once in hundreds of thousands to trump's former attorney, michael cohen. now, this was the first got it was actually seized by the u.s. since russia invaded ukraine, and officials say, they're seeking the yachts forfeiture, alleging that it represents the spoils of a the yacht's forfeit chur. as attorney general merrick garland said, just as sweet, it will not be the last. how france's presidential election could have ramifications for ukraine. i'll speak to the french ambassador to the u.s. in a moment. plus, they said what? the republican attack that is so strange, it is just sad. and guess who's back. president obama dusts off his suit and gets ready to hit the campaign trail. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started.

all right. so, as we mentioned, british prime minister boris johnson met with ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy in kyiv. in fact, he promised more armored vehicles and new antiship missile systems, part of a package that includes $130 million worth of military equipment for ukraine. now, recent attacks against civilians, including friday's attack on their railway station, have spurred the international community to act even more. but is it too little too late? yesterday the u.s. said it would send a patriot system to slovakia, following that country's move to provide ukraine with its s-300 defense system. it is a defense system that could have potentially prevented strikes like friday's railway attack. meanwhile, pressure is mounting on the west to weaken russia at its knees by cutting financial ties, banning coal, wood, and

natural gas, making the first eu sanctions that target the lucrative energy industry following the invasion. but missing from those sanctions, for now at least, is the kremlin's real money maker, oil. although australia, britain, canada, and the u.s. have all imposed outright bans on russian oil purchases, the european union's 27 member states have made energy payments around $38 billion since the invasion began. and a crucial election could further upset the balance of power in europe. tomorrow, france, a key nato player, will begin the first round of its presidential elections. and the results could have ramifications far beyond the country's borders. a possibly victory by incumbent challenger marine le pen could destabilize the western

coalition, upending power and giving leaders cold feet about staying in the alliance. joining me now is the french ambassador to the united states. mr. ambassador, thank you so much for coming back onto the program. let's start with ukraine before we get to the french elections. earlier this week, ukraine's foreign affairs minister told nato members his agenda was very simple, when he was asked what he needed. it only has three items on it. it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. is nato giving ukraine what it needs? and do you believe the western world has had the right approach to the war so far? >> thank you, ayman. we have certainly reacted very, very strongly, including the european union. france is the chair of the council of european union now, and we have never had such a swift and strong reaction. and this reaction is crippling the russian economy. and for the first time, the

european union has decided, first time in its history, to buy weapons and to send these weapons to another country, ukraine, attacked by russia. we have already given 1 billion euros, so, yes, we are doing quite a lot. but it is normal that ukraine, which courageously defends itself against russia asks for more help. and we try to provide this help, of course. >> we're obviously seven weeks into this conflict, sir, and there is no end in sight. how prepared is nato -- how prepared is nato to support ukraine in the long run? what do you see are the next steps for nato in supporting ukraine? >> i always think about our nations in general. nato is an important part. and nato with a contribution, a

very substantial contribution, up front is also enforcing its own territory and its instant flank. and we are deploying more troops in romanian, for instance romania or estonia. we as the partners arise. we have started very quick answer, response, and support of ukraine. but we are ready to support ukraine on the long term. on the military level, but as the economic adviser, president zelenskyy said some minutes ago. on the macroeconomic level. and of course also on the humanitarian level. and now there is another way to support ukraine, which is to investigate those crimes which have been revealed one week ago in the north of kyiv. or now we have this attack

against the civilians in kramatorsk. we have ukraine and we continue to help ukraine on all those levels. >> after those atrocities that we saw in bucha, french president emmanuel macron said he wanted the eu to ban russian oil and coal. as i mentioned, $38 million worth of russian oil have been bought since the war began. the eu succeeded in banning coal purchases, but it's still not able to do so on oil. will france push other members of the block to outright ban russian oil in the eu? >> well, first the eu, as we have said, has not only banned coal imports, but in this last package has also extended its

individual sanctions, sanctions against banks, russian banks, no more russian ships and outports and so on and so on. coal is already 4 billion euros a year. it's important. we have to continue to ban exports. as our president said, we are ready to go further, for instance to ban oil. but we, as presidents of the eu, we have to take into account the fact that some other european countries have more difficulties with that. so, yes, you're right. the atrocities in bucha have made us decide that a new threshold has been -- has caused us to make new sanctions. we have decided to do sanctions, and we will be ready to go further. >> mr. ambassador, can we talk about the role france has played in the diplomacy of the war with

russia? president macron's frequent communications with vice presiden with vladimir putin. they have come under negotiations saying, quote, nobody negotiated with hitler. from where you sit, have these talks had any positive impact, the talks between the french president and vladimir putin. the perception was it was just a waste of time and it was not going to actually produce a result. >> well, these comments you mentioned by another european country are not helpful really because we try to keep the unity of european countries. it is not the -- and also of our western allies. it's -- and all the partners who condemned the russian invasion. we succeeded in getting 140 countries condemning the russian invasion in the united nations. so, we need to keep this unity.

and to come to your question, all those calls have been done in close coordination with the ukrainian president. you know the russian president refuses to talk to the ukrainian president, to the courageous president zelenskyy. so, this has been done by our president, by other leaders like the israeli prime minister, the german chancellor in order to pass the messages we wanted to pass to russia, and including the messages we got from volodymyr zelenskyy. so, this criticism is absolutely not justified. >> allow me, sir, to ask you about the upcoming presidential election. i don't want to ask you about any specific candidates. but you have far right candidates. they are gaining traction. if one of them wins, they have talked about wanting to not necessarily get out of nato, but they don't necessarily believe in nato the same way as

president macron. if one of them wins, are you worried that france could join hungary and start down a path of being not as pro-nato as some would like it to be? what's the risk here for france if one of the far right candidates wins this election? >> well, ayman, we are at the eve -- on the eve -- of the presidential election. so, i will, of course, not be able to commend them. i understand the interest which is taken in elections, since france is holding right now the presidency of the european union. france is a dominant member of the security council and united nations. and france is an important player. so, i understand, of course, your questions. the stakes are important. at least french people are able to have this election to vote

for their president and in june for their parliament. this is the right for which the ukrainian people are fighting this war against an invasion and to keep that democracy. so, we have this very important election, indeed. the first round is tomorrow. now, it's for the french voters and the french citizens -- by the way, we have already organized the election for the 130,000 french citizens registered as voters living on the territory of the united states. we had 75 ballot stations across the united states. so, ballot stations. so, you see the democracy is working also, the french democracy, the french elections have started in america. >> yeah, and i can -- i can disclose that my wife was one of those 130,000 who went today and exercised her democratic duty here in the u.s. at a polling

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next week the tennessee state senate is set to vote on legislation that would exclude same sex couples from proposed common law marriage contracts. the anti-lgbtq bill lacked a major detail, an age limit. now it is on track to pass in tennessee, despite same-sex marriage being the law of the land since 2015. now, elsewhere on friday, alabama governor kay ivey signed a bill into law that criminalizes gender affirming care for minors, as lawmakers in

oklahoma approved a near total bill on abortion, making abortion a felony pun shhable by up to ten years in prison. those bills are what count as legislative priorities for republicans just months before the midterm elections with everything else that is happening in this country and around the world. with me now, symone sanders, former chief spokesperson for vice president kamala harris, and host of a show here on msnbc. and kurt, spokesperson for the house oversight committee. it's great to have all three of you this evening. there's a wide group of voters who tune out politics during the year. they check back in right before they have to. do you think the gop is taking a gamble here by focusing so much on these messaging bills ahead of the midterms that really are not of substance in terms of what the american people need or want? >> well, it's clear that the culture wars are back in full force. i feel like i'm reliving the

'90s and early 2000s where you have the christian coalition and the culture conservatives, the moral majority coming back out and really having a lot of influence in the republican party's base. but this has gone really incredibly too far to the right, this type of extremist attack on certain aspects, certain rights in this country that are already affirmed by law. it does run the risk of alienating general election voters, but it shores up the enthusiasm for republicans. this is all about the party base. now, what they need to be careful about in certain -- in other districts because everything is so close on the house and senate side -- is that the enthusiasm gap, which is considerable right now, isn't that the democratic votes aren't surprised. i'm hoping democratic voters look at this and say, we do not want these people in power anymore, and it motivates them to get out and vote. but republicans, this is their

bread and butter. they've been doing this for decades because they know it works and it gins up their base. >> you have states like tennessee, idaho, missouri, they're looking to adopt similar bills like the one in oklahoma that would make performing an abortion a felony punishable by up to ten years in prison. we know these all will be fought in court undoubtedly. but how should democrats in these gop-run states run against these types of bills come the midterms? >> well, look, i think folks have to run races for their districts right in their states. and so in ohio, for example, there's going to be a governor's race. in michigan, where there is a democratic governor, but this is an issue, abortion has bubbled up and the governor has backed the bill in the state legislature to protect the rights, if you will, of roe v. wade. governors are going to be on the front lines. state legislator candidates,

house candidates, they're going to have to talk about these issues. they believe democrats have to focus on the bread and butter -- i'm going to use quotations here -- and don't worry about culture issues. i believe people have to stand on their values. and if there's something that bubbles up that goes against your values, goes against who you would be as a kapd dat, you have to speak out about it. and we can do that, people can do that, and they can talk about economic issues. and like inflation and gas price. that's going to be pertinent for races this fall. and i think the folks that are going to be do well are the people that are going to find the good balance. these -- the bills that you mentioned, ayman, they are -- they're crazy bills, okay? crazy bills. that's what we're going to call them -- people are passing that are not doing anything to affect people's station in life positively. and i think if democrats are going out there running races, that's the way they should talk about it. >> i couldn't agree with you more on all those points.

florida's so-called don't say gay bill has sparked inspiration nationwide. do you think this wave of bills that are essentially anti-lgbtq or anti-abortion rights could be a rallying cry for the democrats ahead of the midterms? could they have a different effect in mobilizing democrats to fight for the values they care about? >> ayman, we always have a saying in politics. never do anything that will motivate the other side's base. never do anything that will incite and excite and help them turn out. republicans are doing just that. for every vote they get on the right, they are mobilizing the left. and at the end of the day, we've got to make it very clear, as democrats, what's really happening right here. all these measures, all these cultural wars, they're being driven because the gop has no tangible solution to american people. every single house republican

unanimously voted against infrastructure bill. they voted against supporting the fastest growing jobs in america. they voted against wind turbine technicians and solar installers. why are they asking big oil why they're profiteering from war right now instead of driving these culture wars that are going after kids? why are they spending so much time going after issues that frankly affect a small minority of the population while the rest of us are trying to figure out how to have better jobs, higher wages, affordable houses, affordable education, better quality health care. they know that they can't win on those issues. so, they go with what i call the rider strategy. it's like butch sun dance and the kid. they would ride the horse so the posse would try to get them. they follow them blindly and get out the other way. that's the to talty of these issues. they're hoping democrats spend all their time, energy, enthusiasm chasing these riderless horses and ignore the issues the american people care

about. >> terry, just a few weeks ago, we had the republican governor of utah veto a bill banning transgender youth athletes from playing on girls' teams. his veto was overwritten by the gop-run legislature, and republicans are calling for him to face a primary challenger in 2024 over that decision. we know the republican party has moved right over the last couple of years because of trump and all other types of forces that were in there. is it safe to say moderate republicans no longer exist and if they do they're going to be cannibalized by the extreme right that has emerged? is there still space for them and their voters within the republican party? >> well, i would say that the republican party -- moderates are unicorns in the republican party these days. the republican party is run by the marjorie taylor greenes and the qanon main streamers. just look at the way republicans behaved during the judge jackson

hearings. this has become who the republican party is. so, for those handful of moderates who are still out there, god bless them. but we need to face the reality of who the gop actually is. but i want to caution my democratic friends about some of these culture issues, particularly concerning kids and schools. republicans know that going after the culture wars in schools and using children and using parental issues -- you have the covid moms -- this is a very poignant and pertinent issue. democrats are losing in the swing districts on these issues because they feel as though the democratic party has swung too far to the left. they cannot ignore this. you look in places like pennsylvania, which is an important swing state, where you have republicans that are out registering, converting democrats 4-1 back to republican versus democrats getting republican votes. that is a problem in a state like that. so, republicans are doing what they need to do to get the votes

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i regret to inform you that republicans have stumbled upon a new favorite word, pedophile. let's be clear here, child sexual abuse is a horrific vile crime.

but somehow the gop seems to have just learned about it a couple weeks ago. at least that's how it seems. if you've been watching the news, all of a sudden they're just calling everyone pedophiles. who exactly? to start, all democrats, the disney corporations, members of the queer community, ketanji brown jackson, and senators mitt romney, susan collins, and lisa murkowski for confirming judge jackson, and also any republican who dares to scratch their head and ask, why are you suddenly calling everyone a pedophile? that is the question we have tonight. my saturday night panel is back to break down this particularly bizarre development. you used to be republican, so i need your insights here. why are so many republicans suddenly addicted to calling all of their opponents from, as i just mentioned, disney employees to mitt romney to supreme court justices pedophiles? where did this come from? >> well, it came from qanon, as i mentioned in the last segment,

which used to be a fringe, whack adoodle theory about democrats and hollywood celebrities killing children and drinking their blood and sex trafficking them. remember pizzagate? he shot up a pizza place because he thought child sex trafficking was happening there. that's when it started bubbling up. it has become main stream because they recognize by using a word like that, it grabs your attention and it puts a label on you that catches people's attention. personally, i think it's irresponsible. i think it's despicable. pedophilia is a real thing, and it's not about protecting children. it's about weaponizing a political issue for political points. and the republicans are feigning outrage now, but where were they with 650,000 people in alabama voted for roy moore, who was actually grooming young girls? where were they with donald trump and his relationship with jeffrey epstein? where are they on matt gaetz,

who's accused right now of child trafficking and pornography of women and prostitution? where are they with all of that? but yet they're trying to make this an issue to try to put this label on political opponents. and i just think it's despicable by them. it just shows you how far the republican party has fallen. this is a desperation thing they're using to message things about pedophilia. >> it seems this could start a civil war within the party, curt. what i find is these pedophile groomer slurs are being weaponized against republicans in addition to democrats. i mentioned senators romney and murkowski. you've got larry hogan being smeared as pro-pedophile for locking florida's don't say gay law. it seems it will continue to have a reckoning within the party. or do you think it won't? >> well, unfortunately, the people that we're talking about here, the last remaining sane

republicans, as i think, they're unicorns. there just aren't that many of them left. i wish that weren't the case, but this is where we are. this is typical of the republican party right now. whatever they accuse of you being, they're guilty of that themselves. turns out they like mark meadows who committed voter fraud whchlt they talk about things like pedophiles and pornography, it turns out there are people within their own caucus who are having their own issues right now. it's not the democrats. it's the republicans. any time you hear any charge levied by the republican party, you have to assume they're covering up. they're worried you're going to come looking at them because it's their backyard, their skeletons in the closet that are really causing these issues. and it just underscores the reality they don't have a plan. remember when joe biden asked, what is mitch mcconnell for? what is this republican party for? they're apparently not for any

ideas, just crazy, hysterical lunacy. and they need to be called out for that. any time they want to redirect the conversation to something this nuts and insane, they need to be challenged by everybody, including the media, to go, okay, fine you said that. what are you actually for? what are you for the american people? what do you need to do for the constituents in your district? that's what matters. all this gaslighting is completely a cover up to hide the fact they have no ideas for the american people. >> simone, the explosion of the groomer slur is particularly dangerous for the lgbtq community. it harkens back to anita brian's conspiracy campaign in the '90s. she spread vicious lies. now that republicans have resurrected this conspiracy, what can democrats do to push back? what should their message be against what republicans are trying to do right now? >> so, i think there's two parts

here ayman. first and foremost, people have to speak with the facts. that's why when we saw the hearing of judge jackson, the confirmation hearing and those repeated questions and those attacks really were lobbed at her about pedophilia. judge jackson pushed back. other senators, namely the democrats on the judiciary committee pushed back. and people outside, advocates in the media, folks pushed back. it's very important that we are just very clear that what people are saying is happening is not in fact happening on this mass scale. i think the second piece is this. there are some people in the republican party that are speaking to a very specific faction of the republican party, qanon. it's not all republicans. and i think we all have a tendency, i know i do it, to paint with a broad stroke brush. it's never all republicans and it's never all democrats. and i think what's most important is people need to -- if we're talking about the midterm elections, people need to run races for their district. and folks need to understand

what their values are. i was very happy to see governor hogan, who i've had a chance to meet a number of different occasions, push back against the ridiculous don't say gay bill in florida. i was happy to see so many others. senator mitt romney stand up for what he knew was right. that's where the majority of the voters in this country are, and those are the kind of folks that people want to go out and vote for. and so i think that we have to make sure that people across the country, that we have a real conversation and not letting the voices of the few bubble up to the top. but also understand that qanon is a real conspiracy that has become a true faction of the republican party, and that's not something that's going to go away in one cycle, in two cycles. folks got to figure out -- that has been embraced. folks who are members of the proverbial qanon caucus, they sit on committees in the united states congress. how are we going to address that?

>> we have an information pandemic in this country. go ahead, tara. >> i was saying this qanon nonsense has metastasized over to our brethren over in the uk. so, this is not just a problem in the united states becoming an international problem, and we cannot ignore that. and when you have republicans, over a quarter of republicans who believe in qanon, it's become as popular as some religions within the republican party within this country. that is a major problem. we have a cultural problem going on with republicans. and where the hell is leadership? where is kevin mccarthy? where is mitch mcconnell? what are they doing with these people that are going out espousing these dog whistles to these dangerous conspiracy theories. it's hard not to paint it with a broad brush when so many people are quiet about it because they're afraid of their base. >> kevin mccarthy is too busy reprimanding representative cawthorn over his comments that the republicans are

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>> now, obama's comments mirrored recent remarks from hillary clinton who said last week that democrats need to do a better job of selling themselves. our panel is back with us. simone, i want to start with you. this is an administration that has accomplished a lot. and so the question about this messaging is critical ahead of the midterms. how effective could president obama be in boosting the morale of democrats and focusing them on that story telling ahead of the midterms? >> president obama can be very effective, but i would also argue that president biden and vice president harris are also the best communicators, frankly, to talk about the agenda and what they've gotten accomplished. president obama is a very popular former president. he is somebody that has been with president biden, lauding his accomplishments from the beginning, really, of this administration. and he is a very important value day tor. but the president and vice president and members of congress, frankly, and governors

who also pushed for pieces of this legislation have to go out and talk about what they did. my advice for democrats, talk about what you did. don't talk about what the republicans blocked you from doing. don't talk about what you couldn't do because of this and that. talk about what you did. child tax credit. the largest investment in public infrastructure in a generation, lowering health care costs for millions of americans. talk about what you did. those other guys, they didn't do too much. they're blocking some of that. and what the democrats did is actually very popular. >> curt, here is hillary clinton on "meet the press." watch. >> we've got a great story to tell. we've got to do a better job of getting out there telling it. for those who say it hasn't gone far enough, that's always the chorus in democratic party politics. >> do democrats talk too much

about things they wanted to do and haven't done instead of things they wanted to do and actually got done? >> one of the things i've observed, saying this as a former republican, republicans are good at being braggadocious. we saw this from donald trump. everything was the greatest thing that happened in mankind under their watch. i think the democrats need more of a little bit of that dna from republicans and brag because they've done historic things. what president biden has presided over is a robust agenda that has produced economic growth, of stabilizing the american people. he has done things that no one thought possible, frankly, and he doesn't get enough credit for that. and democrats don't take enough credit for that at times. and one of the things we're

going to see, think about why president obama was there in the first place, i remember it wasn't that popular at the time. there were people in the party that said it didn't go far enough. now here we are celebrating it as a land mark achievement. that's something to celebrate. that's something to brag about. meanwhile, the other guys, the republicans, they want to take that away from you. they want to take away your health care. they want to take away your affordable prescription drugs. that's the story that we need to tell. at some point along the lines, republicans really became, in my opinion, the big government party. they want government to watch over what you say. they want government to watch over what uk read in school. they want government to watch over what you do in your own bedroom. democrats are about freedom, about true liberty, about choice. and i'll tell you, if the scotus, if the supreme court strikes out abortion rights in the summer, it will ignite the american electorate. be careful what you wish for.

you might have a widespread effect and god help you if you achieve that because that will ignite a boom in this country that can completely upend your midterm strategy. >> tara, let me share something with you that democratic congressman andy kim said. he kind of objected to this tell a better story strategy. he represents a district in new jersey, a district just outside of philadelphia that i should note trump won in 2020. he advises against selling a rosy picture of people's lives and instead meeting them where they are. he said, quote, if you try to come off saying that, oh, you don't understand, you're not looking at the statistics, they're not only not going to listen to you, but they're going to think you're out of touch. does he have a point here? >> 100%. that is the risk that you run. andy kim should know because in that region, particularly in philadelphia right across the river, donald trump actually gained 22% more votes in

philadelphia in 2020 over 2016. i go back to pennsylvania as an example, where the issues in places like philadelphia, which is a democratic stronghold, but they are losing ground on issues like inflation, crime, and immigration. those are things that whether, you know, democrats want to admit it or not, that's what people are being -- are paying attention to in their communities. and republicans are -- will -- they will nationalize the election. they will take those certain issues and they will saddle all democrats with it as out of touch or this is what they want to do, whether they want to or not. so, democrats have to be more aggressive in acknowledging, doing what i call the bill clinton strategy, take a page out of bill clinton's book. i feel your pain. and then take credit for what you have done and tell people what we will continue to do to impact your lives. how will this impact your everyday life?

democrats have a tendency to get into the numbers and into the policy papers. you're not going to win this election with a policy pen. a lot of this is about perception in politics. that's the story democrats can tell. they can take dret for what they've accomplished but they cannot seem out of touch and acknowledging what people are going through every day and what they think is important in their lives. otherwise it's going to be a blood bath in november for democrats. >> can i say one other point to what -- i just -- at the end of the day, we just need to talk to people how they talk. you know, where i'm from in north ohm harks we don't -- i don't generally know about gdp and how the economic growth model is contributing to the groceries getting cheaper at the grocery store. can i find meat in my grocery store? is my gas going down? is my insurance going down? that's how we have to talk to voters across the board.

and it's not just democratic voters. the things we are talking about on this panel, these are things americans care about. we need to just talk to americans because frankly if democrats want to be successful, they're going to need american voter who is also might be republicans. >> you've got to b able to meet those folks where they are because progressives in progressive districts, they're not going anywhere. and republicans in red, red districts, they're not going anywhere. it's the folks in the middle. and that's where those messages resonate. meet people where they are and be relatable. why does this matter to me and what are you going to do to better my life? >> all politics as local as they say. you both brought up excellent, good points. thank you so much for your time. we're going to continue this conversation in the weeks and months ahead. appreciate your insights. next, we have good news for you if you have a student loan. we'll tell you about that. don't go anywhere. tell you abou. don't go anywhere.

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