that was a joke. >> okay. i'm actually just going to walk away. you win. you can have easter. >> and you know what? i would be so good with bunny because i have told america covid would be over by easter. i just didn't say which one, okay? i didn't say which one it was going to be. >> all right. that wraps it up for me this hour. i'll be back in the chair next saturday and sunday. reverend al sharpton, politics nation starts right now. good evening and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, hope rises. right now, many of the world's believers are in the midst of a religious observance. for christians like myself, today is easter, a day of peace,

hope, and renewal on this residence recollection sunday. however, that faith is being tested globally. russia's war in ukraine is nearly two months old, and according to u.s. intelligence, we could soon be entering a violent new phase. as i speak, the port of mariupol is on the brink of being the first major city to fall after refusing russia's deadline to surrender. and the russian military is delivering on its threat to retaliate for the sinking of one of its warships. launching more rocket attacks in and around kyiv and other cities this weekend. the latest from ukraine coming up shortly on politics nation. but tonight, i'm talking about peace of every kind. that includes my own peace of mind as a black american

watching our domestic politics impeded by process in fighting among democrats and obstruction by republicans. and i'm thinking of black people like patrick -- who continued to needlessly die in police shootings. too many of our leaders continue to channel for votes because it works, and the leading division make it impossible to address our growing dysfunction. as democrats try to salvage the agenda with less than seven months lfr elections, i'll talk to the highest ranking man in congress about where, what, and when his party can deliver before november. that's coming up. but we start tonight in ukraine. let's get to nbc's foreign correspondent ali aruzy who

joins us from lviv. we know at least five people were killed in kharkiv and 13 hurt in the latest russian attack there in kharkiv. what can you tell us? >> good evening, it's been a relentless assault on kharkiv. even president zelenskyy spoke about it this evening in his latest video address. they've killed five people today, injured another 13. but over the last four days, they have killed 18 people in that city and injured more than 100 people. this is what we've seen the russians do time and time again. we heard reports today that the ukrainians had pushed the russians out of three cities out of kharkiv. as those russian troops got pushed out of those villages, they started shelling the center of that city relentlessly.

the videos coming out of there are very troubling. we've seen shellings on rooftops of residential buildings. the med ibs in that city were trying to rescue civilians, there was more shelling, more sounding of bombs, so they have been brutalizing the people in that city like they have done in so many cities across this country. and as you mentioned, mariupol, that's a disaster in that city. they told them if they lay down their arms, they will allow them to go. but the defenders of that city didn't listen to that message. they are still fighting as hard as they can to push that russian assault. but there are very few fighters in mariupol. nothing can get in, nothing can go out. president zelenskyy warned the russians if those people that are left in mariupol are killed,

any peace deal that were on the table will come off the table. but the russians have never been particularly serious about any sort of peace deal with the ukrainians. it's not just about ukraine not joining nato. they seem to want some land here as well. but ukrainians are fighting hard and saying they are not willing to give up any land in their country. even zelenskyy mentioned that again today that they're not willing to give up any of the donbass region in that fight. so this looks like this war is now going to enter a much more lethal phase. >> all right. ali, thank you for that report. joining me now is congressman jim clyburn, democrat of south carolina and house majority. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight, especially on easter sunday. but i want to get first to get

your thoughts about ukraine because many americans are rightfully concerned about what's taking place there this holiday weekend. as we mentioned, the city of mariupol is effectively surrounded and nbc news is reporting that the ukrainian military is running out of ammunition as russia appears to be preparing for another offensive. do democrats in congress stand by the authorize more aid for ukraine and its people if needed as this conflict wears on? i don't hear the -- i think we have lost sound with the congressman. but i -- i believe that we -- i believe we'll go to break and try -- okay. we've got the congressman back.

we do not need to go to break. let's go to the congressman. he's with us now. >> well, i said thank you very much for having me on this residence recollection day. yes, we are very much involved in this conflict or this war, and i can agree with president biden that we see genocide taking place here. you may recall back in march when we were down in selma, i remember very well over in montgomery as we were about to leave, several of those, what we call foot soldiers saying to me, we appreciate all the work you're doing trying to obtain voting rights, trying to protect the voting rights act, but you've got to do what's necessary to stop putin. if you don't, there's not going to be anything here for us to vote for. this democracy will come to an

end. and that's coming from people who fought so hard back in the early 1960s trying to get the right to vote, trying to be a part of this democracy now saying we must put priority on protecting this democracy. so not just the democrats, but the american people, are behind president biden to do what is necessary to protect ukraine. >> now, congressman, democrats have just a few months left before -- they just have a few months left to even pass additional legislation before the midterm elections. what has leadership learned from the demise of the build back better act. can you get it passed through reconciliation even with the war in ukraine and eating up much of the politics on capitol hill?

can you get something finished even if it's piece by piece in terms of build back better? >> yes, i think we can and i think we will. the fact of the matter is we already heard that compromise is not just on the table, but it's attainable on such leads as climate change. we've heard that we are pretty much together on trying to put a ceiling on the cost of pharmaceuticals. we've already passed in the house recently a cap on insulin to $35 a month. so those things are contained in what we were calling build back better, but we are going to put together a building a better america, and it's going to have much of this in it. there's one thing that i'm working hard on, i hope we can get in it, and that is get legislation to protect the electoral count. and in that legislation, we are to do what is necessary to apply what we call preclearance to all

50 states. if we get that and nullify the ability of the process of nullifying votes, i think that we will obtain a great deal for the american people. >> now, this week we learned inflation hit a 40-year high and the nation's largest online retailer, amazon, slapped a 5% fuel and inflation surcharge on its online sellers which will mean higher prices for consumers and smaller profits for small business people. i don't need to tell you, congressman, that when prices go up, it's working class families of color and people living pay check to pay check that get hurt first. what can democrats do to help them? >> well, i think the president has done some things when he's tapped into our oil reserve. i do believe we are going to get some movement on that issue as

well. now, tax on gasoline, i think we ought to be able to get a carveout according to what kind of work people do so people in rural communities, people who rely upon gasoline purchasing in order to protect their small familiars, i think we can do something and get a -- for these people, and i'm hopeful that that will be done as soon as we get that. >> congressman, before we lose you, protests are ongoing in grand rapids, michigan nearly two weeks after a man was shot in the head and killed by a grand rapids police officer after just a traffic stop. i'll be in grand rapids friday with his family and attorney ben krump. i'll be there to deliver the eulogy as head of the network, and i think about what i'm going to say. and as i think about preparing, i think about the federal legislation that is not

materialized to constrain police conduct after the murder of george floyd. can we expect to see a renewed effort to get something passed before november, or do the politics make that unlikely at best? >> we have not stopped trying to get this done. i have been working on this with senator cory booker. i think we still are have the possibilities of getting something done. but i've also said, and i think you've heard me time and time again say, i think there are some things the president ought to be able to explore with his executive authority. i am a big believer in using the executive plifl edge that the president has in order -- his authority, not just his privilege, in order to get things done. that's special proclamation there. i say over and over again, we integrated the armed service

with an executive order. there are a lot of things we do with executive orders, and i think the president ought to explore doing that if we can't get legislation done within the next few weeks. >> all right, congressman james clyburn. let me thank you again for speaking last saturday, and i want to say again that i believe that the incoming justice ketanji brown jackson is a direct result of the work of james clyburn. thank you again. next, as we celebrate easter, we're taking time to celebrate americans who have risen up and made a difference. plus, a closer look at the current state of black america. what they say is one of the biggest threats facing black people now. first my colleague richard lui. stories that we're watching for you this hour, two minors

killed and several more injured in a shooting sunday morning. officials say up to 200 people were at a party in pittsburgh. that's when dozens of shots range out just after midnight. many of the attendees were underage. also, a shooting at a club that left at least nine people injured in south carolina. no reports of fatality there. this comes after a shooting at a mall injured 14 people separately. pope francis made an anguished plea for peace. he called for an end to the, quote, senseless war in ukraine. he warned of the risk of nuclear war as he spoke from the balcony of st. peter's square this morning. more politics nation with al sharpton right after this break. sharpton right after this break. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long.

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for nearly half the world's population, for christians such as myself, today is easter. meanwhile, for jewish people, they just observed passover. and for muslims, we are in the midst of the holy month of ramada. so far, this edition of rise up, for this edition, i want us to celebrate the festive time with a look at some of the americans who made a dimps this week. we lead off with the san francisco giants alyssa spds nakken who was the first woman to coach on the field in regular season games. alyssa barely had time to think when she was asked to grab a helmet and take her spot next to

first base after another coach was ejected from the game. now that she's had time to reflect, she says it's a big deal, and it's her job now to, quote, honor those who helped me to where i am, unquote. this is a huge step for the major league baseball league as it works to diversify the professional staff, which is currently made up of 30% women, according to 2021 racial and gender report card released by the institute for diversity and ethics in sports. in missouri, democratic state congressman rose up on thursday to take a brave stand against a bill targeted transgender athletes. the bill was put forward by republicans who claim they want to save women's sports.

it would have barred transfemales from participating. congressman mackey made an emotional argument against the bill by talking about his own experiences growing up as a guy teenager. >> this is what you're focused on. this is the legislation you want to put forward. this is what consumes your time. for 18 years, i walked around with nice people like you who took me to ball games, who told me how smart i was, and it went to the ballot and voted for crap like this. >> the bill did eventually pass, but congressman mackey's powerful speech went viral. finally, there's betty reid soskin. she celebrated her retirement from the national park service yesterday where she had been the

oldest active park ranger in the u.s. betty didn't even start her ranger career until the age of 84, but she was instrumental of sharing the stories of black workers on the home front during the world war ii while serving at the national park in richmond, california. these three individuals all came from very different back grounds, led very different lives, but what they all have in common is they all rose up and used their experience skl talents to not only better themselves, but to improve the lives of those around them. this holiday, i urge each and every one of you to think about their stories and to strive to follow their examples. we'll be right back. examples. we'll be right back. ts. the farmer's dog makes it simple to feed your dog real food. it's real meat and veggies.

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urban league provides insight into everything from the economy and voting rights as it pertains to black america and the state of black america. this year, the index shows black americans only get 73.9 of what white americans enjoy. not much difference from the 2000 to 2005 area. there have been huge strides in categories such as economics and health. both up by several percentage points. where the numbers dipped by nearly 10 percentage points was in social justice and civic engagement. black americans lost ground in these areas according to the report. here to talk more about the report's findings is the president and ceo of the national urban league. mark, let's dive right in. you and i have worked closely

together, so have to do a whole runway to start with you. the state of black america report began in 2005. this year's index shows the quality of life among black americans has remained relatively consistent at 73.9% compared to white americans. now, this figure looks at howell black americans are doing in comparison to whites when it comes to economic status, their health, social justice, and engagement. what are some hurdles in place preventing this gap from closing? >> reverend, first of all, happy easter to you. thank you for your partnership and leadership. it's always good to be on politics nation. this report underscores the fact that the gaps in american life between blacks and whites when it comes to social and economic conditions are in a form of suspended animation.

that the differential doesn't change much on an overall basis. we saw modest gains in economics, modest gains in health, and i would underscore, these figures are prethe covid pandemic. so the economic gain we had consistent economic expansion that began under barack obama and continued into 2020. we had the affordable care act, those factors played a huge role in the change in those areas. we've also had in the civic's engagement base -- and this is a key part of this report -- this campaign, this plot, this effort to undermine black and broad participation in elections. it's the assaults on the voting rights act. it's ause of a filibuster to reinstate section five of the

act. it's voter suppression laws by the hundreds. voter suppression laws being either passed or promoted or proposed in states across the nation. and that underscores why this report says that we are undersieged and there's a plot to undermine american democracy. much of it operated beyond the strategic view of people. they saw things here and things that -- what they didn't realize -- i think many people didn't realize is how orchestrated all of this was until you saw what happened on january 6th. you saw what happened in this effort to allow for partisan overturning of election, so the overall -- >> and we're seeing now text messages and all that shows that there was an organized and coordinated effort.

>> no question. and we have to push back on it, and we have to insist, and congressman clyburn has been a champion for so much. right now, it is all about voting rights. it's all about protection of democracy. we're going into an election cycle with all of this smoke of voter suppression, the fire of gerrymandering. the effort to discredit elections officials, a campaign of big lies and subversion, and people, we're going to have to stand up, not see frustration and cynicism as a strategy or a tactic, but stand up and do everything we can to participate in this election without the right to vote, without the ability to sit at the table in the decision-making corridors of government, then we can't impact economics, education. we can't impact social justice

and civic engagement in the way we want. so all these issues are tied together, and the analogy we have been using is the caboose on the train. african americans, when it comes to these categories, it remains at twice what it is for whites. and that's the challenge for 21st century america. so the report is free, it's available. we hope people will download it, take a look at it, and use it for their discussions and debates, and election officials will use it for policy-making. >> state of america.org. now, the report also shows that black americans have only modest gains in economics and health since 2000 to 2005. right now, black wealth is up just over 5 percentage points, and health is up over 8

percentage points in the past nearly two decades. the biden administration is considering one executive action that could help boost those numbers by canceling some student debt, which would make it easier for some black families to pay their bills and take out lines of credit. but with inflation looming, more must be done. what other executive actions could biden issue to uplift the black community? >> well, i think executive actions are policing any executive actions on voting, certainly, to cancel as much of student debt as can be done by executive action will allow many more african-american families to become qualified for homeownership. student debt is one of the great barriers to many family's qualifying for conventional

30-year mortgages. so i urge the president to do everything in his power by executive action, but i challenge the democrats also because it's clear there's going to be modest or no republican support for much of this, to settle whatever differences they have among themselves, use the reconciliation process to pass whatever portions of the build back better plan can be put together in a reconciliation bill and to do it before the midterm. do it and make it a legislative priority. >> now, one of the most drastic drops highlighted in your report is social justice. that figure fell nearly 6 civic points. it includes traffic stops and actual police and the use of force by officers. the civil engagement piece takes into account voting community

participation and collective bargain. this also comes as the washington post reports over 1,000 people were shot and killed by police last year alone. right now, we're following the case of patrick liola in grand rapids, michigan. what do you think is behind the drop? how do you interpret these numbers? >> i think there's been a bit of a backlash in american life. i think trumpism is part of that backlash. certainly whenever you get a spike in gun violence in america, sometimes people believe that the criminal justice system needs to participate in crackdown efforts, and it is troubling that this challenge of unarmed black men particularly being shot and killed by the police remains unevaded. you and i worked hard on the

george floyd justice and policing act. once again, the senate filibuster stopped that act when we had an opportunity to go on record and do something. did it solve all of these problems? no the. but it is important that the congress go on record saying that they're going to take a stand against unfair police misconduct, the killings of unarmed black men and put some tools in the hands of the justice department and private citizens of the civil justice system to recompense families so there's some accountability when these thing occur. i want to remind people that this is not inconsistent with efforts to confront the spike in gun violence that we have in america today. the last thing we need to do is make the mistakes of the 80s when we had -- and the 90s when we had spikes in gun violence,

and people ran to crackdown and do more arrests for minor crimes. that will not work. there needs to be a better more sensible approach, and we can as a nation and as local communities, do all of these things in concert with each other and together. >> there must be the balance, public safety as well as criminal justice reform. mark, one of the things that strikes me about your report is that black people are resilient. they are progressively making strides despite constant push back. but as you know right now, at least 19 states have passed new restrictive voting legislation. with the midterm months away, what can black americans do to make sure their voices are heard? >> right now, in the face of these barriers, we have to make voting in the midterm the highest of high priorities. we need to be registered, we

need to make sure everyone in our household, in our family, our social circles are registered to vote. we need to understand what the limitations, the restrictions, the new rules are in your state. we need to come together to push back if we can against those rules, but to otherwise vote in large numbers. if we have to take the day off, if we can take the day off from working on election day to make sure that we can stand in lines because there are going to be long lines, we have to do that. whatever it takes, we have to stand up, and we must vote. >> thank you for being with us on this easter. my political panel is next. stay tuned. ®! ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh ♪ ozempic® is proven to lower a1c.

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welcome back to politics nation. let's bring in my political panel. joining me now is democratic strategist michael hardway. thank you both for joining me today on easter. now, it's been 52 days since putin invaded ukraine. the united states and its european allies have begun coordinating on a new strategy to isolate russia from the rest of the international community. but michael, there's also the

issue of unity here at home. a number of right-winged republicans in congress have actually voiced support for russian president vladimir putin. how big a problem do you think that is? >> well, it sucks the conscious of one's imagination that in the middle of such horrific war crimes being put forth by vladimir putin that anyone, less an american official would report and continue to do what they've done, which is show they put their party above their country. i think that's shameful. i think if you look at the polling across america in both parties, the majority of americans support this president and his actions to bring justice to vladimir putin nogt withstanding the empty stoop policies. >> now, i want to get your

thoughts about the moves made this week by two high-profile republican governors. on friday, texas governor greg abbott had to give up on a policy of inspecting commercial trucks near the u.s./mexico border after a week of backlash over backed up traffic and fears about the economic impact. and in florida, governor ron desantis has been pushing to take over the redistricting process and draw maps that critics say are overtly racist. in both of these cases, these governors seem to be trying to play by their own rules. what's going on here? >> reverend, they've taken the mask off for all of america to see. there was a time when both of these governors of texas and florida, massive states in our country not to be discounted had

been applauded for their leadership. there were moments that looked promising that the republican party could turn a corner. when i say they've taken the mask off, it's clear they're playing political games, games that show us that they want to make americans in their state suffer to they can make democrats look bad. this is all about making democrats look like they are the ones driving up inflation, when it's governor abbott who did it, by creating supply chain issues. texas's largest port that does billions in business, the back ports and imports, this is clearly the governor's end goal is to really say it's the democrats doing this to you. i will save you in the midterms, keep us red, vote us red, and don't go blue. so what we really need to see here is the games that have

clearly been so cold to so many of us because they're not just affecting our wallets, they're affecting our livelihoods. there needs to be a clear rejection of desantis as well. when we talk about texas and florida, we need to tell the truth about what these governors are are doing and what their end goal is. >> what's your end take on these governors? >> it's horrifying. you have a state in florida where you have a significant case of covid deaths and cases. you have a state in texas where there's significant economic problems in that state where you have nearly 40% of rural texans who say that their local economy is terrible. so these governors should be doing something to help their constituents rather than making their lives harder, letting all these things fall by the waste

side, and average americans are suffering. frankly, if you look at a guy like desantis, he clearly would do anything to make it to the white house in 2024. he'll copy donald trump in every capacity he can. and frankly, i don't think the voters will fall for it. >> now, friday, former president donald trump officially endorsed hill billy author j.d. advance calling him, quote, the most -- the candidate most qualified and ready to win in november. political king makers don't normally make their biggest endorsements on friday afternoons ahead of a holiday weekend. and we know not everyone in trump's world is excited about j.d. advance. what's your take on the former president's latest pick and his influence on the republican party headed into the midterm

primary season? >> i think we know that donald trump is unconventional in every way, so we shouldn't read too far into what this endorsement means because this is a total jungle in this ohio race. what we have been seeing is the monkeys emerging and these monkeys being these outlandish candidates that say things and do things that are not just offensive by conventional wisdom, but they really are almost in a race to see who's going to sound better for trump's base of vote. and so, inevitably, the former president had to make an endorsement. there's no doubt about it. he had to do it. was it going to be man dell or advance? i think he went with whatever his gut told him at the last minute. donald trump was never a conservative. he was always a pop ewe list. so when you see advance say certain things, now it kind of makes more sense why he went

with advance. >> michael, political is out today with an article on vice-president harris' recent trip. she has recently been in greenville, mississippi, and louisiana speaking to overlooked communities about what their concerns are. president harris faced some criticism for her performance early in her term, some of it unfairly. do you think she has made moves to turn things around? >> she's doing the right thing, which is getting out of washington and going to where the people are. as you stated earlier, the elites have sort of attacked her a number of different capacities that are both unfair and unreasonable, but i think she's taking a lead in going out to the people in the south and in rural america and in urban america and really advocating for the policies of this president and making clear that this president and this administration have been fighting for those people.

she's doing the right thing there can be p i would say that inside of the white house she's also working incredibly hard in terms of taking meetings along with the president with other leaders who have been coming to washington to meet on russia and a number of other issues. so she'swork. the elites may not like her, but i think the people like her and that's what's most important. >> she's definitely been on the world stage and moving around the country. michael and rina, thank you both for being with us on easter. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. but are these lines enough? a subaru with eyesight... (kid vo) hey dad! (vo) ...watches the lines for any danger... and can automatically stop itself. (mom) is everyone ok? (kid) i'm ok. (vo) your family is safer in a three-row subaru ascent. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.

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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'm see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. former hud secretary julian castro special host of "american voices" tonight. he picks up our news coverage now. >> thanks, reverend sharpton. hello everyone, i'm julian castro filling in for