tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 1, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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hey good afternoon i'm yasmin visalli in. we are covering some big news right. now nancy pelosi and a congressional delegation make a surprise visit to ukraine. and president zelenskyy -- while ukraine's future may request on a new aid requesting congress. also a desperate evacuation from a steel plant in mariupol getting underway. in a moment when i talk to a member of the mariupol city council. we are also awaiting live remarks from the president. speaking any moment now at a public memorial for the late by president mondale. and later on this hour, and honor 38 years in the making. a woman denied her rightful place as class valedictorian as a teenager finally gets what was hers all along. you don't wanna miss that
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story. it is coming up. we want to begin though, with those new comments following the surprise visit to ukraine by house speaker nancy pelosi. and the small congressional delegation as well to meet with president zelenskyy in the capital city of kyiv. pelosi speaking after traveling to poland from ukraine. take a look at this. >> do not be bullied by police. if they are making threats, you could not back down. that is my view of it. that you were there for the fight. and you cannot fold to a bully. >> nbc's -- perry is in the capital of kyiv following the story. bring us up today. we know that this was a surprise visit due to security reasons, as we've seen in other instances as well. what are we learning about this exchange? about this meeting? >> yeah, in this visit, the security --
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the surprise of it came through. we have that comment by zelenskyy, which blew the lid off of this -- but we did not hear about pelosi's visit until she had left. we heard about it this morning and they were here yesterday. much of the visit was important for symbolic reasons. to show that u.s. politicians stand behind president zelenskyy. that was the headline from nancy pelosi. but there's also a great deal of discussion about where the money is actually going, and the weapons that are going into the country, specifically into the east. and the types, the specific types of weapons that ukraine needs. and this is with the ukrainian president had passed on to -- take a little listen to would adam said about the particular weapons they need after this meeting. >> certainly there a lot of things that we discussed. i had not heard before, in terms of the needs that ukraine has. what we might do to firm their help. we also discuss the weapons ukraine needs. i think at the top of the ukraine list is multiple rocket
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launcher systems. which i think will be quite devastating in this new phase of the war. >> and when you look at the fighting that is taking place in the east, this new phase of the war as you heard there, it is standoff artillery. we're talking about these howitzers that were so important to the ukrainian military. about half in that last package there on the, front is a way to keep the russians where they are. -- we had today, a little bit of a break. so some civilians could get out, according to the ukrainian president. at least 100 were evacuated. that was courtesy of the international red cross and united nations. it was a priority of the secretary general. who is in moscow and then came here. you can see on the left side of your screen how fierce the fighting is ness city. all the more reason that ukrainians want to rush the military aid to the east and mariupol. again, the bad infill check from ukraine officials, they say they are blocking down. even though it is really, the damage is incredible.
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they are barking down russian troops. they are keeping them from swinging to those eastern parts of the country. >> cal, why have you. do you have any information on these blast, these fires that we've been hearing about happening inside of russia? i believe one was at a storage depot, a chemical plant as well. we're getting a trickle in a reporting from this. wondering if you have any more information on this? >> yes. this is in the ballarat region of russia. the russian side of the border. and we've seen an uptick in the quote unquote explosions. the ukrainian government not taking responsibility for it -- but some cryptic messages. some were saying it was karma. and when you look at the military package, and specifically this last package that was sent here to ukrainian forces, a lot of, it again, is the standoff artillery. but there are drones that are included in this package. but can be used for offensive purposes. and then you have government officials in southern russia hearing droned than hearing explosions.
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the more attack that you see taking place in, russia according to putin, will be retaliated in kyiv. we will obviously wait and see if that happens, yasmin. >> cal perry for us in the capital city. thank you, carroll. i want to bring in maxim -- mariupol city -- next, and thank you for joining us. we appreciated. as, always we love having you on our program. we are obviously hearing about what's happening in your city. in that steel plan as well. it's horrendous to think about. we are now hearing of the possibility that 100 people have gotten out, through this american in corridor. there are still people left inside the still. plante was left -- else do you know? >> at this moment, it is known for sure that it was impossible to -- about 100 civilians -- it is very good news for us. but the bad news is there are more people left in their. our soldiers, heroes a lot of them have -- but understand that surrender
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for russia's guarantee death to them. -- our people surrender and then rushes killed him in captivity. it is really -- >> do you know how many people are left inside the steel plant? and are they allowing any supplies to get in, meaning food and water? >> russians don't let any supplies, any medical supplies get to the plant. they take the people as hostages. so when -- there are little chances that russians are letting our soldiers get out the plan and you get to the ukrainian side. yes, for now, they let some civilians and people to get out. but for our soldiers, it's a little [inaudible] we need the help of our allies in all countries to get out our
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soldiers from -- to the sea, or i don't, know with a special corridor. and without this it will be death for them. >> i'm gonna talk about your allies in just one moment of course. the visit of pelosi, along with the congressional denigration. before i, do either ongoing negotiations currently happening with the russian military to allow the rest of the people trapped inside the steel plant to get out? >> yes. as i know, yes. there are a lot of negotiations about this. but we don't know how it ends. we all hope that there are results. >> let me ask you about speaker pelosi visiting with the congressional delegation meeting with your president, zelenskyy in the capital city of kyiv. what was your reaction and seeing the images coming out of that meeting? and what do you want to hear from them? would you expect will come from
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this meeting? were you hoping will come from this meeting? >> all ukrainians, we are grateful for the help from the american people and our eu allies. without the help, there would be a lot more deaths in our countries. but we need to get all of the promised weapons. all of the [inaudible] to stop putin's -- importantly we, the sanctions. we understand the cost of the sanction. -- ukraine today pays the highest price. we pay with our lives and health. and all of this to stop, and not let the war go around the world. but now we need food sanctions on russia, so that putin's war machine will be stalled and not be able to -- death and destruction in ukraine. and we need sanctions for oil, for gas and for all things from
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what russia -- was to fuel their war machine. >> borodin, we thank you so much. please stay safe. we appreciate. it all, right the white house. fighting back today against criticism surrounding their plan to miss the title 42 immigration policy. dhs secretary mayorkas appearing on multiple sunday morning shows -- as republicans and some democrats are calling out administration over their move to allow asylum seeker to enter the united states through the southern border once again. >> we've been executing on this plan for months. and we are intensifying our efforts. we are adding resources to it. to address the potential for an increase in migration, once title 42 comes to an end. >> let's get into. this -- joining us with more on this. julia, is good to see you this
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afternoon. thank you for joining us on this. listen, we know the gop is also blocking the covid bill over the title 42 back and forth policy. how concerned is the white house about all of this criticism? >> can side enough to make the rounds on the sunday shows this morning. and by the way, for senior homeland security officials to brief lawmakers and staff on the hill. all week about this 20-page plan that's released. to deal with the influx of migrants on the border expected once that administration lifts this trump era pandemic policy title 42 at the border. you see some of what it does on your screen. it enables the border patrol agents to turn away migrants that pose a potential health risk to americans back home. you also mentioned covid relief. and at first, glance those two matters could not see more unrelated. but in this case they are. because republicans suggest some hypocrisy from the administration. by quote unquote ending the pandemic at the border wall requesting $10 million to continue to fight the virus --
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for vaccines, treatments, research. they are demanding a vote on title 40 to codify that policy. and by the, way those moderate frontline democrats, many of them from border states, democratic leadership are hesitant to allow a vote on title 42. because they don't know if they'll be able to defeat that kind of vote, yasmin. >> julie tsirkin for us. thank you for your reporting on. this still, ahead, everybody we have a look ahead at how the u.s. delivers weapons to ukraine and what it's like to transport tons of explosives. >> just try to take off nice and easy and lie nice and easy so you don't have any cargo shifting during the process. >> why the leader of the catholic church is calling congressman the roman marjorie taylor greene a disgrace. we'll be right back. a disgrace we'll be right back. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪
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the church is not doing its job. and it's not adhering to the teachings of christ. and it's not adhering to what the word of god says or is supposed to do. and how we're supposed to live. and what they're doing by saying, oh we have to love these people and take care of these migrants and love one another. this is loving one another. yes, we are supposed to love one another but they're definition of what's love one another means, means destroying our laws. >> gop congresswoman marjorie taylor greene this week slamming the catholic church's support for migrants entering america. and sparking backlash from key leaders including the catholic league president brian donaghue who labeled greene as a quote, loose cannon and a disgrace. green's comments inflammatory are not necessarily surprising. considering her past. they come amid a growing resistance of white questions
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on the right who for the republican parties core constituency. in fear america as they see it, as drifting away from them. and the latest podcast episode, my next two guest broke down the reasons behind this movement. and the lines that were willing to cross to fulfill their dream of a white christian america. >> a white majority feels like they're the biggest victims in america and specifically like you mentioned, this white christian eventually calls when you listen to them and when you watch fox and when you listen to the podcast, we're under attack, there are against us, there are gaps are students and like and the rest of us are like yo, i love to do a freaky friday trade with you. i would love to trade places, it seems like you guys are crushing it. but you know, especially in freezing this poll where people think there is like far more of us that actually exist. like america probably has 35% muslims and everyone's gay in this deep fear of victimhood.
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does a parallel, kristen, with him you know, maybe i'm leading here and correct me if i'm wrong. it seems to me than anytime any marginalized community, but say women, people of color, muslims. just like any progress, it's a zero sum mindset for this group that says, your progress is coming at my expense. >> joining me now are co-host of democracy podcast danielle moody and -- ali. thank you guys for joining us this afternoon, it's great to see you both. i want to pick up, danielle, where watch hodges lived off which is kind of talking about the infiltration of these white evangelicals into the core of the republican party. the core of the non trump movement, it seems. it doesn't seem like it's a recipe for a healthy democracy, to say the least. >> i mean, they don't want to democracy, yasmin, what they want is a theocracy. that is mixed again of the
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kleptocracy which is where we kind of saw under donald trump. you know, their teachings are steeped in misogyny, their teachings are steeped in a hierarchy around whiteness above all else i mean listening to the clippers before of marjorie taylor greene talking about satan. that is a member of congress, right, i think that we forget that this person is a member of congress. we are supposed to have a separation of church and state and you can see how she is being led. and it is not through the christian faith, which is about the teaching of loving and sharing and love thy neighbor, no. they are about putting children in cages which we saw happen under the trump administration. they are about abuse which we saw, at the hands of border patrol, against migrants. that is what they are championing. and it is terrifying. >> -- so you are talking about obviously this idea that when you see a rise for instance
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muslims in this country or you see someone come to power for instance who is black man, former president obama. that there is this need especially coming from the white evangelical movement to say, we need to take back control. we feel threatened. this is coming at the expense of our lives. talk me through that thinking. and as you thought about this, is there any way, i know this is kind of simplifying it, because these people exist. that we can move forward with this? how do we, because this is going to continue, right? >> yeah, so this is part and parcel of the american experiment. there has been a growing group if you will that believes that this country belongs to white christian men and that anytime anyone who's a person of color or black person immigrant of color or woman rises zero sum game in which they will be weaken and threatened. we are trying to replace them, the replacement theory which is now openly spouted on fox news
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on tucker carlson so omit every day comes from white supremacists and neo-nazis circles, yasmin. and so this is nothing new, people think this is a moderate thing. no this goes back to the 50s. this goes back to the 60s. we are seeing what christian ash mills which believes that this country literally is given to white christians by god, right, and their job is to use their power to cleanse and purify this country. to reestablish the kingdom of heaven on earth. so in daniel was saying as a theocracy mix with a kleptocracy, she's absolutely correct. and so when women rise, black people rise, when muslims come, they say oh my god you are trying to replace us, we are weakened. and what's so fascinating, yes men, is that people who have it in power while presumably that they are the real victims. and when you believe that you are the victim, and when you believe that the rest of us are invaders trying to replace you. this is when you rationalize violence. to survive. violence to protect your kids, violence to protect civilization. and so the second part your question, i thought about this
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a lot. how do we engage with these folks? i've said this, i believe that we have lost to third of this country for a lifetime. we've lost a third of them to disinformation. 30%, i've been saying this for years. you look at all the data -- >> you mean forever, like him over? >> 20, 30 years, we've lost them. because if you go talk to them, they literally believe that qanon exists, there is a deep state and then all trump has won the presidency. they don't have horns on their head, they're not evil but we've lost him forever. so this is what i say. the caravan of the majority, that includes all of us, has to move forward. and i went to an all-boys catholic school, i say the following, the caravan has moved forward but the door will always be open. it's up to you to join us. and if not, i gotta move forward because i gotta say this country for my children. and your children. >> so, i'm happy, then we, out that was a hot broth of i was a fox news talking about carlson as well because the new york times probe into his influence when it comes to disinformation across the border. and of course imposing the way a lot of these folks are thinking. and i want to read from this
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piece saying mr. carlson has constructed when maybe the most races show in the history of cable news. he has adopted the rhetorical troves and exotic fixations of white nationalists, who have watched gleefully from the fringes of public life as he popularize their ideas. daniel. >> but here's the thing, yasmin, and this is the problem that i have with the new york times article. is that these people are not from the fringes anymore. because to wash our hearts point earlier, is that we're talking about 30% of our population. and when we're saying that this show, tucker carlson's show, is the most popular show on television. well we're not talking about is the fact that there is a rise in support of white nationalism in this country. instead of just talking about tucker carlson, i'd like to talk about the tens of millions of americans that washes show. i would like to talk about the ways in which he along with fox news is an entire network,
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right, has empowered people to then turned violent like we saw on january 6th. where are they getting this information for spread through? they're getting it through fox. but here's the thing. they are not the fringe. they are now members of congress like marjorie taylor greene. like madison cawthorn. like warren boebert. like matt gates. these people have infiltrated into the mainstream, we saw the line of questioning. with senators during the judge brown jackson confirmation hearing. they're talking about pedophilia, that is the basis of qanon conspiracy theory. that is now mainstream and mainlined to the republican party. so we need to talk about the rise of white supremacy in this country and how it has become mainstream through people like tucker carlsen. >> i gotta say, wajahat, though it, it seems as if or feels as if and i could be completely wrong. the more you fight them, when you talk about the steele becoming a part of the mainstream like marjorie taylor greene.
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the stronger and more united they become. and the less folks that are in leadership positions speak out. >> well that's exactly what's been happening. i -- daniel and i used analogy all the time on our podcast. it's the pena car tuned. where the majority is charlie brown. and when it comes to this increasingly reckless experience republican party and conservative movement there like lucy. and we say okay lucy this time you won't lift the football, will you? and lucy says, sure at the summit with the football. and even every single time she loves the football. and you see every single institution especially our media institutions bend the knee and normalize these individuals. going okay, we're going to have an olive branch, are you are not going to hurt us? no no, we're going to kill. you like okay, here's an olive branch. and so you see this over single time, you see the democratic party doing it, you see moderates doing it, you see other news channels i won't name give lucrative contracts of these people who helped overthrow our democracy in an ongoing coup. and so what i always says you need the majority, every single
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institution to finally recognize him acknowledge that threat that we're against. why kristen ashton was and had a huge footprint in the january 6th insurrection. cory the report that came out of february. listen to marjorie taylor greene, when she says that she's the base, danielle and i on our show always tell people, she is the base, she is the present and future of the party. the qanon deep state conspiracy theory which are national security threats are mainstream talking points. they try to kill mike pence, the most white christian man on earth. liz cheney is now exiled from the republican party. what will they do to the rest of us? pay attention and this is where the institutions have to stop normalizing, stop ending the knee and fight back. >> i feel like everybody should want to listen to this at this point because these two can talk. they can get into it. make sure you tune into democracy's new have south dropping every single thursday, danielle, wajahat, think you both guys. as always, a brilliant ruling conversation. thank you for coming on. after the break, everybody, an exclusive look at what it takes to deliver weapons from the
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will stop russian new advanced in the east of ukraine. >> we are in the cargo hold of a 7:47. it can hold about 42 pallets like these. each of these carrying 72 artillery rounds. we're talking about 3000 rounds in this plane. they're being loaded now. they could be in the hands of ukrainian military in a matter of just a day or two. this is the second mission of -- and -- former military pirate. >> what is it like to fly a military -- full of explosives? >> you obviously know there are explosive down there. >> just moving the airplane from a to b. that's. it >> you try to take off magnesium glenn nice and easy so you don't have any cargo shifting during the process. >> every day unmarked tractor trailer arrive packed with explosives. from animal depots across the country. they line up at dover dubbed the superport for military equipment to ukraine. >> we moved over 7 million
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pounds of material to the ukraine on over 60 missions. >> colonel barry -- come commands the -- that does the dover heavy lifting. >> can you walk us through some of the weapon that we have moved out of here to eastern europe? >> we moved anything from nine millimeter pistols to javelins to stinger missiles. >> those javelins and stingers have been instrumental in taking out russian tanks and planes. it's a fast pace ballet of lethal weapons and a giant mechanized warehouse. >> i see it on the news that, you know they're actually using the equipment that we're sending out. >> when you're the one to help them it just feels good. >> it takes about ten hours to fly to the drop off point in poland. how the weapon than get ukraine is classified for fear of russian attacks. >> are you worried at all that when you fly these things that you could be a target for russia? >> is there a possibility? yes. but you can think about that. >> courtney kube the nbc news, dover air force base. >> thanks to corner qb for that
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reporting. once those arms as courtney was talking about rolled off. the 7:40 sevens as we just saw. where do they go from there? that's the big question. we have richard louis on the big board for us. walking us through the 12 threes of it all. bring us up to speed richard. on this artillery and the strategic priority in this rollout. >> it's very interesting in that reporting with courtney. as we've seen, boots on the. ground -- hence the importance of those shells and artillery making it to the conflict zone. artillery, essential. the u.s. defense secretary emphasized artilleries new importance in this phase of the war at a press conference this week. take a listen. >> what will be decisive in this next fight is long range fires. the president signed a package of $800 million on thursday. on saturday, the first howitzer from that package showed up at
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the -- that is the speed of war that we are operating in. >> all right. those new howitzers, they look like this. they are called m triple seven's. they can fire about nine seconds a new shell. up that's about seven are pm, seven shelves for a minute. they are highly mobile. they are told by trucks to reposition from, for instance this location the picture. they have a range of up to 24 miles as well. a house, or by the way, has the name of sling in german. indeed, it slings 100 pound high explosive projectiles quite rapidly. the pentagon has not given detail, but we do have some pictures of with the shells actually look like. these are three different types that are most commonly used. one shell is called x caliber, right here in the center. it is gps guided, important given civilians are in close proximity to many of these targets. the shell stand about waist
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high. and again, important range that i mentioned. and undisclosed location right, now outside of ukraine, u.s. troops are training ukrainians to use these howitzers. they replace soviet air artillery. shelves for those who are running low, understandably. over half of the 90 howitzers are already totally in ukraine, says the defense department. here is one being loaded in california last week. -- onto an airlift arriving in ukraine in 13 hours or so if it's nonstop. yasmin, howitzers by the, way first used in europe in the 18th century. now crucial today to europe today. >> richard, with all this in mind what is the strategy behind using the artillery? >> i mean, one level, deeper on that very topical artillery. the strategy is with sold this -- it's called counter battery fire. both sides trying to locate and destroy each other's artillery
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before they can pack up and move. it's a game of what might be called chess and chicken mixed together the winner gains ground advantage over time. and with better artillery, ukraine will not be able to better advance their counteroffensive. this is what might be like in the battlefield. right now you have howitzers on the russian side. the fire in ukraine, indiscriminately. but what happens is, this new artillery -- this is what it might look like when you can see now that you will have this. ukrainian howitzers, that ukrainian house circumvent fire on to the russian forces. they then need to move. as they are moving, that's when the ukrainian offensive capability comes into play. defensively, that's better for them overall. and so this is why it's so important when we see that all of these howitzers are being moved to the ukrainian conflict
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zone, yasmin. and this may give some advantages to the ukrainians down. give someall right >> richard . us good to see this afternoon. we appreciate. up next everybody. with the january six committee will be looking for in the thousands of pages of trump related emails. it is getting from a key member by the way of the effort to overturn the 2020 election. we will be right back. 2020 eleconti we will be right back. we will be right back. ♪ there's heather on the hedges ♪ ♪ and kenny on the koi ♪ ♪ and your truck's been demolished by the peterson boy ♪ ♪ yes -- ♪ wait, what was that? timber... [ sighs heavily ] when owning a small business gets real, progressive helps protect what you've built with affordable coverage. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. progressive helps protect what you've built this dad and daughter were driving when they got a crack in their windshield. [smash]
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been following a developing story throughout the hour of course the memorial service of the former vice president walter mondale happening right now. in minneapolis, lisa -- amy klobuchar is wrapping up her marks at that memorial service. that vice president passing away a year ago in april of 2021. but because of covid restrictions that were in place at the time, the memorial service have been delayed up until now. and you have many people attending this memorial service today on this sunday afternoon in minneapolis, minnesota. and where awaiting any moment now the president united states, president biden, who just saw there on your screens to begin speaking and paying tribute to the former vice president of the united states. under president jimmy carter. he was also, by the, way the 1984 democratic presidential nominee. let's take a little bit of a listen to senator amy klobuchar there as she pastry to the former vice president. >> as walter mondale once wrote,
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our founders believed that america needs leaders who transcend the politics of the moment and pursue the nation's long term. aspirations. leaders who will take care of the constitution understanding that they are only custodians of an ideal. that describes of course walter mondale. but that also describes his good friend, joe biden. president biden served with walter mondale in the senate. win then candidate obama asked joe biden to be his vice president in this very state. the first call joe biden made was to fritz. he relied on him. and on fritz's last day on earth, our president was there on the phone with him.
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mister president -- [applause] mister president, vice president mondale loved you. he believed in you. he trusted you with our country's future. and he is looking down from the heavens today, smiling, so proud. you are here and his beloved state of minnesota. friends, it is now my honor to introduce to you, the president of the united states, joe biden. [applause] >> thank you.
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thank you, amy. but france is really saying looking down at us is, joe, hide your irish catholic enthusiasm a little bit and be more norwegian. generous introduction. you know, i got a chance to talk to the family a little bit earlier. and trying to console them, and i got emotional. but as my grandfather vinnie would say that's the irish of it. you know, i served with for it's a long time. he became good and close
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friend. i was a kid when i got elected, i wasn't -- only 29 years old. and because everything is based on seniority in the senate, i got to hang out with folks like fritz and hubert long before we'd ordinarily at my age. because by the time i was there a second term, i was chairman of some major committees. in so, i'm going to talk more today about fritz and what he pretend didn't exist but fritz's sense of empathy. fritz had a special way about him. that i don't think he would talk about, i could be wrong,
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but i never heard him talk about it. there was a question that for its famously asked staffers who came to work for him. he'd say, on the breakfast plate, what's the difference between the eggs and the bacon? senator smith and klobuchar know the answer. by supplying the eggs, the chicken made a contribution. the hawk was fully committed. [applause] it always surprise fritz -- delaware. my state. has a in the del mar peninsula a five billion dollar industry, chickens. a lot of chickens, hell of a lot more chickens and people. and it's the biggest industry. but fritz was always committed. not merely to the work of his
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lifetime, which all of you are familiar with. most people know most of all everybody's voice to know him in the state. reverend heart anderson, members of congress, our military, distinguished guests. most of all the mondale family. ted, william, rebecca, jim. all the grandchildren, louis, amanda, barrett, charlotte, because sandra, daniel. and all the dear friends the family that are here as well. because he always talked about you wallace family. i'm moved to be with you here today as an honor, one of the great giants in american history. and that's not hyperbole. fritz was a giant. in american political history. you know, a great american who
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-- but he also had a lot of great americans right about him and write about things related to him without even knowing. great american novelist edith worden wrote, there are two ways of spreading light. to be a candle or the mirror that reflects it. fritz was both the candle in the mirror, in my view. candles spreading a light and the mirror reflecting it. and today, i speak of a friend of five decades, about that light, light of friendship and what it meant to me personally and my family. fritz and i first met, one of the darkest moments of my life. i had not intended to run for the united states senate. i was involved, my state, great shame was segregated by law. eighth largest black population america, percentage population
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in delaware. i got involved in politics indirectly by getting involved in the civil rights movements as a kid. being the only white employee in east side of wilmington area called the bucket. for years. and i was asked by a group of senior democrats, would i, i was a young lawyer when i came back from law school. and we were the only city in america occupied by the national guard for ten months. with every corner being occupied by national guard member who drawn bayonet. because of dr. king's assassination and the rise that took place in my home state. and i had a job with one of the oldest law firms and state. a white shoe as used to call them law firm. and after being home for six months, i couldn't do it anymore and i left and tried to
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find a job as appealing to thunder. to represent the people i used to work with as a kid in high school and college. and so i came to the united states senate with a passion to do something about civil rights. and when i was elected, i ran initially for the group, with a group i joined a group of senior members of the united states of delaware. democratic establishment. to reform the democratic party because we were more southern democratic party than a northeastern democratic party. we used to be able to be joined the southern governors conference from the atlantic conference. democratic governors joined the southern governors conference. but i couldn't bring myself to be a republican even there were more progressive because it pressured nixon. when i registered. but i was asked to head up a
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committee of younger people to try to get someone to run for the united states senate. against the guy who was a decent guy actually. little too conservative but decent guy. one thing led to another and i ended up being asked to run for the senate i had no intention of running for the senate. but two years earlier i had been elected to the county council. and delaware is like 1 million sure illinois. one county has 60% the states population. so the council person i represented a district seven times as large the state represented in three times as large as the state senator. and i ran and won, iran only to be a good soldier to try to get out democrats voting. and i wasn't supposed to win the only reason iran was i was certain i wasn't going to win
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because i didn't want to be a county counselor. i was just setting up a law firm as a young senator. i was a young man, i should say. and so what happened was, i won in the district, it was like 55, 56% republican no democrat had ever won. republican saw something in me i didn't see, they saw someone who may want to go on and run for office beyond that. so they reapportioned me from a four-year term to a two-year term into a 65% district. i was put in the position of upper out. and a group of senior members of former governor former united states senator a former congressman and the chief justice of the retired chief justice of the supreme court whose family had more senators than any family in american history. and they came to me and offered a convention. i'll never forget it, i was classical was. it was a break in the convention in delaware, i was
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in a little blue motel nearby. go back and change with the younger people i would with i had my own room. you know the typical kind of drive up to the front door, to headboard snails of the wall, destiny also the other wall and an eight by ten bathroom. so i was shaving and i had my towel around, just got of the shower and shaving and this banging at the door. and i, guy named bob cunningham who was, i said all, right open the door. and there was a former two term governor, name edward adam carver. former congressman, named harrison. and the state chairman, and a former chief justice. enough standing in a towel shaving by -- and the rest of me stark make it. and i said, we want to talk to joe. so i said will come on and gentlemen, iran into the bathroom, take off the shaving
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cream hoping i could find something to put on, i had nothing to put on. so i came back out and i leaned against that desk with a towel around, it's a gentleman. and they said show we just had dinner. we think you should run for the senate. and i said but, the chief justice, former chief justice said that and i said, sir i said i'm not old enough. he said joe you obviously didn't do very well the constitutional law. i said what did i do now. and he said, you only have to be 30 to be sworn in. they can elect you whenever you want, you'll be 30 17 days later. well iran and tim the shock and surprise of everybody i won. by staggering 3100 votes. but here's the point. i showed up on december 18th to hire staff.
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hadn't been sworn in yet. and what happened was that i had gotten a phone call that day from my fire department. in delaware. and they put a poor young woman on the phone who said you gotta come home, there's been an accident. and she went on to tell me the poor kid had to tell me, there was an accident and i said what happened. she said your wife and daughter are dead and your two boys may not make it. india no, the last thing i wanted to do was go to the united states senate after that. we had elected a governor, a democrat, he could appoint a democrat. and i had my brother talking to him about who he to point. but there was fritz and joan. doug they embrace me, contacted
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me. it's not just being nice, but bringing me in. they came to the hospital to see my boys. they help me find my purpose. in a sea of darkness and pain. fritz along with mike mansfield and teddy kennedy in a few others who all came to see me and said, just comes six months. you can go home after that, we need you. 58 democrats, they didn't need me for a damn thing. no seriously. i was so, such a rookie i thought maybe the need me. to organize. and he said, then you can leave. and i had to show up every tuesday, at 3:00, in the senate chamber. to get an assignment from senator mansfield. many times fritz would walk me
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over. and i thought all freshman got assignments. i didn't know, nobody gets an assignment in the senate. wasn't until about five months, three months in that i realized, i was a case. but they kept me engaged. they help me get up when it was easy to give up. my life changed again five years later. no man deserves one great love in his life, let alone two. but i met and married jill biden. had to ask her five times. crew. but being a spouse of a senator who was relatively well known because of the celebrity of how i got there by accident. and inheriting to beautiful young boys wasn't easy. once again, fritz and joan were
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there. where there you spring the light journals on the first people to reach out to jail. and it meant the world to us. it meant the world. you just heard from my friend john beecher. fritz was a master legislator who shone a light on those who needed it most. the desire to lift up either stem from his youth. from his service is a corporal in the u.s. army in those early days organizing hubert humphrey. and parts of minnesota the democrats and win. fritz learned early the power of bringing people together. and i know fritz, for fritz, no moment was brighter. and then when he joined forces because i was with him. i was just a bit player with an african american senator from massachusetts senator, edward brook. and i passed the fair housing act. i was in the same side the same
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side of the chamber in the back row fritz was. i remember the look on his face, literally remember the look on his face. open up neighborhoods. diminished by segregation for so long. when the act passedso long. when he said, quote, the world's justice and fairness will mean more to our fellow americans -- will never mean more to our fellow americans than they do today. that was for its. spreading light the light of our country. -- but never truly knew its warmth. every stage of our life and every inflection point fritz and joan i apologize and saying -- in the point of personal privilege here. but they were there. for jill, and me and my family. not on a political level but on
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