as the suspect approached. >> if it wasn't for his clumsiness and dave prowess, something else could have happened. >> isaiah lee was bloody and bruised before being booked on assault with a deadly weapon. he was carrying this replica gun with a bayonet style blade. he suffered from mental health issues and has been in and out of homeless shelters. >> was that will smith? >> industry professionals say at tack know shows the need to protect performers. >> it is like a secret service kind of type of awareness you need to have because we've seen how quickly things could escalate and get to the stage. >> the company that managed the hollywood bowl saying in a statement the safety of our artists and visitors an staff is our top priority. netflix saying we strongly

defend the right of standup comedians to perform on stage without fear of violence. confrontations like this 2018 incident at a comedy club in south carolina have become more common in recent years according to club openers like tehran who said the shares connections need to be preserved. >> this is a safe space for the comedians but for the audience and it means everything for this to remain a safe space. >> gadi schwartz reporting for us. chap pele said the perform an at hollywood bowl were epic and record breaking and refused to allow the incident overshadow the magic of this historic moment. it was a big bill that night including with chris rock on bill. and as you mentioned yesterday on the show, after this truly horrifying moment, first of all the guy comes up with what looks like a gun. there is no reason to believe it is not an actual gun. and then it has a knife that could shoot out the front of it,

a bayonet style gun i guess it is. but chris rock comes out from back stage to a little levity and said was that will smith. obviously a reference to the incidence at the oscars. >> yeah, and, you know, chappell did a great job laughing it off and telling jokes about it and telling the audience to relax and calm down and everything was fine but extraordinary dangerous. and a comedian or a standup comic standing up on stage, they are exposed and that obviously is the fear of so many people that go out on stage and perform like that. and yesterday, mika, we saw again yet another example and as we saw in the package, yet another example of a standup comic being attacked on stage. it is getting more dangerous. whether you're a stand-up comic, whether your a flight attendant working a tough job, when you're working in target and you have

people coming in and trashing displays for masks. it is really gotten out of control out there. people, you know, they need to show a little bit of common courtesy for their fellow americans. >> it would be nice. it is just past the top of the hour. the fourth hour here on "morning joe." 6:00 a.m. on the west coast and 9:00 a.m. here in the east. we have a lot to get to this hour. president biden comes out swinging with his midterm message painting the trump wing of the republican party as extremists with a, quote, ultra maga agenda. also ahead, we'll have the latest from ukraine. where a "new york times" report details that the u.s. had a provided intelligences that allowed ukrainians to target and kill many russian generals. plus concerns that vladimir putin may use russia's victory day on monday to declare an official state of war and

announce mass mobilizations against ukraine. but we start with more on the fallout from the supreme court and that leaked draft opinion that would overturn roe v. wade. the white house is promising to do everything it can to protect abortion rights but the reality is the administration itself has very few options if roe is in fact struck down. according to "the washington post," the officials have been debating executive and regulatory actions to help women access safe abortions. however, they also recognize that almost anything they try to do will be challenged in court. on capitol hill, senate democrats are pushing new legislation that would protect abortion rights despite the fact that they don't have enough support to get a measure passed. even so, senate majority leader chuck schumer wants a vote on the floor so every single american could see where every

single senator stands on protecting a women's right to choose. democrats would have to vote to eliminate the filibuster in order to pass abortion protections with a simple majority. but senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema remain opposed to such a move. willie? >> and republicans are circulating a new set of talking points regarding abortion that are reflective of some comments we heard yesterday trying to head off democratic criticism as those midterm elections draw closer. and nrc polling memo suggests republicans could be, quote, compassionate consensus builders on abortion policy. that is the theme they're going with. compassionate on abortion policy. it argues that the democratic position on abortion is the one out of step with the majority of americans. it said republicans should push back against critics who say they're trying to take away contraception or women's health care. president biden is using the abortion issue to sharpen his attacks on the so-called maga

kraud so use his term and they're agenda. yesterday he said the republican party's decision on roe v. wade could be a slippery slope. >> what happens if you have state changes the law saying that children who are lgbtq can't be in classrooms with other children. is that legit under the way that the decision is written? what are the next things that are going to be attacked? because this maga crowd is really the most extreme political organization that has existed in american history, in recent american history. >> and the president brings up a good point, joe. what is next? and i do think that anyone who said that oh, it will stop at abortion is crazy. >> well that is what the extreme wing of the republican party wants you to believe. but everything is on the table. if you start talking about that and overturned a 50-year

precedent that has the overwhelming support of american people, when only 19% of americans want to ban abortion. everything is on the table. conservatives have been attacking grizwald for years. i believe it was a 1965 ruling for the supreme court that said americans have a constitutional right to have contraceptives. that is on the table now. less of what extremists are saying. it is on the table because if you could overturn a half century precedent overwhelmingly supporting by americans sh you could overturn grizwald or overturn some of the other cases. this is an -- and the white house is starting to get it. because we talked about after le pen got defeated in france, we talked about how the majority of french voters thought that macron was arrogant. that the overwhelming majority of french voters thought that le pen, even though she might relate to them better, was

crazy. that is what the white house needs to start saying about a party that brought you jewish lazars. remember that, from somebody that kevin mccarthy said would be a leader in the new republican congress. the new congressional majority. are the same people these crazy republicans that talk about italian dudes with satellites that are stealing elections or the same crazy republicans that are going around with conspiracy theories talking about bamboo in ballots in arizona that it was a chinese plot and they sent the cyber ninjas to arizona because they were going to prove the election was stolen by joe biden. at the end, even though whackos, even the whackadoodles, after counting everything, said yeah, biden won. in market he may have gotten more votes than they original thought he may have had. and you could go one thing after another and you got a house republican saying that being in

the military is a waste of people's lives. constant attacks against the fbi. constant attacks against the fbi. and the intel community. it goes on and on. you have house republicans carrying loaded guns repeatedly. like as a badge of honor into airports. and taking videos that -- i mean suggest that they -- >> there is a problem there. >> there is governing by gesture. it is one thing to governor by gesture, we have to own the libs an we're going to build a wall, a beautiful wall. and then republicans are in power and lindsey graham, goes, well a wall doesn't really work, does it? and you have the texas senator john cornyn, that doesn't make sense. to republicans when they're in power, they admit. it they said the quiet part out loud. yeah, the wall doesn't work. that is why they had two years

where they could have passed all of the funding they needed to build the wall. and they wouldn't do it. why? because it was government by gesture. well we're into a new phase here, folks. >> yeah. >> it is no longer just government by gesture. you have in texas a governor who was so desperate to own the libs that he declared a war against truckers that ended up costing texans $4 billion. and as the white house said yesterday, you had a governor in florida, he's going to cost, because he wants to own the libs again, he does this gesture that is going end up in his war against the magic kingdom costing central taxpayers up to a billion dollars. central florida taxpayers. will pay for his war on the libs. to own the libs. and speaking of florida, i think it is fascinating and i want to bring in chief white house

correspondent for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, is to fascinating. yesterday we saw desantis who loves a great culture war, right. and what would be a greater culture war than abortion. we saw him sort of back off going hold on, everybody. we don't know quite yet whether this is going to actually become the law of land or not. because if you look at a tampa bay times article yesterday, it showed that only 23% of floridians want roe v. wade overturned. if you look at another poll, ome 19% of americans want abortion banned. so, these -- i'm not saying you, you're a reporter, i will call them extreme elements of the republican party, they're speaking for about one in five voters. that may put a of republicans in a very difficult position when they can't point to roe v. wade as the boogeyman. once that goes away, they're exposed and they may have to

face angry voters. >> yeah, i mean the theory of the case of course is that anti-abortion voters have been more motivated to vote over the years so for republican politicians it was good sense to appeal to them because you could galvanize them and get the turnout and they didn't get as excited because they didn't see roe v. wade under threat. now it is clearly under threat and it may in fact be going away within a month or so if that takes part. what the democrats are counting on is that the complacent prorights voters will come out in droves and the poll numbers will translate into support at ballot box. we'll see. it may or may not be the case. but that is the question of the moment. so when you see governor desantis hedging because there is that concern on the part of republican politicians that the dog has caught the car and now what will happen at ballot box, will that galvanize the other side, awake the sleeping dragon

of supporters or will they be complacent and sit at home and allow the other side to dominate at the ballot box. >> let me ask you about reporting in "the new york times" about the war in ukraine. u.s. officials have revealed to "the new york times" the united states has been providing realtime battlefield intelligence to ukrainians giving them a critical advantage over russian forces. the times reports that the intelligence apparently has helped ukraine target russian generals 12 of which has been killed during the war. but the nsc said while the u.s. provides intelligence to help ukraine defend itself, the intent is not to kill russian generals. the kremlin responded this morning by saying it is well aware of what the united states is doing but it won't stop russia from reaching its goals. nbc news has not confirmed "the new york times" reporting. so peter, this is in your paper this morning. we've talked to many experts over the last few hours who have

said it is not surprising in addition to the military aid coming over, there is training from the united states, of ukrainian forces and, yes, the sharing of intelligence where the ukrainians could find troop movements and the loke of some of the leadership. >> yeah, i mean, this is where the united states could play a real force multiplier role without engaging militarily in a war. because the united states does bring extraordinary intelligence assets to the table and to the extent that they share those assets or share the information that they gain from those assets with the ukrainians, that increases their capacity and lethal -- lethal capacity to attack. 12 russian generals, i could be wrong, i think the americans lost one general in the entirety of the afghan war and iraq war basically. we don't put our generals up front. the russians have a different doctrine than we do. but 12 generals in a space of three months is an extraordinary loss on the part of russian

military and one that is debilitating for a chain of command where you see forces that are struggling with logistics, struggling to put together a coherent battle plan and of course that stems from the lack of leadership there on the front. >> all right, peter stay with us. still to come on this hour of "morning joe," donald trump jr. spoke with the january 6 committee for two hours. while a member of the oath keepers said the group's founder tried to call former president trump on february 6th. betsy woodruff swan has the reporter on this and andrew ross sorkin will explain how the biggest interest rate hike in over decades and later russianez break through ukrainian defenses in a mariupol steel plant for the first time. we'll speak to former ambassador derek shearer. all of that still ahead when "morning joe" returns.

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19 past the hour. let's take a look at some must read opinion pages in a recent op ed for the guardianen tiled, trump still won't shut up. he's doing democrats running for office a huge favor. robert reef writes in part, whether trump's endorsements pay off in wins is beside the point. by making these races all about him, trump and the media are casting the midterms as a whole as a referendum on trump's continuing power and influence. this is exactly what democrats need. democrats can also count on american's reawakened awareness at the hatefulness and chaos trump and his republican

enablers have unleashed. and it is this combination democrats scoring some additional victories for average americans and trump and others doing everything possible to recollect his viciousness that could well reverse conventional wisdom about midterms and keep democrats in control. i don't know. he seems to have a pretty strong hold on his candidates and republicans in off, joe. but one thing that i wonder, is roe v. wade being overturned just in time for the midterms. i do think that there are women who will step up, they will be so angry and that is includes some republican women. >> well, again, if only 19% of americans support banning abortion, if only 23% of floridians favor the overturning of roe v. wade and maybe 28, 29% of all americans, you're behind

the eight ball political to say the least. but that is where donald trump is right now. yes, yes maybe trump helps in primaries. in republican primaries with the most extreme members of that party. but we've seen it time and again. donald trump helps somebody in the primaries, they get to general elections and what do they do? the same thing that donald trump did. they lose. donald trump got crushed in the 2018 midterms. and of course donald trump more than anybody else helped the democrats take control of the united states senate. ask republicans in georgia, they will tell you that they would have want both of those senate races in 2020 and mitch mcconnell would have been running the united states senate but for donald trump. so, yeah, i know a lot of democrats were glad when trump got banned from twitter. but actually the best thing for the democrats would be if he got

become on twitter. if he kept running his mouth. if he kept sending out stupid tweets. because it would remind those voters who voted for republicans up and down the ballot that votered for joe biden in 2020 exactly why they did that. more trump, means less republicans getting elected in 2022. willie. >> and in the state of georgia, remember, donald trump said he might even support stacey abrams over brian kemp which is an interesting development. he probably didn't mean that. but his point was brian kemp hasn't been sufficiently loyal. we'll see. if jd is the next senator it is because of donald trump and if dr. oz is the next, it is because of donald trump. it is in a mixed bag. it is not working for the governor's race there in georgia. henry olson has a new piece titled with or without trump,

tuesday's primaries por tend a maga year ahead. writing while trump's endorsement clearly helped jd vance it is still notable that all two-thirds of voters chose someone else. trump is in flewen shall but not the almighty emperor all make him out to be. and republican turnout was more than double theirs with nearly 1.1 million ohioans choosing a gop ballot compared with only 500,000 who voted in the democratic party. early in the cycle, one should never place too much stock in just a couple of elections but the signs are unmistakable. stormy weather ahead for business republicans and team blue, full speed ahead for the maga express, joe. what do you make of that argument? >> well, i mean, i guess to. i mean, peter baker, it is not like we haven't been talking about the conundrum that republicans have been under since 2017. we started seeing it in those

county wide races in pennsylvania like in delaware county that not elected democrats to their county board in over 100 years and it happened in 2017, 2018, 2019, with governorships in kentucky, louisiana. talk about the reddest of the red states going democratic. and then again in 2020, if it is full steam ahead for maga, republicans in the primaries, this is something that should make democrats breathe a sigh of relief. >> one thing i would add to the argument that j.d. vance not getting a majority of republican voters, the trick is the other candidates were competing to be more trump like. it was not a trump like candidate who happened to come ahead of a variety of other style republicans. this were all trump republicans anz which one would prevail and the one that got the trump endorsement. the question is how will it translate in the fall.

the trick for democrats is it didn't work in virginia last year during oft year election. they thought that running against trump would be successful for terry mcallin and it wasn't. and glenn youngkin showed how to run but not embrace himself 100% and what does this mean for this fall? we're hearing from the white house and other democratic places talk about is not just about trump but the whole maga -- that is why you heard say the whole maga collection. so in other words, the argument might be if you want to turn congress over to marjorie taylor greene, for instance, not just trump but name specific people in congress that iing sayre in charge of congress if you vote for, is the way they're looking at it. when nancy pelosi led over a takeover, not running against trump but by pocketbook and health care issues and things that voters cared about. we'll see whether that strategy falls by the wayside this year

in favor of an anti-maga strategy to galvanize democratic voters in a potentially post-roe world. >> now to the latest developments from the investigation into the january 6 capital riot. former president trump's oldest son don jr. testified before the house committee. he appeared via video conference for about two hours and spoke to them voluntarily. meanwhile a member of the far right militia group the oath keepers told a court that its founder tried to call former trump from his hotel room as the riot unfolded. let's bring in national correspondent for politico and contributor betsy woodruff swan. what does this say about trump's ties to the rioters that day, specifically the oath keepers? >> it tells us there might be more to the story than we know. what the oath keeper who presented this information to

the court has said, he's pleaded guilty and cooperating. what he's said is that he was in a suite at a hotel close to the capital building towards the tail end of the riot but before police had fully secured the building. so after the heat of the violence had started to dissipate, he was in a suite in a hotel room, with stuart rhodes, the founder and the head of oath keepers and athis person said that rhodes put a phone call on speaker, did not identify the caller on that phone call, but that the person claimed to be an intermediary to donald trump. what we don't know is if this person was an intermediary to donald trump. throw a rock in washington, d.c. and you'll hit a person who claimed they have a relationship with a former president. but it shouldn't be that hard for the justice department to figure out who this unnamed person was. because presumably, there would be phone records. you would be able to find out

what phone call was connected to that anonymous voice claiming to have a relationship with the president. what this speaks to more broadly as well is the immense value of high-level cooperation that the doj is receiving from the people planning and organizing and the execution of the attack. and why the doj and the fbi were so concerned after the january 6 attack, because the attack, january 6 didn't end on january 6. these plans continued. there were obviously conversations trying to get president trump to continue to help with a violent effort to keep biden from ascending to the presidency. we also know that steward rhodes spent tens of thousands of dollars on military equipment because the doj put it in their criminal indictment that they brought against steward rhodes.

and the justice department and the fbi saw the attack on the american electoral system as not starting and ending on january 6 but as starting long before and as continuing in the wake of the violence. >> yeah and you know, peter baker, the one thing that we're going to see as this investigation moves forward is you're going to have a lot of people who were loyal to donald trump up until january 6. and as that unfolded, we've seen one text message after another text message whether it is from fox news, supporters of donald trump or whether it is from family members of donald trump, or whether it is from people on the inside and the white house, begging him to do something or telling people that they're going to do something, these people are now talking to the january 6 committee. i'm sure that don jr. guarded his words as well as ivanka. but there are a lot of staff members that is not. and that is how we're hearing

details donald trump was watching the violence unfold, the mobs attacking capitol police officers but also rewinding his dvr to replay the most violent parts of it. those are the details that are coming from the inside. >> yeah, and it was remarkable to see the president's son speak to the committee without objecting, his daughter has now spoken as you rightly point out, ivanka and jared and kushner and stephen miller has spoken. so why is that that mark meadows is not for instance speaking. why is he still resisting and others who were aides to the president who were advisers, steve bannon and the others still refusing and if the own family is speaking to the committee. it makes you wonder what they know and what is going on within trump world that some would resist and others would not. the family doesn't want to get on the other side of a department of justice contempt cytation which could send them to print and they've decided to

cooperate with the existing body of congress which is the tradition, long held in democracy, that congress could investigate these kinds of things. and so mark meadows an some of the others are not saying to committee that they're trying to keep back. >> good question. we'll find out. betsy woodruff swan, thank you so much for your reporting. greatly appreciate it. and willie, why don't recap for our west coast viewers that have just gotten up what we've been talking about for last three hours before they got up at 6:00 a.m. that of course the west coast and baseball of course. you and i just absolutely glued to the tv last night. watching the dodgers beat the giants 9-1. the padres of course losing a close one to cleveland. but jonathan lemire's favorite team, the angels beating the boston red sox and my gosh,

we've been looking at the nl standing for three hours now because without a doubt the best division in baseball, right? >> we've been looking so closely i have no idea what they are. but i bet the dodgers are leading the division. i bet the giants are up there somewhere as well. they're really good. the rockies are playing pretty well and you have throe them in and the padres too. but there is a lot of mourning that the yankee's 11-game winning streak was snapped in toronto yesterday. we've been focuses almost entirely on west coast standings. >> and of course. >> the pandering. >> and as willie geist said, the dodgers and giants are real good. we know this. we live this. this is -- baseball is life especially west coast baseball. >> coming up. >> go d'backs.

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it is 38 past the hour and the marks have just opened after yesterday's huge rebound to end the trading day. which came after the federal reserve raised its core interest rate by half a percent. the second hike in two months and the largest since 2000 as the fed works to tamp down inflation. dow closed at more than 900 points higher because of the news. joining us now, columnist and editor for "the new york times" book and co-anchor of cnbc

squawk box, andrew ross sorkin is with us. >> good rebound yesterday from the markets. this morning though, of course, down a little bit. the tech stocks are -- are tanking down. amazon down 3.5%. why have the tech stocks that have made so much people so much money, why where are they underperformed the rest of the dow. >> growth stocks have been a growth play, a risk on play. people are speculating about their futures. as interest rates get higher, typically people get less speculative. those more speculative plays also typically require more capital. more capital is more expensive as interest rates go up. so that is a little bit of the back and forth. what you're seeing i think today

and yesterday, might be a little bit of a dead cat bounce situation here. what the fed said yesterday was in some ways more dovish than people had anticipated. there was a view that it could be as high as a 75 basis point raise on -- in the future and effectively powell said that is not on the table. that is a relief rally we saw yesterday but people are now taking in what all of this means and it still means that there is interest rate hikes, 50 basis points interest rate hikes likely for next two meetings and a sense that the economy between the conversation we had yesterday and today, it is not like the economy has gotten that much better. >> no, and we have steve ratner on this morning talking about how difficult it was going to be for the fed chairman and the fed to land the plane smoothly, that it would be a bumpy ride. what is the feeling among all of the experts? you talk to experts all day for

cnbc and the times, do they believe we're going into a recession early next year? >> look, i think the betting line still, and by the way sometimes when the betting line is one way it turns out to be the opposite. but i think the smart money, if we think there are smart, still think there are going to be some form of a recession come 2023. but having said that, that doesn't mean that we're living through a 2008 style financial crisis or what happened in 1929. it could be we're down another 5% or 10% in the markets and the economy continues its sluggish push. by the way, we talked about mortgage rates, credit card rates and gas all of that is going to be what is the issue here. potentially even more so than what the fed does. >> and that is really interesting yesterday, that chairman powell actually did about russia. there has been a debate on our side of the street on the political side of the street about biden's claim that

inflation is caused in large part by russia. maybe not in large part, a lot of it could come out of the pandemic, but yesterday the fed chairman did say the war in russia, the absolute mess with china's covid policy all contributing to inflation? >> look. there is no question. you look at what is happening with the supply chain issue in china. that is an issue. and it is not an issue that is going away any time soon unfortunately. you look at the price of oil and the crisis between russia and krarn. that is an issue. these things unfortunately seem to be issues that we're going to be living with for quite sometime unless you think they resolve themselves and i think that is going to be very hard. >> thank you so much. and coming up, a look at the stories making front page news across the country, including a new pledge from iowa democrats in a bid to keep the first in the nation status.

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visit indeed.com/hire just the height of perversity and absurdity that these folks, a., lay claim to freedom, but perhaps more insidiously, suggest that they're pro-life. when every single one of these folks that are out there trumping and chamming this decision have consistently opposed prenatal care soup. consistently opposed child care, consistently opposed paid family leave, consistently apoe all

things to strengthen the family and provide the support for someone to live their lives out loud. so support working moms. consistently. the one group of people that overand over and over again, oppose all of those supports and they claim to be pro-life. they're pro-birth. that is all this is about. it is a pro-birth party. and then you on your own. >> that was california governor gavin newsom speaking yesterday outside of a planned parenthood facility calling out republicans and promising to protect abortion rights in his state. >> let's take a look at morning papers in iowa, the des moines register reports that the democratic party is promising to rework the caucus as it fights to keep the first in the nation status. they've kicked off the process for the last 50 years but last month the dnc voted to change

things up and now any state could apply for the coveted spot. you remember the debacle in iowa the last time around. to idaho where the people's convoy, a rally at the speedway in the state hundreds gathered to fight against government overreach about one rally goer saying we want our america back. the truck convey is set to leave for washington, d.c. this morning. and a state's first month of legal cannabis sales reached nearly $40 million in revenue. the cannabis controlled digs has estimated the industry will create 11,000 jobs and bring in $50 million in tax revenue in its first year. to california, the "san francisco chronicle" detailing a payroll debacle going on within the public schools. to months teachers and staff members have been dealing with

payroll errors, the situation was so bad this week one elementary school principle had a h to write a personal check to his second grade teachers so she could pay her rent. the district failed to pay her at all in the month of april. the detroit news one of its owns morning as oscar and grammy winning rammer eminem is now headed to the rock and roll hall of fame. he's on a list of new inductees that includes duran duran, dolly parton, who you remember said she wasn't worthy of the honor and sdd not to be put in and the hall said, we're putting you in. also, pat benatar, eurythmics and carly simon. >> a really good collection. and i'm so glad to see artists like, for instance, carly simon, who, you know, in the early '70s when she was having hits, maybe some rock snobs might have thought, well, that's pop, it's

not worthy of being -- it's not worthy of her be, in the pantheon of rock stars. her songs, her voice, her talent had withstood the test of time. just other great artists in there, too. it's going to be an exciting induction ceremony. >> it will be fun. good for dolly. she did the right thing and she put her in anyway. the beatrice, nebraska, a world war ii veteran turning 100 today and still giving back. he delivers up to two dozen meals to senior citizens in his community. he says he gives out hugs while on the delivery route and does not plan on slowing down any time soon. 100 years old today. >> that's wonderful. >> he's given so much to this country, mika. >> amazing. back now to the war in ukraine starting a few minutes from now, the u.n. security council will be holding a

meeting on ukraine. the u.s. ambassador says the discussion will focus on protecting ukrainian civilians dealing with food shortages and further isolating russia. it is the first meeting of the unsc since the united states took over as leader of the council at the beginning of may. and the latest on the war itself, for the first time russian forces have reached ukrainian defenses at that steel plant in mariupol. according to a ukrainian commander, there are, quote, heavy, bloody battles now being fought in the plant's bunkers and fallout shelters. about 200 civilians are believed to be still inside that plant along with an unknown number of ukrainian soldiers. at this point, they are all that stands between russia and full control of the city of mariupol. there is fierce debate under way at the european union as members decide whether or not to sign onto a new proposal that would

ban russian oil imports within six months. already hungary and slovakia have raised objections and offered several exemptions to give them an extra year to adjust to the ban. other countries, such as poland, believe the proposed timeline is too slow. the plan needs unanimous approval from all 27 countries in order to pass and could be voted on within days. and the u.s. is offering security assurances to sweden and finland during the period after they apply to join nato and before they are officially granted entry. that period could last up to a year. and russia has threatened both nations with consequences if they seek to join the international defense alliance. on wednesday the sweden foreign minister said u.s. secretary of state antony blinken promised various forms of security

assurance for both countries. let's bring in former u.s. ambassador to finland derek sheerer. it's good to have you, sir. there are so many different issues to talk about. i think i want to talk about the u.n. security council and the ban on oil and the special exemptions for two countries that are very heavily dependent on russian oil. is there a way to speed it up? that seems like it would squeeze russia in a way we haven't seen before? >> we would like to speed it up, but it's hard because the west has allowed itself to become dependent, especially europe, on russian oil and gas. you can't change that relationship overnight. certainly this war is going to change it in the long run. >> yeah, mr. ambassador, could you explain to our viewers just what a dramatic step it would be for finland to become a part of nato? i mean, we've looked at as

germany has changed their policy militarily for the first time, obviously, since '45. but finland becoming a member of nato, that is momentous. can you explain how momentous that is. >> well, it is a big change, and it's, of course, the opposite of what vladimir putin wanted to happen. he wanted to weaken nato. instead, nato is going to be strengthened by taking in finland and sweden. i was ambassador when finland joined the eu, which became then the northern border of the eu with russia. now once finland joins nato t will become the 800-mile northern order with russia. russia is ending up with two strong, well-developed, very tough countries added to the nato situation. it's the opposite of what he wanted. and for finland, who had to be neutral during the cold war because of being on the russian

border, this is not a big change, but it's a significant change. finland already has been using our f-18 hornets, which they purchased when i was ambassador, and they just decided to buy the new f-35s. they're fully interoperable with nato. they'll be a plus to the security of nato. >> mr. ambassador, good morning. it's great to have you on. we had as recently as yesterday singing the praises of the finnish military and saying what an asset, as you say, it would be to nato as well. what is the relationship at this point between finland, if you can describe it, and russia, because shares, i think, 800 miles or so of border with that country. what would be the practical significance of finland being in nato? >> well, the practical significance, i think, for the finns is that now the russians are going to threaten them. we don't know what's going to happen in this transition period, which is why some security guarantees from the

u.s. are important for finland and for sweden. there might be some cyberattacks. it's hard to tell. on the other hand, russia knows that the finns are tough. i mean, the finns fought them in 1939 when the soviet union invaded. that's where the molotov cocktail came from. it was invented by finns to fight off the soviet tanks. the finnish army is well regarded. they've been part of partnership for peace since i was ambassador. so, it's not that finland is a threat to russia, but what russia has done is become an added threat to finland. so, now nato is part of the new border in the north with russia. and it's russia's doing. >> and just to give americans an understanding of -- we talked about that 800-mile border that nato troops could line up along. but just explain the close proximity from finland's border

to st. petersburg. >> well, yeah, there's now a fast train from helsinki to st. petersburg. takes you about two hours. there is a station in st. petersburg called the finland station. that's actually the station at which lennon arrived when he came through finland to make his revolution. there is a lot of border crossing trades. russian businessmen send their kids to school in finland. it was always finland's hope, especially when it joined the eu, that russia would become a normal european country. one you could trade with, travel to like other countries, but, unfortunately, under putin, that's not been the case. so, the finns are doing the smart thing by joining nato because they don't want to take any chances that they are going to become the next ukraine. >> fascinating.

former ambassador to finland, now professor of diplomacy at occidental college, derek shearer, thank you for be, on the show this morning. one last development to get in. law enforcement in fiji has seized a massive $33 million mega yacht belonging to a sanctioned russian oligarch. these are pictures of the 348-foot-long luxury vessel the u.s. says is owned by a multibillionaire with close ties to the putin government. the seizure was made at the request of the u.s. government and coordinated with a justice department task force. >> by the way, i just checked on it. the distance between the finnish border and st. petersburg where putin was born, about the same distance between new york and philadelphia. it's about a two-hour drive. that does it for us this morning. jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage right now. thanks so much for watching.

go, dodgers, giants, padres. >> good morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern/7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. happening right now in ukraine, heavy fighting is under way in mariupol as more civilians escape the relentless violence. back in washington, we're learning new details about a critical meeting between president biden and lawmakers urging the white house to protect millions of immigrant families who call the united states home. senator bob menendez will join us with more. also new this morning, a massive fence now installed outside the supreme court as emotions run high at abortion protests across the country. a once unthinkable milestone in this pandemic. 1 million americans have now died as a result of covid-19. what one family is asking the white house to do to remember those lost.