tv Hallie Jackson Reports MSNBC April 7, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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more with one democratic senator coming up in just a minute. plus news in just this afternoon from the january 6 committee where sources telling nbc about whether the committee will call donald trump to testify and what exactly we're just hearing from the manhattan district attorney about that criminal investigation into the former president. and spoiler, it's still happening. we've got more on that later in the show. i'm hallie jackson in washington along with our nbc news team. garrett haake is on capitol hill. shannon pettypiece is covering the white house. pete williams is our justice correspondent. and we're joined by kimberly adkins dore, senior opinion writer and columnist for the "boston globe" and an msnbc political analyst. and we will start with history being made here in washington. garrett, to you. on the floor of the senate here on this april afternoon with the first black woman ever in the history of this country confirmed to the supreme court. >> yeah, hallie, i think back to his attention-grabbing speech during the confirmation hearings when cory booker said on the day this vote happened it would be a joyful day. and you heard that joy on the senate floor from congressional
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democrats, from the folks in the gallery, from members of the congressional black caucus who came over to watch this historic vote take place. and it broke down as we expected it would with three republicans crossing over to join all democrats. a little bit of drama from one missing senator, one rand paul, who was a bit late to attend the vote. but everything else played out as expected. and for democrats this is a huge win. this is the biggest thing they have passed through either chamber since this year started really, since the infrastructure bill. they wanted to do it by easter. they wanted to do it in a bipartisan way. and they accomplished both those goals. >> and shannon -- excuse me. we heard reaction from the vice president after she left the floor. here's what she said. >> i'm overjoyed, deeply moved. you know, there's so much about what's happening in the world now that is presenting some of the worst of this moment and
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human behaviors. and then we have a moment like this that i think reminds us that there is still so much yet to accomplish and that we can accomplish, including a day like today that is so historic and so important for so many reasons. and i do believe it's a very important statement about who we are as a nation, that we have just made a decision to put this extraordinary jurist on the highest court of our land. it's a good statement about who we are. thank you all. >> i imagine, shannon, that's a bit of a preview of what we'll hear from the vice president tomorrow, president biden, judge jackson, who will all be at the white house as they continue to celebrate this historic moment. >> yeah. this is obviously an enormous moment for any president, particularly though president biden who was on the judiciary committee for three decades, who has overseen a number of supreme court nominations and confirmations and now getting his moment to put his stamp on
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the court. we do not expect to hear from the president today about this, but the white house has indicated they're going to hold an event tomorrow in the rose garden marking this occasion. if you think back two months ago to what democrats were saying at the time, this was supposed to be a moment when democrats could really remind their base, this is why you put us in office. this is why you elected a democrat to the white house. this is why you have democrats in control of the senate, for a moment like this. and of course we are getting months away from those midterm elections. democrats hope to use this again as a moment to remind voters of that once again and the priority and particularly democratic strategists say among black voters and black female voters, to try and juice a little enthusiasm among that group. if you look at polling numbers, has really dropped off in the past few months. i will note, though, hallie, this all comes as we're seeing a bit of a covid outbreak in washington including at the white house and in the president's inner circle. the white house appears to be going on as business as usual.
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they are going to have this event on friday. it will be outdoors. there continues to be testing of people around the president. but i know you and i are old enough to remember the last time we had a supreme court rose garden event that turned into a covid superspreader moment. that's also sort of an underlying issue that the white house and administration is having to grapple with at this moment. >> shannon, stand by. garrett, you too. pete, let me go to you. it's snack time, whoever's alarm just went off. key cases judge jackson is going to be considering. looking ahead to next term. once she is sworn in, which hasn't happened yet. won't happen till june or july. there is some serious stuff in front of the court coming up. >> right. and the biggest case next term may be one in which she doesn't participate and that's a challenge to affirmative action and college admissions. the case comes from harvard. now, she's a harvard grad but so are a lot of other members of the court. more to the point, she's on a board that oversees policy for harvard. and she said in her confirmation hearing she might recuse or she
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said she planned to recuse from that case. there's a second case involving an issue that the supreme court has ducked for years, and that is do religiously oriented businesses have a right, a religious right to disregard laws in their states against discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation. there will be cases on congressional redistricting and voting rights. there's a case involving an andy warhol paintings that once again ask the supreme court to look at how transformative a work of art has to be before it doesn't violate a copyright. so those are just some of the cases that will come up. now, she will have an advantage. she'll have the whole summer to prepare for these cases. and that's something that the other justices that are on the court didn't have. many of the most recent arrivals at the court came after a summer of confirmation hearings and then their appointment to the court, and they had to sort of catch up in a hurry. she'll have basically all of july, august, and september to
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get ready for the first monday in october. >> and pete, i notice you were careful to call her still judge and not justice because she is not a justice just yet. >> she's not yet. she won't be tomorrow, even if the event at the white house turns out to be one where she takes the constitutional oath. that's 2/3 of the way to the finish line. but she still has to take the judicial oath. and that can't be administered until there's a vacancy on the court, and that won't happen until stephen breyer steps down at the end of this term. now, this is an unusual overlap, several months between the time she's actually confirmed and the president signs her commission and when she gets the mickey mouse ears and can actually step onto the supreme court as a full justice. there have been these little overlaps in the past. there have been five of them, according to the supreme court historical society. but they've only been a matter of days. the longest one was 14 days in 1969 when warren berger took over for earl warren as the
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chief justice. so this is another way that ketanji brown jackson is making history here. >> garrett, can i go back to you for a second? and this is just a bit of minutia, i guess, but can you help us close the loop on what happened to rand paul, why we were waiting around for a fairly long time to see him vote and close this out? >> i have only part of the answer to that, and that is that he was not present on capitol hill when the vote was called. now, it's not unusual for votes to go much longer than advertised. most senate votes are technically supposed to be 15 minutes. sometimes they last for hours. but in many cases that's because votes can be added at the last minute. it's not always clear when they'll be scheduled. this is a case where we, the senators, anyone who paid close enough attention to want to know knew that this vote would be happening at 1:45 today and it was well after 2:00 when rand paul's car pulled up outside what we call the carriage entrance off the seventh floor to deposit him ever so briefly to vote in what appeared to be his street clothes, and then he was off again. so far his office is not responding to e-mails, texts or visits from our friendly producers to see where he was or
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what he was doing when he was expected on the senate floor. >> they are the friendliest producers. i can attest to that. and i should say, and i'm going to blow up your spot because you've been on camera for this but our colleague leigh ann caldwell who i think was in the room was saying apparently because rand paul was not wearing a tie he couldn't actually enter the chamber. same with lindsey graham. they had to vote from the cloak room? >> you see that from time to time, especially on fly out days like this one where lawmakers may be going directly from the last vote of the day to their airplanes back home. not terribly unusual. not exactly the decorum you'd expect to see on a supreme court vote. >> garrett and shannon and pete, thank you so much for your reporting here on this important afternoon. kimberly, let me go to you. and let me start here because i don't want to lose this thread. the sweeping significance of this moment, of ketanji brown jackson being confirmed to the supreme court. >> it is a monumentous moment. we have had a history where 108 white men had ascended to this
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court before her, sort of creating i think in many people's minds the idea of what a supreme court justice is supposed to look like. and so i think in this three months that she has before she actually comes to the bench it's a wonderful opportunity for her to prepare and also to enjoy this moment, this making of history, this taking a small step to make this court a little more representative to the country as a whole. introducing herself to the american people so that they can enjoy and be proud of this moment too. when i went to law school, there was no black justice for me to look up to. there was no woman of color at all. sonia sotomayor ascended to the bench after i had already been a practicing lawyer, left the law and was a journalist. so for so many other people in this generation who look up to people, who want to see themselves represented in order for themselves to know what they can be, this is an important moment. and so i hope that these three months extends that time and gives everyone a chance to do a victory lap, not just soon to be
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justice jackson but all of the americans according to polling who support her. there are a lot of them. this is a great moment. >> you know, and not lost either about the significance of vice president harris presiding over the vote too. >> 100%. 100%. these are spaces that black women have not been able to occupy and now they do. >> let me talk to you about the political backdrop to this. this was a technically bipartisan vote. it was 53-47. right? three republicans joining democrats. what it was not was overwhelmingly bipartisan. there was never any expectation that it would be. right? but it continues the trend that we're seeing, kimberly, of these mostly partisan confirmations. you look at previous presidencies where nominees got widespread support. does it feel to you like those days are long gone? >> unfortunately, yes. the supreme court has been politically weaponized in a way in recent years that it's really hard to see how you can fall back to where it used to be when an antonin scalia, someone who
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was decidedly conservative, founder of the federalist society, could not -- could get confirmed unanimously. even sonia sotomayor, who spoke this week about the racism she's felt throughout her career, still got a somewhat lopsided vote. now everything is divided down party lines. you saw republicans talking about how qualified at the timen ji brown jackson is but still sorry, can't vote for her. that's just really sad for americans. the job of the senate is supposed to be to advise and consent. and if the nominee is qualified then that should be the end of the story. but here it's not. the politics are involved. i'm not sure what it takes to fix that broken system. i think the politics of the senate are spilling over into this politics of the court, which is also unfortunate. i wish there is a hope for a solution to turn it around because it's bad for our country, bad for democracy. >> you make an interesting point that we are seeing an erosion of public trust in the institution of the supreme court itself, you
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this new discussion. a top ukrainian military official is saying russia will soon reattack kyiv they predict and try to take over those two eastern areas currently controlled by russian-backed separatists. ukrainians are getting ready for that as mariupol's mayor estimates more than 5,000 civilians have been killed in that city alone, just in mariupol alone. secretary of state tony blinken calling some of the images of war that we've seen sickening. after meeting with g7 and nato counterparts today saying these images have only strengthened our collective resolve. it's happening as the u.n. suspends russia from the human rights council and the senate is unanimously passing bills banning russian oil imports and revoking permanent normal trade relations with both russia and belarus. nbc's ali arouzi is live for us now in lviv, ukraine. nbc's courtney kube is posted up at the pentagon. and ali, let me play a little bit from that interview now with dmitri peskov, who was talking with sky news. watch. >> we have significant losses of troops, and it's a huge tragedy for us. >> he says it's a huge tragedy
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for us. to this point russia has not acknowledged much about the loss of troops as we've heard more about the uk yain resistance, the fact this resistance as courtney knows according to defense officials has seemed to have driven russia out of kyiv for now. yet we still have what's happening in mariupol. we are seeing what is happening as the russians retreat. tell us more about what we know. >> that's right, hallie. and things are getting even worse in mariupol with every passing day. as you mentioned, the mayor of mariupol said that 5,000 people had died there. 200 of those he says at least are children that have died in mariupol. and the foreign minister was saying bucha was just the tip of the iceberg, what's going to come out of mariupol is much worse. and he went into a lot more detail. he was talking about the locations the russians have bombed, hospitals, maternity wards, these sort of things. he said in one wing of the main hospital the russians bombed it and 50 people were burnt alive in that hospital.
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and as you know, nobody can get in. they can't get in the humanitarian aid. only a trickle of people come out. about 1,000 people made it out today on their own. and you know, they're risking it in their own private cars, trying to get out of mariupol. and every person we speak to, every account we hear from mariupol, paints a really horrifying picture of what's going on in that city, which is much bigger than bucha. you know, peskov in that interview said he wants to liberate that city from nationalists. by that he means the azov brigade. so it looks like they're going to be in for a really hard time for the foreseeable future. we spoke to one lady who managed to escape mariupol about two weeks ago. let's take a listen to her account. >> translator: when by the roadside you see cars belonging to civilians and those cars are riddled with bullets and mangled, it means that they had been trying to escape and they were just shot. it's eerie to see them by the roadside. i was so scared when leaving the
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place. it was painful and eerie to see it all. >> reporter: clearly from her account, hallie, you can see the civilians are being targeted. those were civilian cars that they were riddling with bullets. and that nightmare doesn't end for this lady. she's managed to go to odesa to stay with her daughter. we spoke to her again today. she said she doesn't feel safe in odesa. she thinks that might be the next target for the russians because it's such a strategic place. and she says she's stocked up on supplies, she's filled up her car with petrol, ready to run from odesa, and she finished by saying "i don't know if my nerves would take escaping from another city in such a short period of time again." >> ali arouzi, it's so important to hear these voices and to hear these stories. thank you very much for being with us. courtney, let he m turn to you because we know what the ukrainians want, what the members of the ukrainian government want, and that is weapons. weapons, weapons, weapons. we're going to talk about that more later in the show. talk about the latest assessment from the pentagon, from the biden administration about what else the west can do to help and
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to hold russia accountable. >> so on holding russia accountable we heard very clearly from secretary of state tony blinken earlier today when he said the u.s. is working, quote, methodically. he says they are working to preserve, to collect and to analyze evidence of war crimes and that they are working with other members, other allies to do something to be able to hold russia accountable for the kinds of atrocities we just heard ali strike in the earlier segment. in addition to that on the weapons, yes, the ukrainian government continues to talk to the united states and to other allies about providing them with more equipment. one of the issues, the reasons that this is so complex, was also laid out by secretary blinken earlier today. it's a very dynamic situation. trying to get them the equipment that they need as they run out of things, as the situation continues to evolve. here's what secretary blinken had to say about that. >> we continue to provide -- but
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it's also a constantly evolving picture. they are coming up -- they are coming forward with new systems that they think that would be helpful and effective. we put our own expertise to bear. so it is an ongoing process. >> so and why this is so dynamic is literally playing out today and probably over the next couple of days, hallie. and that is that because the russian offensive, what we have seen happen over the last 40-plus days is really evolving. so they had these three axes up toward kyiv in the east and in the south down toward crimea and the just devastating situation and battle ongoing in mariupol. well, the belief is that the russians are going to consolidate their efforts into the east and into the southeast. that being said, most likely the offensive, while it would be more consolidated, we'll likely see much more of a russian effort in one area, it's still going to likely be the same kind of threat that the ukrainian military faces. so what that means is continued
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russian cruise missile strikes. strikes from the air. long-range artillery fire. in many cases probably given the area that this next offensive is going to be in coming from inside russia, targeting locations inside southeastern ukraine. as the russian military is refitting, is resetting, is getting ready for this next phase, the ukrainian military needs to do the same thing. they need to reset themselves and be ready for this next phase. so we will likely see in the coming days even more weapons, military aid flowing into the ukrainian military, hallie. >> courtney kube live for us there at the pentagon. courtney, thank you. great reporting. appreciate it. coming up, we've got some new reporting in from the january 6 committee. what sources are telling our team about a possible interview with them and former president trump. don't miss that. plus, our nbc news scoop, going inside mr. trump's finances. a look at the kind of obscure online-only bank that's lending him money now that all the big banks have cut ties. that's coming up. ties. that's coming up you're probably thinking that these two are
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interview with former president donald trump, according to a source familiar with the matter. i want to bring in nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali who's following this for us. it's been an interesting day of developments because chairman bennie thompson said earlier i think to politico and others that yes, they will be talking about the likelihood of calling in donald trump for an interview. whether or not he does, right? is separate. then it was like, well, maybe they won't. but then a source on the committee tells us yes, they're looking at it. help us understand. >> look, it kind of sounds like this is something that we always wondered if it was on the table, and what today does is confirm that it is on the table. >> it is, yeah. >> beyond that, though, it's sort of an open question because as you and i have followed every twist and turn of this we know what has happened when the committee tried to get to the people who are closest to trump. a lot of them have not complied. but this also comes after a series of weeks here where you've had the committee successfully speak to, for more than six hours apiece, jared and ivanka trump. and that is critical when you think about the optics of this
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investigation in terms of what those people said to the committee. we don't know the specifics, but we do know those are two people who have been close confidants of the president. ivanka trump specifically someone who many other people who testified in front of the committee said they believed that she was one of the only people who could have reasoned with her father on january 6th to do something to stop the violence. and now of course we're hearing from the chairman and others that this potential for going after a trump interview is on the table. what's notable is this also comes as trump did an interview with the "washington post" where he said that it depends what the request is in terms of whether he would comply or testify with the january 6th committee. you and i have covered trump long enough, though, to know that when it comes to the law and the courts he is someone who sort of sees that as the pinnacle. he does a lot on the legal front to try to not have to sit in front of a court, not have to sit under oath. but at the same time it would be interesting to see if this is where it went.
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this has sort of been the looming question over the entire january 6 committee's work is if this was going to end up with trump, whether it was testifying in front of the committee or going further than that, trying to refer criminal charges. we've heard that question asked before, and i pose it to committee members regularly. but now we're getting into the point in this where they want to move to public hearings, they're trying to wrap up depositions, they've gotten some big names to talk to them, and this is one of the few questions left. >> and the former president alluded to this a little bit in an interview with the "washington post," yeah? >> yeah, exactly. he said that it depends on what the ask was but sort of left the door open or half closed the door, depending on how you want to look at it in terms of if he would comply with the committee. and that interview was interesting for a few other reasons too, because you and i talk about that seven-hour gap in call logs. and trump said to the "washington post" was for him it wasn't from the standpoint of
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phone calls, i don't remember getting many. of course we know he was having phone conversations. the committee has testimony to that effect as well. and it's the other question here that remains a loose threat, which is some of those lawmakers on the republican side who we know spoke with the president on that day, are they going to do more than just ask them to come in? are they going to subpoena them? and that's something they're going to have to answer soon too. >> ali vitali live for us with a couple moving parts on capitol hill as it relates to january 6. thank you. more moving parts as relates to the former president with some movement on a lot of fronts. the manhattan district attorney just in the last couple minutes here, really the last hour, trying to lay out and set the table on where his investigation stands. alvin bragg said in a statement that his team is, yes, still investigating the trump organization, saying "in recent weeks the manhattan district attorney's office has been repeatedly asked whether our investigation concerning him, the trump org, its leadership is continuing, saying simply it is." after reports last month the case seemed like it was falling apart, some prosecutors were
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even quitting. also today, the new york attorney general letitia james who's leading a separate investigation now asking the judge to hold the former president in civil contempt over his push to stonewall her tax fraud case against him and his business. by the way, not only does she want him in contempt, she wants the judge to make him pay $10,000 every day until he complies. they're looking for documents and records like file cabinets and post-it notes that the a.g.'s office says the former president used to communicate with employees. we should note the trump organization has denied wrongdoing in this investigation with the company telling us "they're aon track to meet an april 15th deadline to turn over relevant documents." nbc's tom winter is following this for us. the statement from the manhattan d.a. caught my eye because it kind of came out of nowhere in that these reports have been out several weeks ago and all of a sudden hereby drops in everybody's in box this statement that says oh yes, like we are still investigating, we just can't talk about it. >> right. i think there had been a lot of pressure being put on the
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manhattan district attorney's office and alvin bragg as to what is actually going on in this investigation. and you mentioned the departure of two high-profile prosecutors involved in this care, one of them them them from nearly the beginning, one of them involved in that supreme court fight that led to two wins for the district attorney's office in being able to get the former president's tax returns. so a lot of people were asking questions, and we're coming into a period of time here where the grand jury that was sitting and was listening to evidence into the end of last year and into the beginning of this year, their term. they don't sit in perpetuity. so they have a certain amount of time that they're sitting on the grand jury. that time was coming up, and a lot of reporters were starting to ask the question is this thing really over? and the manhattan district attorney in that statement, two things came up that i thought was interesting, hallie. first saying that they were exploring new evidence, previously unreviewed evidence as part of this what they call ongoing investigation. and on top of that that they will say at some point whether or not they intend to move
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forward with future indictments including potentially the former president himself or they decide to decline to issue any further or seek any further indictments and effectively wrap up the case. so we will know when this is over one way or the other. that's new information here today. as far as the other revelation that we heard about today or the new filing, this is over a fight that had been part of whether or not trump would be deposed, hallie. this idea of whether or not he should turn over these documents the judge ordered that he would need to. now trump's attorneys have raised issues with that. the a.g.'s office says no, no, no, not so fast. the judge already determined that you've got to turn those documents over to us. they gave you a time to do it. you haven't done it. now you say that those documents would probably be with the company and not with the former president. by the way, you haven't detailed to us exactly what type of searching you've done to make sure that those statements are
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accurate. and obviously, the trump organization saying look, we looked for them, we don't have them, and by the way, we've got some issues with the request in the first place. all this will be determined by a judge. obviously $10,000 a day is pretty steep for anybody as far as a potential fine. my guess is this will all be resolved before money exchanges hands. but the a.g.'s office not letting their foot off the legal throat of the president's team at this point. >> tom winter, thank you. nbc news taking a deeper dive into the firm that's now bankrolling the trump organization. with the days of big banks doing business with the former president long gone. axos financial is a kind of obscure internet-only bank, not really known for its deals with multimillion-dollar companies. you'll remember bigger banks like deutsch signature cut ties with the trump organization earlier last year after the january 6th insurrection. so apparently the trump org has turned to axos and our new reporting goes in depth on some of that firm's business practices. joining us now is nbc news's senior financial reporter gretchen morgason.
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great reporting. thanks for being here to talk about it. explain a little about what it is about axos that sets it apart from the jpmorgans or wells fargos of the world. >> sure, hallie. jpmorgan and wells fargo are much bigger banks than axos. axos, as you said in the outset, sort of an obscure bank. it was founded only in 2000 and it was founded as you mentioned as an online-only bank. their assets are about 15 billion. jpmorgan is 3 trillion. so we're talking a very small bank. it's located in san diego and las vegas. so it's the left coast, the west coast. so what is also different about this bank is some of the loans that it has chosen to make. we reported about a year and a half ago in the height of covid about this bank was teaming up with some very high-cost lenders who are not banks but who loan to small businesses and charge
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them really astronomical rates of interest. and it had made it extremely difficult for these small business people to continue operating. and so that was one element of this bank's business that other banks just won't touch. the bank also does business with foreign nationals. and it also has offered a type of loan that allows people who are paying 100% cash for a property to immediately turn around and borrow to cash out some of that investment. and banking analysts told me that those are kinds of questions that you could have about money laundering. so it's an interesting bank. it is certainly not like a lot of the other bigger names that you mentioned. >> there's a lot in that reporting too, gretchen, including some details on multiple lawsuits against the company, against axos for wrongful termination. i commend folks to read it.
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it is on nbcnews.com. gretchen morgenson, it's great to see you on the show. thank you very much for bringing us this great scoop. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> still ahead this hour, another republican-led state has just banned trans girls from playing on female sports teams. how activists there plan to fight it. but first, we're live on capitol hill with democratic senator chris murphy on the war in ukraine and today's supreme court confirmation. this historic moment. next. c moment next
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women from? and protect women from. why isn't she worth saving? why isn't she worth protecting? >> others shared similar stories with one mom saying she's even thought about moving out of state to protect her child. joining me now is a reporter for abc. explain specifically what is in this bill, this law. how are activists, family members and others trying to fight this? >> yeah. so the bill bars trans student athletes from playing on the school sports teams of their gender identity, and it uses the phrase "biological sex." so it requires people to participate on the team of their birth sex. activists say that this legislation is discriminatory and that it's really aimed at targeting mostly trans women and girls in particular. betsy colton who has a 7-year-old trans daughter told nbc that she's considering leaving the state completely if more restrictive laws are passed. and the state is also likely to face legal action because a federal judge blocked a similar law from taking effect in west
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virginia in july. >> can you talk about what other states have passed or are working on passing similar laws? we have had folks on the show even as recently as this week who have talked about the broad attack as they see it on lgbtq plus kids in this country. >> yeah. so an nbc news analysis found that lawmakers have proposed 238 bills just this year that seek to limit the rights of lgbtq americans and half of those target transgender people specifically. and 14 states total now ban transgender athletes from participating on the sports teams that align with their gender identity. so this is really part of a nationwide trend, like you mentioned. >> when you look at the polling on this, you've got polling from late last month i believe it was, says that nearly half of american adults oppose trans students from playing on a sports team that matched their gender identity. when you break it down by party, i think we can show it here. it shows that more than 50% of democrats support trans athletes playing on the gender of the sports team they identify with. 75% of republicans oppose this. it's not surprising i think to see it break down on party
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lines, jo, and i wonder if that matches the reporting that you've been doing. >> yeah, it definitely matches. and i think that also is because, you know, when people don't know a transgender person they're more likely to be susceptible to misinformation or to things that aren't exactly accurate. and we're talking about trans athletes. that's what we're seeing from some republicans, is that the republican party is really capitalizing unfortunately on people not knowing about trans people. >> jo yurcaba, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back with democratic senator chris murphy right after the break. after the. ] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. it's hard to picture the future when you're not sure how to get there. it's more like...a feeling. a free plan from fidelity can help you prioritize the moments that are important to you. and see them alongside your full financial picture. the big ones. the ones that really matter.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ back on capitol hill, we've been covering big votes taking place, action against russia as well as, of course, as the big headline of the day, the historic confirmation of judge ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. all of it happening in the last couple hours. let's zero in on the ukraine piece of this because officials are make it clear they need more military help and fast. with the ukrainian foreign affairs minister telling nato members, my agenda is simple, three items -- weapons, weapons, and weapons. with me is democratic senator chris murphy from connecticut.
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good afternoon. thanks for being back on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> talk about what's next for congress in supporting ukraine. you hear what the foreign minister says, weapons, weapons, weapons. they're clear about what they want. >> yeah. they're clear about what they want because they're winning. ukraine is winning the war against everyone's best guesses. russia is on its heels. the battle for kyiv is over. and in order to keep russia moving backwards, ukraine needs to be resupplied. congress has authorized about $14 billion of aid for ukraine, about half of that military assistance, so we're going to continue to flow small arms and javelin missiles into ukraine. but there are some systems that the united states doesn't have. for instance, our anti-missile systems are not really interoperable with what ukraine has, so on some of those more expansive and expensive and complicated systems, we need partners in europe to get their systems into ukraine, countries like slovakia, for instance, so
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that becomes a little more of a complicated endeavor, especially when those countries feel under threat for russia, so they're not exactly eager with weapons to ukraine. we're working on this every single day. we all hear minister and we're clear. >> let me ask you about the sky news interview with vladimir putin's spokesperson. he says the russian military has suffered, quote, significant losses. as you well know, we hear very little, right, about russian troop losses in this war, but dmitry peskov doesn't say anything unless vladimir putin wants him to say it. what's your assessment of this acknowledgment? >> i don't think there's any way around ultimately publicly acknowledging what we all know. they have taken extraordinary losses. they have lost more soldiers in three weeks of fighting than united states did through the entirety of the afghanistan and iraq war.
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this has been catastrophic. and this is getting to the point where the putin regime has to message an explanation back home. i mean, russian mothers and fathers have lost sons in this war at a dizzying rate. so burying that, trying to pretend it doesn't exist i think is very difficult for him domestically never mind internationally. this is going to be really hard for putin to explain to the people of russia as they are asked to bear all of the costs of this war, both in terms of lives and treasury. this is going to be a political problem for putin back home. >> i want to switch gears and ask you about the supreme court. they've been pushing for cold of conduct. i want to give you an opportunity to tell me what it was like to be on the floor as this historic moment unfolded with the confirmation of judge jackson. >> i just coincidentally got the chance to walk out of the chamber after the vote with
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representative -- excuse me, senator warner. i said this is one of those rare moment where is we just clicked the gears of history forward and it's never coming back. it just felt incredibly heavy, historic on the floor today, and having got the chance to spend a little bit of time with judge jackson, she's excellent. regardless of her status as a historic figure, she's going to be a really great jurist on the court. >> let me give you a chance before i have to go. you've introduced this bill to basically call for a code of conduct for the supreme court. level best, do you think that's realistically going to come up for a vote anytime soon? >> it's difficult because given all the controversy around justice thomas, republicans feel this is political, i've had this bill for ten years, makes no sense that every single federal judge has to live by a code of conduct, recusal standards, exempt for the nine supreme court justices. they can't police themselves.
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that's true of the liberal and more conservative justices so i hope we can vote on it but it might not be in this congress with all of the attention on justice thomas. >> senator murphy, appreciate your time on what is a busy afternoon for you. >> thank you. breaking news coming into us out of israel. police are telling us at least e two people have been killed and more than a half dozen are in the hospital after a shooting in tel aviv. this is the latest in a string of shootings there. i want to go to nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley for the latest. what do we know? >> reporter: well, not very much. we heard there was a man who opened fire and he fled on foot. now, there were conflicting reports of whether or not police managed to actually take down that assassailant. supposedly now we're hearing there's been some haziness about that. now we're hearing we don't know. it doesn't sound as if the police were able to shoot this man. this is just in the several hours after this all broke, but
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this was right in the center of tel aviv, very close to some of the major night life attractions but also close to the government center where a lot of major decisions are made. as you were saying, two dead, sounds like eight were wounded, and this is the latest in a string of attacks. we've seen four attacks in just the past two weeks. that represents a pretty big increase in the number of attacks on a place that normally is pretty safe. most of the violence we've seen in the past couple years has happened in the west bank in the palestinian territories and in the gaza strip. very little kind of goes into israel proper. that is what makes this so threatening. as you know well, hallie, from covering this, these things come and go, they rise and fall, the level of violence. we don't know the motive. of the four terrorist attacks in the last two weeks, at least two of them have been claimed by islamic state.
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