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and a 47 of russia's invasion of ukraine. this is also my final day here in ukraine, on this trip which has been five, weeks three countries and countless tears. shed bearing witness to the stories of ukrainian people fleeing violence while trying to stay alive amid an unprovoked an inhumane invasion. that invasion rages on today. having retreated from the north, russia continues to focus attacks in the east in the south. launching new attacks in kharkiv and odessa. the latter of which remains under a weekend curfew, following the russian ballistic attack on the kramatorsk train station in eastern ukraine. russia is also continuing the brutal offensive in the dystopian urban battlefield that has become variable. the medieval wreckage left behind by the russian forces in the suburbs of kyiv continues to be reveal. in bakary, about an hour west of the capital, the mayor says 132 bodies have been buried in

mass graves. and estimates that 40% of the town is destroyed. russian forces also once again blocked humanitarian convoys from entering three different cities to evacuate civilians, once again breaking an agreement with the red cross. in kyiv, we continue to see small signs of resilience, life insisting on some sort of normalcy. including this, the british prime minister boris johnson making a surprise visit yesterday to the ukrainian capital. as you can see, the british embassy even tweeted a surprise along with a winking emoji. for a meeting with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. the two leaders, along with a well armed security contingent, then defiantly strolled the streets of the capital. they spoke with several citizens of kyiv. the european union, which is reportedly set to grant ukraine candidacy status in the next few months, says its reopening its embassy in kyiv. italy also says that it intends

to do the same thing in the coming days. following surgery from in and around kyiv, russia used to be regrouping and reorganizing. however, vladimir putin has reportedly placed general alexander during a, caveat of, his in charge of russian forces in this war. u.s. and western intelligence has reported that, up until now, russia did not have a central battlefield commander. javon cobb has extensive combat experience. in syria, overseeing russia's brutal -- on behalf of bashar al-assad, which included indiscriminately flattening cities and targeting civilians. something we've seen signs of here in ukraine. as well as the use of barrel bombs and poison gas, things that we thankfully have yet to see in this war and hopefully will not. for the syrian atrocities, that now 60-year-old devoid of kabul was awarded the hero of the russian federation award. speaking of atrocities, the commissioner for human rights has made a horrifying accusation alleging that more

than 121,000 ukrainian children have been forcibly taken by russian military forces to russia. that official, and russia's political advisor on children's rights, also asserts that the kremlin is crafting legislation that would create a fast track program and which russians could adopt those children. this is essentially a policy of stealing children and indoctrinating them. not only is this actually evil, it violates established you and rules. to the un, so far, has seen powerless to prevent these russian atrocities from occurring. there have been multiple allegations in the past several weeks, from the east in the south, notably from mariupol. of ukrainians being forcibly taken to rush against their will, without their passports and their cell phones. in addition to the deliberate targeting of civilians, the forcible deportations, which are essentially kidnappings, also appeared to be part of russia's unwritten military

doctrine. russia has a history of systemic destruction of a culture. in the country of georgia, in chechnya and, most recently, in ukraine in the donbas region than in crimea, beginning in 2014. now it has happened again, in 2022, before our eyes. it is never again in realtime. joining me from kyiv, foreign correspondent molly hunter. molly, the british prime minister surprised the word world yesterday by visiting kyiv. that is a big message for the ukrainians. also a big message for russians and the world. >> yeah, ali, big message. seriously significant. but i actually want to quickly pick up on what you are talking about about those forced deportations. that is a story we've been chasing really hard, that we've been trying to get reporting on. specifically out of mariupol, which has been incredibly challenging because we have not been able to physically go there. a few days ago the, i just want to share, we actually met a young woman who had escape from mariupol who had shared with us

how she witnessed, personally, these forced deportations working. she didn't mention children specifically, but we are asking her, did you see anyone who was forced to go to donetsk or russia? she explained one of the reasons, this was the first time i heard this from a civilian inside mary opal, ali, she explained that one of the ways they were doing this was the buses from zaporizhzhia and burton's coming in intended to bring ukrainians further west to zap alicia, they were actually being commandeered, stolen by russians inside mariupol. russian troops. they were switching the signs and they were forcing people to get on these buses that were only heading to donetsk. the messaging at the bus stop, all of these people were lining up hoping to evacuate from mariupol to is a preached, they were switching the science and announcing that the only option was to go to russia. she said she actually got on one of these, buses escaped and got a private driver and got to

zaporizhzhia. i wanted to share that anecdote, because it has been really hard to share, that ali. really quickly though, on kyiv, extraordinary. we will only hear more and more reports like that, but that is the first hand eyewitness report have actually witnessing those forced deportations. here in kyiv, though, and surprise we missed boris johnson walking around yesterday. two quick messages it sends. one is that kyiv and say, look, here is a british prime minister walking around without any body armor, he is walking around the capitol with president zelenskyy. the second is on the zelenskyy front, he is doing what he has done so well in the last five weeks. he is keeping western attention focused on ukraine. he is keeping ukraine at the top of the agenda and, when you see ursula von der leyen or in bucha the other day, and you see boris johnson in kyiv, that certainly sent a message to the rest of the world that this is important, stay focused on this and help us out. >> it is important, we need to

stay focused on it. and your stories every night are helping us. molly, you know i'm going back, but you are going to be here for a while. we are going to make sure that those stories that you bring us every night make it on to our tv sets and our viewers can see them. molly, thanks again, we'll talk to you later. nbc's molly hunter, in kyiv, she is on the capital of ukraine. joining me now is the retired military colonel alexander vindman. he's charge of european affairs for the security council, and author of the important book here, right matters, an american story. colonel vindman, i want to talk about something that you have said to us many times over the past weeks. i'm not 100 percent sure our viewers know what it means. but, with respect to the weaponry that ukraine has been asking for from the west, you discuss something called a lend lease program. something that united states congress has now overwhelmingly approved, what is it and how will it help? >> it will be a huge improvement in the kind of support that we would be providing ukraine. and a lot of, ways this would

be finally getting off the sidelines for a reluctant administration, a reluctant national security council. what it would mean is that we actually start taking a longer view of the fact that this will be a protracted war and start looking to train ukraine on more advanced weaponry, western weaponry. not just -- weaponry. in a lot of, ways it means that we're pushing equipment further to the border in poland, the border in hungary, if they allow. it to the border and slovakia in romania. ukrainians couldn't start to dry out equipment as they need. it they don't make a request and that it has to sit in some sort of bureaucratic process, it doesn't have to be then transported, which takes some time. it's already there for them to draw on. that is the part that we need to start working, on the implementation. that is -- right now ukrainians are doing a great job receiving equipment from all these donor countries that are coming in individually. we need a coordinator coming in

on the ground, like a war czar, like we had a covid star. but someone to coordinate these 30 countries that are donating equipment and making sure they are prioritizing get to ukraine when they need. to that it's a part that is now starting to shape up. it's probably going to be another week or two, but we're starting to at least move in that direction. it's going to have a significant improvement in ukraine's ability to sustain and those who are. >> colonel, if you had not talked about the phone call between donald trump and volodymyr zelenskyy, you might still be in your job advising on this very war from a military national security perspective right now. if you are doing so, he would've heard mark milley and secretary austin and secretary blinken say that this is going to be a long war, it's not going to end quickly. evaluate, for me, what that means. if this is a long war, is that advantage ukraine or advantage russia? >> i think it's advantage

russia. russia is a country of 140 million people, has but and less military material. a lot of it is old, antiquated soviet era equipment but they have depots as far as the eye can see. and along, or a grinding war, it's something that definitely favors the larger state habitually. in this, case you have a lot of support coming in from the west. but it can't be this incremental trickle, it has to be the lend lease program that we are talking about. frankly, we could see a much shorter war. this is a war that has been going on for years, but we could see a much shorter war unfold over the next six weeks if ukraine gets the equipment they need, if they get the long range fires, the long range strike capabilities in the next 4 to 6 weeks. they could really grind down the remainder of russia's capable military force in the donbas. that is what prevents russia from achieving its military objectives and compels them to

go to negotiations. and then we don't have to see the stealing of children in large parts of ukraine. which is, in fact, and establish procedure. this war is not just about territory, it's about people. they want the people, because russia is on the losing end of its demographics for itself. it's only been about people. the stealing of children, the stealing of ukrainian citizens populating ukraine, hopefully towards russia. this is part of the whole objective of this. war i think, the sooner we can end this, the sooner we can end this humanitarian crisis, this genocide of sorts. we're not there yet, but that is where russia's headed, that's where russia's rhetoric is headed and we can avert this. >> it does appear to be going in that direction. colonel, you have taken incoming fire for your own guidance and advice about this war and, yet, since the beginning of this, since weeks before, this everything that you have said would happen as turned out to be true. retired colonel, alexander vindman, former director of

european affairs at the national security council. he is the author of here, right matters, an american story. we thank you for your time, sir. coming up this morning on velshi, the united states energy secretary jennifer granholm will join the conversation next hour. we're going to ask her about america's plan to lower gas prices and how the biden administration can help europe get off of russian energy. plus, part two of my conversation with a group of young people here in lviv, and how they're dealing with family members who are steeped in false, russian propaganda about the war. and, more things that russia doesn't want you to believe. the copious attacks on ukrainian health care facilities, now totaling more than 100. i'll talk to a member of the famed doctors without borders team, whose colleagues witnessed one such attack firsthand. you're watching velshi, live from lviv. from lviv. it's still the eat fresh refresh™ and subway's refreshing everything like the new honey mustard rotisserie-style chicken. it's sweet, it's tangy, it's tender, it never misses. you could say it's the steph curry of footlongs.

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knowledge of global local fixtures, translators, and most of all local journalists. my next guest has lived in ukraine on and off for 26 years, it is been 14 years as the executive director and mentor of the kyiv post, ukraine's premier english language newspaper. i'm joined now by brian brawner, the head of geopolitical intelligence services, which provided vice on politics and geopolitical trends. as mentioned, he's the former executive director of the kyiv pole post. thank you for being here brian. i think it is important for people to understand it understand ukraine in that what is happening there is the very tip of a very big and very deep iceberg of geopolitics. it is a message that ukrainians, members of parliament, and the ukrainian president has been screaming at the top of his young's lungs to the west.

this is not a little problem of a little country being taken over by its neighbor, which seems to believe it belongs to them. this is much more serious >> oh yes. however you want to frame, it democracy versus egalitarianism, barbarian-ism, it is there. unfortunately, the key post has been in business since 1995. the misfortune of being there during the revolution, the start of the russian war. warned about it, but not everybody is focused on the threat. and so they become very imminent and very serious, as they are here now. >> tell me what do you think the biggest developments in the last week's. the last week has been a turning point. we saw horrible images which just allowed you to look away or suggest that this is not what it is. but since then, we are seeing

more european companies are shutting off or trying to shut off gas and oil. although not enough. we have seen finland and sweden talk about joining nato. we have the eu coming in here in fast-tracking ukraine's membership in the eu, which is what triggered the 2014 invasion of crimea. there is some big stuff happening, but he is not actually enough to stop this invasion. >> no, it's not. the eu, this is a great slogan. your battle is our battle. we are not asking. it is not most -- but it is still not enough. the biggest thing is that 46 -- is more they are still buying a billion dollars a day in oil and gas. a very long timeline for itself from this threat. building into the kremlin. and it has been -- germany was warning for years and years that they would become independent, it is very

dangerous to be dependent on the kremlin. but the need for the timeline, not for ten years, five years, one year, but now. disconnect russia from the economy, from the world economy. apply sanctions. exercising much more to be done right away. the encouraging part -- >> i don't know if that's something -- go ahead brian. >> in the last week, after we have seen bucha, we have much worse -- after we get into mariupol and some of the other cities where russian forces or and are. for -- for instance. but on the weapons front, slowly big positive signs are happening. i was just reading that slovakia is talking about giving fighter jets to ukraine.

that is 300 missiles. i think the dam is breaking their. the west seems to act with a greater sense of urgency hudak as the rothrock throws, that this is their focal true, not only ukraine. if their nation was being attacked, they would act a lot more quickly. >> brian bonner, thank you for your analysis. i would recommend that my viewers follow you on twitter. because you post a lot of these things that are sort of beyond what we know, and we just consume this on cable tv. so i support this. brian bonners eager to after of the kyiv post. it is not safe for those inside russia, by the way, to criticize the. war in fact, they can't even call it a war or an invasion without fear of imprisonment. now russians are reportedly turning on each other. even more reporting about that next. next to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings.

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ukrainians, it split some russians. russians are reportedly turning on each other, spurred by president vladimir putin's far reaching laws that criminalize dissent. the new york times says that, quote, there are reports of students turning in teachers, people telling on their neighbors, even diners in the next table. and the mall in western moscow, it was a -- display in the computer repair store and reported by a passerby that got the stores on or detained. my next guest is a member of the ukrainian parliament. he tweeted messages that he received from this russian, who was volunteering with the ukrainian civil defense. the russian volunteer details the atrocities he says he witnessed at the hands of russian troops poured in the months it reads, quote, i want this war to insulate ukrainian children are not being killed anymore. so the aircraft bombs are no longer dropped on peaceful cities. you, in russia, want the war to end so you can devour a big

buck and boiler kia drug sir. two newly for mariupol is dimitri -- he received those messages from the russian volunteer. he's a member of ukrainian parliament. he represents a district in the northwest of kyiv. he is also spent more than a decade in moscow, and has family in mariupol. mr., thank you for joining us. first, i want to ask you about this idea. you know russians have been talking to russians about russians fighting against each other. there are still russians who are against this war and this invasion, and they are trying to make themselves heard. but we are hearing lessons about this every week. >> there is really some weird things that have happened with russians. putin's 20 years of propaganda, in their education system and in their history, their history

books. we cannot understand it. and you, trust me, can understand. again. what is going on with the occupied territories. it is not war, it is not war crimes. it is just pure evil. they rape children. they kill animals. very weird things, that you don't hear discussed in ukraine. it is not in use, usually. they shut everywhere. like in the middle of living rooms. kitchen tables. we don't understand what is going on. and trust me, also. and that is what happened with people in 20 years of an freedom. so these occupiers, they act like we cannot expect. and it is the story where we predict they are logical, but

they are not. and in europe, everybody thinks that it is possible with more for the european union, because they are in -- but it is not true. the logic does not work with them. you were talking in your use. you are talking about things that you cannot imagine. which people will say, the war's war. you have to go in future years to jail. it is not something that -- >> unbelievable. yeah. let me ask you about mariupol. your parents are there. what can you tell me about the situation in mariupol? it is hard for us to get news out of that. >> not already. we don't really have news from mariupol. it is totally -- close feeding now. information coming to you. my parents went out, i took

them through the church of russia. it was the only possibility for thousands of people to run from the constant shelling. and it was a pretty interesting adjustment. my mother, we took care through, we had a -- shoe so that everybody on the ukraine plates on their cars. and everybody looked at them like life to some kind of -- people. people with the plague. everybody said, what they're doing here? people said to them, we are -- you. >> and my mother, said why deliberation? here i don't have a house anymore! my house was this whole building, nine story building, 200 apartment, shot by --

and what deliberation is it? they asked, do you know the answer is? so we cannot imagine, and we cannot understand it. that's something that we have seen 80 years before in germany what i have done without propaganda and with those people. and now in mariupol, someone in russia could have the same story. this war will not and in ukraine. they are saying with that propaganda, on the central tv channel, that they will go to the european council. and then, in the evening programs, they will be discussing, doesn't have to be poland or politics day? so it is coming. >> the baltic states. >> territory on the border of ukraine, european, yes. >> the baltic states in poland are the ones who are taking this most seriously, because

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three european countries, covering the war in ukraine and the humanitarian crisis that stem from it. day after day, i brought you some of the most horrifying images, so that we can all, together, bear witness to the atrocities taking place at the hands of the russian government. however, if you're just a regular person living in russia, you might not know just how gruesome this battle has been. or why it even started. due to the flood of russian

propaganda to which you are subject. russians are not even allowed to call it a war, without fear of imprisonment. this, week i spoke candidly with four ukrainian residents, all in their 20s, about how the war in the portrayal of it in russia has strained their relationships with their family members. most of their parents either live in russia or in russian control territories of ukraine, and they tend to not believe what is plainly true about russia's war on ukraine because of what they're being told by russian state media. the attack here, in lviv, did they change anybody's opinion and your family? did it make them think differently, that your hair? >> no. >> obviously, not yeah. they just think that whatever destruction, whatever casualties, happen, it's just ukrainian government and the west to blame. because they were provoking russia, they wanted to exploit

ukraine against russia somehow. so, these are just very illogical statements of russian propaganda. so, they explain to them what was going on and why. i don't think any kind of damages or any kind of deaths, any kind of pictures of the people or destruction can change them. the only hope is that they change this opinion after ukraine wins this war and russia will face all the severe consequences, maybe even a regime change. maybe then tv in russia will share something different. >> this is so interesting. you listed all the things that could happen. to, you that's the biggest thing. the fact that these people are tricked by the media is the cause of all of this. >> yes, speaking about our families and the relationships, yeah, definitely. propaganda is to blame.

>> and you feel the same way? that your mother is influenced by propaganda? >> yes, of course. >> does she, would she, nowhere to get information other information? >> yes. but she, i don't know what she thinks. >> she is not looking to do that? she believes the information she's getting is accurate? >> i think, yes. but i'm not sure, i don't know. >> how do you feel this is going to go? talk about when ukraine wins this war, do you believe that? >> i believe that, of course. it's just a matter of time. we hope it's going to be faster, and it will be less ebullient deaths. but we understand that the russian army is not strong, it's just big. so, it's long. they have a lot of people they can mobilize, they have a lot of military equipment. of course, we have the anti-tank, the anti carrier. but the powers are on equal. >> christina, do you share that view, that ukraine will prevail in this war? >> yes.

>> you definitely think that ukraine will prevail and that's why? >> yes, i do, so. not only me that believes, but i think a lot of experts. anybody in the world who follows they see that russians were defeated near kyiv, so they want to prepare some attacks. but we also have a cousin who is in the military now, i had a conversation with him. >> ukrainian military? >> yeah, yeah. i love a small fundraising campaign at my work to get money for night vision devices for his unit. i had one conversation with him. he is an air defense, by the way. so, he definitely knows from where the shelling start. even his aunt, his mother already passed away, but her, sister his aunt, doesn't believe him. however, his information is the most trustworthy information one could get about the war. a lot of sources of reliable information say that ukraine is winning and that ukraine will

win. but it is our task to keep up the spirit and help as best as we can, where we are. i think the spirit that people around have, everyone is optimistic and everyone wants this horror to end as fast as possible. get back to normal life, get the russian troops away from the country. and everyone is contributing in this. with this, there is no chance we don't wind. >> when we win this war, after this, we will have enough time to be sad, to pay enough attention to all the people who are harmed by this war and stuff. but now, it is our duty to stay focused and to do our best, in order to win. because, if we now were to say it's a bad we will lose and stuff, in this case that we

will for sure lose this war. but we can't do this. in fact, this is one of the reasons why i broke up all relations with my parents and relatives from crimea. these kinds of conversations, they disturbed me. they are really destructive. i can't spend my resources on this, it's about a people from here, from ukraine. now we should stay focused on victory. >> the conversation was eye-opening, it was insightful. i'm thankful to each of those individuals, christina, anastasia, our time and andre, for sharing their stories with me. up, next i'm joined by opposition -- you're watching, velshi live from lviv. from lviv. and forms an antibacterial shield. try parodontax active gum health mouthwash. ♪

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conversation with for ukrainians for turning to wash about the war and the portrayal over the russia, and how it has strained relationships within their families. i am going to talk to somebody from inside russia about what his fight against what he believes to be state produced disinformation, is it working. vladimir -- is a politician and historian who is twice suffered sudden severe illnesses that the police were brought on by deliberately poisonings while in moscow. i asked you to be sharper speaking out against russian human rights abuses, and lobbying for u.s. sanctions against russia. vladimir carlos joins us now from moscow. and i need to know the under a law signed that last night, president putin said that everybody inside russian who bears with the kremlin's considers to be false information about what it refers to as its special military operation in ukraine, could face up to 15 years in prison. that is the reality that is facing russians who speak of or

criticize this war. with that, vladimir, tell me your experience being an opposition leader inside russia, right now. >> [inaudible] false reality has been created by the putin regime here in russia. this russia is leading the way. not only are you not allowed to criticize the. war you cannot even call it a war. it is a criminal offense, in russia. anybody who calls a war a war could get up to 15 years in prison. it is important to say that this does not just target people like myself. opposition politicians and journalists and activists. a few weeks ago, a russian orthodox priest in the region of -- not too far from moscow was arrested after his sermon, because he spoke out against war. because he spoke against

killing people. he was then convicted and fined. the second time it becomes a person offense. he was convicted for speaking out against the war. this is the reality of vladimir putin's russia. this is really george orwell's 1984 come to life. we must destroy slavery, ignorance, strength. i must say that it is very important for us, for international audiences to know this. despite these tremendous laws. despite this total propaganda blackout that has been imposed by vladimir putin's regime, since the start of this invasion of ukraine. because i don't forget, since the 24th of february, since putin launched his war in ukraine, all the remaining independent media outlets here in russia have been shut down. moscow radio, tv reagan, and i can go on and on. opening twitter or facebook or instagram now, the only way to

do it is if you have the special vpn services. it is a total blackout. it is a total -- that has descended last year. and despite this, there are been thousands of people all across russia who woke up to protest against this invasion. woke up to protest against this war. according to the latest count from human rights groups here, more than 15,000 people were detained by police since the 24th of february, for demonstrating against putin's invasion of ukraine. for saying, this is not a war. for saying, this is not being done in our name. when the soviet union invaded czechoslovakia, -- came in on the red scare in moscow to protest. they saved the honor of the entire russian nation at the time. but today there are not seven, not 100, not 1000, but hundreds of thousands of people coming out to say no, this is not my. wore this is putin's war. this is not a war conducted by the russian people.

>> some of the independent media outlets of what you speak have relocated. one has gone to london, one is gonzaga, latvia. one is going to amsterdam. a number of opposition politics have also left the country to try to continue their fight from their. are you worried about speaking out against the russian government, and against this war and invasion from russia? >> -- the dangers, prices being in opposition to the regime. bridge next to the kremlin were my friend is quoting russian opposition -- who was gunned down in february 2015. no chance that he would've done an opposition. this is the price of opposing the putin regime in russia. i myself, as you mentioned, have been twice poisoned. the security service was recognized by media investigation, published last

year. we have hundreds of political prisoners in russia. two weeks ago there was another sham trial with a leading political opponent. his person said this was increased by a further nine years. for nothing except being a opponents of vladimir putin. we all have a price. but we also know that there are millions of people in russia who categorically oppose the putin regime. both in terms of domestic oppression in terms of the external regression. we know there are many people in russia who want our country to be a democratic european state. i think it would be very -- if those of us with public faces with all of us leave the country. i do not want to condemn anyone for this decision, but if you are asking about me, i'm a russian politician. russia is my country, russia is my home. >> i am worried for you my friend. you will be the source of

information for many years. i worry on your behalf. the conversation that i just had with some young people here in lviv, whose parents are either in crimea or russia. they seem either unwilling or unable to get independence or some kind of journalism that is critical of the russian regime. why does the effect of that? when people either won't or cannot get good information. how does this and for russia? >> -- vladimir putin's regime. when he came to power, a dark, ago it was independent television. because that was a source of information for citizens of russia. most of the people get their news from there. literally on the fourth day, on the fourth day after his inauguration as president russia in may of 2000, but you have the security service rear with the private media holding at the time.

and then three years of putin's rule. but the middle of 2003, every single independent nation on television that was in russian got shut down or taken over by the state. and so we have a whole generation here in this country who of grown up with the backdrop of this government sponsored propaganda. up until recently, the beginning of march, there was some small remaining island of independent media here. moscow radio. listen to about 3 million people. which is not much in the country of 130 million. that was a large source of information, at least four people in the big city. that has been shut down. other media outlets are being destroyed by putin, since the start of his war in ukraine. let's not forget, putin launched two wars in february. one was his aggression against ukraine, which continues to this day. the other was a very swift and effective blitzkrieg against independent media in russia. the information packet and the war on censorship now was complete. yes it is a problem.

after 20 years of brainwashing, it does have an effect. yes, there are many people who believe what the propaganda is telling them. but it is also very important that respected russian media organizations do not repeat uncritically those so-called opinion poll numbers. and a collection of a -- russian citizen somehow support the suppression. this is not the case. those people who repeat these figures, so much of the play on putin side in the war. because putin wants you to think that most russians are on the site. and that is not the case. -- in an authoritarian state, where people have no access to objective information. and where people would be afraid of potential consequences. i could just tell you, on a personal level, not a day goes by without somebody approaching me on the street and shaking my hand, here in moscow. asking to take a picture of me and say, thank you for what you are doing. these are people who are not

afraid to do that. many people in russia oppose this criminal aggression, just as much as people in the free world to. that is an important message to remember. >> vladimir, please stay safe my friend. he is a russian opposition politician and author. after the, break i am joined by members of the famed doctors without borders, whose colleagues witnessed an attack on the health care facility in ukraine last week. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good. wayfair's got just what you need to be outdoorsy. your way! shop the biggest selection of outdoor furniture and furnish your habitat from you habitat. get a new grill and cook over an open flame. now that's outdoorsy! go wild on garden decor. find shelter from the elements and from predators. or just be one with nature. this year spend less

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in lviv's alex weighed. the coordinator with doctors without borders. responsible for efforts bringing urgent medical assistance to the people of ukraine. alex, thank you for being here. you are doing remarkable work. this is not new to doctors without borders, to go into conflict zones. but as i have talked to you over the last few weeks, the springs here are even greater

than they normally are, because of your safety not being guaranteed, and supply chains with medications, going into places where they are stuck without medications. >> correct. it has been an enormous challenge. unfortunately, in places where need is the highest. places like mariupol, where you can only imagine how extensive the needs are. but we can confirm with their own eyes and make direct contact. even outside of those areas, in places like mykolaiv where we experienced a team on the ground assessing the health needs, and trying to help certain centers experience what they thought was -- coming into the city, it just shows the challenges that we are facing as we try to do our job. >> there was a time, whether media or the red cross or msf, where those were not groups that were targeted. what we have seen in this war's health care facilities being targeted. obviously i'm offense has seen this in the past. this complicates things.

when it comes to maternity care, you can't delay that. when it comes to dialysis, people need their medical treatments. and yet they are seeing medical facilities and other things being attacked. >> the question is a difficult one. it is hard to say, what is damage? it shouldn't be happening no matter what. it is a legal question at the, and if they were truly targeted. those who are investigating that, or the media investigating that. whether they would be targeted or not. they should be, targeted they should be safe, they should be able to access those structures without fear of bombs. >> how do you work that logistically? are you in contact with the russians and the ukrainians, at any given point, trying to bring help in? >> yes. as you said, we have decades of experience working in conflict zones. in some ways, this conflict is no different from any other. as a mutual in pop --

act, or we will try to negotiate access for the people in our teams to bring humanitarian aid to the people that are suffering. >> what are people suffering the most? obviously there are injuries and they wore things that happened. but we don't know you seeing because outside of the ordinary? one of our highest partner since the beginning of the war has been getting lifesaving medicines and medical supplies to hospitals, to treat more wounded. we are now seeing, more and more hospitals communicating the need for people with chronic conditions, people who need access to insulin, people with high blood pressure. people with conditions where, if access is interrupted over a longer period of time, can suffer bigger health issues. >> what you do for people like that? people who need longer treatment? cancer, something like that. they are trying to get. west to poland, hungary, other countries. do you help coordinate? not how is that coordinated? when the notions getting a treatment where they, are how can they get?

>> there are different strategies. one is trying to bring donations into the areas where those people are, access them, that is not always the case. trying to bring people up to areas where they can have access. we also have what we call mobile clinics. medical personnel, doctors and nurses, who will go to where the people are. where they are sheltered, where they are gathered. able to treat people on the spot and give them the medications that they need. especially people are mobile, we tried to give them everything they will need while they are on the move until we can get them another half of the facility. and also refer serious cases to the hospital. >> alex, we are grateful for the work that you do when you organization does. the thank you for staying safe. you can support this organization, by the way. and there were people actually asking, what can we do? to help in this war? these are people on the ground trying to save the people most affected by it. do not go anywhere, there is a lot more of what you need to know this sunday morning coming

up. the u.s. and treat secretary jennifer granholm joins the show. another hour of velshi live from lviv begins right now. ns right now >> good morning, it is sunday april the 10th. day 46 of the war in ukraine. it is four in the afternoon, here in the western ukrainian city of lviv. i'm ali velshi and, after several weeks encircled by russian troops, the capital region of kyiv is now safe enough for world leaders to visit. yesterday afternoon, the president of the united kingdom, boris johnson, made an unannounced trip to kyiv to meet with the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy in person. johnson reiterated the united kingdom's commitment to ukraine, and announced that his country will be supplying ukraine with 120 armored vehicles and new anti ship missile systems. in addition to the hundred $30 million in military aid that was announced yesterday. in a news release, zelenskyy