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have been related to this person. we know 21 people are treated. ten of those people were shot, after officials say somebody in a gas mask on the subware this morning detonated what police called a smoke cannister and opened fire. source are saying police recovered the gun along with a bag of smoke cannisters and fireworks. the suspect described as a black man 5' 5" tall. some of the scene is disturbing. this is what happened. smoke in the air, you can see at one point people running, some after being shot, blood everywhere. mayor eric adams saying earlier today that new yorkers will not be in his words terrorized but said it is premature to speculate on what happened. every single resource is being

put on this. >> this person is an active shooter situation right now in the city of new york. >> katy tur is on the scene in brooklyn. you probably have been watching her. you are the expert on this. i understand we are getting in new photos, pictures of this back and its contents. yes? >> reporter: that is news to me. i am going to look at it as you do, but this is what we were told that the man in question, the suspect did leave behind quite a bit of material on the train. so this appears to be some of that material. i will say that some of the people that were injured in this reported shrapnel wound. when i was at that news taumps conference you played a moment ago, i ask what happened they could be atributed to. and the deputy commissioner of the dfny said they were still looking into that, but potentially raised wounds from bullets. they were looking into whether

or not there was any sort of explosive device on that train that might have contributed to some of those wounds. we were also told that there were ten people who were shot, suffered bullet wounds during this shooting. five of them were in stable or critical but stable condition but none of them experienced life-threatening injuries. halle, it was quite a scene here this morning. i have been covering news for going on 16 years. i covered a number of these major criminal events or major snaurl disasters or major accidents, steam pipe explosions and the like. this was one of the bigger scenes i have scene e seen in new york city. interestingly, normally, we're seeing these events in midtown manhattan or the islands, this happened in the heart of brooklyn, 25 minutes by train into manhattan at 8:25 this morning during rush hour and

i'll note that if this was at 8:25 during rush hour two years ago, be every the pandemic, it would have been absolutely neck-to-neck hacked inside that subway. but since so many people are working from home since so many people aren't going into offices any longer, rush hour is not quite as crowded. that being said, i took the train every day and there has been an increased number of riders in the past couple of months as the mask mandates have been lifted as the threat of the coronavirus has started to ease in this city. still, there are people who are on edge from the crime that was already on the rise. there were people on edge about the subway system, in particularp about the issues with those with mental illnesses. about the homelessness issues. about the man that pushed a woman onto the subway tracks a few months ago. so there were concerns about that they're only going to be

elevated after what happened this morning. but i want to bring in a few other reporters and experts with us. we have nbc justice correspondent pete williams and special act and msnbc security analyst pete watts and retired nypd detective and director of the black enforcement alliance and also a retired nypd detective so pete, you are the expert on this investigation. tell us what you know about what the authorities were able to find that the suspect left behind and that image we just saw. >> all right let's go back to the ticket now. let me try to explain what it is. this is a, according to law enforcement, a look inside the bag this the gunman left on the train after the shooting. now, you can see that the bag has orange handles. it has some kind of writing on the outside. it's black with white writing. these are important things that will help authorities try to

track down where the person got onto the train. inside are some fireworks. the small orange once on the left are fireworks. the one on the viet a package called falcon rising. this is a commercial firing that shoots off multi-colored fireworks and then it looks like news materials and other things inside the bag so that's an enormous help to authorities doing this investigation. secondly, it appears the gunman left behind the handgun that he used in the shooting. it's a glock 9mm handgun according to lawen force. when they recovered it, it appears to have jammed. that may be why the shooting stopped. that's unclear. that's one possibly. also, there were other smoke cannisters left behind, halle mentioned authorities are looking for a u-haul van with arizona plates. the plate number is al-31408.

what this suggests is the authorities now either ver an eyewitness who believes they saw the gunman getting into that or out of that van or they have been able to trace back as they try to trace the movement of this person back before they got onto the end train and before that shooting happened and have some ott some points some video showing the suspect getting into that van. that's hugely important because if the suspect is tied to that van, that van came from some place and if they can go back to u haul and figure out who represented that van with that license plate, that's an enormous piece of investigative information as well. of this is a very, very fast-moving investigation just this short time after the shooting happened with a fair amount of optimism that they're going to be able to figure out who did this. >> so, clint, let's talk about what they have. we were just, he was just talking about what was in that

bag. the 9mm was left behind. there is this uhaul with plates. presumably, they have finger pripts. how close are we to getting a photo and a named i.d.? how close do you expect we are from getting that information? >> katie, it seems they made a lot of ground. this is a substantial amount of evidence left behind. it's also quite curious because it seems like there was some sort of a plan put in place by the shooter. but i do wonder if there was any plan after the shooting essentially to deal with this. pete also noted that the weapon was jammed or could have been jammed. that would mean someone not maybe quite proficient with that weapon that they couldn't deal with it. then to leave all these materials behind, that can be a very rushed effort as if the plan maybe did not go the way they thought. i would expect in the next you know, i want to say in the next few hours, the nypd and law

enforcement more broadly will be on the lookout for a specific person. they will be able to nail it down fairly quickly and also had time to go and talk to eyewitnesses that saw the shooter come on the train and other eyewitnesses that saw the shooter leave the train. i do expect the investigation and what we are hearing to pick up quite quickly, i would note if this perpetrator was willing to bring a gun on to a train, use smoke cannisters and essentially perpetrate this plot, they would maybe be in a position to to that again next. so law enforce. has to move quite cautiously. pa us this isn't over yet. >> so, mark, it's been going on seven hours since this happens, what's the likelihood this person is in the vis tin i cindy of new york city or hasn't crossed one of the borders into another state? >> unknown, really, to be honest

with you. because the perpetrator could be anywhere at this point. but i think it's very positive that there appears to be a treasure trove of evidence that has been recovered by the investigators. and then also, what's going to be very important moving forward, but i think i'm sure they have accessed at this point is the nypd's domain awareness system. which is a network of sensors and cameras and databases and other devices that provides a lot of information, analytical information for investigators, especially when you talk about manhunt situations. so that's going to include not only the cameras in the immediate vicinity on the train station, but this network of cameras at some of the owned by nypd, a private deal that nypd had access to, provides feeds, it's provided feed information from those cameras. talk about license plate

readers. it's significant here. because you mentioned that there is an actual license plate in the search, involved in the search now and other detectives. so, if the databases of course, the registration, vehicle registration databases, driver's license, database is going to be significant here so that domain in the system is an important and valuable tool at this point in the investigation. >> kirk, what do you make of the time of the place, the fact that it happened in rush hour, not in time's square, outside of manhattan, sunset park, 25 minutes by train into manhattan. >> needless to say, it's all speculation. it seems it's rush hour. that's where the train would be most crowded. it seems rather clear that the perpetrator intended to fire the weapon while the train doors were closed right before entering the station. that's when the train would be

most populated. i will tell you it is a miracle that there was not a huge loss of life. i can't think to have a more dangerous thing to do than to discharge a firearm multiple times on a crowded platform. so that's really interesting. you know, here it seems that there was a plan but the plan starts to unravel once the perpetrator left the train. so the plan was clearly to unleash this act of violence into a crowded subway at this particular time where folks would probably be on the train. however, leaving behind all the evidence, it seems that the perpetrator didn't have a really great plan for egress once he reached the street. i agree with my colleagues here that i think that this person will be ap pre helped. it's very difficult to hide in plain sight in new york city in this day andably, especially before the cameras and social media and everything else and everyone being aware and on the

lookout for this person, especially now that we have this uhaul van. so really the timing of it to answer your question is very interesting. i think it was deliberate. >> reporter: just one more question to you, kirk, that's feeling comfortable in the subway system. with this man on the loose, would you feel comfortable going on the train and going home today? >> well, i'm a native new yorker. i have been riding the train all my life. you know, this is one person. this was a random attack. you know, it's kind of the odds of getting struck by lightning twice. he left behind the tools of the crime. like i said, it seems the planning was a little bit poor even though he did plan. so, it doesn't seem that he would commit another attack. you know, the subway system is the subway system. this is new york city. while there has been an uptick in crime.

we certainly haven't returned to the '70s and mid-'80s when crime was out of control tom answer your question, yes, as a new yorker, i have to deep my eyes behind me, i exercise common sense. yes, i would feel comfortable getting back on the train. >> all right. gentleman, thank you very much. let's bring in new york city public advocate in this year's new york governor's race. jumani, i spoke to you earlier, you told me one of your staffs was on the train after this happened. i want to start there, if you don't piepd. tell me what your staffer saw and how they're doing. >> well,er that doing great. i am very grateful for that. obviously, shook up. they're train pulled in as it was happening. so there was a lot of trauma associated with it. making sure that any of that stuff is received. i think it leads to

the.president of when these shootings occur, the impa secretary much broader than the initial shots. i am very glad we haven't lost life. but this new home is trauma for people worn shot and people who were just there. >> no doubt about that. let's talk about just in the broader sense, safety in this city. we have an issue with gun violence. a lot of the city has an issue. the president, himself, tried to address it yesterday at the white house in trying to find a way to get a hand on government guns. how does new york city tackle its gun issues? >> i have been a leading voice on this issue for over a decade. we've always consistently talked about the supply and demand. one of the supplies of guns coming into our streets. congress has to act. it's not illegal guns every illegal gun was illegal at some point. there is something wrong with

our system allowing all these guns to come through. we need interagency to stop the iron pipeline of guns coming into the city. then there was a demand of violence. we were doing such a great job. i was proud of how we got to see 2018 and 2019, when we had the a. of violence was dramatically reduced in the way the normal folk got there. the many of us sounded the alarm as pandemic started raging. we said, this is going to pick up. we need people to aattention to it. contextually speaking, the violence across the nation. some of it worse in new york city. those ten people were shot. those people who deal with trauma already seen that. but we need to have a comprehensive approach that, yes, includes our law enforcement partners. as we can see, simply just adding more of that may not get us where we need to go.

>> reporter: finally, you were here on scene. i saw you here, you were behind some of the crime tape that i was not able to get past. what did you see? and what did you hear after this happened? >> new yorkers are concerned. people are concerned. rightfully so. but as a previous person said, most new yorkers have going to get back to the train and they're going to look both ways like they normally do and try to get home. that's why they deserve us to have a confident approach. this budget just passed. many of us asked for at least a billion dollars for gun violence prevention and victim services. that's something we will look at to get the services wee need to these communities to deal with the gun violence on the rise. this is a mass shooting. it's a terrible shooting. it's too common. there are ways to address this. if our leaders can just stop the

back and forth and focus on what really works and not what's just going to sound good for election year. >> new york city public advocate jumani williams, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. halle, i will throw it back to you. >> katie, thank you, we will have more msnbc coverage. after the break, we will be joined by new york mayor eric adams. plus, we expect to hear from president biden for the first time this attack in new york happened. we will take you live later to iowa later in the show. e show >> and sandpaper. strypaper? why do we all put up with this? when there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients like an electrolyte, antioxidant, even your tears' own moisturizer. and no preservatives. these ingredients are true to your eyes' biology.

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if you want to stay out of jail, you need to go good. this is a chance to find a better life for you and your friends. help grandma cross the street. yeah. he's gonna blow it. you think i can't do this? ow! . we are back with our breaking coverage of the attack at that new york subway station. joining us now new york city mayor adams. mayor adams, it's good to see you this afternoon. thank you for being with us. i know it's been busy. >> thank you. >> let me start with trying to get an 81 date and we'll broaden

out in a second. we have seen this photo of a bag apparently recovered from law enforcement, another piece of evidence. is law enforcement getting closer based on what you knee to tracking down the suspect? >> well, you know, close for me is ap pre helpings. i am not going to be happy until this person is in handcuffs and behind bars. this what a hor risk unprovoked attack on new yorkers. we are going to coordinate with our city, state and federal agency and bring this person to justice. this will not go unprosecuted. >> we mentioned at the top of the show, there is this be on the lookout alert for sources for a u-hall with arizona plates, can you tell me anything else between the van and the suspect? >> right now the police department, the commission i and i will give a complete update in a few hours, based on the solid evidence that we v. but we want to be careful not to release any

information that is going to get into number one the apprehension and the proos skugs. it is imperative we coordinate and give the public information we need that can assist us in finding this person. we believe we are going to find this person and bring them to justice. >> you talk about getting the public to help you find that suspect. an image, a pick, would be useful, yes. do you anticipate being able to release one any time soon? >> yeah, but we don't want to do is to put out the wrong picture, the wrong image. this must be done in a coordinated intelligent way for whatever leads we receive, once we properly identify the person we are looking for or a person of interest, that's when you want to release that photo. we zero in on that, at that time we release whatever visual image we have to assist the public in fining this person. >> got it. when you say zeroing in on this manhunt. do you anticipate it as a matter of hours or day this is person is caught. i assume days not weeks,

mr. mayor. >> listen, we don't want this person on our streets. it's clear that our efforts are going to apprehend this person as expeditiously as possible. we can't put a time table on that. people try to allude. >> what do we know about the camera, why it wasn't work something. >> that's a question we zeroed in on. we are unclear if it was the feed or the actual device, itself. we are communicating with the mta. they have been extremely collaborative in trying to find out what happened we dealt with tax of this nature. we looked exactly what took place here. we asked them to do an overview of all the system to identify are there other cameras that are out. >> obviously, an incredibly

scary morning. not just nor the victims treated and are in the hospital. do you an update on how many victims there are, how many people are being treated and their conditions? >> we believe ten individuals were shot. six others were injured during the entire encounter. we want to take our hat off to new yorkers. the amateur video posted online, clearly, you saw new yorkers at their best coming to the aid and assistance of those who were injured and then our first responders from the fdny, nypd and hot personnel immediately attended to the wounds that were injured. none of the injuries appeared to be life lenting at this time. we will keep a close watch. >> any update? there are schools in the proximity, that are on a lockdown status as you know. when do you anticipate that lifting? >> well, we have to commend the

department of education. the school chancellor and the entire team. they immediately kicked into action. we are in the area. we want to make sure they're locked down, if we haven't started already. the other schools outside of those five were released. we wanted to take the necessary steps to ensure that the issue was under control before we allow our children to exit our schools. >> as to given all that given the images, i don't know that you can see it from where you are. but we are showing on screen what that scene had looked like, what it looked like moments ago. you have to imagine there are a lot of new yorkers that are uneasy about the situation papd what is happening at this moment f. are you not in covid isolation, would you ride the subway right now? >> yes, new yorkers know me. that's one thing i want to tell

you, i want to be on the front line with the people of this city, not only as a police officer writ happened to have been a transit police officer, but this is what i do. i ride the subways. i'm in the subway system 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning, if i'm telling forkers, i need to lead from the front. that is what i am known do do here in the city. what we will do to ease some of the apprehension, we will double our enforcement. the pelosis will compliment for the 12 tour. but we ask new yorkers if they see something, say something and do something. notify their local police official. let's be clear. sense january 6th, we have conducted over 265,000 inspects of our subway system. because we know it's vital for your recovery. we don't want something like this to hatcher the recovery of

our at the. >> you should be comfortable, getting on, as you head home from work tonight? >> while you are doing so, you will see invisible police presence. we need our new yorkers to be vigilant like we are, if they see something that appears to be out of the ordinary, don't hesitate to communicate that to the uniform officer that's there or the motorman or any other member of the transit authority. >> mr. mayor, i have been watching the coverage. you clearly call this in your view terror. you also said it is too early to know what this is. help us understand that. do you believe this ultimately will be found to be an act of terror in new york? >> well, any time you have a person that used a smoke device, you have a person that discharges a weapon in the system, that appear to be appears to have placed a gas mask on his face, that is a

person that is intentionally trying to terrorize our system. once we apprehended him or her, do a thorough investigation and determine the motivation behind this act, we can make an official derryl eight on what it is. but we're not going to leave any stone unturned the and serving on the table until we can zero if on what was the motivation behind this. but one thing is clear. they wanted to bring terror to our city and they wanted to terrorize the men and women who were on the system innocent new yorkers who are the victim of this terrible action that took place this morning. >> given what happened this morning, what is your message to people in your city looking at this shooting, this attack, putting it into the broader context of crime rates in new york? >> they're saying that the mayor has had it right from the beginning of take office and

while he campaigned. the mayor has had a right in stating that this awful of gun violence that has become pervasive in our country from school shootings to the high number of shootings in local neighborhoods the man has had a right by stating that many need to see violence, we have to damage one, the president took a step to dam one of the rivers by nominating a person to head the atf to go after ghost guns. the mayor has had a right. since january. my police officers have removed 1,800 guns off our street. think about that a moment. 1,800 guns yet there is a constant flow. over and over the man is sending out the message it's riehm time to shop this senseless over manipulation of guns in our city and our country. we can do it together. so i think new yorkers understand they have to put police officers in actions to

deal with this issue of crime. we do need help to stop the revolving door to free up our courts. so we can get dangerous people off our streets and stop the flow of guns in our cities. >> i am struck by something you said. we talked about the victims, the people hurt in this attack and that all of their injuries so far are not expected to be life threatening. they are all expected to survive. i wonder if you see some of the images, coming out of the after math, if you have any thought this would have been course and what a miracle it is more people haven't been hurt here? >> yes. it is. it would have been worse. tank god and thank new yorkers, for their injuries did not turn into life threatening injuries. this is what we do.

this is the history of this just. if it's a plane landing on the river. new yorkers step up. they respond remember i thank god for new yorkers. those first responders. the men and women, this is who we are as a city, we're resilient. we are not going to allow anything to get in the way of our way of life. we will fine the person responsible for this action. he will be responsible for justice. >> you mentioned there will be another update at a press conference later tonight you think? >> yes, any new information we have that could assist us in apprehending this person. we will bring it forth this afternoon, later this afternoon. >> mayor adams, i appreciate the time. i appreciate your time. thank you. some news of course from the mayor there, adding to what with have learned in the last hour or so not just the victims, about

the suspect in this shooting. we're going to take you live outside the hospital, where some of the people hurt in this attack are being treated after the break. stay with us. stay with us.

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. >> we are back with more on that developing story. ten people shot in the new york subway. a manhunt in fiveboros and beyond to try to find that shooter. katie, over to you. >> reporter: hey there, halle. we are expecting to get more information from police this afternoon at one police plaza, which is the head quarter for the nypd. let's go to news correspondent in brooklyn. jesse, i want to get an update from you on the victims. we are told five were shot in critical and stable condition. what you can tell us? >> reporter: yeah, katie, i think what we heard from the mayor a short time ago, underscores this situation. mayor adams says there were 16 people injured. here at this hospital in brooklyn we are toldly hospital officials that they have treated

21time people at this hospital alone in relation to this attack. ten of those have already been discharged. the 21 people were brought here at a range of injuries, including smoke inhalation and gown shot wound. we are told all are in stable condition. ten of them have already been released from the hospital. there is what we typically see in these times of mass casualty events, the initial rush of people brought to hospitals. you get that trick him. the hospital official a short time ago telling me at least one person he believes self transported, brought themselves here. you can imagine people tried to get to safety, leave the scene if they were able on their own. then when they realized they had medical treatment presumably would have come to hospitals. 21 people injured, brought here, including some shot. all of them we are told are in stable condition. several have already been released. cup see behind us here. it is very calm, in fact, there

is a noticeable presence here. severe police officers we saw camped outside this hospital a short time ago left. there appears to be movement of police resources, a high profile scene here, it is calm out here outside of the hospital, katie. >> jesse, thank you very much. let's bring in a retired atf special agent in charge and msnbc terrorism analyst. i do want to start on the issue of terrorism. earlier today, it seemed like the police commissioner was ruling out terrorism. i got a bit of a clarification from john miller who is the deputy commissioner for intelligence and counter terrorism here in new york city and he said, they don't know the suspect. they don't know the motive. and they're not ruling anything out. he also told me the reason why they're not going to call it trift terrorism, they're doing a

concurrent investigation with the joint task force here in new york. once they find the crosses aileens, it will hand over to the fbi and it will be a larger investigation. at that point. they done want to redouble their efforts and take this back. talk to me about the special cirques the nypd finds itself in and why this city is you know be it the way it is with our law enforcement? >> good afternoon. and thank you for having me on. so, in an incident like this, truly we know new york city is no stranger to terrorism attacks, right? we unfortunately have our share. because of that, the nypd, it partners with resources, has a joint terrorism task force, which now it works for the federal authorities on a 24/7 basis. and earlier, they were talking

about the fact that right now they don't believe this is directly tied to terrorism. that's because we are constantly monitoring the nypd as well as the federal authorities are constantly monitoring chatter. right? any sorts of things they hear along social media lines or other lines of communication, which would indicate some sort of domestic or international influence regarding terrorism. and as of right now, there is nothing to point to, which would indicate the use of violence in that manner, however, having said that, they are going to throw out a wide net. so if something presents itself, which speaks to a possible terrorist relation, then, obviously, as you mentioned, then they will shift gears and go towards that end. in the interim, this has to be an investigation like any other shooting and check as much physical evidence as well as any

other circumstantial evidence to track down the person responsible as quickly as possible. >> i guess one of the questions also, you know, how do you define it? where's the line? when you consider what this suspect did, the fact that he, know, put on a gas mask. he opened up a cannister of gas, filled the train with showing. shot ten people and fled, it does seem pre-planned, that he had a gas mask in the first place. he put it on first then did all these things. so jim, when you consider what he came prepared to do, talk to me about that definition. because halle was just talking to the mayor. the mayor said this was terror. it's the line between tear, encite it's the line between tear, inciting terror and terrorism under our statutes. >> it gets to the definition of federal terrorism. all violent crime terrorizes.

one of the main thing we have to look at here, if you are the operational commanders or commanders deal with this. you can't pigeon hole your mind. everybody thinks the subway car is the actual and final target. i'm not sure of that. i'm not sure it's the final target. maybe it is. maybe it's not. this may be a busted event. in other words, this guy may have been going somewhere else. he may have been going to manhattan to arrive in the early morning 9:00, which have a plethora of targets. and as we look at the sequence of events of what happened as pete williams described for us, there was 37 things that happened at the very beginning. there was an expletive from the actor. there was a smoke mask donned and there was a smoke bomb deployed. those three things all happened in a split second. we don't know exactly which one was first, kurds first, put on the mask or smoke bomb and

curse. but those three things happened altogether. and then the shooting occurred. and, of course, we see this very inaccurate shooting into this cloud of smoke. it doesn't seem like a very good plan to shoot people into a cloud of smoke if you are really trying to commit mass murder. so did this plan somehow bust? did he get a call on his iphone in his ear that said the cops are on to us, it's all busted out, breakoff and he curses and just deploys his stuff? or does he accidentally light a smoke bomb fuses, which takes a few seconds to burn, by the way. it doesn't instantly detonate. he sees that, he is sitting on a bagful of explosive really that can blow him up. he curses, gets his gun. the shooting is as much oa means to escape as it is to get away from the scenario.

then he leaves a forensics new year's eve party in the bag, hair, finger prints, dna and a dplok pistol that atf probably has already traced. sometimes even in a beg event the gun traces right back to the killer like in the son of sam case. we traced the go unto the son of sam so there is no case that may not be traced. it could be a stolen guns, a traffic guns, an obliterated serial number gun. it could be a replica of a glock, a ghost gun. if it has a serial number, atf placed an urgent trace. they have acts across the company looking at that before the dawn hits, i believe we may know who the guy is. the police may already have him, trust me. >> you tuque ability a ghost gun. we don't know if it is. president biden was trying to mandate these ghost guns have serial numbers attached to them

so they can be traced. jim, thank you very much, gentleman. thank you. halle, i will toss it back to you. one of the big opened questions we have, other than is man's identity, his motive and a photo of him, is which direction did he go in? did he go up the stairs, out of the subway onto the street to run away or stay within the subway system? did he stay within the subway tunnels? maybe we will get an answer to that around 5:00 when the police hold another news conference. >> you heard mayor adams allude to officials bring out other information to help them track down this guy, wherever he may be at this point. as we've gone more and more leads this u-haul. katie, thank you. you heard katie mention president biden. we expect from him in any many minute in iowa. we will have a live update on the war in ukraine. what u.s. officials are saying this afternoon about reports of a possible russian chemical weapons attack.

we got a lot to get to in the next couple minutes.

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you can tell he is in iowa, on the ground ready to talk gas prices. especially timely considering this morning's inflation report. he's in des moines to roll out this new push to get the price you pay for gas lower for the summer. it's those high energy prices that were the biggest contributor to the spike in inflation we've seen. up 8.5%. a number we haven't seen since 1981. so what does it mean? here's what it means. double digit price hikes for stuff you need and want. gas is up nearly 50% in a year. used cars, 35%.

if you're traveling these days, you'll probably notice hotels are up 25%. prices are up nearly 16% for furniture and bedding. big appliances up 12% and at the store, you're paying more for meat, chicken, fish, eggs. up something like 14%. cereal up about 9%. josh letterman is covering the white house. we're also joined by ron. josh, first, it's this inflation snapshot, right, which is as we've said, at this 40-year high. there's an economic picture that's strong in other ways. unemployment is down. wages are up. this is the needle the white house is trying to thread as they are also trying to point the finger at putin for the reason why people are feeling pain in their budgets this month. >> that's right. often, we'll see the president go out to some other part of the country because there's some positive part of their agenda or

accomplishment that the white house is excited to call attention to. this visit today is the opposite. it's about the president trying to get out ahead of what the white house knew was going to be brutal economic news with the inflation report, as well as those sky high energy prices that so many americans are feeling at the pump. and the white house as you point out, has been trying hard over the last few weeks to cast as putin's price hike. something that president putin is essentially inflicting on the american people because of this war and the response from u.s. and its allies to try to cut out russian energy. but the reality is the white house knows that despite the fact there are those positive elements in the economy that you were talking about, really, really low unemployment rates, massive job growth since president biden took office, it's always a losing battle in politics when you're trying to convince people that things are better than they feel like they are. and right now, if you have a job, you're not that worried about unemployment. you're worried about the fact

your basics are costing you more so as a result, you have to choose what you're not going to buy that you were buying before. that's why president biden is using that, today, this bio fuel center he's touring in iowa, to make this announcement about what the white house hopes will be a step that will lower gas prices a little bit by allowing consumers this summer to purchase what's called e-15, a bio feel that has up to 15% ethanol in it. it costs about 10% per gallon less than a normal gallon of gasoline. this is not something that's going to solve the price problem for people, but it is an effort by the administration to show where they can take action to make people's economic a little better. they're doing it. >> ron, as we look and wait for the president to make these comments and as josh has laid out the strategy, help us to put this inflation spike, if you will, into context and give us a

bit of the reality check on this attempt by the white house to point the finger overseas at putin. >> well, i think you know, anybody who would be in office right now in the white house would have a legitimate case to make that the pandemic related supply disruptions, the war related supply disruptions are having an inordinate impact on the supplies of goods around the world, which is food, energy, computer chips, a whole host of products that's driving up this rate. go back to 2020. february of 2020. none of this was in place. we had inflation that was below 2%. an unemployment rate about where it is today. just about 3.5%. but you know, russia's the third largest energy producer in the world. it's the biggest exporter. we have ukraine last year shipped 43 million tons of grains. they've only shipped 1 million tons since july of last year with expectations that were there not a war, they would have

shipped 65 million tons this year. it's hard to suggest that the white house is finger pointing when these things are very real. they're not made up. this is a series of disruptions that no one had planned for and demand has rebounded nicely and in fact, back to pre pandemic levels for a lot of goods and services, the supply has not come back online. >> ron, thank you. josh, thank you. to ukraine now. secretary of state blinken this afternoon saying he's not able to confirm reports that russia is using chemical weapons in mariupol. president zelenskyy says he's taking those reports in his words as seriously as possible. mariupol, again in the spotlight now with russia looking like it's getting ready to beef up its presence, the number of troops in that area. i want to bring in ali who's live in ukraine. good afternoon to you. >> this report about chemical

weapons is being taken very seriously here in ukraine because it's been an issue from the beginning of the war. the russians, they feared the russians were going to use some sort of false flag operation to justify their use of chemical weapons. you know, they were saying the ukrainians are using them in labs with the help of the u.s. there was no evidence to prove that, but what's happened in mariupol, there's no evidence it's been used in mariupol, but the u.s., the u.k., are taking it very seriously after reports from the far right as of brigade saying three of their soldiers were poisoned by some kind of substance in mariupol. now, we can't confirm that because no independent body can get in there. usually if something like this were to happen, the opcw would go in there, the organization of prohibition of chemical weapons would go in there, take samples and determine what happened but as you mentioned, mariupol has been surrounded by russian troops. nothing can get in, nothing can get out. and as you said, they are

pushing really hard to take that city. they want to take control of that entire city. it's going to be a key momentum in the battle for them. so unconfirmed reports. nobody can prove it, but it is a fear that it may be used here. it could happen later, but nobody has been able to confirm it and then in other parts of the city, we've seen real atrocities going on in ukraine. officials in bucha are saying that over 400 civilian bodies have been found in that city. they think that number could go up significantly because there are so many people still missing and the russian onslaught is looking heavily east. there's a massive arm ri heading towards the east of the country. ukrainians are also beefing up there, but not in the numbers of the russians. >> thank you so much for staying on top of that huge story for us. we're staying on top of the other big story, too. of course, what has happened at

the new york city subway station. ten people shot. the suspect still out there. police with this huge man hunt now looking for this person. for now, deadline white house starts right now. hi there, everyone. any moment now, president biden will speak for the first time since the attack at a subway station which at least 16 people were injured. ten of them shot during rush hour this morning in brooklyn, new york. we'll bring those remarks to you live when they happen, but we begin on the ground in new york city, which is reeling from the attack and on edge with the suspect still at large. five of the victims in the attack are in critical but stable condition. fortunately, none of the injuries are life threatening. videos from the scene show panicked