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good evening, and welcome to politicsnation. tonight's lead until the fight is done. right now, it looks like our leaders are preparing for a longer haul than many may have hoped. as russia's war in ukraine
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appears to have bogged down into a protracted conflict. fighting intensified in the country's east. russian missile strikes and shells continuing to fall on ukrainian cities including the capital of kyiv. where the first u.s. congressional delegation to visit ukraine, met secretly with president zelenskyy in kyiv. this weekend. the group's leader our speaker nancy pelosi, with strong words for russia and its president putin. >> do not be bullied by bullies. if they are making threats, you can not back down. that is my view of it. we are there for the fight. and we cannot fold to a bully.
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>> the democrats will -- comes as congress considers president biden's request for 33 billion dollars in aid to ukraine. and russia suggests that shipments of western weapons streaming into ukraine are fair game for its military. the latest on russia's more that's coming up. and later, the emotional true story of our nation's first black secret service agent pardoned last week by president biden, after his conviction nearly 60 years ago for a crime he maintains he was framed for. it's a story you won't see anywhere else, but here on politicsnation. that is later. but we begin in ukraine. joining me now is nbc's cal perry. he is in kyiv, ukraine. carol, tell us about speaker pelosi's visit earlier today.
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>> good afternoon, rev. this is the highest political visit we've seen from the united states since the world began. -- i am told this morning, and that's where we saw a video released. the video was released by the ukrainians presidents office. they waited until speaker pelosi, representative shifts, and others were back in poland. that's where they then gave the press conference. we now have a bit of a read out of that meeting, again, provided by the ukrainian president's office. you see video that was released as this morning of this weekend visit. pelosi on the right there. obviously, the ukrainian president standing alongside her. in this readout, we learned that the meeting was four hours long. it focused on not just military aid, coming from the united states to the front here in ukraine, specifically the eastern front we've been talking so much about. but also had to give more sanctions in impact on russia. and how to tweak those sanctions, and even brought in. them look this comes on the backdrop of that continued fighting in the east.
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and an evacuation finally of some civilians from mariupol. where we have seen some of the heaviest fighting, where we have the steel plant that we know civilians are centering underneath. evacuation was a priority. not just for the visit you see on the screen in front of you but the visit from the secretary general earlier in the week. 100 of civilians evacuated from the area in around mariupol, where we saw the heavy fighting. again, heavy fighting across the east, rev. fighting again, heavy fig hting acrossand so much of the n from pelosi's visit was about the long range, artillery pieces. the howitzers, which the u.s. have supplied. we understand that more than half of those howitzers are on the ground now and being used in the eastern part of the country. >> all right, thank you nbc's cal perry, reporting from ukraine. joining me now is congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. democrat of florida. congresswoman, thank you for joining us tonight. the democratic --
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led by speaker pelosi just left ukraine. after meeting with president zelenskyy in kyiv. the secret visit was the first bow u.s. congressional delegation since this war began. coming on the heels of president biden's request to congress for 33 billion dollars in aid to ukraine. escalating rhetoric between the kremlin and the west, and assessment suggesting the war may become more protracted -- and more protracted conflict. does this visit mean that members of congress expect this war to end door, if not expand? >> reverend al, thank you for the opportunity to join you this evening. what i think this visit, at of the highest rank a list -- official so far means is that, we are demonstrating the full
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weight of the united states government is behind president zelenskyy and the people of ukraine. and against any further encouragement by russia. and that this, whether it is a shorter term or longer term effort to push russia back, out of ukraine, that we are with them for the long haul. it's an important message that she sent for a delegation today. >> congresswoman, let me go to this. we are waiting for more specifics on these public hearings announced for june by the house select committee investigating the events of january 6th, including, of course, the names of the other republican lawmakers -- that the committee wish to speak to, in addition to your colleagues, kevin mccarthy, jim, jordan and scott perry. as former chairman of the democratic national committee, watching this investigation accelerate while midterm elections loom, do you think
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these explosive revelations that have been alluded to by committee members, if they are as explosive as your colleague jamie raskin says they will be? will they have the potential to drive democratic turnout, similar to the drive to oust president trump two years ago? and if they are damning enough, does that sway republican voters in any substantial way? >> reverend al, i think we are going to see in june, when the eight hearings that are held by the january six collect -- select committee demonstrate to the world, the depth of the coordination and the disturbing determination from the top of the trump administration all the way down, through many, layers to keep him in office and overturn the results of a legitimate election, are not going to only show a contrast between joe biden and
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congressional democrats who helped literally, pull our economy out of a ditch. help me make sure we could be back the covid-19 pandemic, and that fought to make sure, through investments in infrastructure, that we can get america back on their feet. the contrast between the absolutely absent, empty, zero record agenda of the republicans. only focused on advancing the big lie. reputhe big lies there let miss. as that the republican agenda. hook, line and sinker. if you don't adhere to it as a republican, we will be able to clearly show in the congressional district across this country, the contrast and choice the voters have. and that's why think we're gonna do well and of. >> your home state, congresswoman, and its electoral picture altered in just a few weeks by governor ron desantis and the gop lawmakers. between desantis signing the only election police force in the nation into law, last month
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-- and then days later signing off on an electoral map that -- two black democrats, while handing republicans a massive advantage in florida going into november. looking two years out, 2024, and desantis expected to pursue the white house, i can't help but wonder if you see a longer endgame in what is happening in florida. and a template for things to come from other red governors of states -- would you respond? >> ron desantis, republican and game is between the election police that he established in the state of florida, voter suppression laws in florida that he continues to pursue, and states across the country have as well. and the elimination of
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congressman lawson in congress win -- districts, it makes it very clear that republicans do not want black voters to vote. and they don't want black representation in congress. there's just no other way to define and explain these tactics. because they know that of black voters vote, if black voters are represented, then the agenda that we have advanced. and that voters have really fully embraced to make sure that we can have extended access to health care -- investing in our nation's infrastructure creating jobs. all of the things that democrats are under president biden have been able to succeed at that would all be blocked by republicans in favor of their big lie. their culture war agenda. and at the end of the day the road to achieving that i know republicans believe is eliminating black
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representation and preventing people of color from voting. >> before i lose you. in addition to those other bills that i mention one of the -- political measures enacted by the governor last month it's his new law banning the teaching of critical race theory in florida's primary education -- despite the fact that it is not actually being taught in florida's primary schools. for that reason i cannot interpret the law is anything but a show of solidarity with white conservatives that simply do not want their children to understand our actual history. -- what is your take, congresswoman? briefly. >> let's be very clear. the stock -- act with your front two is just about critical race theory. it's deeper than. that it prevents corporations from being able to have training programs that help their employees understand one another. it bans instruction on civil
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rights. and teaching children in the state of florida the true history of slavery. and the fight for civil and human rights. because they want to whitewash our history. and they want to make this a white oriented, white supremacists oriented society. that is exactly what is intended here. and we need to make sure we are turning out the polls to stop them. >> congresswoman, debbie wasserman schultz, thank you for being with us. just ahead standing up against bullies doesn't stop integrates cool. this week's rise up takes us back to the classroom. and later, the first black super -- secret service agent to serve on presidential detail during his politicsnation, we'll talk about his recent -- from president biden. but first, my colleague richard louis with today's -- >> rev a very good sunday. some of the stories we're watching for you right now,
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there's a nationwide search for a corrections officer and a capital murder suspect. they vanished together from an alabama jail, friday morning. deputy vicky white transporting inmate casey white from a jail to a courthouse friday morning. the two, by the, way that they have the same last, name not related. it was for a mental health evaluation appointment that did not actually exist. vicky white's patrol car was found abandoned in the nearby shopping center. investigator now working to determine if the officer assisted in may, or if she was taken against her well. as the u.s. closes in on 1 million covid deaths, -- variants of the deadly virus continue to spread. daily cases in riverside, california are now up 76% after the coachella music festival brought tens of thousands people to the area over the past two weekends. the festival did not require masks, proof of vaccination, or a recent negative covid test. president joe biden was among dignitaries at the memorial
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service today for former vice president, walter mondale, it happened in minneapolis. mondale was active in politics for nearly 50 years. he served as president carter's vp. he also spent two terms in the senate, and with a democratic -- in 1980. four he passed away last month at the age of 83 -- more a politicsnation with reverend al sharpton after this break. ion with reverend al sharpton after thi break. break. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. ♪ we could walk forever ♪ ( ♪♪ ) ♪ walking on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ ♪ some ♪ ♪ may say ♪ ♪ i'm wishing my days away ♪
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to pay my respects to a group of professionals whose jobs have always been both highly essential, and extremely challenging. and in recent years their work has been more valuable and difficult than ever before. i am talking about teachers. the people who instructing care for our children. and in some cases, leave
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impression that last a lifetime. a few years ago i had the pleasant surprise of running into my history teacher mr. elliott sallow. more than four decades after my last class with him at children high school in brooklyn. teachers like him or unsung heroes who rarely get a lot of fame or attention. but lately have found themselves in the crosshairs of a republican cultural war. all of a sudden it seems as though subjects like history and science have become just another battleground for political debate. it is true that topics such as race and sexuality are sensitive to discuss especially with young people. but that is why teachers ditch deserve our support and not our scorn. the washington post recently ran a troubling report of the rise of show social media accounts called lips of tiktok who scours the internet for
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videos of teachers supposedly running afoul of conservative values. and then targets them for harassment from the right-wing media. outrage machine that they built. law enforcement and school boards have been sounding the alarm about the danger of these types of accounts. but so far lid's of tiktok just keeps on getting more popular and influential. instead of making teachers jobs harder how about rising up to support legislation that would make their lives easier? we could lessen the financial burden for education -- by forgiving their student loans right now. president biden is considering -- thousands of dollars, federal loan borrowers, this could mean a lot to our teachers who have often had to get a fair amount of secondary education for job
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the paid far less than other industries. and while we are at it we could boost teachers wages and increase funding for school resources. some teachers don't have to go into their own pocket to pay for school supplies. there aren't many jobs where your work lives on many decades later. but we all can remember a teacher or two who help mold and shape us into the person we are today. so next time you see a teacher thank them. and ask what you can do to assist them. they have already sacrificed so much to help us. we will be right back. we will be right back. we will be right back. we all have heroes in our lives. someone who cares about other people and gives of themselves.
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let's dive into a few topics with my political panel. joining me now is brie maxwell, democratic strategist and principle of --
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and ceo of indigo consulting. and michael still, a political analyst and former rnc chairman. michael, this coming tuesday ohio will hold a senate primary. it's a tight race for republicans between donald trump's pick j.d. vance state treasurer john's mental. and moderate republican matt dolan is having a last-minute surge. trump's influence will be brought to the test during the primary. to see if he is actually a kingmaker when selecting candidates. this race has also shown how contenders like dolan are willing to go against the grain. and carl out trump instead of bowing down to him. what is your take on this particular senate primary? >> that last point rev, is an important one. because dolan, unlike what we
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saw in the unction race for governor of virginia, is actually leaning a little bit into the trump narrative. making it very clear that he is not going to play that game. what's interesting is that, to your point, he has the gun to show some energy, some growth in the polling. j.d. vance also had that growth as well. and so it makes this race not just competitive from the numbers, but really competitive from where the republican base will ally itself. not just that typical base that shows up, reverend, but more importantly, whether or not they are able to pull out voters who typically don't play in primary elections. -- always have the struggle with getting the rank and file republicans and democrats to show up outside of the more traditional conservative and progressive or left voters. this will be a real test to see if that effort is able to
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materialize in a -- way that will give, you know, the non trump candidate a leg up. >> brie, you know homeland security for secretary, alejandro mayorkas said earlier, that his agency is preparing for as many as 18,000 migrants daily, after lifting the title 42 covid restrictions at the end of may. now, senate republicans -- are threatening to block other democratic priorities such a 33 billion dollars of ukrainian aid. and ten billion dollars of covid relief. if the white house does not best -- back off of his plan to end title 42. democrats themselves are split over whether to end the trump era restrictions. how do you think this dispute gets result? >> well, we all know that this was a trump administration --
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so we can make sure migrants and immigrants were coming to this country. and also, the cdc and other health officials is saying this is no longer needed. many stated that this was no longer needed in the first place. -- i believe biden's administration bigs issue will be the courts. the courts just slowly start rolling back these policies to make sure they are legal pathways for migrants to be able to come to this country. we'll have an effect on the midterms? yes. but only have an effect in certain districts. >> brie, let's talk about president biden's poll numbers. the washington post at abc news show the president's approval rating is up 5% from february 42%. his economic approval rating also went up slightly. 37% to 38. what is your gauge on how well the president is doing? well, the good news is his points are slowly coming up. what this does mean is that the biden administration and democrats are slowly working on ways to restore the trust, and
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faith back into the american people for the democrats and the policies. i think we're going into the midterms, organist the how much faith and trust the americans half with biden and the administration going forward. america is happy with how he is handling the covid-19. a lot of us are upset and frustrated because they're still hurting with inflation and their pocketbooks are hurting. we will have to wait and see with the midterms. >> michael, donald trump will be in nebraska tonight. he is holding a rally for his longtime friend, charles herbster, who is running to become the republican nominee for governor. this comes as the new york times reports herbster is being accused of groping or second groping in a 2019 republican fund-raiser. he denies both allegations. trump is distancing himself from this candidate. he has since doubled down on his support. how damaging are these
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accusations for herbster? >> probably not the damaging at all. in fact, it's probably keeping with the brand. but we are seeing now is the republican party, at large, and certainly larger elements of the base don't factor those things in. it doesn't matter that you've been alleged to have relations with people outside of your spouse or groping individuals or, even, borderline pedophilia. we've seen this goes back to the 2018 cycle. these issues are less and less important to that base. i think partly because there has not been a cohesive counter narrative played up. as we see, the right is going after the left on things related to cultural issues, you do not see that counter punch from the left saying, okay, i
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know we are saying about me, but what about this laundry list. the cawthorn narrative alone should have been a huge political fodder for the left. and yet, most of the damage is being inflicted by fellow republicans, who are trying to do the heisman with this guy. -- >> you're talking about when he accused many of engaging in drugs and origins and alike? and the left didn't really chime and at all? other republicans did? >> didn't chime in. we had the pictorial last week with him in women's lingerie. you know, i don't know how much of a gift can be handed to the left politically to try to create this wedge in the culture issues. it is clear, the republicans are up to their eyeballs in a cultural narrative that stands as a lie to their rhetoric. >> if they had a -- the so-called squad, there was
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a man and women's lingerie, i'm sure we would be seeing it in high rotation. you're right about that. briefing, white house correspondents dinner was held last night. i was there, amongst others. it was the first dinner after a two-year hiatus. president biden and first lady jill biden was there. this marks the first time a sitting president will have been at the event since barack obama in 2016. here's what if he had to say last night. >> the free press is not the enemy of the people. far from it. the truth matters. american democracy is not a reality show. it's not a reality show. it's reality, itself. >> what was the significance of last night's dinner after the controversy of the trump years and the challenges of the pandemic? >> well, the significance of the dinner was basically to
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restore faith and trust back in the american people. also, with his poll numbers being low, to get in front of the people and let them know, look, i'm doing everything i can to get the country back to where we were. let's get back to the glory days. we know that the biden administration had to pick up the pieces that were falling from the trump administration. i think what he was able to do, which is basically make some americans happy and get us back to where we need to be. >> brittani maxwell and michael steele, thank you for being with us. after the break, we will talk with royal century kitchens chef, jose andre, about where things stand in ukraine right now and how you can get behind the scenes look at his organizations work. at his organizations work organizations work ♪ breeze driftin' on by ♪ ♪ you know how i feel ♪ copd may have gotten you here,
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russian government launched a full scale invasion of ukraine. this has resulted in 66 days of destruction, devastation and displacement for many. however, there are heroes in this fight. one of them being the nonprofit world central kitchen, whose efforts have helped serve over 16 million fresh and hot meals. 8 million pounds of food, all going to displaced ukrainians
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across over 110 cities and eight different countries in the region. joining me now is someone i can call my friend, the founder of world central kitchen, chef jose andrés. andres, thank you for joining me this evening. chef, since you when i last spoke on the show at the end of march, there have been devastating horrors in this war. ukrainian refugee, displacement numbers have grown almost 5.5 million according to the united nations commission for refugees. you have personally made your way over to those areas to physically deliver hot meals with thousands of kilograms worth of food, ready for ukrainians to consume. what is your number one challenge when you supply 300,000 meals to refugees per day over eight different countries? what's your number one challenge? >> obviously, everybody is
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going to -- its food. let me say, one thing very clear, the ukrainian people, the government, they've been doing an amazing job. at the same time, third offending their country, making sure that the rest of the people are taken care of. while you may say that our country at war, food may not be readily available -- food is flowing all across ukraine. obviously there are challenges. right now, as for the russians, they've been hitting a lot of fuel deports. gas has become hard to get, even in the capital like kyiv. that will be a challenge, how our kitchen overcomes the challenge so we don't have to -- we can bring fuel so our teams can have enough fuel to reach every place. let me tell you one thing,
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obviously, in the cities and towns north of kyiv, and other areas that were under russian power, as those areas in cities were being cleared, and ukrainian government was we're cleaning the food hall of those places, the biggest challenge is that because there is a war and -- even if we reclaim these areas, it's not easy access to electricity. the lines are down. it's not easy access to a gas. people, even if they have food, they cannot cook. those will be very basic challenges that you see during a hurricane. but it is compacted by a war who -- that is still happening. people are sometimes afraid to go out of their homes because they have been under a russian invader that murders elderly. they will be shot in the back by the simple thing of going
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outside to feed their children. >> the danger alone. and on thursday you made a plea for congress in the entrepreneurial sector to help you with humanitarian aid for the world, including ukraine. you said quote, we need to respond with urgency. how can lawmakers and entrepreneurs ideally respond to your call for action? >> obviously the united states is the richest country in the world. it's playing a big role. we saw how the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, and president zelenskyy, with all the members of congress like mcgovern and all. the support of the american government is essential, it cannot only be the united states. the whole of europe, all the democracies of the world, they need to be supporting ukraine. obviously, we can talk about difference and -- on the humanitarian side, we need to make sure that the united states is next to the ukrainian people, making sure
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that -- things like water, food, medicine, etc can be flowing freely across ukraine so we don't get into a bigger problem. it's good that president biden is working with ukraine. i hope that this will be seen in a bipartisan way, where republicans alike and democrats will support the initiatives that president biden is taking to make sure that ukraine will be okay with all the things they need to take care of all the ukrainians. you mentioned over 5 million people that are refugees, we cannot forget that those inside ukraine are over five, six, maybe 7 million at this point -- people that are in ukraine but they are displaced. cities like odessa, places like kyiv, places like love beef -- all the places. for having a huge it impact of
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displaced people that's putting extra pressure on those cities and communities. we need to keep giving support that those cities need. >> i'm out of time, but finally, here's a subject of national geographic's new documentary, we feed people. the mayor this thursday in washington d.c.. it will stream on disney+ later this month. it is directed by oscar winning director, ron howard. he followed you around to highlight your nonprofit, world central kitchen's, incredible work from feeding those around the world for several years. very briefly, what feels your passion for your work? you got a big shout out at the correspondents dinner at the white house from trevor noah. i was proud to know you. >> i'm proud to know you to. you and i -- the rest of the team.
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we've been working together in a communities. it's what we're doing right now in the ukraine. more than 70 million meals served, over 300,000 meals a day. -- 10 million pounds of food transported from poland and other countries into ukraine. more than 400 restaurants, we have thousands of volunteers -- were more than 100 -- sometimes, reverend, big problems have very simple solutions. we're not trying to solve every problem. but food and water, we know. sometimes the big problems are solved one plate of food at a time. we're gonna be nice to the ukrainian people. they're fighting for freedom, and democracy, not only on their behalf but on behalf of all of us. the rest of the democracies of the world, we need to be next to them. >> chef jose andriy, i'll see you in harlem, new york on wednesday for a panel
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discussion joined by director ron howard about this important film. we feed people! thank you again to another emotionally story from this week. president biden made his first use of his clemency power, pardoning 78 people among them, 87 year old abraham bolden who, in 1961 the came the first black secret service agent assigned to protect a sitting president. when john f. kennedy personally requested his service. bolden says the racism he encountered on the job made him a target, he complained about the lack of security around president kennedy. in 1964, he was convicted of bribery, serving three years in federal prison. maintaining his innocence for the last 60 years. he joins me now, mr. abraham bolden. swiss with him, sharice
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williams, the attorney who applied for clemency on his behalf. mr. poland, it's an honor to have you with us tonight. before i get into the details of your harrowing and inspiring story, i know our audience would like to hear more about how you first joined the secret service as a black man in 1961, and wet blow my mind -- what's with my mind is that president kennedy actually personally asked you to join his detail. can you briefly tell us how this came about? i have been a big to tech to [inaudible] -- i went into the state police, where i spent four years. during that time president kennedy came and i was impressed about one of the speeches he made at the courthouse. i joined the secret service.
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october 30, 1960, under president eisenhower. when president kennedy came to chicago, where i was stationed as a new secret service agent, the special agent in charge tried to have me -- and put me down by the washroom where all the other agents were in the ball room. the president was gonna speak there. where, as fate would have it, the first thing the president wanted to do was use the washroom. that's where i stood, two doors down from the ballroom. the president watched up to me, stopped in front of me, and asked me if i'm a secret service agent or if i'm one of -- i said i'm a secret servant agent mister president. he smiled and said -- i never will forget his smile. he asked me, he said, --
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i want you on the presidential detail in washington d.c.. -- i said not to my knowledge, mister president. he said would you like to be referred? i said yes, mister president. >> wow, let me go into -- you maintain that you are innocent of the crime of which you were convicted. allegedly selling -- the charge coming after you had expressed your concern about the behaviors of secret service agents, and what you felt was a lack of a security around the. president he went through two trials, the first ending in a hung jury. the second, key witnesses admitted that they denied the prosecutor's request. you never gave up insisting on your innocence. from what i read, you credit your late wife with helping you through that time, encouraging you to keep fighting and through the charges.
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do i have all that right? >> you've got that perfect, you have that perfect. my family stood by me 100%. it was people like sharice williams over here, who helped me file for the pardon that was granted by president biden. she stood behind me and people on facebook. one thing i would like to say, if i could, i really appreciate the job that you are doing. you are out there making a big sacrifice. i think that you should be appreciated. >> thank you for that. let me go to attorney williams. i know our audience would like to know, how does it feel to get that call last weekend after so many years? so many petitions to other presidents, going back to
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richard nixon. what went through your mind, attorney, when you heard the pardon by president biden of your client who went through the first black -- and was suffered, what he said, was being set up. finally you are able to be there to get the pardon. what went through your mind? >> i must say, it was very humbling. it was very humbling and so deserved. i actually worked alongside attorney barbara klein. it was -- she was the first to call me and notify me. she got the call. it was very humbling. well deserved, and i could not imagine a better person to receive this. it was a pressure to work with him. an absolute pleasure. >> i have to go.
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