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political officials on both sides of the aisle, begging trump to intervene and him rebuffing all of these overtures. >> all right, congressman jeremy raskin, thank you very time tonight. that is all in on this tuesday night. the racheln this tuesday thank you for your time. that's "all in with chris hayes" for right now. the "the rachel maddow show" with ali velshi begins right now. i'm joining you again tonight from the city of lviv, in ukraine. and here in lviv sits one of the oldest cemeteries in europe. it dates to 1887. in addition to holding the graves of some ukraine's most celebrated artists and politicians it also holds the graves of ukrainian soldiers for many, many centuries since the city's founding. there were uprightings against the russian empire veterans of
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world war i and world war ii were dwrooukians and russians fought together to deliver ukraine from nazi occupation. now the cemetery is a resting place for an evergrowing number of soldiers who have died in the current for ukraine. dozens of others buried there in recent week. and even as the military dead are put to rest in a central square here in lviv, earlier tonight, hundreds of candles were lit to honor civilians killed in the russian invasion of this country. civilians whose bodies are now being recovered in towns where russian forces were withdrawn. civilians that have not had the dignity of a funeral. many not even a burial, many of the victims have not been identified and some may never be. residents along with ukrainians
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who fled here to escape the invasion arranged yellow and blue candles in the shape of their country. like all ukrainians they're trying to come to grips with the horror that's been uncovered. for the past days we've been getting grisly reports out of the city of bucha following the russian occupation of forces that havee occupied that town r weeks. today, the chief correspondent richard engelnt went to bucha. i will warn you as i sadly do every night some the images in richard's reports are deeply ep disturbing. >> reporter: to enter bucha now, you have to drive past a graveyard of russian tanks. ukrainian troops kicked the russians out of his key suburb and once again are in charge. but for five weeks, russian soldiers occupied bucha. destroyed much of it and imposed
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a reign of terror. today, residents are coming out of hiding. value tina said russian soldiers went apartment to apartment mostly searching for men. they were breaking open doors with axes and sledgehammers, shr said, if you talked back, they shot you. she wanted to show me something behind the building. she's saying one of her neighbors was so frightened because the russian soldiers were banging on his door that he jumped out of that window on the third floor and came landing on the ground, didn't die, hurt himself, but managed to escape. he thought the russians were just going to shoot him dead. desperation. a few feet away was a grave valentina dug with her friend. you put up a cross? >> yeah.
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>> reporter: two were our neighbors she says, we don't know who the other two were, but buried them anyway, all four were machine gunned by russian troops. she doesn't know why. please don't let this happen again. we are regular, hard working people. down the street, this family was in their home when russian soldiers threw a grenade through the window and set fire to the house. vladimir and his daughter iryna came out in the cold in slippers. they started saying where are theta nazis, give us their addresses. >> translator: they said we are russians. >> reporter: thee soldiers grabbed her sister and took him out of the house. she make him take his sweater off, but him on his knee and shot him in the head. i went on the street, blood was stillre pumping from his head.
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i started to scream, kill me, too, because i only have one husband. she thinks they killed him to scare impeople. oleg was a welder, iryna said he never served in the military becausen of his bad back. when the soldiers were very left, they took his sweater with him. >> translator: i always thought they were brothers. >> reporter: ukrainian troops estimater: hundreds of civilian are murdered in bucha. they're still finding bodies after a wanton disregard for human life here that in even in war is a crime. >> nbc's richard engel in bucha today. as ukrainian forces regain these towns around kyiv and places north, officials there are calling it crimes. they're trying to build an evidentiary record in hopes of holdingpe russian forces and
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vladimir putin accountable. sky news was at the scene of another part of bucha. >> reporter: this is no ordinary crime orscene, plaques numbered one to six are all that distinguished lives from one life to another. each body burned beyond recognition. like so many victims in the town ofms bucha, their identities ar not yet known, but what is clear is ukraine's resolve for justice and its rage at russia. >> reporter: how can you talk to vladimir putin when his forces do this? we've not been here very long,
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but in this small corner of bucha, we've already counted eight bodies. there are many more houses and gardens yet to be searched. down the road, two more stolen lives, discarded in death but further evidence of ukraine's investigators. >> sky news deborah haynes in bucha, ukraine. yesterday, ukraine's president, volodymyr zelenskyy went to bucha to see the carnage for himself. today in an address to the united nations security council he describes civilians being tortured, people shot in the back of their head with her head bound. women raped in front of their families, hi anger was palpable. >> reporter: if this continues, the countries will lie on the power of their own arms to ensure their security. and not on international law. not relying on international
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institution. the united nations can be simply closed, ladies and gentlemen. are you ready to close the u.n.? do you think that the time of international law is gone? if your answer is no, then you need to act immediately. >> zelenskyy has said that bucha for all its horrors may not be the worst of it. that other places like the devastated town of borodynka 15 miles away may have suffer forward atrocities. able to start recovery efforts not just in cities and towns but even on the roads in between them. just outside of kyiv there's an important highway connecting the capital to the region. people are using it to evacuate. it's become a humanitarian corridor. for almost 40 days, russian
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troops tried to enter kyiv, they couldn't do it, on the way to the capital on the highway between kyiv, they destroyed everything they could. people were killed, bodies strewn about on the roadside. we know this because the highway has since been liberated by ukrainian forces. but much of what is left behind is hard to watch. a ukrainian member of parliament visited the area. >> i'm in kyiv, on the highway kyiv. just kilometers from kyiv and you see this hell. it's something absolutely awful. that is -- russian road. that is what is done by putin and russian federation, just watch this. and cars like these, with
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bodies, are just all around. >> those highways just one of many areas that he visited in order to document the atrocities in the wake of the russian retreat. he also visited bucha, while the situation on the ground there is harrowing, he worries that the reality could be far worse in cities still under siege. he tweeted, quote, ukrainians who managed to evacuate mariupol say the bucha massacre is only part of the kremlin atrocities. when the world sees mariupol, you won't have enough tears. and i'm scared to hear it. i'm scared to hear it. joining us from a southern city, a member of the ukrainian parliament. alex, thanks for being with us. we were together on saturday when you first reached that area in bucha. you had your phone, you were
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showing me a shopping mall that had been destroyed. at that point, in the middle of day on saturday, neither you nor i had first seen what you experienced, the bodies and the sheer destruction throughout the region. >> that is true. it was -- what we saw is awful. absolutely horrific picture of devasation and murders committed by russian army. and i can tell you i saw up to 50 killed people. 50, just imagine. bodies in black plastic bags and burned out cars that i now show you. i saw one which was absolutely awful on kyiv. i saw naked bodies of women and
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their clothes were near the road so you can just understand what had happened probably before their death. but after russian troops killed them, they put them on tires and tried to burn them down. and partly, they succeeded and partly not. it's so awful that i can't just explain it what i saw before my own eyes. i met a couple who saw by their own eyes, russians killed people in the car just outside of their house, then they took their bodies and burned them. in their private garden. now, they have vegetables there, flowers and two graves of people who they didn't even know. >> alex, you've actually been traveling from town to town. this is one of the things you do in addition to other things that you do as a member of parliament and a charity that you run.
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but there are so many towns and you've alluded to this on your twitter feed that we've not seen anything about because they're either still under russian attack or occupation. so when you're talking about kherson or mariupol, what are you hearing? >> about mariupol, we have testimonies of people who left mariupol who managed and who succeeded to leave the city. and what they're saying so horrific, the city and population is almost completely destroyed. just flattened. and they're saying about -- speaking about bucha, the number of victims, were counting them in hundreds. so in mariupol, we're counting them in thousands, in thousands, just in one city. quite a big city, but one. and really, we are scared to turn to just to open what has
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happened in mariupol. russians are still is there, they're still attacking the city under siege. troops are partly controlling the city and still fighting. what we do know, that one the ukrainians do trying to make -- was killed by russian troops two days ago. that's why we don't have enough information but we know that the situation there is absolutely awful. that is war crimes and that is genocide. because all of these people are civilians and they're killed for just being ukrainians. >> let's discuss that a little bit more. because you've been out there doubting it. president zelenskyy did say that the atrocities that he was there as well in bucha and saw were evidence of genocide against ukraine. the u.s. has said while it's possible that genocide has been committed, it's not ready yet to
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make that assessment. what do you say to those in world who are saying we believe this is genocide, we're not sure it's deliberate, the annihilation and killing of people because of who they are? >> unfortunately, in some time, they will say, yes, you are right. at the beginning, the russians will make this -- they will make it and also, okay, maybe they are exaggerating. but now watching these pictures of devasation and killings and now nobody have any -- you know, concerns about this and everybody understands what is going on. so, i think in some time, the genocide will be proved as a
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genocide. also, ukraine with the national criminal court prosecutors to work on this. and i think that all the work will be done, it will be absolutely clear that atrocities committed are genocide. >> alex, as you know, everybody in ukraine has these apps about air strike and things. there is information not far from where you are, close to the border that there have been strikes again tonight. what's the situation in southern ukraine where you are now? >> you see that i am now without light because it is just forbidden. and because we can be bombed. and it's better to not show light in the night. because the russians are continuing to bomb and missile attack ukrainian cities. for example, just yesterday,
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mykolaiv, one of the south cities of ukraine was again attacked. and the targets were a oncology hospital and a -- hospital. just imagine, as the russians are continuing this terror campaign throughout the whole country. that's why we so desperately need air defense and aircraft. we have succeeded to win the battle at kyiv which is extremely important. strategically important. and we want to go further. but what is our problem? the air. the russians still have advantage. and we hope with the help of the people, we will show with all of the pictures and horror, we will succeed to change the situation in air, too. >> alex, thank you for spending time with us again this evening. a member of the ukrainian parliament, documenting the
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atrocities. >> thank you very much. >> we'll talk to you again, alex. as alex gonacherenko just told us, the attacks it are live on hospitals. we're going to talk to a "washington post" reporter who is there, next. who is there, next your 995 plan fits my budget just right. excuse me? aren't you jonathan from tv, that 995 plan? yes, from colonial penn. i love your lifetime rate lock. that's what sold me. she thinks you're jonathan, with the 995 plan. -are you? -yes, from colonial penn. we were concerned we couldn't get coverage, but it was easy with the 995 plan. -thank you. -you're welcome. i'm jonathan for colonial penn life insurance company. this guaranteed acceptance whole life insurance plan is our #1 most popular plan. it's loaded with guarantees. if you're age 50 to 85,
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alive, quote, mothers with newborn babies, a woman with a heart condition and elderly people who couldn't walk on their own heardedly evacuated to the basement. they made it down to the shelter just in time. five minutes after patients and staff had crowned into the cramped underground hallway, a suspected cluster munition landed right next to the building. the blast shattered nearly all of the windows. it made for an eventful first night for bohdan who was born in the makeshift bomb shelter after his mother and others from the maternity ward made the most harrowing journey to safety from the top floor. the russians are animals, there's no other explanation. no one was injured in the attack. as nurses and volunteers moved from one ward to the next sweeping up broken glass, their feelings ranged from distress to anger. one staff member cried as she opened the door to what used to
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be her laboratory. the window glass was gone. gosh, can this end already, said a nurse. what did we even do? we never attacked anyone. that was on sunday. on monday, russians bombed yet another hospital in mykolaiv, doctors without borders went to visit the oncology hospital. by the afternoon, they were ducking from firing around the hospital. at least 82 russian attacks on health care services resulting in 72 deaths and 43 injuries. those are war crimes. russian troops have beentarget ed mykolaiv as they try to scape. one "washington post" reporter has been documenting the lives
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and deaths of ukrainians living under russian control and russian violence, reporting on the inhumanity, the brutality and the horror playing out across this country. joining us, a "washington post" foreign correspondent reporting from ukraine for the past 2 1/2 months. isabel, good to see you again, thank you for joining us. we just quoted from your reporting on the bombing of that hospital in mykolaiv, i need you to tell us more about this situation, how they continue to cope in this environment which unfortunately as you reported is becoming common across this country. >> yeah, i think, you know what really strikes me now when you go to the site of some of these bombings and attacks is just right away people have this kind of numbness that they start to clean up the scene. and when we got there, people, you know, volunteers and hospital staff were just sweeping up glass. and sweeping up areas that had
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been their offices, their wards. things of that sort. so, i think, you know, just kind of, these attacks happened. they expect them at this point. and right away, they start to clean up. i mean, the hospital got lucky that everyone was evacuated in time. and no one was seriously injured. one woman, you know, she had come to the hospital with a heart condition. i even said to her, i can't imagine this is good for your heart, the stress of this. she said, i'm too scared to stay here at the hospital. i'd rather go home. that's where that becomes heartbreaking even a hospital becomes, you know, unsafe. it's a place that ukrainians expect to be targeted. they're afraid to be there even if they need to be there for their health. >> there's something in your reporting was very similar to what richard engel had from bucha. you reported on the experiences
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of ukrainians living around the villages of mykolaiv, where russians were, they were asking them where the nazis live. i don't know whether this is something they're trying to get at. or whether this was part of the propaganda that the soldiers were given when they invaded ukraine. they're going around looking for nazis, they say. >> yeah, everyone we talk to said the russians were asking, where are the nazis? where are the -- you know, the group -- the ukrainian national group that was formed in world war ii. they were looking for people dressed in black. a lot of people in these areas these are small towns and villages about an hour northeast of mykolaiv that were occupied for about ten days, those people kind of looked at them as the russian soldiers and said, we have no people like that here, we don't know what you're talking about. and their impression was that,
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you know, those soldiers had been kind of, you know, brainwashed by this kremlin false propaganda that's been used to justify, you know, this unprovoked war. >> the russian troops are trying to make their way west along southern uk. and mykolaiv has been a point at which they've been stopped. they were planning to otherwise be in odesa. the beautiful port city of odesa, the biggest port in the country on the black sea. you have spent a lot of time reporting on odesa and it's where your parents were born. tell us what it's like, what it's like to be there, and how that port city is right now. everybody there is expecting the worst is yet to come? >> yeah, odesa, for most part, life has returned to normal, normal-ish, i guess as you can get in a war. there are still military
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checkpoints and heavy military presence. even the zoo is open nowadays. you know, salons are open. restaurants are open. at the same time, people know that's the prize for russia, right? and there were, you know, air strikes recently on the fuel depots there. i think people are nervous. i think they're kind of scared as this war appears to be shifting east itself. now, we're seeing mykolaiv come under much heavier attacks. i think there's kind of a push that people in mykolaiv are starting to feel where we're seeing more cluster munitions. more attacks in broad daylight that seem to be kind of purposely targeting civilians. so those people end up evacuating to odesa. as you mentioned, i have family from there. my family is from there. my great aunt is there. i remember the morning of the air strikes on the field depot, my great aunt was like, maybe
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you should leave. and obviously, that's not really how my job works. my job is to stay and document what happened. but it's a weird feeling there because on the surface, it looks very normal, but people are getting nervous as kind of it sees that that area is going to come into play soon. >> it is -- it's not just very hard, it's impossible to put your feelings aside as a journalist when you're covering a tore like this, but when you have your heart in because your family is actually that is a hell of a challenge, we thank you for living up to it and doing it. isabelle, we thank you for your time tonight. the key thing that ukraine's leaders say they need to fight russia is more weapons from the west. today, ukraine got good news from the u.s. but some members of congress say it's still not enough. congressman jason crow joins you
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next. and later, ivanka trump testified in front of the january 6th commission for nearly eight hours. we'll give you some details ahead. ead.
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today, we learned that the united states will soon be introducing a new weapon to the battlefield in ukraine, tank killing drones. the at station plans to send ukraine so-called switch blade 600 drones. check these out. part of a $300 million lethal
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military aid package. these are portable smart bombs that can destroy heavy armor like tanks and artillery from a distance. the 600 series of these droughns carry a stronger payload than these ones you're looking at, the low-cost switch blade 300 drones used for pinpoint strikes on enemy personnel. both types of drones are equipped with cameras. they can be programmed to strike targets miles away. the biden administration announced last month it would provide ukraine with 100 of these less deadly drones. also tonight, the u.s. reporting reporting sending $100 million worth of javelin anti-tank missiles to ukraine. it's a weapon that the ukrainian troops have used by efficiency against tanks. also announced that the czech republic a nato ally has been quietly sending ukraine old soviet-designed tanks which ukrainian forces are trained to use. that marks the first time that a
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foreign country has provided ukraine with tanks since the beginning of the war. despite the new weapons, some u.s. lawmakers are still calling on the biden administration to do a lot more. 44 house members from the armed services committee, intelligence and foreign affairs committees as well as the bipartisan ukraine caucus have signed this letter, making highly specific weapons requests that they say are needed to help ukraine defend its airspace, counterrussian naval attacks and increase its capability on the ground. one of the people behind that letter is democratic congressman jason crow. today during the budget hearing, he pressed secretary lloyd austin how the u.s. plans to keep up the support of ukraine war as it evolves. >> can you just very briefly mr. secretary, talk about how should our support evolve, as this goes from a short-term fight, us providing things that are needed and can be used now on the battlefield torsion transitioning to a longer-term
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fight like the national security adviser indicated yesterday, how does that change the nature of our support? >> we continue to look at what we think, and we don't think, we know the ukrainians will need. because we're talking to them on a daily basis. and it will be a lot of the same things that we provided already. but we look for things that can also provide them an advantage in this fight. >> joining us now is the democratic colorado congressman jason crow member of both the armed services and intelligence committees. he has served as an army ranger in iraq and afghanistan. congressman, thank you for your time, thank you for joining us. we're just learned that the biden administration will send another $100 million of very effective anti-javelin tank missiles. our first guest told us russian long-range attacks on these civilian populations are the reasons why ukraine so
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desperately need anti-aircraft defense, more than anti-tank defense. you've also made that argument. is the u.s. going to do it? >> yeah, i think the united states is going to do it. i want to make something very clear, the biden administration has done a remarkable job of providing a vast array of defensive weapons and materiel to present to the ukrainians in a very short period of time. there's a couple of reasons why ukrainians are having as much success on the battlefield that they are. one is they're fierce fighters, fighting for their live and freedom, they're doing a great job. the other thing is we're giving them 20th century weapons. and the third we've been training them since 2014, to actually bring them to the battlefield in the fight that they are now. the administration has done a great job. but wars change and wars evolve. this war has changed and
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evolved. the russians have adapted. they're shifting their tactics. they're shifting their location so ours has to adapt. with us saying they haven't done enough, we're saying the next phase will require an evolution, a change in both the quantity and speed of the support we provide. >> congressman, you're an army ranger, you served in afghanistan and iraq, so you know the consequences of this. how do you balance the ukrainian request for more assistance, some of which, particularly with air defenses, russia will take to be an act of war from nato. how do you separate those things? because people warn if you do that, you end up in world war iii. you end up in a direct war with russia a hot war that then could involve nuclear weapons. tell me how you think about this. >> yes. how i think about it is, we're not going to implement a no-fly zone. that would require u.s. fighter jets shooting down russian
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fighter jets over the ukrainian skies. we're not going to send nato or u.s. troops to fight on the ground in russia. short of those things there are many things we can do, we can pretty much provide those things they're asking for over some period of time. we don't do it right now. they have the logistics, to sustain it the supply line, and they have to be trained on those systems and we have to make sure that u.s. systems do not fall in the hands of russians or captured either. they've provided a list, united states has, prioritized one through 17, top items on the list things that they need and implement right now to put into effect on the battlefield today. as you go down that list, this is longer term things, fighter jets, tanks, other material that contain supply lines, some things that they don't have.
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but the administration is recognized, what is happening now the ukrainians have to fight now and they have to transition to a longer term fight as the russians dig in and look at kind of a war attrition over a longer period of time. we have to do both. ukrainians understand that. and our need has to be on the balance, both on the short and long term. >> it's hard to think of the long term when you see the images that we watched of these atrocities, we appreciate people like you with real experience on the battlefield and understand how to discuss them. democratic congressman jason crow is a member of the armed services committee. up next, ivanka trump who was in the room with her father on january 6th, testified for nearly eight hours today. what investigators may have learns, next. arns, next stay asleep longer, and wake up refreshed.
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today, ivanka trump testified before the january 6th investigation for roughly eight hours behind closed doors. that's about two more hours than her husband jared kushner gave the committee last week. unlike her husband who was returning from a trip to saudi arabia january 6, ivanka trump was actually in the room as it happened that as the attack was unfolding. keith kellogg who served as mike spence's national security
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adviser told investigators that ivanka trump was present in that office that day and overheard a late morning phone call in which her father tried to pressure mike fence from stopping the electoral certification a few hours later. according to multiple accounts, multiple officials reached out to ivanka trump to try to get her to get her father to call off the riot. documents detail how ivanka trump made multiple unsuccessful attempts to get her father to stop the attack hours passed without any action from him. there's some indication that investigators might have actually got answers from ivanka trump today. this was the january 6th investigation chair bennie thompson talking with nbc news outside the hearing. >> she answered questions i mean, you know, not in broad, chatty terms. but she's answering questions. >> has she invoked the 5th? >> not that i'm aware. >> or any other privilege or
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executive live? >> not that i'm aware. >> okay. that would seem to imply that ivanka trump is one of the more cooperative witnesses from donald trump's inner circle. some other allies that stone walled by invoking executive privilege or pleading the fifth is also forthcoming. the committee chairman said his committee will likely not subpoena the former vice president mike pence for testimony saying they've got enough information from his aide who already testified. thompson appeared to rule out calling the former president himself as a witness. but they did apparently want roughly eight hours of testimony from the president's daughter. so just what are the investigators learning from ivanka trump? and what does it mean that she is in fact answering questions. joining me now is nbc news justice reporter ryan riley who first broke the news that ivanka trump will be testifying before the january 6th investigation today. ryan, good to see you.
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tell me what you make of the idea that ivanka trump, according to bennie thompson who has no reason to lie to us about this is neither invoking executive privilege nor the fifth amendment? do you make anything of that? >> no, i think it fits into the broader theme we saw throughout the trump administration where ivanka trump and jared kushner tried to make themselves out to be the reasonable people in the room and saying they were trying to push trump in the right direction. it became -- in the trump administration where we saw every decision that the trump administration made that was unpopular with the broader masses may have been unpopular in other sections. this sort of seems like an ongoing theme here. because january 6 is now this monumental event that's shaping the entire trump presidency, i think it's clear that she has to make clear she was the reasonable voice in the room. she has to get that narrative
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out that there, or else it's going to bring her brand down along with her father's. >> tell me how she does that without throwing him under the bus. the argument i'm the adult in the room means someone else wasn't the adult in the room. the binary was maybe that ivanka trump was trying to get him to call it off. >> it's difficult to believe that ivanka trump believed the things about the stolen election. she's younger, she's savvy, college educated, probably a lot less conservative than her father. it's tough to imagine we're in a situation where she actually believed the lies that the president was spreading which is what makes her testimony so important. the critical thing here is whether or not donald trump actually believes the lies he's telling about the stolen election. that's a critical component of this especially for the justice department investigation where that's a critical component to the broader investigation and
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criminal culpability, ultimately. if he actually believed the lies about the stolen election, that's a lot different than just saying these things than trying to make a splashy change in that direction. to basically steal the election. if he knew there were lies, that's one thing, but if he actually believed the lies, that's another thing that could determine the trajectory of the criminal side of the investigation. >> there are a whole lot of people that would like the answer to exactly what you just framed. chairman thompson has indicated that the committee is not calling either donald trump or mike pence as witnesses. is that something that the whole committee is on board with? because there are a whole bunch of americans who might not be on board with that idea. >> i think based on the investigation that the committee is running here, they've interviewed over 800 people. they have a really wide view of this entire situation. and go to areas that the fbi and doj really can't. because there's no criminal issue at matter.
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they have this wide ranging investigation where the doj is more limited. and i think if they have, essentially what happened with pence without getting his testimony because they have testimony from his close aides. really, they have a really comprehensive view of this. it sort of speaks to the fact we could get the full picture, the full story from this committee, rather than doj or fbi where we're going to get he'll things or we'll get it when it implicates violation of federal law. >> i'm grateful that you're here. it always blows my mind how much you know about this. it's a lot of work and papers anddocuments that committee is going through. ryan riley, we appreciate your time. coming up, things looked very familiar at the white house today. stay with us. we'll tell you what that's about.
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i heard some changes have been made. by the current president, since i was last here. apparently secret service agents have to wear aviator glasses now. president barack obama paid his first visit to the white house in five years today and it wasn't just to tell jokes. today, president biden signed an executive order that fixed a glitch in the affordable care act, lowering health care premiums for more than 1 million people and allowing another 200,000 uninsured americans to get coverage. today was sort of a victory lap
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for both presidents, passing the affordable care act. 12 years ago was of course, the signature accomplishment of the administration or as biden famously whispered to obama when obama signed the aca 12 years ago not realizing he could still be heard by the microphone, the aca was a big bleeping deal. >> and today, the aca hasn't just survived it's pretty darn popular. and the reason is because it's done what it was supposed to do. it's made a difference. the first 20 million and now 30 million people have gotten coverage thanks to the aca. ful you can get millions of people health care and better protection it is to quote a famous american a pretty -- big deal.
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>> and indeed a major step toward what could ultimately become the universality of health care, something that the united states continues to struggle with is a very big deal, indeed. that does it for us tonight. "way too early with jonathan lemire" is up next. ♪♪ the president of ukraine addresses the u.n. security council and described in graphic details the horrors against civilians in bucha. he compared russia's war crimes to isis. and challenged the u.n. to act or dissolve itself. this morning, the new sanctions from the u.s. and western allies and a warning from america's top general that this war could last years. plus, the other headlines we're following this morning. another republican house member who voted to impeach donald trump announces his retirement. a challenge to iowa's first in the nation voting