges from moscow to pull back troops. pull back troops
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a massive misjudgment on the capabilities of his own military might. 90% of people say their food bill has taken a hike, as the uk prepares for gas and electricity builds to rise from tomorrow. it's been a -- well smith was asked to leave the oscar ceremony, after slapping chris rock. but refused, as the comedian breaks his silence. heading to -- today, as part of a wider diplomatic push on the war in ukraine. the trip corn sides with sergei lavrov also heading to the country. i asked the trade secretary how she feels about trade talks with india, with the nation notably reluctant to comment on russia's offensive in ukraine. >> it's really important that we see india -- we understand why they have chosen to sit on the fence at the moment. they have connections in both directions. for us it's really important to
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see all countries who believe in democracy, and the rule of law, and indeed defending your own territorial borders and wanting to have that sovereignty respected by those around you. to stand up for that. but >> does it really sit comfortable with you doing business with a country that by omission is sanctioning the death of innocence? >> so no, it doesn't. i think we have to be clear that we continue to stand up, as we say, with a democratic countries, where the right to live peacefully and your sovereign nation is something that should be respected by all. i know this trust will be continuing to do what it is at the foreign offices to do. to present those arguments, trying to persuade her colleagues in india of the merits of giving their opinion on putin's outrageous illegal war. >> thrill to say tomorrow is here, she is going on holiday next week. what did you make of that? >> it was interesting, louis trust is an india, what can she achieve there? giving that india is a ally of moscow.
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refusing to condemn the ukraine -- and oil and sergei lavrov brother awkwardly is on his first visit since the invasion began trying to convince the indians to buy even more russian oil. liz truss we'll say democracies need to work together. lewis -- india is the world's largest democracy. there is these big meetings next week, india not in either of those. but they want india to be on side. joe biden has been pretty vocal. saying india's position on this is shaky. not clear this will achieve much. despite the charm offensive the government is engaging and. in order to try to get the trade deal with india but some -- behind the scenes. >> party gate, is it against the law what they've been doing, or not? >> boris johnson says it was not his understanding, and those words, his understanding are very important. that the rules are broken at the time.
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we can sort of see the outline of his defense there. to those claims that he did lie. that it was his understanding no parties had taken place. the difficulty is he's accused of attending six of the 12 that the met are investigating. at the moment, the government's line is slightly confusing. but will become clear once the police investigation is concluded. >> thank you very much. joining us now is general lord richard dannatt. hello to my lord, thank you for joining us on the program this morning. are we taking at face value what the russians are telling us? in the form that president putin. that they are moving back from cities like kyiv? >> i think we have to watch and see what's going on. help us understand whether we can believe him. i think what is happening is that they are making much of the fact that they are going to withdraw. at least some of the units around kyiv i think they're
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doing with they're doing is consolidating their positions. some of their units are isolated and have a way forward and they're withdrawing a number have been taken out of profit -- compact altogether. i think what we can believe is the fact that the main effort of their campaign is now switching from the failed rapid strike to affect regime change by capturing kyiv. and they're switching it to the donbas. it's unsurprising given since 2014 they've been in -- to try to control of them. i think they are now realizing the difficult situation they are in. i think they are realizing the poor performance of the military and they are reassessing what they can achieve in this campaign and cutting their losses and putting their main effort and focus on the donbas region. bearing in mind also they will continue to create the corridor from crimea to mariupol to
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donbas itself. >> can we move to the comments by the gchq heads, saying that putin's advisers are lying to him about how badly they are doing. what credence should we give to that? >> -- >> the flip side of that would be if that's the case. putin may ramp up the war? >> i think that's quite possible. what's interesting is now the intelligence authorities of the uk and the u.s. are saying what many of us who have been observing have begun to believe. that putin must have been misled by his generals and by his security staff as to the capability of his armed forces. before this campaign started. and i think he has been shielded to an extent from the harsh reality of what's been going on at the front. so he has believed that his own military is more capable than it's turned out to be. now you touch on the question does that mean that he's still
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in the dark about the reality. and he's going to order one more push if you like. or is he going to accept where he is? and change the plan? if you take their published statements it will look as if he's going to change the plan. they're going to consolidate if not completely withdraw from the northwest of kyiv. but make their main effort as i said a moment ago in the donbas region. which is where they have been fighting since 2014. >> meantime, mercenaries are being brought in from places like syria and chechnya. we are told being offered $7,000 to go to the front line. we are hearing that syrian soldiers are accepting that money in order to try to pay to feed their families back home. in syria. but i suppose the other way of looking at it is that they are likely to become cannon fodder? >> well i think sadly that is probably right. i'm not sure whether syrian soldiers who used to different
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kind of conditions really will be able to much of a meaningful contribution in the ukrainian late winter early spring. and just having individual soldiers into the fight and or without them being in coordination is tantamount to making the cannon fodder. i think it's a reflection on the fact that the russians are short of manpower. we've all got whole used to thinking that the russian army is huge. it's large like it was in the cold war days. it's not like that at all. and this force of 190, 000, that they have pushed in four, five, six, weeks ago. if you like the cream of the russian army. a lot of that has now been battered and dented. manpower is an issue. and i think it's a sign of approaching desperation, willing to offer 7002 syrians to come and join their fighting. i'm afraid a lot of the syrians who are actually dying quickly.
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>> i'm afraid we must leave it there my lord. because we need to make room of the president of the ukraine speaking to the australian parliament. >> [interpreter] a country would block the whole city for other of any country -- this is exactly what was done by russia. part of the -- any vessel that are trying to come in can simply be destroyed by the russian navy more than hundreds of vessels under different flags have been blocked by russia and our reports. we haven't seen this in the world for a country to start the war against a neighboring country openly declaring the enslavement or disruption
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destruction. not even to leave the name of that nation, not to have any opportunity for this nation to live freely the last pages of the 20th century have been brought back by russia already. the biggest threats of that century came back. the evil that humanity the most terrible thing if we don't stop russia now, if we don't hold russia accountable then some other countries of the world who are looking forward to -- will decide that sanctions are impossible for them as well. the fate of the global security is decided and now. no one can manage winds or precipitation's. no one can say any part of the world from radioactive contamination which will come if nuclear weapons are used. no country in the world can
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theoretically, should not even have a theoretical possibility of blocking trade fleet. and block the seats for countries. there shouldn't even be a theoretical possibility to do so. no leader of the world can count on being on punishable if he's thinking about pushback to war. there is the nation of australia. after more than a month of the full fledged war against russia, we can surely say there's not only one way of bringing the global security as bringing russia to peace and silence and responsibility. and accountability for everything that russia has done against the global security. the country which is using the nuclear mailing should receive the sanctions, which would show
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that mailing is disruptive. there has to be an effective tool kit to hold responsible any country which is blocking the trade navigation. so for no one to have a temptation to close nec. so far we don't have such instruments, so the leadership of australia, can be power mount for the global security which has no strengthen. and a coalition which is working on bringing the piece back to ukraine. which were created to hold military war criminals. >> okay we will move away from the discussion between president zelenskyy's speech to the australian parliament and bring you more later on.
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just want to highlight this for you, maybe planning your easter holidays because they are just around the corner. some of you may be thinking of booking a staycation. involving a hike. here in the uk, we're lucky to have some of the most standing ranges in the world. while so beautiful they can also be very dangerous. joined now by sean roberts, principal -- scotland's national outdoor training center. thank you for joining us on the program this morning. we have seen some deaths, both of -- and -- over the last few days and weeks. what's driving the increase do you think? >> sadly this winter we have seen deaths in mountains. and there's always a range of factors that link into every incident. many of this -- the hard snow pack that we've had. and obviously any slip or trip has raised serious
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consequences. we working for everyone to see the snowy conditions we have at the moment. so our winter mountains are in full winter conditions. there have been many many people, thousands of people heading to the hills this morning. and all of those i'm sure we'll be having a great day out there. the right plan in preparation. >> and what do you need to look at britain to see the difference between the two scenes? whether you talk tips for people about heading to the mountains over easter? >> we were just, ask people to have a progressive approach with their planning. and within that, ask the where, who, and the y. so what information do you need? obviously you need the weather, and most weather forecasts we see at the tally is a c forecast. we expect conditions to be windier or colder on the tops of mountains. so have a mountain weather forecast, there are many available on the internet.
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as you can see behind me, it is winter at the moment. at scotland we have these scotland on avalanche service. if you're coming north to the highlands, have a look at the avalanche. and there's great information there to help you plan. obviously where you go, we need to relate back to the weather. so always aim to plan to get the most from your journey. so try and correspond your journey to where the weather is perhaps a little bit more benign. or where -- yesterday on our mountains we had low avalanche hazards. and today with the new slow fall we have more direct avalanche hazards. that information is there to help you navigate and negotiate around. of course, as we look at the cloud behind me. the ability to navigate is going to be very central to a successful journey on the mountains. if you want to navigator that relies on technology, please make sure you have back up in terms of battery. but you're always slightly vulnerable if you're just
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relying on mapping or on a phone for example. and we always advocate a map and compass of heading for the hills. >> really good advice, thank you very much indeed. make sure you dress for the weather. thank you shaun, much appreciated. what's believed to be the uk's oldest mountain rescue dog is being honored with the so-called animal -- here they are 15 year old border collie -- hello. carried out around 200 searches during her 11 year career working in all weathers to help locate missing people. she'll become the 36th animal to receive the -- order of merit. good for you. and she is 11 years old. still walking up those mountains. moun tains. another baby who died after months of abuse back in 2007. could be free from jail after parole board ruled that she's
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now eligible for release. joining us criminologists, and head of psychology at birmingham university. thank you for joining us on the program. we are told that she has a low risk of re-offending. how difficult is it for somebody who has carried out such a monstrous crime to be rehabilitated? >> the parole board take their duty very seriously as you can imagine. they have approximately 25,000 cases of percenters who come off parole every year and the recruitment is quite rigorous for staff who joined the parole board whether they're psychologist, psychiatrists, members from the probation panel on social workers. they do know that the risks are there. and that no decision made by the parole board is 100% safe. of course they base their decisions on expert interviews.
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on expert testimony. as well as face to face with the prisoners to. i think we should remember of the 25,000 cases that come across the desk of the staff at the parole board each year they end up interviewing and speaking to only about 5000 of those. and only about half of those are successful in being released. at another 12 or 10% go to open person. so we're looking at a relatively small number of offenders who re-offend each year. based on pre-pandemic cystic's. we're looking at about 60 individuals who have re-offended after they have been released or sent to open person. the number itself, it's quite small. but obviously we are concerned about the most extreme offenders, and those -- who have been convicted of a very very shocking crimes that go against what to the order of society should be.
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>> once they have made their decision, can that be overturned? we have heard that the justice secretary he would be asking the board to reconsider. >> the process of challenging decisions made by the parole board is there. and it's been there in the form that it exists since the 90s. when the parole board was independent as it could be. you can apply for a review if you are a victim, or you are connected to the case in some way. but there's also the ability for a traditional review. so justice secretary is perfectly within his rights to do this. and most cases of release do come across the desk of the justice secretary, one way or another. so there's nothing particularly unusual in the actions taken. of course it's a politically shrewd move to do that. just to try and double check, and second guess the parole board's decision is safe as it can be.
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given the circumstances of colleagues complex background and her offending. >> and how difficult is it for someone like tracy connally to come back into society? she'll need to change her name i'm guessing, and where she lives. how difficult is it for somebody who has carried out such monstrous crimes to be rehabilitated themselves? >> it's not an easy process. when you work with offender such as connally. and you are talking to the backgrounds, and indeed miss connally's background, her childhood was not a particularly good one. social services were aware of her, and she was sent to an approved school. so her background is very complex, and very messy. but when you're working with offenders to try to challenge and ultimately change dangerous behaviors, such as the one she exhibited. it takes a long time to take what they did their behavioral patterns, their attitude. and their personality.
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one of the first things you have to do is get the offender to admit their offense,. and what they did was wrong. we do know that connally was released from prison, previously on parole, and about 2013. and unfortunately she was sent back to prison because she breach conditions of her parole. thankfully she hadn't committed any offenses or contact offenses against others. but in the terms of her parole license, so in one way we can argue that the system does work. the decision made by the parole board at the time was wrong. but it was rectified and corrected, and she did go back into custody. that of course is something that the parole board would have considered, and their latest decision. we need to remember >> unfortunately we're out of time. we'll leave it there, thank you very much for joining us on the program, much appreciated. thank you. today's top stories, top of the
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