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confirmation process, i had the distinct honor of having 95 personal meetings with 97 sitting senators. and we had substantive and engaging conversations about my approach to judging and about the role of judges in the constitutional system we all love. as a brief aside, i will note that these are subjects about which i care deeply. i have dedicated my career to public service because i love this country and our constitution and the rights that make us free. i also understand from my many years of practice as a legal advocate, as a trial judge, and as a judge on the court of appeals that part of the genius of the constitutional framework of the united states is its design and that the framers entrusted the judicial branch with the crucial but limited
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role. i've also spent the better part of the past decade hearing thousands of cases and writing hundreds of opinions and in every instance i have done my level best to stay in my lane and to reach a result that is consistent with my understanding of the law and with the obligation to rule independently without fear or favor. i am humbled and honored to continue in this fashion as an associate justice of the supreme court of the united states, working with brilliant colleagues, supporting and defending the constitution and steadfastly upholding the rule of law. [ applause ] but today at this podium my mission is far more modest. i'm simply here to give me heartfelt thanks to the
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categories of folks who are largely responsible for me being here at this moment. first, of course, there is my family. mom and dad, thank you, not only for traveling back here on what seems like a moment's notice but for everything you've done and continue to do for me. my brother ketag is here as well. you've always been a model of public service and bravery and i thank you for that. i love you all very much. to my in-laws, pamela and gardner and jackson who are here today and my sisters-in-law, brothers-in-law, thank you for your love and support. to my daughters, tala and leyla, i bet you never thought you'd get to skip school by spending a day at the white house. this is all pretty exciting for
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me as well but nothing has brought me greater joy than being your mother. i love you very much. [ applause ] patrick, thank you for everything you've done for me over these past 25 years of our marriage. you've done everything to support and encourage me and it is you who has made this moment possible. [ applause ] your steadfast love gave me the courage to move in this direction. i don't know that i believed you when you said that i could do this but now i do. and for that i'm forever grateful. in the family category, let me also briefly mention the huge extended family, both patrick's and my own who are watching this from all over the country and
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the world, thank you for supporting me. i hope to be able to connect with the personally in the coming weeks and months. moving on briefly to the second category of people that warrant special recognition, those who provided invaluable support to me professionally in the decades prior to my nomination and the many, many friends i have been privileged to make throughout my life and career. now, i know that everyone who finds professional success thinks they have the best mentors, but i truly do. i had three inspiring jurists for whom i had the privilege of clerking, judge patty saris, judge bruce sellya and just stephen breyer. each is an exceptional public servant and i could not have had better role models in honor, integrity, principle, both by word and deed.
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my work with justice breyer in particular was a particularly extraordinary gift. justice breyer's commitment to an independent, impartial judiciary is unflagging and for him, the rule of law is not merely a duty, it is his passion. i am daunted by the prospect of having to follow in his foot steps and i would count myself lucky indeed to be able to do so with even the smallest amount of his wisdom, grace and joy. the exceptional mentorship of the judges for whom i've worked has proven especially significant for me during this past decade of my service as a federal judge. and of course that service itself has been a unique opportunity. for that i must also thank president obama, who put his faith in me by nominating me to
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my first judicial role on the federal district court. this brings me to my colleagues and staff of the federal district court in washington, d.c. and the d.c. circuit. thank you for everything. i am deeply grateful for wisdom and battle tested friendship through the years and i want to, tend a special thanks for all of my law clerks, many of whom are he today, who have carved out time and space to accompany me on this special journey. i'm especially grateful to jennifer gruda, who has been by my side since nearly the outset of my time on this bench and has promised not to leave me as we take this last big step. to the many other friends that i have had the great good fortune to have made throughout the years, from my neighborhood
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growing up, from miami palmetto senior high school and especially the debate team, from my days at harvard college where i met my beloved roommates lisa fairfax, nina coleman simmons and antoinette coakley, they are truly my sisters. to my time at harvard law school and the many experiences i've been blessed to have since graduation. thank you. i have too many friends to name but please know how much you've meant to me and how much i have appreciated the smiles, the hugs and the many atta girls that have propelled me forward to this day. finally, i'd like to give special thanks to the white house staff and the special assistants who provided invaluable assistance in helping me to navigate the confirmation process. my trusted sherpa senator doug
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jones was an absolute god send. [ applause ] he was an absolute god send. he's not only the best storyteller you'd ever want to meet but also unbelievably popular on the hill, which helped a lot. i'm also standing here today in no small part due to the hard work of the brilliant folks who interact with the legislature and other stakeholders on behalf of the white house, including louisa terrell, tonia boyd and andrew gates. [ cheers and applause ] i am also particularly grateful for the awe-i spiring leadership
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of white house counsel dana reemis. [ applause ] of page herwig. where is page? and ron claine. they led an extraordinarily team of white house staffers in the herculean process. thank you as well to the many, many kind-hearted people across this country around around the world who have reached out to me directly in recent weeks with messages of support. i have spent years toiling away in the relative solitude of my
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chambers with just my law clerks in isolation so it's been somewhat overwhelming in a good way to recently be flooded with thousands of notes and cards and photos expressing just how much this moment means to so many people. the notes that i've received from children are particularly cute and especially meaningful. because more than anything they speak directly to the hope and promise of america. it has taken 232 years and 115 prior appointments for a black woman to be selected to serve on the supreme court of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] but we've made it. [ cheers and applause ]
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we've made it, all of us. all of us. and our children are telling me that they see now more than ever that here in america anything is possible. [ applause ] they also tell me that i'm a role model, which i take both as an opportunity and as a huge responsibility. i am feeling up to the task primarily because i know that i am not alone. i am standing on the shoulders of my own role models, generations of americans who never had anything close to this kind of opportunity but who got up every day and went to work believing in the promise of
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america, showing others through their determination and, yes, their perseverance that good, good things can be done in this great country. from my grandparents on both sides with only a grade school education but instilled in my parents the importance of learning. to my parents who went to racially segregated schools growing up and were the first in their families to have the chance to go to college. i am also ever buoyed by the leadership of generations past who helped to light the way, back to martin luther king jr., justice thurgood marshal and my personal heroine just constance
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baker-motley. they and so many others did the heavy lifting that made this day possible. and for all of the talk of this historic nomination and now confirmation, i think of them as the true path breakers. i am just the very lucky first inheriter of the dream of liberty and justice for all. [ applause ] to be sure, i have worked hard to get to this point in my career and i have now achieved something far beyond anything my grandparents could have possibly ever imagined, but no one does this on their own. the path was cleared for me so that i might rise to this occasion and in the poetic words of dr. maya angelou, i do so now
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while bringing the gifts my ancestors gave. [ cheers and applause ] i am the dream and the hope of the slave. [ applause ] so as i take on this new role, i strongly believe that this is a moment in which all americans can take great pride. we have come a long way toward perfecting our union. in my family it took just one generation to go from
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segregation to the supreme court of the united states. and it is an honor, the honor of a lifetime for me to have this chance to join the court, to promote the rule of law at the highest level and to do my part to carry our shared project of democracy and equal justice under law forward into the future. thank you again, mr. president and members of the senate for this incredible honor. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ and welcome to "meet the
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press daily." i'm chuck todd. the president and vice president and newly confirmed to be just ketanji brown jackson. i have to tell you, that was quite the speech by the next justice. it's a major victory by the democratic party. what if it's the last of this calendar year? we'll get to that. judge jackson will be the first black justice on the supreme court and it will be the first time the highest court will not have a majority of its members be white men. president biden called this a day history will remember. the judge said her family went from segregation to the supreme court in one generation. joining me is shannon pettypiece. i want to talk about what struck us all a little bit here watching this event, a reminder, this white house hasn't had a celebratory moment like this in some time and some of it's covid, some of it is tough
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stories. they haven't had some, you know, that maybe the bipartisan infrastructure bill signing ceremony didn't have this and this obviously is a bigger moment for the country as well so that adds to this celebratory atmosphere. shannon, have you seen anything like this since biden took office? >> this is certainly the happiest and most enthusiastic we've seen the president in a while. i was talking to a democratic strategist yesterday, they work a lot with african-american voters, particularly black women, and they said as we were reflecting on the confirmation yesterday how they remembered how back in february when this nomination was made, how the white house was really hoping that this was going to be a moment they could leverage with democrats and the democratic base. so much, though, has happened in that past month and a half, though, that, you know, usually a supreme court justice confirmation hearing is one of
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the biggest stories in washington, yet it has had to compete with one of the biggest conflicts in europe in a generation. it's had to compete with rising gas prices, inflation, covid now appearing to make a bit of a resurgence in d.c., certainly among a lot of high-profile officials. so the white house didn't necessarily get the moments they had been hoping for out of this at the start of it but they are getting one today with an event like this. >> shannon, the war is the war and that's going to consume more time from that west wing than perhaps politically the democratic party wants it to happen but that's the job that they signed up for. but what does the white house hope is next on the domestic front? do they have a next before november? >> well, they're still trying to get their covid funding. i mean, they're still -- remember when we were talking about trying to get, you know, a
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trillion plus for child care tax credits and drug price negotiations and all that. now they're just trying to get $10 and 20 billion in covid funding that we have been accustomed to for the past year, free vaccines, free testing for those uninsured and being able to buy vaccines overseas. they can't even get that ball across the court or maybe they have a deal but it's been a bit of a struggle. so there was never any real great expectations about the domestic agenda. there was hopes that maybe bits and pieces of the build back better could be picked off. but the focus is so narrow on what they need to get done just to get through the next month or two, i'm not hearing much talk about anything else beyond the immediate issues right on the agenda at the moment. >> one could argue after
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overpromising and underdelivering, maybe they can come up with something while we're not watching. shannon pettypiece, thank you. as we said, the 53-47 conformation vote is the democrats' biggest victory in congress since passing the bipartisan infrastructure bill. and as congress heads to its spring break. senators manchin and sinema have not seemed open to reviving pieces of the better back agenda and while capping the price of insulin the senate wants to make changes which could draw the process out. and yesterday the caucus chair to typically projects optimism all but said the legislative window is closed and pushed the
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idea of executive action. >> we're trying to push as hard as we can for anything we can get through. we'll keep doing that legislatively. that's also why we rolled out an executive action agenda. we're moving both tracks. i'm very optimistic on the executive agenda front. i am still hopeful on the legislative front and we're not giving up. >> look, you make some big promises when they took over a unified government with a narrow majority. by every measure they've underdelivered. democrats are heading into a mid-term election with campaign promises unfulfilled and asking voters to give them another two years running congress. a big one unfulfilled is the prescription drug issue. with me is leann caldwell, democratic pollster and cornel belcher and senior fellow
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matthew continetti. i want to start with the supreme court. when this nomination got started, i think you and i had a conversation, boy, the president really could use some improvement among african-americans, in particular will this be that moment? his poll numbers have not improved over the six-week process. if anything they've, you know, either stayed stagnant or depending on the pollster declined a bit. does this help? or is there just too much doom and gloom on everything else? >> a couple things, chuck. one is, you know, internally his numbers have improved with minority voters. his numbers took a slight uptick after he came out and said we should do away with the filibuster to pass voting rights. but put this aside. this is a big deal. politically is a big deal. you have a woman standing before america saying i am the hope and
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dream of slaves. the exceptionalism of america is on display. this shouldn't even be partisan. the arc bends towards justice. this is an example of we fight and there's a lot that i can be cynical about about america but that is an example of the hope and the promise of america. so it's a big american thing. the politics of this is this -- when you look at how republicans displayed a particular kind of disdain and subjugated her to a special kind of disrespect over this process -- >> it felt very racially motivated? >> what is it about this woman that terrifies them. the image of them walking out while mitt romney stood there and clapped, the image of them walking out after that vote yesterday, chuck, not only african-american women but women all across the country, middle of the road women across the
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country will look at that image of republicans walking out on that woman and they have probably done more to help us mobilize women of color than we could have done with a billion dollars. >> it could linger in a way that -- >> this is an energizing moment if democrats capitalize on it. >> you said something about lisa murkowski to us while we were chatting during the event that the behavior of republicans on the judiciary committee was a big motivator for her to support this nomination. >> it was. she alluded to it in her statement. but my republican sources also tell me she has talked to republicans who said that she was pretty disgusted with how republicans on the judiciary committee handled that hearing, completely felt like -- she felt like they were attacking this woman and she was not pleased with it. so she thinks that the process is essentially broken. she doesn't think it needs to be that way. while she supports ketanji brown jackson thinking she is
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qualified for this position but the way republicans dealt with it really left a bad taste in her mouth. >> matthew, lindsey graham, i can't -- i mean, the vane moves so fast sometimes, i can't keep up. he really seemed to go out of his way yesterday to send a statement about this nomination that seemed just unbecoming. >> i don't pretend to know the mind of senator graham. >> the whole tie thing and taking it off to make sure -- >> he had a favorite candidate in this judicial nominations process. and that candidate was not nominated and that really annoyed him. >> i'm trying to understand what part of his relationship with president biden made him think president biden should take his advice. >> i think there's no question this is a victory for the president. it's a victory for america in a lot of ways and the short-term loss for the republicans because they went in to make it about
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judicial philosophy and some of their free agents with an eye toward 2024 decided to make it about other things. and that may not only have cost republicans votes but soon to make justice jackson more popular. if that strategy was not effective now, it may be in their republican primaries in 2024. >> i remember getting a text during a nasty exchange at one point and somebody said, wow, move over r.b.g. meaning that she'll become bigger than a supreme court justice. people are going to wear t-shirts of her. >> she'll be in political advertising in the fall. >> like amy coney barrett was, a.c.b., you still see signs. >> this victory is happening
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with enough time before the mid terms that the democrats will have to work very hard to remind the public in the final weeks of this campaign that, yes, justice jackson is there and we fought a battle. that's a big if. >> here's the uncomfortable question for democrats. leann, you cover congress. is this the last big thing they pass? is this the last big thing this congress accomplishes before november? >> we'll see. they are talking about a scaled back reconciliation bill but these are not formal recommendations. some corners of the democratic party are talking about doing one more thing for the american public before the mid terms. democrats are divided on how to move forward. they don't know if they should do it, you know, one last attempt and risk failing before the mid terms or just kind of, you know, support what they've already passed and move forward and promote what they've done. >> look, i'm going to pick a
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scab on prescription drugs. i'm going to go through the way back machine on how long and how often democrats have been advertising on this issue. >> the drug companies have been overcharging long enough. it's time to fight back. >> i'm tammy baldwin. i'm fighting against drug companies that jackson up their prices. that's why i approve this message. >> i'm lizzie fletcher. i approve this message because i'll work with both parties to bring down drug prices. >> mitch mcconnell and the republicans in congress have taken millions from drug companies, blocking bills that would lower drug costs and insurance premiums. >> are they going to put a bill on the floor? are you really going to put this in the democratic advertising in the fall again? >> yes. >> because people want it but -- >> look, look, watching that was funny because it goes back before this, i remember carvel's was it's the economy stupid and don't forget health care, right?
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it's always health care. but health care is still a top three or four issue for americans. >> because of the cost. it's costly. >> if you look at what the was white house was doing. i'm not one to say democrats need to pass five more thing. but i think if you look at what they've done around -- house democrats, what they've done around prescription drugs and infrastructure, they have a pretty good case. i don't think they need to pass eight or nine more things to say this is the magic number, now that your fine. i this have to do a pretty good job of selling. >> health care has been a strong issue for democrats but you think its been subsumed into larger economic questions and particularly inflation and it's driving a lot of erosion in the president's numbers. and the other issue, education.
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we've seen it with the youngkin election. that's slipping outs of the democrats' fingers as well. >> let's end with where we started, which is also in our conversation. cornell, you positive -- maybe the cameras are a mistake in the supreme court nomination. >> i think they are. this process is so broken right now. it's just a terrible process. i'm a media guy. >> i hesitate talking about it but i completely agree. >> this is an example where i think if we take cameras out of the process, politics are taken out of the process. i think senators behave differently and questions are asked differently and the justices actually answer some questions off camera in a way they don't do on camera. the cameras have spoiled this. >> but then the public went over know about it if there's no cameras in the process. >> what are they learning,
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though? >> you think it's bad now, the push to get cameras in the court. >> i don't know if that's a good idea. i think the audio -- look, i think audio, i've been really pleasantly surprised with, a, how satisfied i am with audio but it does still feel like it's about the case. >> it's about fund-raising. supreme court nominating processes is about fund-raising. >> take out the cameras then. make it not about fund-raising. i know, i'm in the -- >> the black robes are no longer black to too many people, they're red and blue. that's the unintended consequence. whatever it does to fix that, maybe it's this. who knows. >> but we have lots of colors for you for your birthday. >> happy birthday. >> that's very kind of you. this is the last one i'm supposed to have. thank you guys. >> they just go backwards. it's not the last one.
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>> somebody said this is the younges birthday i'll ever have again. up next, a horrific attack on a train station in eastern ukraine, filled with women and children trying to get out of the war zone. you're watching "meet the press daily." you're watching "meet the press daily. they're both invested... in green energy. and also each other. digital tools so impressive, you just can't stop. what would you like the power to do? why give your family just ordinary eggs when they can enjoy the best? eggland's best. the only eggs with more fresh and delicious taste. plus, superior nutrition. because the way we care is anything but ordinary. ♪♪
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welcome back. the death toll is continuing to climb from that attack on a train station in ukraine. officials say at least 50 people were killed, including five children. it was a strike at a train station in the donetsk area of ukraine. the attack appears to be have been carried out by a russian short range ballistic missile fired from inside of ukraine. john sparks was on the scene of the attack shortly after it
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happened. here is some of what he saw. >> reporter: what we think has happened is that it has exploded in the air over this area because it has distributed explosives throughout this area in multiple locations, seemingly randomly. i ask my colleague to focus on the word on that missile. that means "for children" or "for the children." just remember there will have been hundreds of people queueing up to get inside the train station. we've seen it. they will -- they would have been killed. terrible damage here. you can see people brought their lunch, their packed lunches, a few bags here. and they would have tried -- they would have been queueing up to get into the booking hall.
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>> the attack comes as u.s. officials warn that the war could be entering a new and protracted phase. with me is ali arouzi. many ukrainians pass through in their efforts to leave the country. and former chief of staff, national security analyst. we saw what our sky news partners there got for us. it's stomach turning. you're dealing with -- you're talking to a lot of people that are in the midst of essentially lviv is the weigh station when people can escape from the east. what kind of reactions are you hearing and seeing? >> well, chuck, it's shock and horror again that civilians are being targeted in this very deliberate way. you know, they're still grieving
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over what happened to their brothers and sister in mariupol. zelenskyy said this morning this was a deliberate attack. he said there were no military personnel at that train station and this was designed to terrify the civilians that are trying to escape the eastern part of ukraine, just as they've tried to terrorize civilians in many other parts of this country and just following on what our sky correspondent said, the regional governor of that region said this was a touch-go missile that had cluster munitions and they spray all over a very large area to cause that kind of damage that we've seen there. of course the ukrainian authorities have been telling people in these areas, look, get out of the eastern part of ukraine as fast as you can
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before the window closes and before there is an all-out russian attack in that area, which the russians have been focusing on and there were around 4,000 people at that train station, as you mentioned earlier, many of them women and children trying to get to safety to places like lviv where i am. you hear account after account from before that everybody who is trying to escape kyiv before they attacked that place, people were just crammed to the rafters on trains trying to get out of these areas. it was probably a very similar situation at that train station. you can see the scene of carnage there, dead bodies, blood, suitcases are strewn all over the place. and again, this is designed to terrorize the local population and to stop them from leaving these areas. that's what the russians have done time and time again in this war. they've stopped civilians getting out of these areas because they want them to capitulate in one way or
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another. incredibly, chuck, as well as all other atrocities committed here, the russians are denying they had anything to do with this one either. >> ali arouzi, thanks very much. jeremy, i keep coming back to a quote that the health official of ohio at the beginning of the pandemic, she said when you look back on pandemics, never regret what you did, regret what you don't. are we going to look at back and regret what we did or regret what we didn't do? >> we have to make sure russia cannot exact these kind of attacks on civilian targets. it requires arming the ukrainians with additional weaponry and deprive putin with any ability to be on the ground in ukraine. there's discussion about whether an off ramp for putin would entail him staying in the
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donbas. >> that is an off ramp that i think a lot of europeans thought was -- it's totally closed, right? >> totally closed. i don't think zelenskyy will permit it, i don't think any country in the west will allow him to be strong armed into it. one of the points of discussion in istanbul was that the russians said we don't want to have any prosecutions on war crimes. you take a look at an attack on a train station like this, targeting civilians, potentially, a missile was written for the children. that's obviously a war crime. >> i want to go -- i'm glad we're showing the missile. the way it was described, you immediately thought it was a cluster bomb. >> yeah. when you talk about a munition exploding in the air and several munitions coming out from it, fanning out -- >> these are supposed to be against the geneva convention, right?
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>> they are against the geneva convention. 500 bullets coming and shredding civilians. it's to kill people who are standing in line to get their train. >> so this is a terror attack in the middle of a war. >> it's a terror attack designed to intimidate and keep hostages there so when the russians come in, the civilians can't leave. >> we keep hearing give them more, give them more. what is more and what is it that, you know, is there some offensive capabilities we need to be giving them at this point? >> yes. the u.s. today announced that slovakia was going to be moving an s-300 anti-aircraft -- >> in four weeks. what took that so long? >> we finally got our patriot battery into slovakia. that was what secretary auston and the white house announced today. we need more sophisticated weapons to effectively create a no-fly zone and we need more
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anti-rocket and mortar systems to protect against attacks like these. >> is there anything that we can do, when i say "we," nato, to help create humanitarian corridors? is there a line can you do without being the full no-fly? if people want to leave a war zone, let's at least help them evacuate safely. >> i think we can do it in the west but i don't think we can do it in the east. the countries along the borders in the west like poland and romania, they might be able to provide capabilities to leave but in the east, in donbas, i don't see how nato countries can do that. this is going to require offensive weapons that the ukrainians have to go against static russian military targets to take out their infrastructure and let civilians leave. >> one of the rationales for not doing certain things, well, we can't give putin the rationale.
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putin lies about everything. is it about time, oh, we haven't sent any migs but but migs show up. is it a point where it's time for nato to essentially, i don't know what you're talking about but maybe some weaponry that we weren't comfortable giving publicly shows up? >> absolutely. the reason we haven't been louder about pronouncing some of the weapons transfers was some of the countries in nato were uncomfortable with our publicly describing it. we have to do more covertly and with deniability and provide those to the ukrainians so they can hit back on russia. there is no negotiating with putin. that's out the door. >> so now it's sort of he's got -- ukraine has now got to win this war. >> ukraine has to win period. >> always good to get your perspective. thank you, sir. >> coming up, the misinformation crisis by the numbers and the impact on one group in
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welcome back. on this week's episode of "meet the press reports," we took a deep dive into the infodemic. it shows the problem is most acute for latinos. s the most recent study shows hispanics more likely to use what's app and youtube. they spend more time on the platforms every day. the problem is it lies in the content. more than a third of hispanic americans see misinforming often online and one activist found nearly 70% of spanish language
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misinformation went unlabeled by facebook compared to 30% in english. when we reached out for comment from facebook, meta, the parent company of facebook and what's app gave us this statement, "we're running our entire strategy on misinformation in spanish, we remove spanish-language voter interference content and false claims. we have four fact checking partners in the u.s. who review and rate spanish content and have fact checking services to connect users were accurate information. >> oh my word. >> if it's april 8th, it's chuck todd's birthday. >> are you putting this on tv? >> i remember my 50th birthday during the harding administration. so congratulations and happy birthday to chuck todd.
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after the men were arrested agents found tactical gear and weapons in their apartments and the list of the building residents. this story keeps getting, shall we say, curious-er. i will be honest, i was like, what is going on here? it's one of those, like, wow, there seems to be more to the story. >> maybe, and we don't know what the more is, and the what's going on there part is the part not answered at all. the fbi knows a great deal about these men now, and they controlled five apartments in this building near the navy yard, and three of them had paraphernalia that could outfit a small police department, and weapons -- >> do you think this is stuff they acquired from the government by posing as federal agents?
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>> no, no chance of that. and then they loaned to uniform officers from the secret services, and they aided one on president biden's detail and the first lady's detail, and they are now on administrative leave. one of the men you are looking at here, the fbi has says he has started to talk to investigators about what he was doing, and he claimed all sorts of things, including he was a u.s. army ranger, and he says he doesn't know the source of the cash. the other man, the fbi found passports and visas -- >> did you say he posed as a pakistani intelligence agent? >> he claimed to one person that he was a pakistani intelligence agent, and you can assume somebody a real agent is not running around telling people
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that. >> how long did you know who these guys were and able to close in? >> yeah, very recently. the postal inspection service came to the building because somebody assaulted a letter carrier, and these two were the witnesses and made claims and the postal inspector did not think it sounded right. >> it was a postal inspector, and it's like the taillight was out and look at what they discovered. >> yes. >> curiouser and curious-er. msnbc's coverage will continue with katy tur right after this break. type 2 diabetes zone? once-weekly ozempic® can help. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪
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good to be with you. i am katy tur. today the white house officially marked history celebrating the confirmation soon-to-be associate justice ketanji brown jackson. president flanked by two black women, the vice president and that the first black woman to be on the supreme court, said he was proud. >> this is not only a sunny
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