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if leqvio is right for you. lower. longer. leqvio. thanks for spending time with us on "the beat." that does it for us. "the reidout" with joy reid starts right now. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with the growing and undisputable evidence russia committed war crimes in bucha killing, torturing and committing atrocities. >> reporter: this is no ordinary crime scene. behind yellow plaques numbered one to six are all that distinguish the remains of one life from another. each body burned beyond
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recognition. we've not been here very long but in this small corner of bucha, we've already counted eight bodies. there are many more houses and gardens yet to be searched. ukrainians say that every death is going to be investigated and cases built so that prosecutions for war crimes can be heard. >> nbc richard engel spoke to a resident in bucha who described what it was like living through the massacre there. >> reporter: she's saying she and other people here were completely terrorized by the russian soldiers so in an effort to try to show that they weren't threatening, they put signs like these on their apartment building doors to say we're just peaceful civilians but she said it didn't help very much. that the russians would burst into people's homes, that if you didn't open the door quick enough, they'd open fire and shoot anyone that disagreed with then. >> earlier today president volodymyr zelenskyy appeared before the u.n. security counsel
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describing the crimes committed in bucha in graphic detail. >> translator: i am addressing you on behalf of the people who honor the memory of the deceased every single day in the memory of the civilians who died who were shot and killed in the back of their head after being tortured. some of them were shot on the streets, others were thrown into the wells. so they die there in suffering. women were raped and killed in front of their children. they were -- their tongues were pulled out because the aggressor did not hear what they wanted to hear from them. >> after his speech, he played a stunning have you had owe showing the atrocities uncovered throughout the country. we're about to play a portion of the video and i do just want to warn the viewers, this video is extremely graphic. it was provided by the ukrainian government who added their own music to it. take a look. ♪
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♪ >> nbc news reports in response to the apparent war crimes, the u.s. will announce sanctions including a ban on investment in russia and increase sanctions on financial institutions and government officials. the e.u. is announced sanctions on russian coal and ships. additionally almost 200 russian diplomatic staff have been expelled from european countries this week in a direct expression of the slaughter. meanwhile, the war continues with zelenskyy making the point there are similar deaf state in other cities including mariupol still under full assault and kharkiv where the government says russia is detaining proukrainian residents. the proukrainian government said shelling killed 12 people
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including four children with 168 children killed during the war and in the west, strikes were heard anytime city of lviv. joining me is ali velshi. ali, such a moving speech by president zelenskyy today. and then the russian ambassador spoke. and what he said was crackers, right? but the one thing that he did say that probably rang true is they -- he claimed that they have taken 600,000 ukrainians into russia including 119,000 children. if i'm not wrong, that sounds like genocide or a kidnapping. tell me what you're seeing and hearing in lviv. >> reporter: well, this is -- these things that until now were sort of academic ideas because we didn't think we'd have to deal with them again become important, right? war crimes, hard to prove, harder to prosecute. actually, not that hard to prove given the evidence that we've got, just hard to prosecute.
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remember, neither the united states nor russia, nor ukraine are signatories to the international criminal court. ukraine has allowed them some jurisdiction after what happened in 2014 in crimea so it falls to the united nations but russia as a seat on the security counsel at the united nations and brought accusations that maybe the ukrainians themselves did the things that you showed on those videos. the atrocities that were committed in bucha. this becomes a problem. there are people here, ukrainians saying first of all, ukraine should ratify the international criminal court participation anyway. they are starting a war crimes tribunal here but semantics. president biden asked is this a genocide? sorry, president biden said i don't know but it war crimes. so the issue is are these people deliberately being targeted because of who they are, i.e., because they're ukrainians because you have heard russian officials including vladimir putin say it not really a
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country, they don't really have a culture. there are people in russia calling for the anallation of the -- annihilation of the people. the ukrainians, some of them including the president are interpreting that to be genocide. now, here is the rough. whether it's war crimes or genocide, joy, there is a question of enforcement. there are no rules if there is nobody to enforce them and there is no one there who is likely going to go and arrest vladimir putin. he's certainly not turning himself in. whether or not vladimir putin and henchmen will be subject to prosecution which is what ukrainians want now is secondary to the fact this war goes on and what they really want, you listen to the things going on in the world, more sanctions, expulsion of diplomats, they want more weaponry and a way to keep their air space clear of russian attacks. as you said, there was a shell that landed about 40 miles from where we are in western ukraine. these rocket attacks, missile attacks continue daily.
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the ukrainians are saying do anything you want. sell us your stuff. lend us your stuff. lease us your stuff but we need more stuff. we don't need your troops in here. we need air support and more weaponry. >> yeah. ali velshi, you have just described the big flaw in this world order the u.n. is supposed to preside over. it's a gentleman's agreement. if there are people opposite of gentleman and willing to flout the rules, there is no law enforcement mechanism. sounds like the united states constitution, unenforceable norms. thank you very much, my friend. stay safe. joining me now is linda thomas greenfield, maam ambassador, thank you for being here. let me get your reaction in the room when the harrowing video was played. i know there was a delay of the
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atrocities we've seen in ukraine as perpetrated by the military. >> you know, we were all speechless. we had all seen various videos showing atrocities but they all covered up the real, you know, the real people that were there. they were all blurred. this was the first time i seen that video without the bodies being blurred. it was horrific. there was silence in the room. i can tell you that people were horrified and it was an extraordinarily effective message to give to the security counsel to confirm the atrocities that we all know that have been carried out in ukraine by the russians. >> i also want to get your reaction to the russian
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federations, ambassador. he also had something to say. let me play a little clip of this for the audience. >> translator: factual evidence and common sense trying to lay the blame for death on the russian military. this is unacceptable. the fact to consider that russian military would be capable of this and now we're seeing blatant criminally staged events with ukrainian civilians killed by their own radicals. the only ones that could fall for this fake are western partners. we came to you to ukraine not to conquer lands. we came to bring the long awaited peace to the blood soaked land of donbas. we need to cut out the nazi tumor and we'll achieve that goal. >> and then i've read through most of his speech which is bizarre. and i wonder a, what was your
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reaction to that? i know you were in the region not long ago. >> it was -- >> did you see any evidence -- >> that he would -- no. we saw evidence of what he was talking about but not evidence of anyone else doing it but them. i was in the region meeting with women and children who had escaped that carnage. who had left their husbands and many times elderly relatives behind and they were worried about what had happened to their relatives. this was so incredible that he would say that. the russians would have us believe that this was all staged. and the truth of the matter, joy, is before february 24th, none of this was taking place in ukraine. there were no bodies on the streets. there were no people being killed. there was no blood flowing.
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so only russia is responsible for this and they would have us believe that the ukrainians did this to themselves. it is absolutely ridiculous and nobody believed it. he was talking to himself because not a single person in that room believed what he said. >> yeah, it was clear he was doing that for an audience of one, meaning vladimir putin. president zelenskyy has flat out accused and i think we've all seen the evidence of it, the russian -- russia of war crimes and we know there are two designations. there are crimes against humanity, you know, individually targeting individual people for a slaughter and torture and then there are also genocide, the idea of trying to wipe a people off the map. have you -- do you believe that either of those two things have happened? crimes against humanity, war crimes, and genocide in ukraine?
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>> war crimes and crimes against humanity have absolutely taken place and we are working with the ukrainians to document the evidence so that we can prove it, that the russians have committed atrocities and war crimes. we saw evidence of that in the pictures out of bucha today and we all know that once we get into mariupol, we're going to see more evidence of atrocities being committed. this is not the first and we expect to see many more pictures like what we saw today. >> and if, in fact, the u.n. comes as a body to believe that russia has committed crimes against humanity, war crimes and maybe perhaps genocide, they expressed it to wipe ukraine away and get rid of it, what power -- i think this is the question a lot of us are asking. what power does the united
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nations have? president zelenskyy in a way asked it to enforce these global norms, is there something that the u.n. can actually do to russia? >> zelenskyy was extraordinary affected today in his presentation to the secuity counsel and he called upon the security counsel to take responsibility and i can tell you, joy, that over the past six weeks, we have worked diligently to isolate russia in the security counsel and they are isolated. we have had two votes in the general assembly with overwhelming support to first call out russia and condemn what they have done and secondly, to support humanitarian assistance for the ukrainians. they are isolated in the security counsel as you saw today, they are isolated in the general assembly and isolated
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around the world and you may have heard that i announced yesterday and mentioned today in my remarks that we are going to move forward to suspend russia from the human rights counsel. they have not acted in any way to really give us confidence that they deserve to be on these human rights counsel or to continue to act as they are in the security counsel. they are members, that's a fact. we can't change the fact but we certainly can keep them isolated. we can keep them on their heels. >> we are literally out of time but i'll sneak one more question in. should they be picked off the security counsel and can that happen? >> look, the secuity counsel was created as a product of the creation of the u.n. after world war ii. they are a member of the security counsel. that's a fact.
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we can't change that fact but we certainly can isolate them in the security counsel. we can make their presence in that body very uncomfortable and we have done that, and we are working to kick them off or suspend them from the human rights counsel. >> thank you ambassador linda thomas green field. she'll be honored, keepers of the dreams award gala for her career in public service and leadership at the united nations. up next on "the reidout" ivanka trump talked to the january 6th select committee for about eight hours today as we learn about a rather surprising admission from her father, the former president. also. >> i intended to get health care passed even if it cost me reelection. which for awhile looked like it might. [ laughter ] >> just like old times, former
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report donald trump's daughter ivanka trump appeared voluntarily before the select committee investigating january 6th today testifying for roughly eight hours as a white house official during trump's administration, she's clearly a high value witness with trump's state of mind that day. ivanka was with her father before, during and after the siege and notably by trump eastside in a tent during his rally. in january, the committee revealed ivanka was sometimes at odd with her father. according to witnesses, on the morning of january 6th she prized mike pence for resisting her father's requests and she was pushing trump to call off the mob and she had difficulty persuading him to take action. the committee is particularly interested in her answer why the president wasn't asked to walk to the briefing room and appear on live television to ask the crowd to leave. here is what bennie thompson
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said about ivanka trump's testimony while it was still on going this afternoon. >> she's answering questions. i mean, you know, not in broad chatty terms. chatty terms >> this comes after ivanka's husband jared kushner provided helpful information to investigators during his testimony last week according to a member of the committee. joining me is fbi intelligence agent and senior columnist at bloomberg and msnbc analyst. tim, normally, news that ivanka and jared are cooperating with the committee would, you know, not interest me a lot but understanding the trump families self-promotion and self-preservation, you know, and also their lack of loyalty to each other, it wouldn't shock me if she was willing to throw her
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dad under the bus to rewrite her own story historically. what do you think? >> you know, this is also coming up in the new york state attorney general's investigation and the manhattan d.a.'s investigation, the extent to which the children who were co-conspirators with her father or witnesses to her father's behavior will discuss what they know or lay down on railroad tracks for their father. what is interesting about today is they didn't have to subpoena her. she willingly spoke to the committee at length in a way in which they were satisied with her testimony. her tension when her father has been among the three children, she's had his pride and she's the only child he's sort of been in an unvarnished and often disturbing way bond of what she represents in his life. and she has always tried to recreate her own public image as something other than this
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cartoon grifter aloe that has clung to the trumps in new york and people came to know later on the national stage. on the morning of january 6th whatever her misgivings about her father putting pressure on mike pence, the reality is when the insurrection broke out, she initially tweeted please patriots, something to the effect of please patriots stand down and go home. a tweet she later deleted because she used the term patriots instead of insurrectionists or seditionists. the end goal for the january 6th committee is to discern the extent to which donald trump was not a by stander to a set of grotesque events but actually the architect and their primary instigator and to the extent she's witnessed him acting in that way is valuable testimony and she's appeared to offer some
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of that. >> yeah, and peter, put yourself back in fbi counter intel mode. if you have a family this transparent that the father is open, about wanting to overturn the election and previewed it for months saying in december it's going to be wild, sort of told you what he was going to do and then it happens and you have a family this transactional again with each other. there is no loyalty in any direction. how would you use just as an investigative matter someone like ivanka to try to get to the bottom of the insurrection? >> yeah, well, you know, i can't over state the importance of having somebody inside the room of a potential criminal conspiracy when they offered and invited ivanka to show up and broadly talk about four things. the first was any sort of conversations trump might have had about events leading up to january 6th. two events on january 6th itself, one to focus on any interaction and conversation he had about mike pence a tweet he issued about mike pence and the second issue, any sort of role he had with regard to deploying
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or not deploying the national guard and then finally, the fourth topic they wanteded to ask her about is anything after january 6th that might indicate some attempt to cover up what had happened, to not talk to somebody, to try to get stories straight. so i think when you have somebody like this walk in the room willing to talk to you and she certainly is well advised by counsel. i'd be surprised if she said anything that was a lie and later on interviewed would be at odds with what she said. it says to me, one, she does have a desire and i agree with tim, it very much to burnish her historical image but immense to the committee and certainly will be to criminal investigators, as well. >> good luck rewriting your image. you won't be able to do that. mike pence is another interesting figure. trump had no loyalty to him. he was willing to let people hang him and be lynched to stay in officer but what is
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interesting is chairman bennie thompson said they ruled out subpoenaing mike pence, which i found interesting siting significant information they received from two aides, thompson indicated the panel would not be likely to call trump as a witness saying i don't know anything else we could ask donald trump that the public doesn't already know. he ran his mouth for four years. what do you make of the fact that mike pence seems to be cooperating without a subpoena? >> it's really interesting. look at mike pence. he's making critical calculations now where he stands with regard to the 2020 presidential race whether he himself wants to run or back up the candidates so he is looking at this not only in terms of what his role was and don't think from what i've seen he does but we don't know the facts. certainly his behavior is influenced but what is coming down the road for the next presidential election and it seems from i agree with you this is much more his unwillingness of the committee to issue a subpoena to him is very
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interesting to me and does seem to indicate that whether it's with the committee or whether it's with some parallel investigation that's going on within the d.o.j. and fbi there are some things at play that are not public that is weighing -- playing the part of -- playing a role in this decision by the committee. >> yeah, it is interesting. one more for you, tim, because this is interesting, too. if they were to call donald trump, i wonder what he would say to the answer did you win or lose the election? liz cheney, the other day, she -- let's just play it real quick. we have 20 seconds. here is liz cheney. >> we have learned that president trump and his team were warned in advance and repeatedly that the efforts they under took to overturn the 2020 election would violate the law and our constitution. despite all of these specific warnings, president trump and his team moved willfully to attempt to halt the peaceful transfer of power to halt the
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constitutional process for counting votes. >> okay. but tim, this is what donald trump said and this is an interview he did with historians last summer and in the clip he's talking about a deal that he says he struck with south korea's president to cover more of the country's defense. here is what he said. >> we had a deal. he would pay $5 billion a year but when i didn't win the election, he had to be the happiest -- >> he didn't win the election. he knows it. your thoughts, tim? >> donald trump has been lying about deals and his own track record for 60 of his 70 plus years. he's lying now. he's not to be taken at face value on anything he says about the outcome of the election or anything that led up to it or occurred after it. >> yeah, he knows he lost. which is -- >> he knows he lost. of course he did. >> he knew he was lying. exactly. peter, tim, thank you both very
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people who need it and allow 200,000 more uninsured americans get access to coverage. >> last month, marks 12 years since president obama signed legislation into law allowing millions of america caps to get health coverage. it comes at a pivotal time as biden faces rising inflation and concern about prospects in the upcoming midterms and joining me now is cornell belcher, president of research and strategy and okay, my friend. i know you're a pollster. i got to ask you if these polls mean anything. i'm serious. i've become -- i'm a polling geek. i love polls. but i'm starting to wonder if we can trust them. let's put this up. here is a series of poll from 2010 until now. that's the approval ratings for obama, obama, biden. they fluctuate a bit. in 2010, he was 49-44 and even
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and in 2014, 67% enthusiasm, democrats 15. >> thank you. you got to take a step back and take a historical look at this. stop reading so many polls. i'm a pollster. people are using polls these days for everything. and it's just too much polling out there in the public space but let's step back from this. from a historical standpoint, there are dynamics at play in the midterm that quite frankly the president is not the sen -- central variable. whether it be george bush or barack obama or bill clinton. we know the pattern that happens throughout history. the president isn't the key
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variable in this in this conversation. i know everyone wants to make the president, the key variables they only if biden were doing better but you can see only if george bush was doing better, only if president clinton was doing better and obama was doing better. they are one variable. what happens during the midterm what we're facing now and the same thing you saw with the recent republican presidents is you do have a lack of enthusiasm, a letdown among base democratic voters. when you look at sort of where younger voters are and voters of color are right now, they are lacking the enthusiasm. one thing republicans can always count on is that their base vote will turn out as more alive and by the way, they do things to generate to be nominated for
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supreme court justice, these classic dog whistles and feeding of the republican base is what they do to energize their base voters and quite frankly, i think democrats are guilty of not quite frankly paying enough attention and throwing red meat to feed our base the way republicans do. far too often on this swing vote in the middle l we put all the weight on as republicans understand that it starts with energizing their base and then building out. >> yeah. absolutely. here is president obama's prescription what to do about the midterms. >> mr. president, what do you say to democrats worried about the midterms? >> we got a story to tell, just got to tell it. >> these are the senate races up. 14 democrats and 21 republicans, senators that are up and three sort of swing republican races and one maggie in new hampshire for democrats and tossups around the country.
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is it as simple as voters of color and younger voters don't turn out in midterms reliably so there is not much to do because they're not reliable as you said unless you find something to make them enthusiastic and there isn't anything right now. is that the fate of the democrats or could the fact you have roe v wade about to be overturned and anti guy laws, the extremism of the republican party, does that change the potential outcome here because republicans are taking it so far and being so overtly racist and anti woman and anti gay, anti everybody? >> i think to the president's point, democrats have a fantastic story to tell. they just have to do a better job of telling it and have to be committed to in fact telling that story. look, i've said on this network many times that abortion rights are choice is a mobilizing issue for the right. until joy, until those white
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women and suburban america feel as though that right will be taken away from them and then all of a sudden, we'll find out quite frankly how important this is for them but however, we have to in fact drive that conversation. we have to decide what the election will be about. look, in virginia what just happened was quite frankly you did have a very different electret in virginia this time around than you had when the last time around had an elector less diverse and less young. look, and a dominated conversation with republican base issues. let's dominate the conversation with choice. let's dominate the conversation with justice and policing. let dominate the conversation with voting rights and see what happens. >> yeah. let's see what happens. amen. tell who the other side is and we'll do a little bit of that tonight on the show. thank you very much, my friend. telling the story of who these people are, marjorie taylor greene's buffoonery, if the republican party's alleged
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marjorie and the idiot thelma to her luis will keep getting elected with her friends. marjorie greene is a far right conspiracy theorist upon learning that three non-republican senators would support the nomination of judge ketanji brown jackson, green called those senators propedophile. the grotesque defamatory statement is led by ted cruz, tom cotton and their barking dog colleague lindsey graham that judge jackson is soft on sentencing child pornography offenders. it is a lie. and yet, they have no problem supporting fellow republicans after learning of their actual sexual exploitation of children and women. marjorie q herself hangs out with matt gaetz under investigation for having sex with a 17-year-old and paying her to travel with him including across state lines. let's not forget the object of maga worshipper himself donald
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trump and dozens of allegations of sexual misconduct made against him and allegations as the owner of a teen beauty pageant, he enjoyed busting into the dressing rooms when the teenage girls were naked and predator roy moore and the horse he rode in on and chumming with jeffrey epstein, a felon accused of pedophile and sexual abuse for more than a decade. the hypocrisy aside, let's be clear what marjorie taylor greene is doing. the libs or pedophile talking point sounds similar to what she's about, qanon, remember, the center piece of the qanon ideology is this made up claim that a massive child sex trafficking ring is secretly run by democratic and hollywood elites and trump will root it out. sure, the republican platform is based on fear tactics, the fake crt bogeyman and how gay existence will turn your child gay or trans but listen to the catch phrases invading our
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trying to indoctrinate their children, to groom them, to become gay or trans. these terms, indoctrination, grooming, predator, accusing innocent people of being pedophiles or being soft on pedophiles, it's also a very specific trigger for a group that is sinking its teeth into our political discourse. folks like marjorie taylor greene know that. there's a reason her pro pedophile tweet is the attack du jour. it's a bad signal to qanon. joining me now is justice correspondent for the nation. elliott, you have made this point before when these people are saying over and over again, pedophile, pedophile, pedophile, and associating that with any democrat in front of them, they are -- it is a dog whistle to get the qanon people and sick them on whoever that is. you've talked about the fact that they know these people are dangerous and they're doing it on purpose because they don't care if this judge, judge jackson, gets her. i'm gonna let you talk. >> when i first brought this up, one of these conservative say, how dare you asked questions about her record is inciting violence against her?
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but you see, they had -- they don't question anymore. because unfrozen caveman congresswoman is no longer asking questions, she's making declarative statements about pedophilia and who is for it, and who is against it. and that is basically what you saw all throughout the senate judiciary committee yesterday, starting with hypocrite lindsey graham and going on down through the whole party. these attacks are designed to attack ketanji brown-jackson, not her record, but her personal character, and we know that these attacks can put her life and the life of her family and children in danger. we know they know that. and we know they have something particularly that they are angry at her about. and it is not the allegedly pedophile sentencing record. it is the fact that ketanji brown-jackson was sentenced and your walls, who was the guy who went to conduct pizza in washington d.c. looking for the
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pedophile ring to do violence. he's the pizza guy. ketanji brown-jackson sentenced him. you know, they did talk about that sentencing. no, they want -- they didn't want to talk about the time where ketanji brown jackson sentence that guy to four years in prison. so the qanon people are angry at her ready. and now they have come over the top with these pedophilia attacks. it is designed to put her life in danger, and that's -- you're so right, that's what we have to talk about because this is what they are doing on purpose. >> they are punishing her. just to prove to you, all if you're watching, they don't care about pedophilia. this isn't what they care about it all. ginni thomas, she, affirmed a liberty consulting, of course that's what it called, they represented a path called fed a pack, and you know who the feta pack represents? roy moore. supported roy moore when he was running for the united states senate. christopher ruffault, he admitted that this is but there. doing we had him on the, show he pretends that he's an expert in something, i don't know who he thinks he's an expert in.
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but i think, hey, ideological grooming is good for the twitter crowd. political predators is good for the offline crowd. basically counseling republicans on how they should say and how you should take this qanon attack and that is a cuckoo conspiracy theory and more fit into something useful. i don't know if you agree with me, it's significant who's using. if some one like josh hawley, tom cruise, or lindsey, who fashion themselves after presidential candidates, they know who will be behind them. >> it's a complete base play for politics and it doesn't make it better. the fact that there is a great chance that lindsey graham doesn't actually believe, it he just wants to say it to be president. that doesn't make it better, i can argue that it actually makes it worse for him to be doing it that way, but you also have to remember when talking about these cuckoo for cocoa puffs conspiracy theories, again, they need some real harm. i think you pointed it out
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during the confirmation hearings, while they are making these attacks on jackson, that can cause -- put her life in danger, they are also being very clear about where her daughters go to school. >> exactly. >> they went right to -- so if you are a qanon person watching the confirmation hearing, you know where ketanji brown jackson's family where they work, where the kids go to school, and these ridiculous pedophile attacks. so they're giving them all the information that they need to do real harm and real bad things to this person, whose only crime, at this point, is being a black woman. >> and they -- that offense. them >> and republicans say, even republicans say she's qualified. this is directly at her just because she is who she is. >> very quickly, i want to play time for you because he took it even lower today. >> the lasted jackson left the spring cord to go to nuremberg
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and prosecute the case against the nazis. this judge jackson might have gone there to defend them. >> slavery defender tom cotton. your reaction. >> insurrection or fishy auto tom cotton is the last person who gets to say that. he needs to keep judge jackson's name out his mouth, because robert jackson, i'm sure cotton doesn't know this, robert jackson was actually a huge defender of the fourth amendment and of due process. i'm sure he would've welcomed people to go defend the nazis because that's how we know that there is a fair trial going on. so tom cotton has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to the legacy of that particular supreme court justice. but more to the point, tom cotton in fact is the person not doing the things to prosecute the people who actually ran a coup against this country and this government. he's a sympathizer to fascism, not ketanji brown-jackson. he's -- as much as i can say about tom
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cotton on a family network show. show new republican tactic of smearing everyone who disagrees with them as supporting pedophilia. then, -- >> i do not need to spell out with the so-called filtration camps are innocent of. it's chilling. >> the allegations of war crimes grow as we get new insight into the chilling pretense of what russia means when they say they want to de-nazify ukraine. plus, the january six committees ivanka trump is

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