our dad as an angel. and my brother as an angel on the other shoulder. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline". i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. tonight the war in ukraine has been devastating but not for other factors. we take a closer look about how defending ukraine has been big business for defense contractors. and jordan clothes of love it on hollywood's new -- . plus, what is it you ands climate report the league everywhere? while we're shouting our show with a right now. welcome to the show!

i'm mehdi hassan. we are on track toward and unlivable world. that is where the words of the un secretary general this week. his take away from the un climate report. a highly respected, very scary study that gets updated every six or seven years. the grim warnings in this latest report might not sound familiar because it got also oh no major media coverage. we've been distracted by the war in ukraine, by supreme court hearings, by the state of the economy, but i will supplement slap! more important, issues we'll not slap, but is it more important than planet? the world has been getting warmer. temperatures have increased 1.1 celsius. contributing to the flooding, heat waves, and natural disasters we've seen in the last few years. according to -- . governments came together and pledged to limits that temperature increase to below two degrees before the end of

the century. ideally both low one point -- . and the world might not stay between that two degree range either. in fact, experts voiced high confidence that unless drastic changes are made now, global temperatures could rise more than three degrees celsius by the end of this century. causing severe impacts, they say, for much of the world's population. and well with those drastic changes that are needed look like? well, the panel says that greenhouse gas emissions have started declining in the last few years. and has been reduced over 40% by 2030. coal must effectively be phased out. we must scrap flan for any fossil fuel structure. -- must be reduced by a third, and we have about six times more money in low carbon solutions. all of that by 2030. less than a decade of way. we're almost about halfway through 2022. the administration, and whoever

is elected president in 2024 and 2028 will have to take on the bulk of the responsibility to help save the planet. president biden, when he was running for office in 2020, made some substantial climate promises. >> please false. it falls. >> transition from that industry, yes. i will transition. >> that's a big statement! >> it is a big statement. >> why would you do that? >> because the oil industry pollutes significantly. here is the deal. if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy overtime. and stop giving to the oil industry. i'd stop giving them federal subsidies. >> but the key subsidies -- the key case there is overtime. the un support says that he changes overtime isn't good enough. but at least biden wants make changes. he says he does. but after the surreal education

hearing yesterday, they said high gas prices because of the war in ukraine, meant that the u.s. should be drilling for more oil here at home. >> how about you first get rid of this entire assault from every federal agency had just mentioned, on producing oil in america? none of these rules and regulations apply to russian oil. none of them apply to iranian oil. none of them were applied to venezuela. but that is who president biden is begging to produce oil. stop begging day traders and turn to america's. >> instead of accepting this reality, it continues to shut down american energy. sadly, this should not come as a surprise. we should also build in industry infrastructure in america. like pipelines, an expert facilities. we need to focus on domestic mining, and critical minerals production. that is how we secure our energy future. >> foreign oil?

a domestic oil? it does not matter. less oil is the important part. now, the only silver lining in this entire stressful, infuriating situation is that the un report tells us not to lose hope. they say we have the tools we need to reach net zero emissions before 2050. and they outline a number of options. in fact, some scientists say that having a doomsday attitude about climate change is even more dangerous than being a client denier. both of them in the same, inaction! and that is a luxury we can no longer afford. let's bring in deputy white house national climate adviser. thank you for coming back on the show, this report comes at a time when the build back better legislation, with all the new climate money and it is going nowhere. at the time when the administration wants the saudis to pump more oil to bring down gas prices at the pump. i know we're nozzles refolded

doing, but i am filled with doom! >> mehdi, it is good to be on with you today. and, i think there is room for optimism here. today in the united states, 56 million homes are powered by clean electricity so when i am talking about a solution that is on another planet, the solution that we deploy here in the united states already, and last year was a banner year for deployment and nobles. one out of every seven electrons on the grid was deployed last year. so we are picking up the pace. but we have to go double, and travel time. and that is what the president has been calling for. he made that case in his statement of the unit address. and he is doubling down on that, not only here in the united states, but it is a rule that we have got to make with our allies and partners. you have to keep in mind, going into paris, the roiled was on an over trajectory going into this administration, we were on

a three projection. today, we're in a range of two degrees. is there more work to be done to secure our futures? absolutely. do we need to run faster, and faster? absolutely. but i agree with the solution of the eye fcc. we have the tools, we are investing in them, we need to deploy them as quickly as we can. >> the congressional caucus has urged biden to do more through executive action. you don't have to imagine joe manchin or kristen cinema, like the -- why isn't the white house doing more with this authority? >> i think the president is using the tools that he has available to him. you mentioned the defense production act, he actually use that act to manufacture wildfire fighting equipment when we were seeing those black fires blazing across the mid summer past. he recently signed a presidential directive making sure that we can use that

defense production act authority to build batteries here in the united states. and the critical materials that go into them. batteries will be critical for electric vehicles, as well as for the grid. >> so on that, so given that, when he's also you willing to do with the powers is to use it for infrastructure, declaring national climate emergency and other things they are asking for. >> the presidents plan is comprehensive. and in many cases overlaps with ideas being sourced by across the aisle. and from folks in the progressive caucus. he is using that defense production act authority to advance clean energy, here in the united states. he's using this authority, for example, on methane. four executive actions laid out in november that together will tackle emissions by 75% that is critical for a climate map, that is critical for our public health and safety here in the

united states. he's using a executive authority when it comes to -- just like last week we boosted full academy standard across the gallon. so in every economy, even things as obscure as concrete, and salt. we are working to drive emissions down. boost competitiveness, create jobs, help consumers save money. >> so ali, republicans try to attack joe biden saying that he's declared a war and energy. and the white house is saying, no no! we've approved permits for drilling. how is that a good thing from a pilot perspective? i know politically as to say that, but that can't be you as the deputy climate adviser ken -- >> i think the point that we are trying to make, and i think it's an important one to make, is that there are permits on public plans that are available, and the industry is not using them. so there is this notion that

there is a barrier that does not actually exist. and mattie, i think it's important to lay out the way we approach climate action. it is not to drive a shock to the system. we need to make sure that we are providing those critical, physical, supply shortages relief in the mid near term. we have to meet consumers where they are. and that is somehow in the employment of clean energy. we can do those things at the same time. and we are. >> ali, would you recognize that there is a tension between the political need right now, to bring down gas prices at the pump, and keep democrats in office in the coming midterms, and the climates need for those gas prices to stay high. and for us all not to drive so much, and burn so much fossil fuel? >> i don't think there is a tension between those things. two reasons why. first, i think the political

academy for clean energy and accelerating the deployment of clean energy is boosted by the circumstances we find ourselves in. clean energy deployment can help us cause consumer cost by 500,000 a year. if we make the scale of investments the presidents talking about and cut our dependence on oil, period, by 2 million barrels per day. and, in terms of, the cost. our solution clean energy is driving down consumer costs. giving them away to stable and non volatile sources of energy, that will take less out of their pocketbook, and put less into the atmosphere. that is the solution set. that is the solutions that have been moved forward by day one. and continues to advance, right now, here in the administration admitted and a half in. >> ali sadie, we will have to leave it there. thank you for your time today. we appreciate it.

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by the image of horse and atrocities and ukraine. the russian invasion has killed thousands of civilians according to the un, in addition to estimates of more than 15,000 soldiers on both sides. avoidance of apparent war crimes by russian forces keep mounting. what impact is being felt worldwide as more than 7 million people in ukraine have been displaced by the conflict, according to the international organization for migration. sanctions and the threat of war have to run across and tensions for the rest of us. but as the largest european conflict since world war ii rages on, there is one group that is thriving, defense contractors. >> do you see opportunities right now in this market? and if so, where? >> and any crisis there's opportunity, we see cyber

stocks and defense stocks -- >> we are taking advantage of picking our spots, but we added to -- a couple of weeks ago three weeks ago in anticipation of improvements in the defense spending. >> they are still trading a 20 to 30% discount. >> we had a really solid fourth quarter. at the end of the day, nobody wins in this war. we have the technology used to help in these engagements, whether -- radar systems, other factors we have. >> that is, right in earnings calls, and tv hit since january earnings analysts and -- no bones about the fact that they are in line to profit richly from defense spending. last month joe biden signed a budget that included three and a half billion dollars in military aid to ukraine. that is in addition to two billion and military hardware biden approved over the last year, including thousands of stinger and javelin missiles both made by radiant from help

of lockheed martin. -- now, let's not get it twisted, ukrainians are defending themselves against one of the world's largest land army is. an army that is accused of committing crimes against them in plain view. they need weaponry to stop russian aggression and save their country to end the invasion and killing of -- but those are not the incentives that are facing the defense industry of course. even before the war, in anticipation of a possible russian invasion, their stock prices were going up. in fact, since the start of the new year, lockheed stock has soared 30% while -- have all risen by about 20%. even though the broader stock market indexes down 6% so far this year. ukraine has every right to defend itself, but let's not pretend that war is not big business. consider the only real winners of america's two decades-long war in afghanistan or the d.c.

area defense lobbyists. don't take my word, for take their. after the fall of kabul last summer, ceo told analysts that the firm was going to lose a meaningful revenue stream due to the u.s. withdrawal. quote, that will not recover obviously. those were services we were providing to the u.s. government or afghan government prior, so $75 million goes away. that is the ceo who just a few months later in his earning colin january assured investors that there was loss of potential deadly conflict on the horizon. >> we are seeing, i would say, opportunities for international sales. we just have to look to last week where we saw the drone attack in the uae, which have attacked some of their other facilities. the tensions in the south china sea's, all of those things are putting pressure on some of the defense spending over there. so i fully expect we are going to see some benefit from it.

>> we are going to see some benefit from the war. now the ceos aware of the obvious criticisms as he told the harvard business review last month, quote, while we are a defense company, our goal is to provide our country and allies with the most effective systems to try and prevent just such a conflict we are seeing in ukraine. nobody actually wins in a war. i mean he could argue he's just doing his job, but this is the incentive structure in our capitalist country. the u.s. spends more on defense than the next 11 countries combined. most of that money is not going to service members, it finds the manufacturing of weaponry, weaponry that is solder granted to 100 countries around the world, more than half the membership of the united nations making the u.s. the largest arm stealer on planet earth. last month an annual study by the stockholm international peace research institute confirmed that over the past five years, maracas accounted for more than a third of global arms sales. that is more than twice the

exports of the next biggest solar, russia, and ten times what china sends to its clients. the main recipient is saudi arabia, it gets a quarter of u.s. arms exports including planes and bombs used by the saudis in yemen against the iranian-backed houthi rebels. according to the un, the war has killed an estimated 400,000 people, many of them civilians. in fact the use of so much american hardware against a billion targets by saudi forces has let some in the state department to worry that u.s. officials could be liable for war crimes. the fence contractors are making billions out of the war in ukraine, but not just ukraine, which has every right to defend itself from an illegal invasion, but other conflicts around the world where we end up selling arms to bad guys, not good guys. ask yourself this, does it make sense that our foreign and defense policy, it's so heavily influenced by lobbyist roaming washington year after year,

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also here is andrew, washington editor for harpers magazine and author of the spoils of war. power profit and the american war machine. thank you both for joining me. andrew, what do you make of the billions and security assets, i.e. weapons that biden is pledging right now to ukraine? are there any potential concerns or downsides, and is there a way of supporting ukraine's struggle without also supporting our arms industry? >> well, obviously. not it is what we do, really, defense sales or aid what we are doing now is how we generally express our foreign policy. since we seem to have abandoned diplomacy in trying to end the swore or deal with this war, this is how we express ourselves with weapons. i should say that most of the aid in a way is going to our defense industry, as you

pointed out the amount that is now being expended or thrown at the pentagon far exceeds what we are giving to ukraine. all the happy ceos -- what a great happy days ahead here for the military industrial complex. >> bill, you have rightly been very critical of biden's proposed defense budget. you write that the ukraine crisis should not be used as an excuse to increase the pentagon to already enormous budget, noting the top five companies stand to make more than 150 billion dollars they made in contract in 2020. that is the most recent your statistics. how do you balance though, let me ask you a similar question to andrew, how do you balance ukraine's a very real undeserved needs with the reality that this is also big business for defense contractors? >> well, i think it is inevitable that these companies will make some money in the

defense of ukraine. but 3 to 4 billion dollars versus 800 billion dollars for the pentagon as about half a percent, so i think my real concern is they will exploit this crisis to push for all manners of spending much of which -- it is not like their patriots, they saudi arabia which is using u.s. bombs to kill civilians in the thousands in a war that has killed 400,000 people so, it is almost like they want to use the ukrainian crisis to burnish that image us this -- which is -- not the case if anything -- we're talking about the image of this industry. andrew, let's have a listen to this famous quote from president eisenhower. >> we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of bass proportions. now this conjunction of an immense military establishment

and a large arms industry is new in the american experience. yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. and the councils of government, we must carve and guard against the acquisition of unwanted includes. whether -- , why the military industrial complex. the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists. and will persist. >> andrew you wrote on your subset that if eisenhower gave that speech today he would be banned from twitter and it would count as this information. but in general words, the president's words brings true. it's only been said that we have gotten worse since then, not better. >> yes, it is gone that beyond anything hot eisenhower could contemplate. and, it's become more, he could make that speech, inconceivable that any president would dare

something today. their power, their influence in washington has become so all enveloping. and the fact that these gigantic, almost obscene defense budgets are almost being waved through a bipartisan process is really depressing. it used to be that you had some informed criticism in the senate. against this waste, fraud, and abuse that goes on. in talking about the years, and now no one really seems to have the stomach for it for some members in the house but that is about it, and as you say, now, with the war. i remember during the vietnam poll war, there was someone in california saying don't rock the war in -- . and i think we feel very much for the ukrainians, and they should be supported of course. and we should be doing our best to end this horrible war.

but in the meantime it is seen as a great opportunity, and we will need to untold billions that would spread to ukraine into the great benefits, stock owners. >> on that note, bill, talking about the opportunities of the defense industry, and talking about diplomacy. when it comes to diplomacy, especially when it comes to making decisions to go to war in faraway places. how much do you think the arms industry places a role in centralizing conflict versus conflict resolution in all the halls of power in rushing to d.c.? >> i don't think we're going directly and saying let's having a big war. but the fact that they're pushing for this higher budget, and that's coming with lockheed martin getting 75 billion dollars a year, larger than the budget of the u.s. state department. i think it pushes the cause towards military solutions. >> yes. and just on that, pushing the

cars in the budget. andrew, i have to ask you, what would it take if anything, for the pentagon budget to actually shrink? we descended the largest war in american history last year, a 20-year fiasco in a scans than. you might think that would be the opportunity for a peace dividend? but no, the budget is going on beyond what trump was gonna ask for. where would it take for president to say, actually we can cut defense spending? even if it's by a few million? >> that's a really hard question answer. because, i'll give you good example, in 1991 the enemy that we have been spending a year, decades, a month old. billions of dollars arming ourselves to defend against the soviet union. that was the enemy, and all this so -- that suddenly disappeared. no more enemy! what happens was the defense budget went up a little bit over the last few years and

then started rocketing up again. so, you know, even without an enemy, without the process of any kind of conflict, it does not seem to affect the defense budget. so i really can't -- i cannot imagine these days, a scenario in which the defense budget would be allowed to shrink. when the soviet union disappeared, we suddenly began to hear about china as a competitor. we had to -- now china is a pacing challenge. and i notice that people, one interesting thing and a feature of the current discussion is, even though the russian military is performing poorly in ukraine, they're saying no no, do not take them for granted. they're still very well equipped. there is a fear in the pentagon, in the defense industry, that someone might conclude that hey, maybe they're not such a thread right now all. we don't need to spend all that money. which won't be able to happen.

the defense budget will expand forevermore. >> bill, last more to you. you mentioned earlier, when defense -- and spending money on weapons, they don't think about it in terms of american made bombs dropping on a bus of yemeni children. >> no, they think of it as an insurance policy. it's better, it's for detergents and so forth. they don't think about the fact that the u.s. is counterterror intelligence and military bases, and warns that are being supported for actively engaging in yemen and somalia and libya. i think it is just, there's not enough information, because when we do hear about it, they often are opposed to it. questions -- [inaudible] they're not gonna get the information to understand what our military is really about.

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founder. he launched when it grew breakneck speed, completely disrupting the taxi industry. by 2016, uber was the most valuable start-up in the world, with a 51 billion dollar valuation. scandal would soon follow. there were lawsuits over the classification of drivers as contractors, not employees. incompletes over search pricing, especially during weather emergencies. kalanick gained a reputation for his ruthlessness and machismo, and in 2017 was accused of ignoring sexual harassment and inequality at uber. later that, year just seven years after launching uber, kalanick over signed. now his story has been turned into a showtime series, super pumped, the battle for uber starring joseph gordon-levitt as the disgraced ceo. >> working. 's gods. >> travis is getting in the, way he needs to be checked. >> no one wilson entire sector into being his employees. >> investors are applauding my

demise. >> it has gone too far. i can't lineup with you. i have to stick with the company. >> i am the company! >> i spoke to the shows star earlier this week. just gordon-levitt, thank you so much for coming on the show tonight. i have got to start with the obvious question. why play a guy like travis kalanick? what's attracted you to a person that many would say is a pretty awful human being. was that the attraction? >> well i think it is fun to be bad, right? we all have that beast inside of us that just wants what we want, and will do anything to get it. mostly we did not indulge that side of ourselves, because there are consequences to the very fabric of civilization. but it's fun, and so it is fun to play that guy. and i think it is fun to watch it, to. >> did you speak to travis before the show? did you meet with him? did you know you are doing it? >> i got to speak to a whole

bunch of people that worked very closely with him. i did my research and i read all the press that i could find. but what you see in the press is different from the human. journalists are more interested in what happened. i, as an actor making the drama, and more interested in how it felt. why is the human? what is the nuance? the people that i spoke to did reveal a side to him that is different than what you might find in the press. and in, fact a lot more positive than some of the business decisions that he made might reflect on him. i heard about a very winning inspiring and compelling integrate guy, and so for me the challenge with playing him was planning that complexity. both sides. both his strengths as well as his shortcomings. >> and you do it so well. i would urge everyone to check out your performance. a seriously complicated guy. what is interesting is, joseph, we spent years glorifying wall street bankers. titans. masters of the universe.

the crash happens, they become villains. we spent years glorifying silicon valley, tech bosses and giants, and now they are feelings in many ways. and i think hollywood has done that to. i can't help but notice that the cocreator's of brilliance behind super prompt, going from bobby axelrod to travis kalanick. >> i think it speaks to a larger pattern. it is one of the things that fascinates me most about this story, there is that trend inhumanity that is much bigger than uber or travis kalanick. and that is what happens when the ends justify the means, when you get machiavellian. when profits trump everything. and you say perfectly, whether it is wall street or silicon valley or any other example, these sorts of motivations don't lead anywhere good. the question i think one ought to be asking about the story of hubert's, why is the ceo like travis kalanick kind of forced into making these decisions?

i don't want to defend him, necessarily, but he played the game very well. but he did not make up the rules of the game. >> -- he also broke a lot of, rules obviously. as you demonstrate in the show. >> that is how you play that game. that is what we incentivize in our system. you are allowed to break rules, as long as you make money. and it is not how it should be. this is why i enjoy lefties like you and like me, who think he asked, i am all for the framework it. i am all for entrepreneurship. but there has to be a referee in the game. you have to follow the rules and you can't just step all over everybody because it maximizes your shareholder value. >> watching super pumped is a reminder that money does bayou, at times, impunity in this country. joseph, i will always remember you with a walk from the sun.

>> i'll take, it man. >> part of my youthful years, i think we are around the same age. but you have played, since that show, a number of relive people. edward snowden, travis kalanick, prosecutor were sir richard schultz in the trial of chicago seven, on netflix. i believe you are now working the biopic of late night host johnny carson. what is your calculation you described which figures to play on tv? >> it is an interesting question and i don't claim to have any logical method for it. it is very intuitive. when i feel inspired. one thing i think you could say about all of those relay people is that they are complicated. and of what we were just talking about. i don't think anybody is an absolute center or st.. and far too often, stories to reduce people into those kind of simplistic categories. so i love portray human beings that have done incredible things, but also have their vices or their moments of

weakness. i relate. not that i have done incredible things, but i think all of us can relate to having our good days and our bad days, and feeling like hypocrites, and feeling complicated. that is just part of being human. >> the complexity and the nuance is very clear in some of the roles who have taken on. joseph, you move your family to new zealand at the start of the pandemic, and it praised the prime minister there for her handling of the coronavirus. what was that like? living in new zealand? and we look at america today, approaching tens of millions of people refusing to get vaccinated, 1 million covid deaths a day, what do you make of it? >> i felt really lucky. i was in the middle of production when the pandemic hit, and we did our very best to try to get that production up and remounted during the pandemic. and we just couldn't. and my intrepid producers had the idea to go try to shoot in

new zealand. and we were able to go there. and yes, we lived for about a year without covid. and it was incredible. it is worth saying, new zealand is an island of five some million people. it is a very different task to keep covid as a country like that versus out of the united states of america. but absolutely, just in the prime minister of new zealand, i think is a model later that all world leaders should aspire to be like. the way that she speaks, the no nonsense clarity, the honesty, the transparency, and the adherence to evidence, science, reason. i think we probably could have saved a lot of lives in our country had we taken a page out of her playbook. >> there are these bizarre we are the extremes. you don't need to have zero covid deaths, but you don't have 1 million either. i'm sure we define a place it

was not new zealand, but was not the car crash that we had in this country and continue to have. joseph, you are not afraid to air your opinions. you talked about being a feminist. you called trump a clear despots. you have criticize a police two, which is seen as heresy in mainstream political circles. i was going to ask, your mother ran for office, once are you going to? it would be good if you did. >> that is very kind of u sounds like a hellish way to live. but i have an extreme amount of admiration for the people who do run for office. i have got to admit, growing up in the era of george w. bush etc, it may be cynical and dismiss that path. i never considered doing that. it does seem like, if more people were willing to step up and serve in that regard, it would probably help. i am no i'm not setting the's

best example, because here i am working on shows and movies and staff, and answering your question with a negative response. it is not something i tend to do. >> i'm hearing a maybe. joseph, i'm hearing a maybe. >> how is that the maybe? >> last question then, before i let you go. i used to work for and a half and ten at the half post, who is a new board member, and he's played by the amazing who matt thurman in a super packed. she nails ariana's legendary accent. that must mean a lot of fun, working with whom with herman as aaron huffington. >> zuma playing area is literally my single favorite part of this show. it is worth watching just to see her do it. and of course, i am an enormous in with herman fan. from pulp fiction, kill, bill to so many. after that he terry gillian. schumer thurman is such a consummate artist. and she nails this character. so i'm happy to hear you, who worked personally with ariana,

can corroborate how zuma's performance is. >> it is fantastic, as is yours. those are gordon-levitt, thank you so much for your time. you can watch the finale of super pumped, the battle for uber, on showtime. thank you so much joseph gordon-levitt. >> we'll. vaccine first, a programming. out starting sunday, you'll be able to find the show on the new msnbc hub on peacock. it is a new experience coming to peacock where you can stream some of your favorite msnbc shows on the man. you can find it, brows, and stream this show anytime. no pieces of the mighty hassan show will post every day, monday through thursday. we will be right back. ht back. ♪ ♪ ♪

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