us on our network. we are so grateful you are safe and able to be on the set with us today. thank you. incredible work that you have been doing overseas. your family should be proud. >> thank you. >> thank you. that wraps it up for me, everybody. reverend al sharpton, politic station starts right now. ♪♪ good evening, and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, a mobilizing moment. this sunday, i find myself inspired by the power of human persistence in ukraine. innocent civilians have been faced with the worst of human behavior. atrocities committed by invading russian forces that outside observers are calling war

crimes. and yet, ukrainians have held fast and resisted, forcing putin to regroup and change his strategy. perhaps at some point, it will lead to an end to the violence. we can hope. in washington, judge ketanji brown jackson was rewarded for her per sis tans last week with a bipartisan vote in favor of her being the first black female supreme court justice. i was there at the white house confirmation ceremony friday in my capacity as the head of the national action network alongside my mentor and civil rights since i was 12 years ol, reverend jessy jackson. all of us have waited a long time for this moment. in the months ahead, all of us will likely have our

commitment tested many more times. the war in ukraine will go on. the partisan divisions we saw during the supreme court hearings will only get worse as the midterms draw closer. but as we begin tonight, remember that good things can happen when you rise up and fight for it. let's get started. for the latest from ukraine, we go first to nbc's ollie. lots of developments today, including reports of an eight-mile long russian military convoy. the satellite imaging company maxar has released these shots of hundreds of armored vehicles and trucks bringing artillery and equipment. this is all happening about 60 miles east of kharkiv.

what else can you tell us about this, ollie? >> good evening. that's right. that massive convoy, eight miles long as you said of russian arm meant east of kharkiv. the intelligence seems to point it moving to a city called isium. intelligence says that they are going to use that as a launching pad to take the city of -- that is a pivotal city of the battle for donbass. if the russians can capture that city, they will be able to circle the donbass area. they weren't able to capture kyiv and its suburbs, so now they want to get a strong food hold in the country, and it's the donbass region they want to take. the ukrainians are saying they

are going to fight hard, they need more weapons from the west to hold on and take that area from the russians. let's take a listen to what the ukrainian foreign minister had to say. >> ukraine proved to have one of the strongest army in the world, mainly the second strongest after the united states. but all we need is state-of-the-art weapons of all kinds provided to us. so propose to nato and the west to provide everything we need in the fight so you don't have to step up and fight. >> they have a new battlefield command being put here to take over the russian military operation. he was trained in soviet military techniques that believe in annihilating civilian targets to get battlefield momentum, so

we're expecting an allout offensive in the donbass area. it's expected to be very bloody and include civilian targets one again. >> thank you. joining me now. senator tim cane, democrat of virginia. senator, you have said the u.s. should do everything it can to bring putin up on war crime charges at the international criminal court. your remarks come as the u.s. and its allies are pressing for an investigation into allegations that russian troops killed ukrainian civilians in towns that they seized. why is it important for these charges to be brought against putin now? will war crime charges be enough to deter putin? >> thanks for having me on if last question you asked, i don't know. i don't think putin can be shamed, but i think it might be

possible to shame the russian citizens and pop ewe lists having a war crime committing president because of these war crimes. so shortly after the invasion began, it was clear to me that there was indiscriminant targeting of civilians, and i urged the ifc to begin a war crimes investigation, which they did. but the more recent atrocities revealed that the attack on a train station that was purely designed to go after people who were fleeing for refuge, classic definition of war crimes. i believe with the reporter stating that ukrainians aren't a real people and ukraine isn't a real nation, that starts to get into the genocide territory. we need to do all we can to press it. russia might veto it, but i

think we would have strong support for this. >> over the night, zelenskyy issued a warning to european leaders that if a russian invasion into ukraine is not stopped, all european democracies are under a threat. this comes by a report from the associated press that u.s. intelligence officials are predicting putin may interfere in our elections again in retaliation for the u.s. support of ukraine. how concerned are you about russian interference in russia threats? >> i'm concerned, but we have been on this for a while. the u.s. helped other nations in europe prep to defend cyber attacks. we did a very good job after falling really short in the 2016 election, and i was personally connected to that u.s. failure.

in the 2018 elections, there was russian efforts to interfere and we blocked them. we know a lot about what they do and how they do it. i am confident we will prepare strongly to defend our elections in november. watch the french elections because as you know, there was a first-level french election this weekend with a runoff in june, and you will see russia try to interfere with those elections -- >> is it one of the candidates that's running against macron sympathetic to putin? >> putin and the russians would likely look at her as a far preferable choice as opposed to the other. we need to watch what russia does in france and accept that they'll try to do the same thing in the u.s. likely opposing

democrats. frankly, they're going to work against anybody who is on joe biden's team and do anything they can to impose chaos. obviously, we've got congressional republicans, not all, but some who are still carrying putin's water form. voting against praising nato in the house. we need to be very diligent, but u.s. cyber command and other dh agencies are prepping to protect our elections. >> and if she defeats macron in france, that would be perceived as a victory for putin. is growing debate over the future of title 42, which is a trump era policy used to deter people at the border due to covid concerns?

and the law in may is what they're trying to appeal, this bipartisan push wants to put a new policy in place to prevent a potential surge of border crossings. you'll support repealing title 42, but are you worried about the timing considering the midterms are just around the corner? >> i actually -- i am worried about the timing but for a different reason. we need to get rid of title 42. it's a temporary measure that was blocking people's ability to seek normal processing for their asylum claims. the timing i'm worried about is when is the right time to drop title 42. we need to drop it when the public health emergency is over. here's the issue. the biden administration has said it should be dropped on may 23rd. the biden administration separately has also said new

asylum procedures will be put in place on may 31. so there's questions about timing like which should come first. is the covid emergency really over as we're seeking a new covid aid package? we have to dig into the timing questions and let science dictate the answer. but title 42 needs to finish, but it needs to finish when we feel like we know where the covid ark is going. we're going to have this discussion in the senate in the weeks to come. >> because title 42 was based on health, not based on immigration policy. this week, justice designate ketanji brown jackson was confirmed. 53-47 vote represented a process that was sometimes heated, but in the end, some republicans did

cross party lines and vote for her historic confirmation. after all of this, do you feel better or worse about the way the senate handles supreme court nominees? there was only three republicans went with her with one of the most impeccable credentials one could imagine. >> you've asked the question in such a good way. i've had so many people in the capitol and at my church this morning saying, what was it like to be there during that vote? and i spoke on her behalf and pointed out when i started law school in 1979, the only woman justice in the supreme court was a white marble statue on the outside of the building. now to have two women of color on the court, what an exciting bit of evidence that for everything we're frustrated about, there is progress when we

put our shoulder to the wheel. so i feel better about the senate, even though the process was tough and even though she was put under, you know, kind of ridiculous cross-examination by people trying to make a way for themselves in a way that was kind of gross. she stood strong, showed the entire american public her character, and she's going to be such a good addition to this body. >> you ran with hillary clinton in 2016 who was ironically at the network convention with us in the women's luncheon when it was announced that judge jackson was confirmed. so the women and those men in that event with hillary clinton were ecstatic. how did you feel personally about this week's confirmation?

>> as you know, i was a civil rights lawyer for 18 years before i got into politics, so i really felt excited. to think that there's never been a woman on the supreme court when i started my practicing life as a lawyer, and now four out of nine are women. the day on the floor was fantastic. the next morning i went to the health clinic at the capitol to get a booster shot, and the young woman who was giving me the booster when we were done, she said, senator, can i ask you a question, with kind of a quiet voice, and i said, sure. she said, what was it like to be in the chamber when you created from judge ketanji brown jackson, justice jackson? it was a young african american

woman who was moved to have watched it on tv, but she wanted to me to describe what it was like to be there in person. it made me realize some of us who do the work can take it for granted. what it has meant to people outside the capitol has really touched me. >> it was one of those moments that you'll never forget. thank you, is that the tore tim cane for joining me. just ahead, we celebrate judge ketanji brown jackson's confirmation to the supreme court and the republicans who rose up to make it happen. plus, my panel joins me to discuss the high-stakes international politics surrounding russia's invasion of ukraine. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top stories. some of the stories we're watching for the you, the

presidential election in france kicked off this weekend. early polling shows they predict emmanuel macron and la pen will have a runoff vote. china is facing one of its worst covid-19 outbreaks since the pandemic started. local health authorities say they must be allowed to return home despite strict lockdown regular laces. political uncertainty in pakistan. members will meet monday to vote for a new prime minister. critics say that he violated the nation's constitution by trying to stop that vote from going ahead. more politics nation after the break. wafter the break.

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the historic confirmation of justice designate, ketanji brown jackson to the supreme court. this magnificently qualified black woman will join the ranks of the highest court in the land, becoming a first. in a moving speech friday, jackson thanked her family, mentors, and colleagues for helping her get to this point. also noting that it took 232 year for a black woman to reach the supreme court. she added that her family in one generation has gone from segregation to the supreme court. jackson won the support of every dem rat and three republican senators. i don't usually get a chance to acknowledge republicans for their crossing party lines, so i remain cautiously optimistic about further bipartisan efforts.

but i do want to give credit where credit is due. these three gop senators exuded courage. they saw jackson at her best as mitt romney said in his announcement, jackson is a qualified jurist and meets the standard of integrity. let's remember it was president biden who had the audacity to say during a presidential debate in charleston, south carolina, that he would nominate a black woman if president. and majority congressman jim clyburn was in the audience that night and urged biden to do it when biden kept his promise after the urging of congressman clyburn, let's not forget. president biden's election was crucial to taking this step that was long overdue. the people of georgia also

deserve some credit for electing two democratic senators in a runoff election, giving democrats a slim majority in the senate. this is why elections matter. we must rise up to continue to make our voices heard through casting ballots. republican-led legislatures in at least 19 states are passing voter restriction laws according to the brennan center, making it harder to vote. we cannot allow push back to discourage us. voting has consequences, and we must take this passion into the midterms. we share a stake in making this country more equitable and better in all of our daily lives. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. ( ♪♪ )

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political panel. i'm joined by rick tyler, republican strategist, and msnbc analyst. democratic strategist and former chair of the maryland democratic party. with ukraine's foreign minister addressed what his country needs to win the war this morning on meet the press. let's take a listen. >> if we were a member of nato, this war wouldn't take place. we propose this deal, you provide us with everything we need, and we fight so that you don't have to step up into the fight when putin decides to test article 5 of the north atlantic treaty and attack one of nato countries. >> this is on the heels of president zelenskyy's warning that putin won't stop with ukraine. all european democracies face a

threat from russian aggression if the war isn't ended. the u.s. has committed more weapons to ukraine and has also ended normal trade with russia. what more should the u.s. do to assist ukraine? >> well, i think we should do everything the ukrainians are asking us to do, including ukraines are trained on mick fighters with, and they don't have enough aircraft now. the russians have not been able to dominate the skies. i'm very happy with the weapons that have gone into ukraine from the united states including antiaircraft missiles. but now that the russians have actually lost the war to take kyiv, i think there's some opportunity for nato to establish safe zones in the west. it is a defensive position to keep the atrocities we know now

that have happened in the west and part of that country as the russians retreated to the east part of that country. >> british prime minister boris johnson made a surprise visit to kyiv on wednesday. he was forth right about the kinds of weapons he's willing to deliver. in the neighboring country of france, the invasion of ukraine is looming over the presidential election. emmanuel macron is facing stiff competition from marine la pen in a runoff election. back here in the states, do you think the russian war will affect the midterms? >> oh, absolutely. as you well know, the republicans, many of whom still follow the trumpist line, have -- some of them have aligned themselves actually with putin, and certainly, i think that america is looking for strength from our leader, president biden, after

afghanistan. and he's shown that consistently that he is able to lead and keep nato together while also showing strong support for zelenskyy. so i do think that if biden continues to show a steady hand, if he continues to show leadership, if he continues to show his leverage with allies such as boris johnson who did make an incredibly important trip to ukraine this week, then i think we will see the american people rally around biden in a time of war to actually basically applaud him for his strength during this time. >> rick, switching gears now to donald trump's rally last night in north carolina, he highlighted a number of candidates he's backing in the primary election including congressman madison hau thorn who's facing mounting blow back from members of his own party from multiple controversial

statements. he threw his support behind dr. oz. how influential is trump's endorsement today in your opinion? >> well, trump is a dim light that's fading away, and i don't think it's very important. but keep in perspective that endorsements from people who think they're important aren't really important. donald trump's record has been very mixed, so i don't think it makes one difference whether he endorses people or not. even if he endorses the loser, he'll come out and say, we were for the winner all along. bottom line, it doesn't matter. >> okay. days ago, the country witnessed the historic confirmation of judge jackson. quote, with inflation, war, and pandemic, democrats hope that

the browbeating will rally black voters behind their candidates may be dispointed, end quote. what should be next on the agenda for democrats? how can they rally the support of some black voters who may not have the same enthusiasm now that they did in 2020. >> absolutely. i think it's important to point out democrats passed the infrastructure. they did get ketanji brown jackson through the supreme court. but they are going to actually have to show that they have been responsive to other needs of the african american community who has been dispointed by the lack of passage of the police reform bill and also voting rights. so we know this week that the congressional black caucus has been busy preparing new

legislation. one argued that they are looking at correcting the disparities between basically cocaine and crack and some other things they're preparing to basically be responsive to their face. it will be interesting to see what they pull out of their hat, but it is important that the economy is also doing pretty well with jobs actually on the uptick, i think everyone's concerned about the possibility of inflation and perhaps a recession. but still, the economy and jobs is looking pretty good right now considering everything we have been through as a nation. >> same question to you, rick. what do republicans need to do to appeal to black voters? this same new york times piece said they were beginning to try and pick up some black voters. what do they need to do given their record and given how some have come off as openly hostile

to the interest of black voters? >> i think it's an economic appeal, and it is true that the economy is booming. the economy is doing very well, but what's hurting people now even though they have jobs and wages have gone up, is inflation. and the administration poured a lot of money into the economy and created an inflation that is hitting food prices and gas prices inparticular, and the administration needs to address that because it's just gouging people's pay checks. they may be ahead on paper, but they don't feel like they're ahead when they're actually behind because things are costing so much more than they did before. >> let's turn to the looming case of uptick in cases as the covid variant ba.2 proves to be more contagious than omicron. dr. fauci said the virus won't

be eradicated, and it's up to individuals to make their own medical risk assessments for them and their families. where are we in the covid fight? if people moved on willing to assume the risks? >> i think that's right. i think people have assumed that they are vaccinated and double vaccinated, and the latest variant, as i understand it, is more contagious but less lethal, so they are willing to take the risk of getting -- of getting covid. hopefully though, we can get ahold of this latest variant and defeat it as well and we can be over this whole covid. i'm sure everybody is looking forward to that. >> i'm out of time. but do you think it's time for president biden to move on from

covid? >> certainly, i think he has to pay attention to covid, but certainly, i think we're moving towards treating covid as an endemic. one we're going to have to treat like the flu. certainly, that's something he's trying to shift the nation toward. >> all right. let me thank both of you for being with us tonight. rick tyler and mya cummings. thank you both. coming up, from nominee to supreme court justice, designate judge ketanji brown jackson will make history when she's seated on the bench, but how much of an impact can she make when she actually puts on the robes? we'll discuss that next. it kills 99% of plaque bacteria and forms an antibacterial shield.

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on thursday, the makeup of the stream court was for ever changed. not only was the first black woman confirmed to the highest court of the nation, but also when she takes the bench, white men will no longer make up the majority of the justices. joining me now to discuss further is the senior editor of law and policy at rewire news group. thank you for joining me today.

the washington post writes this about judge jackson's historic confirmation, jackson's presence will go a long way toward president biden's stated goal of a court that looks more like america. but it won't impact for now one that is stacked for conservatives as intense as any before and facing a host of issues that will stoke rather than dissipate partisan dissatisfaction, end of quote. how do you expect justice jackson to fit into the overall makeup of the court when it's still a 6-3 conservative court? >> i think it's fairly clear that she is going to be on the liberal wing of the court with other justices, and i do understand that people are hesitant to really get as excited as they should be about

justice jackson now because of the fact that we do have these six conservative justices who seem to vote in lock step. but what people have to remember is that this is a long game. conservatives have spent decades stacking the courts with conservative idea logs. so what liberals and democrats are trying to do, and what biden has been successful in doing is to try to make the courts look more like what the makeup of the country looks like and to nominate and appoint judges and justices who will be able to connect the law, these sort of high-brow constitutional principles to people. and i expect that jackson will be amazing at that. >> now, one of the issues judge jackson will face when she becomes associate justice jackson is abortions. this weekend, murder charges were dropped against a

26-year-old texas woman who was arrested for what authorities called, quote, the death of an individual by self-induced abortion. though it was unclear whether she was accused of having an abortion or whether she helped someone else get a termination. now, in a statement released a short time ago, the star county district attorney said, and i'm quoting, in reviewing app libable texas law, it is clear that she cannot and should not be prosecuted for the allegation against her. the issues surrounding this matter are clearly con ten. however, based on texas law and the facts presented, it is not a criminal matter, end of quote. despite is d.a.'s decision, the arrest itself raises concerns about the growing focus on red

states targeting not only abortion providers but those seeking abortions. your thoughts? >> well, we don't really know what judge or justice jackson will do on abortion, but i suspect that she will fall in the side of row versus wade should not be overturned. vob vously, she won't be on the bench when that decision comes down in a couple of weeks. the issue with respect to what's going on in texas is it is a continuation of the criminalization of people for having bad pregnancy outcomes. this is something that has been going on for quite some time. the difference is that anti-choicers and activists know that they have won.

they know that row is going down. they know they've captured the court. they know that even though the american people don't want row to be reversed, they've got six justices who are going to do it. so now they're next step is going to be to try to treat fertilized eggs as people having the same rights that alive, breathing people do. i've been saying for quite some time. there's going to be a point at which fetuses and fertilized eggs have more right than black women do. that's something i expect justice jackson to be able to connect to. >> while i have you, i want to get your take on the stories about justice clarence thomas' wife according to text messages obtained by the washington post and cbs news.

jenny thomas has long-maintained she's an independent spouse and her political advocacy has nothing to do with her husband. but some of the country's most respected legal scholars are saying judge thomas should recuse himself from any cases related to the 2020 election and its aftermath. >> it's inexcusable that he has not recused himself particularly from the case he already heard. it's inexcusable that he will not recuse himself from the case coming up. he wants to claim attorney/client privilege in order to keep documents about activities away from the 1/6 committee. what we're talking about here is a woman who is married to a justice that is on the highest court of the land. there is no mechanism in place to force him to recuse himself.

so i don't think he really has the good sense to recuse himself because i don't think he really cares. but it is a very serious issue when we have the wife of a supreme court justice who has access to a group chat of all of clarence thomas' law clerks. this is very concerning, and he absolutely should be recusing himself whether or not she's independent from clarence thomas, it's impossible for the american puck lib to believe he can be impartial in any case in which his wife has interest. >> let's look ahead for a moment. there are still two and a half years to go in president biden's term, so it's certainly possible he could see another vacancy open in the supreme court. now that biden has fulfilled his promise to a black woman in terms of putting one on the

court, the highest bench in the land, are there other ways he could potentially broaden the court? >> biden has been doing a really great job of diversifying the courts. he's appointed something like 33 or 35 black women to circuit courts around the country. the problem is and the problem remains, until we have broad court reform, that conservatives spent decades packing these courts. one of four appellate judges is a trump. appointed judge. so these are people who are going to have the last say when it comes to any sort of progressive policy that biden might want to get through. until he's willing to think about broad court reform, a will the of his efforts are wonderful and admirable, but ultimately, it's not enough. i wish he would do more, but he's indicated he's not willing to go there, and i think that's very unfortunate.

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as we continue to cover the war in ukraine and confirmation of important stories so they don't get lost in the fog of war. prosecutors in minnesota announced this week they will not file criminal charges against the minneapolis officer who shot and killed 22-year-old amir locke earlier this year during a no-knock raid. minnesota a.g. keith ellison and hennepin county attorney michael friedman said in a statement there was, quote, insufficient admissible evidence to file charges. karen wells, the mother of amir locke, spoke at a press conference at the national action network convention on

wednesday, the day they announced it, and expressed her frustrations with the decision. the supreme court reinstated a trump-era rule limiting the ability for states and native american tribes to block pipelines and energy projects on their land. the biden administration is working on a rewrite of the rule. however, the final version won't be ready until the spring of next year. and two nfl coaches have joined brian flores in the class action lawsuit accusing the league of racial discrimination over its hiring practices. this comes as it was announced last week that the league is required to hire an offensive coach who is a person of ethnic or racial minority or a female in the next season. these are things that came out of national action network's convention, some of these

stories. we are focused on protecting rights to vote, fighting on the ground in these states some of the laws that are restrictive and getting people out to vote. secondly, we are absolutely going to deal with criminal justice reform, including no-knock warrants and, of course, the george floyd policing bill, and economic equity per the nfl, is nba, and other major corporations. not only their hiring of coaches and ownership, but who they do business with. we cannot just study the victories of the past. we must also make history and change what is happening on the ground right now. we'll be right back. ider if an oral treatment is right for you. oral treatments can be taken at home and must be taken within 5 days from when symptoms first appear.

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