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good to be with you. i am katy tur. today the white house officially marked history celebrating the confirmation soon-to-be associate justice ketanji brown jackson. president flanked by two black women, the vice president and that the first black woman to be on the supreme court, said he was proud. >> this is not only a sunny day.
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i mean this from the bottom of my heart. this will let so much shine -- sunshine on so many young women, so many young black women, so many minorities that it's real, it's real. we're going to look back and it will have nothing to do with me, we will look back and it has something to do with changing history. there are moments people go back in history and are literally historic, consequential fundamental shifts in policy. turn to my grandchildren to say, i was there, i was there, it's just one of those moments in my view. my fellow americans today, i am honored to officially introduce to you the next associate justice supreme court of the united states, ketanji brown
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jackson. >> judge jackson will be officially sworn in as a justice at the end of the court's current term, sometime later this summer after justice breyer hangs up his robe for the final time. judge jackson wiped away tears and gave thanks to the men and women she looked up to in order to reach this incredible height. >> it has taken 232 years and 115 prior appointments for a black woman to be selected to serve on the supreme court of the united states. but we've made it. we've made it, all of us.
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all of us. and -- and our children are telling me that they see now more than ever that here in america anything is possible. they also tell me that i am a role model, which i take both as an opportunity and as a huge responsibility. i am feeling up to the task primarily because i know that i am not alone, i am standing on the shoulders of my own role models, generations of americans who never had anything close to this kind of opportunity but who got up every day and went to work believing in the promise of america.
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>> joining me now digital senior white house supporter, and nbc washington correspondent and moderator of "washington week" on pbs, and slate senior editor. i do want to begin with so much is being made of this nomination, and now this confirmation, and what it means to not just the country but black women in this country, black little girls in this country. you had a chance to speak with some of judge jackson's personal friends, though, and i am curious, what did they tell you? >> judge jackson's friends, they leaned into the history she made by being the first black woman on the supreme court in the same way we saw her lean into that history on the white house lawn today. these are women that went to college with judge jackson, and
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on the white house lawn she named them and thanked them by name, and one of the women that judge jackson talked about talked to me, and she said she predicted way back when they were in college that judge jackson would be the first black woman on the supreme court. i asked what it felt like that for that actually happen? here's what she said. >> ahhh. that's my emotional response, but it feels like it's coming full circle, and this is what we recognized in her so many years ago, the excellence and greatness. she is what is great in us as people, as black women and people, and we were able to see that way back then. >> there you can see her friend just squealing in joy. the women i talked to were so excited for her and they felt like they were being nominated along with her because she has a
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group of friends that she has been supporting and they are supporting her, and when they were in law school she would check to make sure her friends had pencils when they were going to the final exams and she helped them with things that happened in their adult lives, including their fathers getting sick and weathering cancer, and leaning into the idea as a black woman that she is surrounded by the support she will need to do this job. i think it's really, really important, that judge jackson on the lawn of the white house said i am the dream and the hope of the slave, saying it took one generation of her family to go to segregation to the supreme court. she is really, really telling people here that this is the country changing and this is a way for her to be an inheritor of justice for all, the american dream. she said, of course, she is inspired by all the people coming behind her, and her friends say that's her
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character, somebody brilliant, calm and very, very caring. >> what a remarkable fact, in one generation from segregation to the supreme court. i know a lot of people say this is not going to change the ideological impact of the court, and it won't, but let's talk about the impact she will make on the court regardless of what the majority or minority is? >> every justice i ever covered shares what it was like to sit in a conference room with marshall, and you didn't grow up in the jim crow south and he did, and what justice marshall taught him was what they didn't know about anything, and the impact was not just growing up as a black woman and the daughter and granddaughter of folks that faced brutal
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segregation, but also somebody who was a public defender and somebody who really understands what it's like to be a trial court judge and sentencing court judge. she brings not just the abundance of her experience as a black woman in america, but as a vanishingly small number of justices on the supreme court who sat on a trial, and the only one that defended criminal defendants, and these things are in no way trivial when you are in a conference room telling a bunch of people what they don't know that they don't know, and we know historically what it was like when justice ginsberg and justice o'connell and justice marshall were able to talk that way, and how it can bring folks around and that kind of power is immeasurable, and i think she brings that. her ability to cross bridges and brings ideological foes together and i think she will be a force
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to reckon with even on a small three-person majority. >> i mentioned this at the top, president biden flanked by two black women, the first black woman to be vice president and the first black woman to be supreme court justice. >> he said this is a day he had been hoping to see since he was campaigning, when he decided if he got a supreme court seat he would put the first black woman to serve on that court and that's who he was going to nominate. there is obviously a enormous sense of history inside the white house at this moment. they wanted to have an event where they could really celebrate this finally despite all the cases of covid going around d.c. right now, because of the milestones that this administration has gotten to mark, this will be one that will in many instances out last a lot
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of people in this white house and administration. it has not been an easy haul. i have covered three of the confirmations now, and even if your party controls the senate and white house, it's never an easy haul. there were a lot of people in the white house that helped get this over the finish line, so certainly a big accomplishment for them, and taking this as a moment of good news in a white house that over the past few weeks has just had an aenormous amount of grim news, and the war in ukraine, and inflation and gas prices, and this is a major accomplishment that will out last this presidency and trying to seize on that, and certainly politically hope it can give a little juice and energy to the base as we come up on the mid-term elections in a few months. >> let's go to that in a second. thank you, ladies.
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kate, i want to begin with where shannon left off. it has been a tough few months, frankly. the war in ukraine is bringing bad news, and inflation is on the rise even though wages are up, it's not quite as high as inflation so people can feel like they are not making as much money as they were. the economy is doing well. we have added jobs, but the president's poll numbers don't seem to reflect that. i wonder in this moment in getting this confirmation, how is the white house planning to capitalize on it? >> well, i mean, katy, this is not a moment for politics. this is a moment today to celebrate an incredibly historic and historically qualified nominee, and now associate justice of the supreme court, i think, you know, i can say that
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there was not a dry eye in the house at the event as the justice was speaking this afternoon and it was incredibly moving and powerful. i think also we saw this process play out efficiently and effectively in the senate. i think for the country to see the senate play its role of advice and consent and to see the nominee earn republican votes for confirmation, because they decided they could confirm her to the court and i think that's an important thing for the country, too. this is a historic and very celebratory day at the white house. the president was incredible proud of justice jackson and incredibly proud of what her being on the court could mean for the court. >> listen, i know it's a historic day and politics you can't brush it aside in any presidency, and it's something he ran on and it's a promise he fulfilled. i find it hard to believe that
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the white house doesn't see this as a win and wouldn't be going out there and saying, hey, listen, you voted for us and you put democrats in the senate, especially in georgia, and this is what comes of that. >> well, we see it as a win for the country, no question. you are right, it's something the president campaigned on. it's something he said if he was elected president he would do. it's a promise he made back in the primary. you heard him talk about today. this was something he thought about as he was contemplating get into the race and then getting into the race. this was something incredibly important to him to be able to deliver on. it's a big moment for him to be able to deliver on this today, obviously in great partnership with the senate and everybody that helped move the confirmation forward. of course, katy, there's no question it's a win, it's a win for the country. absolutely. >> let's talk about ukraine. this week we have seen truly horrific stuff coming out of
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towns like bucha. the president himself has called it horrific and war crimes, and president zelenskyy has called it genocide. i wonder if there are people around the country and world asking themselves how much longer or how long do we watch this from the sidelines? is there a point where the russians might go too far? >> well, first i would dispute that we are watching from the sidelines. we have been doing everything we can to get the ukrainian armed forces and the ukrainian people the weapons they need to push back on russian aggression. we have seen a historic amount of security assistance that we have provided including anti-tan skpbg anti-air systems, and javelins, stingers and munitions. for every russian tank in ukraine, there are ten u.s.-provided tank systems, and we are doing everything in our power, and president biden is
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doing everything he can to provide ukrainians with what they need to push back on the aggression. >> the ukrainians want fighter jets, the migs and a no-fly zone. >> the president has been very clear he will not put u.s. troops in direct military conflict with russia. when he thinks about how to provide the aid that the ukrainians are asking for, the way it works is they provide a list and we go through and we work to provide nearly everything they are asking for, and the president takes into account the advise of our military adviser, and we have seen the ukrainians fighting bravely and in an inspiring way. we made another announcement today back filling slovakia with patriot missiles so they can provide the s-300 to the ukrainians. we are doing everything in our power to make sure they have the
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weapons they need. >> there's talk among some european nations about the ban. the aid going to ukraine is significantly less, and some are saying we are funding the russian war here. i wonder, is the president having conversations with european leaders about a way to wean themselves off oil and gas faster to try and stop funding the russians? >> well, the president is in contact with our allies, and he was clear that our european partners are in a different position. we are a significant producer here in the united states, and many of our european partners are not. he made it clear they are in a
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different economic situation, and they will make the decisions to best benefit them. we have been unified in our approach and sanctions, between the sanctions we applied and the european partners have applied, and we have seen the russian economy shrink dramatically. there are significant costs being inflicted, and the president will continue to make sure we are strengthening ukraine in the battlefield and at the negotiating table. >> are you worried about covid? lots of people in washington have it and people in the white house have it? >> we are taking precautions as every american should, and we are following the cdc guidance, and we are doing everything to make sure the president and vice president and staff are safe, and look, there may come a time
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when the president tests positive for covid, but i would note thanks to the great work of this administration we are in a very different place than we were a year ago, year and a half, two years ago. we have vaccines and antivirals. the president is vaccinated and twice boosted, so protected from the most severe strains of covid. so he is out living his life just as americans are living their lives, taking precautions but moving forward. >> thank you for being with us on this historic day for the white house. it was truly remarkable to see the president flanked by a black woman vice president and the first black woman to be supreme court justice in this country. we do appreciate your time. >> thank you, katy. always appreciate it. at least 50 people are believed to be dead in ukraine after a rocket attack on a train station in the eastern part of that country. what was written in russian on the missile that killed all those people? plus, new york's attorney general wants former president
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at least 50 people believed to be dead and 100 more believed to be injured after a rocket hit a train station in ukraine. that station was packed with people trying to flee to safety. a warning that the images you are about to see are disturbing. five of the children are dead, and nbc news has not been able to independently verify the reported death toll. john sparks surveyed the destruction hours after it happened. >> you can see some of the damage here. explosives from the missile dropped here. remember, there will have been hundreds of people queuing up to get inside the train station. we've seen it. they would have been killed, a lot of them.
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terrible damage here. you can see people have brought their lunch, their packed lunches, a few bags here. >> a senior u.s. defense official identified the weapon as a short range ballistic missile fired from inside ukraine, and it contained cluster munitions and a weapon when used on civilians is considered a war crime. the message written in white in russia means for the children. this is what the train station looked like earlier this week. thousands of people on their way west towards safety. the mayor of the city said as many as 4,000 people, mostly women and children were at the station when the missiles hit. joining me from lviv, ukraine,
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nbc news correspondent, ali >> earlier today president zelenskyy said that these were all civilians trying to flee to safety, that there were no military personnel at the train station. as you explained earlier, the governor here is saying they were hit with a missile that has munitions, and it explodes in the air and it causes as much damage as possible. katy, these people were trying to get out of the badly hit eastern part of ukraine. ukrainian authorities have been telling them, get out of the
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areas before the window closes while you can so you don't get trapped like the people in mariupol have been trapped. these people could not get out and were hit very badly. the mayor of that area is saying there are dozens of people in the hospital right now missing legs, missing arms. there are 40 simultaneous operations going on in that hospital to try and save people from the damage done there. we have a sound bite from the press office. let's take a listen. >> translator: there were many killed and injured here. there were ambulances, police, fire engines, and the cars were burning nearby. it was hell on earth. we all had shrapnel injuries, because this is the type of shrapnel scattered around them. >> reporter: they are targeting
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civilians and terrorize them and trying to trap them in the areas where they live, and there are no rules of conduct by the russians, and they make no distinction between military and civilian targets, and that was clearly an all-out civilian target. they are trying to get away from what is expected to be a massive attack by the russians in the donbas area, and the russians did not want them to get away and the russians are denning they carried out this attack, and they said we do not have these kinds of missiles, and nobody is believing them except for the audience in russia. >> at least five kids killed there, at least. joining me from kyiv, the prime
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minister. the message written in russian was for the children. does that make any sense to you? i think we're having some connection issues with alexi. the former prime minister of ukraine, alexi, who would have been joining us. we will move on. up next, a judge ordered donald trump to comply and what new york's attorney general is now asking a judge to do to hold him accountable.
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we're following two developments in former president trump's ongoing legal battles. new york's attorney general is seeking to hold donald trump in contempt over his efforts to stonewall her civil tax fraud investigation. in court filings thursday, letitia james office is asking
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the judge to fine donald trump $10,000 a day until he turns the documents and records over. manhattan's district attorney made his first public comments about the criminal inquiry into the former president. in a statement on thursday, alvin bragg insisted his office was continuing its probe despite the two resignations of the two prosecutors who were leading it. joining me is suzanne craig, and since 2014 her reporting has focussed on donald trump's income and taxes, and she won a pulitzer prize for some of that reporting. and barbara mcquaid is also an msnbc legal analyst. susan, these documents that letitia james wants, what are they? >> a lot of documents regarding trump's finances.
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she has been collecting documents for a long time now, and there's still a lot more to be turned over. the reason these become relevant is because they are trying now to go into depositions where you would think towards the end of an investigation, they are looking to depose both the former president and two of his children, donald trump jr. and ivanka trump, and eric has already been deposed. they want the documents to help them prepare, and they have filing cabinets with post-it notes that have not been looked at, and one of his phones yet to be searched. there's a lot of stuff and they are getting frustrated and there's a court order that says they have to turn this stuff over. this is why we are where we are at today? >> the trump folks said there are documents all over the place, they could be at
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lar-mar-go. >> i get a sense of frustration when i read the court documents that they are trying to get stuff and they are just being frustrated pretty much at every turn. there's not just not being stuff from the assistants. you can feel it when they are reading it, they are having problems and that's why we are at the point where the attorney general is seeking a $10,000 a day fine to get them into compliance. >> barbara, the president and the white house did.
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this sort of stonewalling after a subpoena, after a judge ordered the president -- former president to turn over these documents, it seems just very -- like he's just flouting the law right now. what is -- of course we just lost barbara. we are having connection issues today. sorry about that. i will ask you, suzanne, what is the likelihood that a judge is going to say this is not okay, $10,000 a day, yes, we're going to do it? >> i think likely. i think he will be facing some sort of -- some sort of order from the judge to get moving on this and to get into compliance. $10,000 a day is not insignificant and it's of note because it's a fine and not tax deductible and that can add up pretty quick when you get day after day of this. >> barbara, i think you are back
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with us and i want to ask you about alvin bragg, and he says they are continuing the criminal investigation. can you make sense of that when we saw the resignations of the two lead prosecutors? >> it's hard to know without knowing what the facts are, and it sounds like the two prior prosecutors thought michael cohen would make a witness that would be effective and believable, and bragg believes that is not enough because of the baggage michael cohen has, and he is looking to see if there's more evidence they can amass. the frustration is we had seasoned and experienced prosecutors think there was enough evidence, and he says there's not enough, and that happens a lot in prosecutor's offices, and when the stakes are this high, how much evidence is
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needed and enough. i am heartened by the fact he says he needs to continue to investigate, and you can use a witness like michael cohen if you can corroborate what he is saying with documents and perhaps it's alvin bragg doesn't want to just charge a case but be sure of a conviction. that's a reasonable position for him to take. >> thank you so much for joining us on this story. barbara, i want you to stick around for the next story. breaking news out of michigan where the jury was hearing the case of the four men planning to kidnap whitmer. back with us is barbara mcquaid, and so megan, break down what happened. >> that verdict coming in within the last couple of minutes here. barry croft and adam fox they could not reach a decision on,
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the jurors, so that was declared a mistrial, and the other two were acquitted. prosecutors do have an opportunity to retry croft and fox, and that was a hung jury. this was a month-long trial. prosecutors presented 13 days worth of evidence, including testimony from fbi agents as well as informants who infiltrated this group as they were, according to prosecutors, conspireing to commit kidnapping on the governor of michigan, and just within the last couple of minutes these jurors returned a verdict saying they did not find anybody guilty, and two miss mistrials for the other defendants. >> barbara, help us understand? >> this is a big blow for the government. the acquittals speak for
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themselves. they found the evidence was insufficient. and the fact that two have been acquitted doesn't mean the other two cannot be found guilty. the government will have the option of trying the case again, and i think they need to think really hard about the message it would send if they don't try this case again. the evidence was very strong, and they had two codefendants that cooperated and testified, yes, we were planning to do this and were not entrapped and i find it concerning that a jury could not reach a decision, and there could be a lone sympathetic juror, and the decision now has to be made to retry the other two defendants, and i the consequences will only embolden them who want to believe in vigil anti-justice.
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many russians like those visiting the red square today say they agree with what russia calls its special military operation. a disconnect between president putin's image inside and outside russia. we travel to where russian television is being put into homes built before the war. >> do you support vladimir putin? yes, of course, we support the president's decision, she says. another shows us the local newspaper and it says the operation in ukraine is under control, he tells us. this man says they have seen a 20% increase in president putin's approval rating from november to march. it's now above 80%. in november vladimir putin's approval rating is 63 --
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>> 69, and then 71 and then jumped to 83. >> 83%. from 42% to 72%, their view of america. this is strengthening patriotism. >> yeah, conflict with the west, negative feelings towards the west. >> 51% of russian say they are proud of their country and 31% say they feel anxiety, fear and horror. we asked the spokeswoman for russia's foreign ministry whether the apparent support in russia be sustained. will the amount of bloodshed in ukraine ultimately impact -- >> the world sees in our country
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global emissions have risen to their highest point in history despite decades of repeated warnings. according to a major report by the u.n., we aren't doing what we need to do to stop it. to avoid carpet the report calls for a revolution in how we live our lives, produce our energy and power our world. and its authors say it is now or never. here is the u.n. secretary-general. >> the jury has reached a verdict, and it is damning. this report of the intergovernmental panel on
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climate change is a litany of broken climate processes. it is a file of shame cataloging the empty pledges that put us firmly on track toward an unlivable world. we are on a fast track to climate disaster. >> joining me now is the report's co-author jan minks, professor of climate change and public policy at the university of leeds. we are on a fast track toward climate disaster, toward an unlivable planet. just tell me where are we right now in terms of that fast track? are we -- you tell me. >> thanks for having me. you said it already, right? emissions are growing. we are still stuck in the age of fossil fuels. emissions are at record highs. just to give you an idea, the emissions that we have emitted during the last decade are about the same size. the remaining carbon budget for
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keeping warming below 1.5 degree. so things are not looking good in that sense. you really need to bend the curves. but there are also some positive signs that we mentioned. there's a growing number of countries that have actually now started to reduce emissions in a sustainable way. we see a growing number of regions, city, and lots of companies with net zero targets. and we see particularly also technologies like solar or wind or batteries that have performed better. it's a decisive debate, and it's a decisive decade that will tell us whether or not the glass is half full or half empty. >> we're showing our images right now on the screen of wildfires, of extreme weather, tornz, floods, all that damage that comes along with climate change.
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and we've seen an increased amount of this activity and increased amount of this damage, builds and trillions of dollars' worth, people displaced from their homes. i mean, the outback and the australian wildfires a couple years ago were incredible. that being said, it still feels like for many it's not affecting me directly or i can't really show you how it's affecting me directly. people don't feel the urgency of this. if we don't act right now, the images that we're seeing, is that going to be -- will that be affecting all of us? will it not just be a pocket here and there but affecting all of us? >> i mean, this is basically what the working group two which published their report last month basically highlighted. with any additional centigrade of warming, you know, the climate-related risks are getting higher. but i think the good news from
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our working group which is basically concerned with climate change mitigation, so policy pathways that can limit warning, is that there are still pathways to 1.5 and 2 degrees but the door is closing p rapidly. so what countries, for example, what countries have pledged in terms of emissions from the climate convention is by no means sufficient. and it's really, really important that those are aligned with, you know, the signs and the emission reduction requirements. if that means taking a substantive step. the report also shows that this can be done. so there are a variety of options in all sectors that can bring us emission reductions at the scale required and also ones that are actually -- that we can afford. >> i want to get a picture of when this is going to start to be unlivable.
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is it our grandkids? is it our great grandkids? is it our great great grandkids? >> i mean, as i said, this is more the other working group. you're asking the wrong expert. i'm more concerned with emission reductions. but i have personally, you know, carried out some research with my group and documented, observed climate impacts around the globe. and astonishing thing is that we can -- across all regions of the world, you know, models can basically -- can observe human-induced warming and we have already, you know, records of changes. so climate impacts that are felt everywhere around the globe. so i think we all see it, you know, we all experience it, but i think the key point is we also
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need to be enabled to act. this is also something that the report really highlights. >> yeah. >> so it's not about -- only about, you know, people bringing the changes, people being enabled to live a low-carbon lifestyle that i think is critical. for that we need to have cities that are walkable. we need to adopt new technologies. we need to add heat pumps in homes and all those kinds of things. and i think that needs -- low-carbon lifestyle needs to be really encouraged. that means, for example, also covering fossil subsidies and pricing carbon. >> certainly. i wonder, though, if we are the kind of species that procrastinates and needs to be completely told how completely under the gun we are in explicit terms for us to make any moves
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on it. because i mean the bells are being rung, stients like you are shouting it from the rooftops and it still doesn't seem like it's met with the urgency it needs. jan minx, thank you for being here. you are an expert we needed. he with appreciate it. and we have some breaking news from the academy. it has just issued a decision on actor will smith for slapping comedian chris rock on oscar night. smith will not be allowed to attend any academy events or programs in person or virtually for the next 10 years. that starts today. that does also include the academy awards. that's it for me today on this friday. hallie jackson picks up our coverage next. up our coverage next. what do you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purpose, and we will work with you every step of the way to achieve it. this is vuity™, the first and only fda approved eye-drop that improves age-related blurry near vision.
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