donald trump lost. this week, a new york judge denied trump's bid to lift a 10,000 dollar per day fine against him, for failing to turn over documents subpoena by new york attorney general, laetitia james. in a sworn affidavit, trump claimed he, did not have the documents that the attorney generals office asked for the investigation of trump's organizational finances. so, he should not have to pay. the judge did not buy that. manhattan supreme court judge, arthur, and it is objective trump saying. mr. trump's personal affidavit, devoid of useful detail. basically, saying, trump, and his lawyers, did not search hard enough for the documents, and he would have to start paying the fine, effective tuesday, of this week.

by our count, trump already owns $50,000 and counting. we will have more on that legal ruling, later, in the 9 pm hour. coming up this hour, the white house correspondents dinner, live. the event, making a triumphant return, after a two-year absence. the daily shows trevor noah, hosting, and roasting, president biden, and his administration tonight. they will also get in some barbs, and punchlines, and it is both speeches live. but, first, let's talk about the bizarre paranormal activity, dominating politics this week. so, we've got a visit for the ghost of republican grievance passed. looming just around the corner, republican seems to have just one thing on their minds. >> first off, let's be clear

tonight. the election, in 2020, was, rigged and stolen. all the men, that we see from the biden administration, 2 million illegals, rising gas prices. unbelievable inflation, the brink of war. all of, that started in georgia, when our governor, allowed radical democrats to steal our election. >> that was a former senator, david perdue, opened the georgia republican gubernatorial primary debate this week, for the 2022 midterms. and, in pennsylvania's gop senate primary debate, four candidates, agreeing, we need to get to the bottom of the 2020 election. we cannot move on from it, according to disgraced tv doctor, never an office. you know what's telling about this? it's been a year and a half since trump rightfully, and legally, lost the 2020 election. so many republicans are obsessed with his loss. do they have anything of substance to run on in the next

election? or, is their entire political party platform, just tired, debunked conspiracy theories of yesteryear? let's bring in my all-star panel for the hour, and nbc political analysts. also, an msnbc political analyst, but a professor, and share, of the department of african american studies at princeton. andrew wilson, a political strategist, and one of the cofounder lincoln projects. it is the whisper on the panel, and in 2022, it is the 2020 election, and they're having a shot of winning the republican primary. >> i do. i firmly -- you firmly have to embrace the big lie, and some dark forces, out of the world, had somehow stolen from him. you have to be the most vocal as far to the edge of the reality as you can. it is a conservative, but not

just an insane republican. he was considered more of a moderate republican. so, he has taken all crazy pills possible, and to quote the political scientist, zoolander. he, absolutely, we'll pretend that donald trump had the election stolen, and this is just a vast conspiracy. they're doing this in pennsylvania, in ohio, and every other consequential race in the country, where they have learned that the only way to keep themselves and trump's good graces is to pretend, and fully embrace, the big lie that he won the election. >> it is like another planet. the last hour, we were talking about a conspiracy, but the one that led into the insurrection, in the last week, there has been so much light on that front. giving us an insight into republican leaders true feelings, behind closed doors, about that insurrection. donald trump, kevin mccarthy, mcconnell, it feels like they

wanted to get rid of him. let's just say that. now, donald trump, arguably, has a firmer grip on the party than ever before. what happened? you are muted at a, on me. >> i should know better by, now right? >> two things are going on right now. what we see with the tapes, around the january tapes in this election, are cynical politicians who, simply, just one on the power. then there's the other aspect. he's right, there are folks who want to brand themselves as trump pests, but this is a strategy. this has everything to do with, how do we turn out disaffected white voters? how do we turn out, in effect, trump space? how do we increase our numbers? we have to appeal to agrees grievance, resentment, and the shorthand for grievance, right now, is the 2020 election.

so, this is a strategy aimed at activating those voters, and to get enthusiasm on their side. so, we have this cocktail, and it is a cynic, accrued politicians, who want to hold on to power. understanding, the way to do so is to activate the grievance of those disaffected white voters, so they can turn out on their behalf. >> i want to know your reaction, to the republican party, being stuck in 2020. >> look, i feel like carole jeffries captured the sentiment, perfectly, and said that the gop playbook, the republican extremist playbook, is to lie, lie, and live some more. when you are caught in that, lie and keep it going. like that is the move here, and it's not going to change. but, what i think is going to cause things to flip on their head, is the reality that trump's base is starting to move away from him. remember, there was nbc polling, a month or two ago, that show that within the gop, republican

voters who are fewer, or identifying them is our tenth-ifying general republican supporters. it is 13, to 15 points, and that is in february. that trend is going to continue, to some degree. it is to call on a grievance, to call in 2020, is two-pronged. it is to rile up what he still has a hold of, with the republican voters and still are dedicated to him. they are all about self preservation, and it is going to be some blow back. remember, the 2021 senate runoff where, in georgia, both democrats emerged victorious lead because republicans believe the lies so much, they set, they were just going to stay home? i think, on top of that, we know that trump endorsed candidates, and not only to stay in his good graces, but,

and they are appealing to the same base to emerge from the primary vote. it was a more calm language, a more acceptable language, in the general election. >> i question, rick, if they will. i just feel, like this, like there is a lot of conversation. you hear this message about democrats, they've gone too far to the left, they're marxists, whatever markey rubio tweeted earlier. so, i feel like it's actually the republican party denying valid, and legal election results is trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, that feels like a bigger shift. >> it is a bigger shift. i just want to touch on one more thing that they reminded me of. so, the key vote, after january 6th, to invalidate the election, that 140 plus republicans made was, essentially, to invalidate

the votes of african american voters in pennsylvania, it was in michigan. so, that is what they were after in this vote. it really does speak to something that is, now, a static column among all of the other messaging in the republican party right now, which is that they're coming to invalidate to your vote. i think it's important, and when i will say about the party, is this. there is an enormous set to perverse incentives with the republican party. what i call, the hamster wheel, that always runs on the gop, is they say something crazy, transgressive, it is one normal people feel that that's crazy, don't say that, they then go to fox and say, i'm being canceled, oh my gosh, the liberals are trying to cancel me. then they go on hannity, or tucker, and on whoever on the meeting parade at fox, but they said only messing, you see me on fox? i'm fighting back against being canceled! that perverse incentive cycle goes over, and over again.

they don't need to please their base, ever talk about anything, except, the crazy. the base eats the crazy stuff up, and they absolutely adore being told that they're dark forces in the world, coming to get them. it is the next big crazy fundraising emails from ron desantis, or ted cruz, marco rubio, or whoever. >> i said, here two years into the pandemic, wondering where they are not more afraid of covid than they are of the imaginary problems you just laid out there. eddie, in the last minutes here, i just want to talk about the insurrection, specifically. we finally got a date from committee chairman, benny thompson, that there will be public hearings, to ninth. so, speak to the case that the committee needs to lay out, to the public, in order to, effectively, tell the story of what happened in this alleged conspiracy?

>> congressman raskin has given us an indication, that they will lay out the case from the beginning, to end. they will show, there was a deliberate, concerted, premeditated effort to, in effect, overthrow the election. to undermine american democracy. that will be powerful, for a certain sector of america. i think it's important that we understand, the information ecosystem, and how the hearings will land in that ecosystem. so, even if the committee tells that story, in a powerful, compelling way, how will it spin on fox news? how will it spin on oan? how will it spin in that universe? and the folks who buy into those very things we're talking about earlier? i don't know how it will land. i do know they need to be dramatic, they need to be directed, they need to be decisive in how they present the material. we will see what happens. but, the ecosystem, i'm not sure what will follow from at

all. >> definitely a filtered ecosystem we are talking about. panel, stay there, don't go anywhere, don't go to the white house correspondents dinner, you are staying with me. stick around. coming up, donald trump's legal woes, and president biden's legal triumphs. we are waiting to hear from trevor noah, who is headlining the white house correspondents dinner tonight. but, first, richard louis easier with the headlines. hey richard. >> good evening. some of the stories that we're watching this hour is a search underway in alabama, from itching president official, and the murder suspect she was escorting. the official, and suspect, appeared on friday morning, but they never did. the patrol car, find new nearby shopping center. fire crews, working to contain a raging wildfire in santa fe new mexico, destroying over 160 homes, forcing thousands to evacuate. this fire has burned an area of over 150 square miles, as of saturday. over 1000 firefighters, working to contain that place. and, grammy award winning

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much donald trump is being fined after refusing to hand over subpoena documents to the

new york attorney general, as part of her civil investigation into trump's business practices. contrast that with president biden's week injustice. biden took his first clemency action this week, since he entered the white house, pardoning through people and shortening the prison terms of 75 more. not one of those people pardoned who are a friend of president biden's. none of his friends advised him on who to actually pardon. this is quite the change for the man who is being fined for disobeying the court. juanita, adi and rick are back with me. would your thoughts of the presidency's clemency actions this week? >> it is good. i am always happy when these sorts of things happen. i wish it was even more. sometimes, i prefer pardons to commutations. i understand the politics of it given the resources that he is putting into policing and what we will talk about later, the

progressive communities pushing him on. you cannot complain with what you have. but you can ask for more. is that awful enough for you, selina? >> [laughs] i mean, juanita, also on the justice this week, the biden administration announced five new federal judiciary nominees. we have been paying close attention to the work on the administration front. talk about the importance of the judiciary to secure biden's legacy long term and upholding liberal policy goals? >> biden has been fully investing in changing the face of the federal courts since the beginning. a lot of that was to undo some of the harm done by trump and mcconnell who were putting up inadequate judge at the judge, nominee at the nominee. throughout trump's term. here we have a lot of first being achieve with biden that extend well beyond incoming supreme court justice ketanji brown jackson to include women at the level of federal courts.

hispanic judges, muslim judges, getting representation in a way that is critical, i think, again, meeting biden's campaign promise of making sure the courts are more reflective of the american public. just like any already mentioned, we are oh who is gonna want more. it is always natural to what more, especially when you're trying to undo hundreds of years of injustice, making sure that this concerted effort continues it is going to be a big party for the administration. they absolutely deserve a round of applause for all the work they have done, again, to undo some of the harm in lifetime appointments that we saw under donald trump and mcconnell. >> rick, let's talk about donald trump, let's talk about the other side of the coin. lay out the sheer scope of the legal troubles that he is actually facing right now. >> the thing about donald trump is that his legal troubles never quite go away. they ebb and flow, they come back and forth. just like everyone else, i wish

that donald trump was facing justice on a number of things simultaneously. whatever happened in new york with the prosecution there, i cannot speak to. i will say this, however, the one pendant item that is saying over trump said is that it is quite clear that he is the center of the 16 conspiracy. as much as this can center is amongst the committee and merrick garland, i believe that is the most dangerous element of the legal jeopardy donald trump basis. all the garden-variety stuff, all the tax fraud things, those things will never go away. donald trump has run this cracked lewis, 40 or enterprise of low level grift, where he jacks up the ledge value of the property and lowers it to the property razor. that is a long pattern. you always have exposure on the. in florida, in new jersey, in new york, everywhere else, but i do think that the tax troubles that he has have, new york is still pursuing him.

illicit james is not messing around with this guy. she continues to go after him. my view is that the most dangerous thing for donald trump is that his center role in the 16 conspiracy as an instigator, as its private official airy, that will be the thing, historically, personally and legally, that hangs over him like nothing else. >> eddie, do you think trump will ever face accountability in a court? will he ever see his day in court? it feels like the find and rejection of the appeal here might be a signal of things to come, what do you think? >> i have no idea. that is as honest as i can be. i think donald trump is a knuckle dragging -- i also believe that there are those deeply concerned about the millions of americans who are somewhat loyal to him, that he is an avatar for their

grievance and resentment. they are worried about the disrupting effect of what a prosecution of donald trump would mean for the country. i am not sure because folks are, in some ways, engaging in the calculus a what it might mean to hold him to the rule of law. what it might mean for the stability of the republic, so i am coosa but what will happen. >> i love honesty. if you don't know the answer, i don't know, i am not making any predictions, which is probably the right answer. my panel, stay there, again, you're not allowed to leave. i am keeping you hostage for the whole hour. we will be back in just a moment, as we wait for the president to speak at the white house correspondents dinner. ident to speak at the whit ident to speak at the whit house eggland's best eggs. classic, cage free, and organic. more delicious, farm-fresh taste. plus, superior nutrition. which is now more important than ever. ♪♪

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be the most pro union president ever based on his own presidential platform, but has

he lived up to the hype? this week, progressive senator, bernie sanders, decided to circle back on that in a letter to the president. senator sanders said, quote, that campaign promise was exactly right. today, i am asking you to fulfill it. it looks like president biden got the message. the washington post is now reporting that the biden administration is in talks to make their most significant, pro union jester today. biden officials are set to be talking with workers that are behind the union drives amazon and at starbucks about a potential white house visit. back with me now, is my sunday night panel that i am holding hostage. juanita, let me read a little more of what bernie sanders wrote to the president in this letter. he writes, quote, i urge you to ban companies that break federal labor laws from receiving federal contracts. obviously, president biden potentially inviting amazon and starbucks union organizers to the white house is not quite as

far as senator sanders is asking for, but it is those significant? >> it is a show of support, right? president biden has been absolutely clear, especially in his cabinet selections about his support for unions. i think this is something that is a signal of his continuous support. what's senator sanders is saying is, hey, shows more support, do more concrete things that can absolutely rally the efforts of workers who are working to unionize at places like amazon and starbucks. because that is going to be something that will spur energy in our voting ways. i think that, along with other measures, from the biden white house could be helpful and getting more energy among democratic voters to turnout in the midterms. i appreciate senator sanders framing on this. you made the promise, now fulfill that promise. i think that is something we are seeing a case of, not just from senator sanders but from senator warren, who is saying let's go all out and congress

because august recess takes more from working people and working families, who are feeling the effects of inflation. who are feeling the rising cost of basic needs like food and energy and gas. this push, i think, is important for democrats. zerlina, i also think there is a deadline. come july and august, these pushes for the white house will need to cease as democrats get behind a unified message of things they have achieved, as well as some appropriate blame for republicans constructing their agenda, as well. >> professor, how crucial do you think it is for the president to win over union workers ahead of the midterm elections? they are not just part of the democratic base. they are also organizers and boots on the ground, if you will, leading into elections. >> it is absolutely critical. we have to deliver. there are promises made and promises kept. i think senator sanders puts a little fire under the feet of the president. let's hope he follows through.

there is this meme circulating around social media showing the wealth increase of jeff bezos, the guy who just bought twitter, i don't wanna mention his name -- and what is happening in terms of wages, you see this enormous increase of their wealth, and the minimum wage is $7.25 flat. the exit middle shop in the floors and july. if it is not, then we will not see that excitement. it is pena's day. >> his name is elon musk, just saying. [laughs] >> don't say it three times or he will appear. [laughs] >> like candy man, no. political reported this week that massachusetts senator, elizabeth warren, as a plan for democrats to win in the november midterm elections. the plan says that she wants anti price gouging legislation

and a ban on lawmakers doctorates on the senate floor. plus, she wants a quick work on drug pricing and tax affordability. that physically. is this really how democrats will win? is that the winning strategy? >> no, i hate to be the skunk at the garden party here, but that is not was gonna happen. these races will be determined, they will not be a referendum on policies, these will all come down on the directional and personality contests in these states. particularly, the camera kratz need to go on offense. they need to make it clear that everything falls apart with the other guys take charge. they need to make it clear that you are never going to get union work stuff or climate change, or pharmaceutical pressing reform, or anything else, they need to understand the seriousness of this race. i am a long time -- when i used to work on the other side the fence, we very frequently waited for democrats

to issue all these beautiful policy proposals, and we turned them into artifacts, which scared the hell out of people and stole elections. it is important to understand the policy will not win this race. it is going to be about accomplishments, about intentionality, about what kind of future democrats can draw in this country. they are going to have to describe it. based on some of the work they have done, but they were allowed to prosecute the case against the extremist elements of the republican party that are seeking to overthrow this entire system of government. i think they will miss a bow, they will miss it be on this thing, if they are not other prosecuting people and making every republican candidate, making every one of them deny the big lie. making every republican candidate associate with the people that have kicked down the doors, beaten the flagpoles and wet in there and desecrated the u.s. capitol, all for donald trump to try to steal the election from americans. i think it is important that they prosecute the case.

i think it will be vital. they do have a lot of energy. you will not win -- look, i agree that the issue of stock trading is an issue, it is not a decisive issue. it will not swing the general populist. they already hit washington. they already believe it is utterly corrupt. you will not convince them that you will actually do anything rule that. you need to broaden the aperture on this and go after the fight about the freedom of democracy in this country. >> did you agree with rick? how should they prosecute the case, as he put it, against the republican party, that as we discussed earlier, is running on the big lie? >> running on the big lie, but also has been made clear about how they will prosecute democrats if the k control of congress. there is no short of villains within the gop for democrats to lift up. and talking at the congressional district level, at the state level and a national narrative about what is coming in the form of sham

impeachment proceedings against biden, removing democrats from committee positions, trial or investigations into doctor anthony fauci, who have been one of the leading voices of the pandemic. republicans have made it explicitly clear that the trauma and cars that they will inflict, i think democrats need to run that footage back. run back the footage of marjorie taylor greene, hawthorne, everyone who has come out with horrible attacks against democrats and horrible attacks against lgbtq people, african american people, muslim people, from the footage back. it makes the ads themselves. it evokes a sentiment within voters that they absolutely cannot stand, they do not want that to be the face american politics. they don't want to have to deal with a congress that looks like that. so, laying that footage back will be key for democrats across the country in these midterms. >> one of the other questions this week, eddie, was about student loan forgiveness. it is a policy point.

do you think it could help to energize the base of the democratic party, which is young voters and black women? >> yes! i was sitting here listening to rick, and i understand that you are absolutely right, but it is also deeply depressing. -- for sure! >> we already in the election cycle. the horse race is being run. the country is broken. people do want to say that. the fact that we cannot talk about substantive policies to address working people, substantive policies to address students who are literally drowning in student debt, the fact that we cannot talk about the current state of the climate, and how we start to address it substantially. we have these people that don't give a damn about democracy, they just want to hold on the power or seized power.

it is really deeply depressing. it almost makes one feel like the fate of the country is sealed, like it is set. yes, he has to motivate young voters by showing that he's actually responding to the conditions that they are living. yes, he hatch to prosecute the case against these authoritarian's, who are trying to literally undo the republic. i guess he has to chew gum and walk at the same time. >> i mean, they say that all the time of politics, so i guess now, we will put that into action. panel, did not go anywhere, there's a lot more to discuss. next, medicine hawthorne and marjorie taylor greene extended stage in the gop circus. plus, president biden has arrived at the white house correspondents dinner. we will take a speech live when it happens. ts dinner. for me, one of the best things about life is that we keep moving forward.

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hawthorne is having a very bad week. yes, another bad week. on tuesday, the controversial north carolina freshman was cited for bringing a loaded gun into a airport. it is the second time that he has actually done that since he took office just last year. the next day, he was called out by a senior member of his own political party. someone from his own state, senator tom tillis, called for a bipartisan investigation of hawthorne for possible insider trading, calling the allegations, a, quote, serious betrayal of hawthorne's oath into office. not surprisingly, house gop leadership was completely silent. i cannot help but wonder what the reaction would be if madison hawthorne was a democrat. our panel is back. professor, do you see a double standard here? it is a trick question. [laughs] you have republicans handled

these controversies versus how they would act if this were a democrat. >> absolutely, i mean, that is so easy, thank you. i hope i did not whiff on that answer. no, we knew this was coming. we knew this was coming. the moment he said what he said, revealed something that was going on behind closed doors among his republican colleagues. we knew the opposition will emerge, whether we knew about him will be flooding into the public domain, this is just beginning. more is coming. yeah, the moral outrage from some of these folks, take it with a gun assault. these folks did not really care about ethics. they're just coming back after him after what he did in said. >> it is interesting that you mentioned that there is a lot more that may come out because medicine hawthorne, rick, he is not acting like he is afraid that. he's actually out with a new campaign ad in which he is targeting republicans, the

so-called, rhinos. he claims republicans are coming after him. take a look at is that. >> right now, rhinos are spending millions of dollars in north carolina to defeat me. they want someone who will make backroom deals to sell out our values. someone who oil abandon america first principles. >> that is presumably a reference to his home state senator, tom tillis, who called for an ethics investigation against him. are you surprised by his ad attacking his own party? >> not in the slightest, but look, madison violated a cardinal personable and washington. the first rule of republican cocaine orgy parties is that you do not talk about republican cooking orgy parties. madison went out there, and he knew that it was coming. he knew he would unleash if he said that. this is a guy that has lived very close to the edge during his time in office. he is lived right up there in the ragged edge a behavior you

entire time you've been there. the fact he took a gun on the plane twice, sorry, for most people, you would have been jailed on that front. the ecosystem in washington is very trump. there is a point when you are talking about the upper mentioned cocaine orgy parties, that you cannot let madison keep talking. they will try their best to shake this guy. they make it away with it. now, he is in a different ecosystem. he is in the republican crazy town cycle. the real thing you'll know whether he is winning or losing is whether medicine hawthorne stops getting booked on fox news next week. if that happens, if you start disappearing, then he is done. it is over. so -- otherwise, he will continue to misbehave. >> you really got that phrasing in their two times, rick, i am impressed. >> three, actually! [laughs] >> if you're wondering what rick is talking about, he's describing what madison

cawthorn actually said. i would not say the phrase again. it is just a quote, it is not an exaggeration. juanita, the political group, fire medicine hawthorne, which is operated by the american lawmaker pack, submitted a claim to the office of congressional evidence against him requesting investigation into a number of alleged violations, including gifts to one of his employees, undisclosed. hawthorne responded on twitter, dismissing it as all part of a smear campaign against him. people are digging up things from when he was 20. >> he is 26! [laughs] >> a campaign based on nothing but slander and personal tax is a campaign that lacks a true sense of how to save the country from the leftist. should there be an ethics investigation of hawthorne? it seems like there were a lot of developments this week on that front. >> yes, simply put, yes, right? i appreciate this call by the

group, fire hawthorne. i do think to your question, eddie, at the top of the segment, would be different if those democrats? absolutely, in degradement after indignant statement, for speech out there for speech, wall-to-wall coverage on fox, they would have the pitchforks out at the ready. the thing about republicans is, we know, under mccarthy, they can get buck wild. we've seen that with every membered that he has failed to rein in and will continue to fail to rain. they honestly look to democrats do the dirty work. remember, it was democrats that held -- it was democrats that held marjorie taylor greene accountable after her harmful, races incident. it was democrats that's that up because they operate with higher ethics and standard of behavior. the republicans are so down far in the mud, they cannot even cared to consider. well this call for the ethics

investigation is warranted. it likely will not happen, unless democrats help. democrats can let the conference run all over him, he will not do anything. he could say, i will have a private conversation with such a show, they say they will not do it again. i think this is different because it highlights a fissure and breakdown within the republican party, where they are attacking their own. i still do not expect anything substantive to come out of this, or any form of accountability to come for hawthorne. speaker pelosi said this week, oh, i thought you got arrested when you got to take guns on planes. at that you are treated differently when he took a loaded weapon into an airport or an airplane. here we have medicine all thorn get a slap on the wrist from the tsa, from his conference, and luckily, nothing will ever come from it. >> i cannot even bring a full bottle of my hair gel on the airplane -- come on! >> i want you to imagine if -- >> name, it rick!

>> imagine what would happen if omar oman walked into a plane with a gun. what with the republican median apparatus do for a billion years? they will say that she's doing the next 9/11. it would never stop. the idea that this guy gets a free pass, he has gotten a lot of free passes in his life. this is a guy who ran for congress. i know north carolina very well. it is like a second home to me. let's be honest, only in western north carolina, or a few other red places, could you continue to get a hitler's summer home as his vacation. or who would have behaved in this kind of way, over and over again. it's a wild irresponsibility that this kit displays at all times. i love that quote, you're taking things up from early 20's. dude, you are 26. come on! >> come on! >> that was like five minutes

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kamala harris tested positive for covid-19, and then, white house communications director, kate bedingfield, tested positive in the same week. dr. fauci announced that he is not going to attend the white house correspondents dinner that is happening as we speak. yet, here we are, waiting for the president to take the stage. the only thing i am thinking is, is this a good idea? our panel is back. juanita, is this dinner a potential superspreader event? >> i feel like after the previous dinner, i think it was the gridiron dinner last month, that prompted a number of covid cases, people came into the white house correspondents dinner with kind of a similar awareness. i do understand that they required a negative covid test as well as vaccinations for every guest, so precautions are being taken. zerlina, i did take a pause when doctor fauci said he would not be attending. i have a question whether not

biden would be attending. he had just arrived. i think his strategy is, get in lay, give a speech, get out early. i think that is going to make every effort to keep him safe in this environment, where we know precautions have been taken. still, even though doctor fauci said we are post the pandemic stage of this infection spreading across the world, he clearly understood the risk was high enough for him to not step into that room tonight. >> doctor fauci has said that he did an individual assessment of his personal risk, which is not my newspaper assessment. i just repeat it whenever somebody might be somewhere. professor, what would the dc universe do if somehow the president and vice president both have covid at the same time? >> we have constitutional protocols for the, i suppose. i think there would be deep in certain. we know that they would get the best career in the world. but i think we need to be very

mindful, as we move from this pandemic phase two and endemic phase of the virus. people are still dying, people are losing loved ones, people are still getting sick, as we try to get to this next move. we need to be very careful of how we, shall we say, bill board the shift. i was to my students, after the influenza pandemic in the early part of the 20th century, we had the wrong 20's. americans are quick to forget. we cannot forget what we have been through, and what we are currently going through. we need to be very careful. >> it is really true. rick, i feel like over the course of the last few years in the pandemic, we have normalized covid infections. is to be like, who, covid. now, we are like, there are cases, people are dying, but is fine. there is long covid, of course. having normalized covid infections too much? >> i think a grim statistic

with covid is that we will cross 1 million deaths sometime in the very near future. yes, obviously, i am not an epidemiologist, i am an amateur epidemiologists, like americans are. as doctor fauci said, we are past the work of the peak of covid, but it still has enormous ramifications and impacts on our society. it still has enormous knock on effect on the economy. look, unless we continue to push to get vaccinations to the point where they mitch critical mass, we are almost there, we are still going to have this grinding away, killing folks that were vulnerable, who are our immunocompromised and causing the personal toil and dislocation of pain, and the economic dislocation of pain. it is important to take it seriously, but i will say that we are probably --

i want to acknowledge what fauci said, we are past the point where mask and lockdowns will be a day-to-day thing, that i should have appeared very early in 2020, when trump knew disappeared of this. where we are, we are passed it in a big way, socially. >> juanita tolliver, eddie glaude jr., rick wilson, you are sticking around for the rest of ras correspondence dinner. you're not allowed to leave yet. i want to take everybody making time for us. until we meet again, i am serena maxwell, msnbc will continue to monitor the white house correspondents dinner, and richard louis will bring you special coverage of president biden's speech, also trevor noah. goodnight. , trevor noah.

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