really start in this business until two or three years ago. you've got a trainer that, again, is not seen as somebody that would come to the top of everybody's head. and then you have a jockey, i think it may have been you that said, oh, yeah, he's a top jockey in youngstown, ohio. and how were getting the information, in that split-second when we were screaming in front of the tv sets? i'm just curious how you guys managed that moment, that moment in history in horse racing. >> so i'll give you four things real quick. our producer lindsay and she leads a group that has us all prepared. we have researchers who are the best of the best, the nbc sports research team is amazing. they gave us a whole bunch of information.

we're always covered on every horse and i was talking with our researcher brandon glass right before we went out to the set early in the afternoon on saturday, we were kind of joking around about this horse. and we started, let's just make sure we have something just in case, because a few years ago there was a disqualification and a horse country house won the derby because maximum security was disqualified for bumping down the lane. so it reminded us, you never know which of the 20 horses is going to be the story. so let's make sure we're ready. and the big ones we talk about all day we're ready for but we had just pulled a couple of bits of information and a couple of more quotes just in case this horse showed up out of nowhere and as their coming down the stretch and larry called rich strike and it is panic mode and grab the piece of basis pointer and be r&d for what we just looked up on the horse and we were pretty fortunate that this show reminds us that anything can happen. and over five hours we like to talk about every horse. we got lucky, as the horses were

loaded, we had a shot of rich strike, we were able to unload his story and i said it is the derby, you never know what will happen and it happened two and a half minutes later. that is why we love sports. because you show up every day and you think you know what will happen until you watch and then you realize you never know what will happen. >> you never know. an incredible, incredible race. incredible moment in sports history and you did an incredible job as always. thank you so much for your work and thank you for being with us this morning. >> thanks, joe, thanks, mika. >> thank you, mike. the triple crown, runs on saturday may 21st. nbc sports will have the coverage. mike tirico thank you so much for coming on with us. >> we may be going to baltimore, okay. my dad and his college room made francis bush would go to the preakness every year. >> that would be fun. >> that was their thing. >> later on the fourth hour of "morning joe," we're going to

talk one more time about the historic derby finish. mike lupica will be here for that and we'll talk about golfer phil mickelson and whether he gambled away a staggering amount of money. and in this hour, in less than 30 minutes the stock market will open after ending last week in chaotic fashion. andrew ross sorkin will be here on that and how record-breaking gas prices might make things worse. plus brand-new comments from mitch mcconnell that has activists worried abortion could become illegal across the country. but we begin this hour in russia where it is victory day. a day that traditionally marks the soviets defeating the nazis in 1945. but this year is also a meant of show of support for the war in ukraine with vladimir putin essentially conflating the two during his big speech.

>> i address our armed forces now and the measurement of donbas. you're fighting for your motherland, to its future. so that nobody will forget the lessons of the second world war, so there will be no place in the world for punishers and nazis. >> here is the lesson. >> okay. >> of world war 2. invaders, they go up against a strong and determined country that knows the terrain. that knows the battlefield. the invaders get pushed back. it happened in nazi germany when they went in russia in june of '41. and eventually it is -- it is happening to russia right now. >> and this includes a parade.

11,000 marching and tanks and missile launchers. that demonstration comes at the same time that we've seen russia's weaknesses. exposed by ukrainian forces. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy also marked victory day. reminding the world that one in five ukrainians also died in world war 2. and this morning, he said his people are once again on the right side of history. he said, quote, we will never forget what our ancestors did in world war which killed more than 8 million ukrainians. very soon there will be two victory days and someone won't have any. we won then and we will win now. and this morning ukrainian soldiers are still fighting in the bunkers and tunnels beneath that mariupol steel plant. holding out despite waves of attacks by russian war planes ab

tanks and artillery. the fighters who remained inside have repeated russian deadlines to lay down arms. one soldier insisted, quote, surrender for us is unacceptable. one piece of good news. the last of the civilians who were trapped in that steel plant have now been evacuated. roughly 175 people from mariupol including 40 who had been inside of that plant for weeks arrived in ukrainian controlled territory on sunday. in all, about 600 people were evacuated from mariupol in the past ten days. and what stories they must have to tell. russia is stepping up a barrage after tacks against civils across eastern ukraine. the ukrainian military said russian troops have shelled more than a dozen villages in the donetsk region over the past 24 hours. among the facilities that were hit, a medical facility, a

poultry farm and several residential billings. all of that follows a devastating attack on a school that was being used for a shelter. roughly 90 people were hiding in the school basement when it was hit. 60 of them are believed to have died in the attack. >> let's bring in retired four star general barry mccaffrey. he's an nbc news military analyst. >> and also with us, mary elise sarotte. a post cold war historian. >> so general. let's begin with you. here we are on victory day, may 9th. what does vladimir putin have to show for his eight, nine weeks of war in ukraine. >> well, that speech by putin marks a man who has run out of ideas. he's in a strategic disaster, economic sanctions he's a pariah

state and his undisciplined cruel violent battalion combat teams. he's lost by some estimates 25% of his combat power that he put into ukraine. it is now absorbed half of his air force, 60% of his ground forces, and he's got almost nothing to show for it. the war is not yet decided. u.s. and nato technology being delivered to these incredible ukrainian fighters is going to make a difference. but i think in the long run, economic sanctions has got to collapse a russian economy for putin to back off his fixation on absorbing ukraine back into mother russia. >> so general, as you look at what has happened in the first phase of this war, you look at russia problems with logistics, with morale, with the fact that

their weaponry is just third rate compared to the western weapons that are pouring in, the nato weapons that are pouring in. how the world does he ever secure the land bridge between russia and crimea. and by the way, this is a jingoism. i'm trying to look at the past and figure out what happens over the next ten weeks. i just don't see how he takes and holds land if the dynamics remain as they are. you know this so much better than any of us. who do you see going forward? >> well clearly the defense is stronger than the offense in this case. the russians have not been able to maneuver. they were defeated north of kyiv, kharkiv, they're pushing the russians back. the offensive from the east has been stagnant. and even in poor mariupol, the beleaguered ukrainians are still fighting on. however, however russia is an

artillery army and they have an air force five times that of ukrainian. so we're going to see the continued destruction of infrastructure and massive loss of life as long as putin can keep it up. i don't think that the man power deferential with russians is enough to pull this off in terms of conquering the entire country. i don't see that happening. i don't understand how it ends. putin will never give up his long range plans. but, look, i would assert how wars start are normally by miscalculation. how they end is even more important. so i'm firmly convinced we can't leave putin with a notion that he won on anything. this has to be a disaster for him. ukraine will never be safe while putin's the dictator in russia. >> that is a great point. >> agreed.

professor, let's talk about the new cold war that you've written about. now, i remember growing up in a family whose father was a cold warrior, we all were. i remember going to college and being surprised to be hold that the soviet union, that the polit bureau was conservative with a small "c." they didn't -- like in crush chef was used as a perfect example. if they thought somebody was unstable, they would take somebody out of power like they took crush check out of power. and you've written that we're lacking those guardrails. explain why this must be more dangerous in the new cold war than the old. >> we've pun back up to cold war like conditions in a

breathtakingly short period of time. the old cold war evolved over decades, i'll actually right now in berlin, actually in a castle outside of berlin for a conference about how the -- europe went from world war 2 in the cold war, the wood work behind me is hundreds of years old and the cold war evolved over decades but now here we are in a matter of weeks and we don't have the guardrails, we don't have the arms control agreements negotiated an the number of military to military contacts that we had in the '90s were gone and we've closed cob -- consulates. there is only one treaty that behinds mock ow and it expired in 2024 and i'm not holding my breath for it to be renewed. so it is worrying that we've the images from the past but we don't have the guardrails or the safeguards that we had back then. >> there are so many professors striking lines in history.

my mother, 90 years old, was run out of check slovakia during world war 2 and she's having flash backs now. i can't even have her watch the news because it is so vividly similar. how talk about how the similarities to 1939 ands and what they're been going through. >> it is surreal. i know images like this from historic footage and is surreal to turn on "morning joe" and msnbc and see it in realtime. i have a hard time believing it. one of the reasons why putin is having to lean into the history of the past so much is because he hasn't got a victorious present or a victorious future. and so he is intentionally reviving these images of past glories and past successes because the truly brutal war in ukraine is going to so badly and because the ukrainians are

fiercing so fiercely and so he's trying to tug on russian emotional heart strings to gather support for what is a very unfortunate invasion which is not going at all well as the general said. >> so general mccaffrey, we have been talking all morning about how putin doesn't have a lot to say in his speech today. but he did brandish something that still is scary, nuclear weapons still part of that parade today. so to this point u.s. officials have not seen any signs that he would go down that route. that he would unleash some sort of chemical company. but talk about fears that you may have that that could change if the situation keeps getting worse for moscow. would putin eventually play that unthinkable card? >> no. you know, i've spent half of my life dealing with nuclear weapons from a tactical to a strategic level, i've been an armed control negotiators with the russians and the ukrainians,

and putin fully well understands that the potential consequences of vertical nuclear escalation. russia would cease to exist as a viable state entity. he knows that. he understands that. and what i am concerned about is if he misjudged the will of nato, of the west, would he consider using a tactical nuclear device. but what would his target be. a ukrainian city and kill 250,000 people and an attack on poland and support for the ukrainian military, i can't believe that either. now having said that, his personal, political survival is at stake and he's in a time bubble here where the information he's getting is probably distorted. so it is possible that they wrote in their doctrine that they would escalate to de-escalate. use a tactical nuclear weapon, and stun the west and then try to talk to us.

it is mumbo jumbo. if he goes down that route, he has no idea where it will turn out. >> yeah, general, i'm curious, as we talk about the possibility of the use of nuclear weapons and you certainly have spoken powerfully how reckless putin and some of his diplomats and some the people on russian state tv are when they start talking about nuclear war. this raises the question, is this the same vladimir putin that we've been dealing with for 20 years? and i must say, i'll give you my position, i'd love to hear yours on where you are right now, it is kind of like when everybody said that cheney became irrational after his heart attack. no, he changed after the united states was attacked by terrorists in a washington and new york and shanksville,

pennsylvania. i've always thought putin has been acting like a cold blooded rationalist in that we let mim get away with what he wants to get away with in georgia in 2008. we let him get away with it with crimea in 2014 and syria in 2015 an the u.s. elections in 2016 spreading misinformation. it seems that putin has had a run on the west and been able to get away with whatever he's wanted to get away with. so what is irrational about him thinking he could get away with this in 2022. >> i think you make a good point. this is his fourth invasion that has paid off for him so far and he believes probably there is a limit to the economic sanctions. within a year or so the west will lose interest, and he doesn't think that the germans and many of the europeans have the resolve to get through turning off natural gas and/or oil. so he's probably in his heart

thinks he's not yet been check mated. i don't think he's right. i think this is steadily going to get worse for him. and the problem that we're going to have to deal with is who is talking to him that has credibility, that has leverage over his thinking? not many people. the oligarchs, he would take their money away overnight. and has done so. they're not going to oppose him. the army has no history of successfully taking down the state. he's got a 2500 person security system around him. it is going to be hard for somebody to end his life. so at the end of the day, the reality will be military power and joe, armies fail from the bottom up. not the top down. the generals aren't going to quit but the privates may an the captains. so the ukrainians unfortunately, the only way out is to kill russian soldiers and have the russian army collapse.

>> wow. retired four star army general barry mccaffrey and professor at johns hopkins university history mary sarrot. thank you very much for your insight this morning. and still ahead on "morning joe," the markets are about to open after a roller coaster week. andrew ross sorkin will set up what to watch for this week. and plus what senator mitch mcconnell had to say about a national ban on abortion. and we'll read from the must-read opinion pages including one that argues it is time for new graduates to actually go into the office. >> oh, my god. >> no. >> no really. >> you could only go out to dinner. cannot go to work. >> you may learn more as a graduate by working around other people. this story, i have to hear. >> that and a look at the morning papers across the country.

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a draft opinion was leaked when indicates they intend to over turn roe v. wade. so the court is usually careful but they slipped up just this once and now they have to live with it forever. it sounds unfair. the opinion was written by justice samuel alito and he braced his argument on the laws from the 1600s. this shouldn't be a supreme court decision, it should be a facebook post. >> that is snl look at the leaked draft opinion. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said a national ban on abortion could be possible if the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. in an interview with usa today,

the republican leader said legislative bodies at both the state and federal level could decide to pass legislation that bans abortions after the supreme court decision. quote, if this were the final decision, that was the point that it should be resolved one way or another in the legislative process. so, yeah, it's possible. >> so it is interesting, we're into a must-read opinion pages. there is a fascinating must read bottom of the page, "wall street journal," this talks about europe's abortion lessons an the "wall street journal" page talked about how the europeans handled this the judge said how democracy settled it debate and not judicial fiat and whether it is fascinating whether it is we or other countries that they bring up belgium, that they're more conservative than we are. and as far as how far into term they allow abortions.

but there still is right to abortions. still in europe for the most part. and they talk about how democracy works and they end up where the political polls show they would end up, at about the same place where the political polls are right now in the united states. if you look at all of them, i understand the argument, the only problem with that, mika, is that leaders in belgium are going to come to a fore different conclusion than what the laws should look like than say legislators in baton rouge who have gone to the extreme or talk about sweden, chances are good the swedish legislators are a bit more nuances than we're seeing when david french called some of the craziest legislation and he's pro-life. but he talked about some of the craziest legislation on state levels.

this weekend he had mississippi governor talking about refusing to rule out the banning of contraceptive rights. i'm telling you, this is not like crazy talk. constitutionally, i said it a couple of hours ago and i'll say it again right now, constitutionally, the constitutional basis, the framework, the foundation, the 14th amendment, that was used in roe was used in grizwald, was used in loving, was used, whether you're talking about contraceptive rights or marriage equality, whether you're talking about -- whatever you're talking about, these rights that were actually brought up in this decision last week, the draft, are all at risk. constitutionally. and there is no reason to believe listening to the state legislators that there is no reason to believe that they wouldn't all be at risk. so while i understand the import of the "wall street journal"

editorial and understand what they are saying. it makes sense on paper. until you start comparing how legislators are handling abortion in europe which they bring up as a bright and shining example and the race to the bottom in some states in the united states. >> democratic governor of michigan gretchen whitmer has an opinion piece in this morning's "new york times" taking the fight for safe legal abortion to states and she writes those in states where abortion is already protected at state level and where it will remain accessible if roe falls, may feel protected. there is in, however, a rae danger in a few short years with the federal control of the levers of power, anti-choice and anti-women extremists could enact a federal abortion ban which could abolish abortion nationally. regardless of state law, this is not the theoretical, it is their

end game. if with do not use every lever of power we have right now, or if we succumb to complacency, americans will suffer and may die. and we can all sense the hopelessness and despair that tens of millions of american women, our neighbors and family members and friends, are feeling. but despair is a choice and pessimism is a luxury. >> jonathan lemire, we were talking about, we've been talking about this case obviously for a while over the weekend. there was some protests outside the home of brett kavanaugh. somebody who many people believe still in play as someone who could help along with justice roberts moderate the language of alito's really harsh even by conservative standards harsh rhetoric in this leaked ruling.

did the white house have any comment about the protests out of the homes, outside of the homes of justices in. >> yeah, those protests attracting a lot of attention. those protesting, look these are our lives and our bodies at stake, we'll do whatever it takes. the white house quiet over the weekend about it but just a few minutes ago jen psaki in her last week on the job just tweeted this. potus, president of the united states, strongly believes that the constitutional right to protest but that should never include violent, threats or vandalism. judges perform an incredibly important function in our society, and they must be able to do their jobs without concern for their personal safety. so not exactly saying that they shouldn't protest, but suggesting that the protests should stay peaceful. and to this point, there is all evidence that they have. >> yeah. well, it is an important message to be given and again i will say as i said over the weekend, anybody that thinks that you're

going to persuade any justice or any politician by protesting outside of their home where their children are, well, you -- you may be short sighted. if it makes you feel better, you're free to do whatever you want to do. it seems to make a lot of people angry when i suggested this. it is about winning. i'm sorry. it is just about winning. and if you want to advance the cause, you need to dough what you think will help advance the cause. i don't know anybody who logically believes that helps advance the cause. that just makes people feel better about themselves and may set it back. >> coming up, markets set to open after a week of big swings. as gas prices hit an all-time high. sparking concern across the nation. andrew ross sorkin will join us to discuss. and later, this could say everything that you need to know about the state of republican party. one gop candidate won his

primary from inside a prison cell. >> well certainly. not about the whole republican party but about a lot of people that donald trump is endorsing with a history of violence against their wives. >> he's facing charges. >> so violence did he commit. >> he's facing charges of murdering his wife. >> oh, wow. >> yeah. plus mark esper describing the lengths he went to, to control former president trump. >> i come up with this idea, mark milley and i discuss it, what we call the four noes. the four things we have to prevent from happening between then and the election. and one was no strategic retreats, no unnecessary wars, and no politicization of the military and no misuse of the military, as we went through the next five to six months that became the metric by which we would measure things. >> the former defense secretary

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an indiana man accused of murder has won his gop primary challenge for a local election. he won it from jail. andrew wilhoite was charged in march for allegedly killing his wife who had finished her last round of chemo for breast cancer and was seeking a divorce after learning her husband was having an affair. according to the indiana state police, the couple got into a domestic dispute when wilhoite allegedly hit his wife in the head with a concrete gallon sized flower pot and placed her in his car and dumped her body in a nearby creek. wilhoite initially lied to police about his wife's whereabouts but later admitted to killing her. claiming it happened after she attacked him according to prosecutors. despite being charged with first-degree murder, wilhoite won his primary for one of three

seats on the clinton township board and will be on the ballot in november if he is not convicted before then. >> it is just every day, every day you think it can't get worse and it does for what some primary voters across the country will vote for. the markets just opened and we're watching whether wall street could bounce back after stocks saw the longest streak of weekly losses in over a decade and we're also watching gas prices. with the u.s. national average set to hit another all-time high today. less than two months after the last one. right now there are only seven state where's the average gas prices cost less than $4. and let's bring in co-anchor of squawk box andrew ross sorkin. you know, willie geist and i bet on the dogs. we don't -- and the ponies. we play the ponies. we don't do this whole wall

street thing. but i have noticed throughout covid, every time there was a dip, three days later, four days later, people would buy the dip. and then the markets would shoot back up. this is the first time in over two years that we've seen these dips and you keep waiting for it because the whole feeling was what goes down must go up and it always has. not this time. not yet. why? >> because there is a sense that it rather than being a v, that there could be a long "l." if you will. that is the real concern. what is happened here is during the pandemic, so many of these companies earning was pulled forward. right, all of the big tech companies. everything was pulled forward. and now when people are looking at companies they're saying well what is the growth story in the future if we're going to be paying these quote high multiples, these high prices for these stocks and people are

significantly less confident about that. you add the federal reserve on top of that with higher interest rates which means everybody's costs are going up and you add in the oil prices which you just talked about and that is taking money out of people's pockets. and it is starting to feel like it is going to be a tougher go for the next 12 months. so i would not anticipate that if you were to even buy in now, and by the way, these may be on sale prices if you plan to hold and open these stocks for five to tep years from now. but if you're thinking that this looked like six months, 12 months, 18 months ago where exactly what you said, things would just pop back up, i think that is going to be harder. >> all right. we want to bring you to an opinion piece of "the washington post" where columnist megan mccourtle writed, working from home could be comfortable, new graduates should go into the office. i don't think she's going to be very popular for this piece. >> what? >> so just hear her out. >> no, this is shocking.

>> hear her out. and andrew ross sorkin, a lot of people are still working at home. anyone who worked or schooled remotely during the pandemic knows what the draw backs of move offing to video conference. and the distracts of home make it easy por people to check out even when they want to pay attention. over time those deficits accumulate. you haven't made friends or built up a reservoir of good will with managers or peers that will carry you through rough patches and didn't hear the gossity about the competitors that might alert you to competitors to warn you off similar mistakes. you haven't listen toed the war stars that temperature you -- that teach you how to handle the right person at the coffee maker. when you depart, you aren't a fond memory but one less box on

the zoom screen. it is much easier to fire a box on the zoom screen than the nice kid you ate lunch with last week and as an entrepreneur of my acquaintance likes to point out, if your job can be done before fr the beach, it could also be done from bangladesh by someone who makes a lot money money than you do. so, andrew ross sorkin, i'm wondering what you're hearing from the business community about this. i worry about young people not having that in-person experience, not making those mistakes when you walk in the door and really feel what it is like to interact with someone and develop those important relationships. >> right. well, look, i couldn't agree more with the author of this piece. and i think that the business community couldn't agree more with the author either. they want people back in the office. i could tell you from my own career and i think i've told you the story before, i was 18-year-old i had a five-week

internship with "the new york times" with no intention of putting two words together and let alone a sentence and a he haditior assigned me a story to write. that would never happen if i was living on zoom. it just couldn't. it is an impossible. so there is no question building that rapport, that relationship is something that couldn't happen. and having said that, could people work at the office three days a week as opposed to five. maybe. that makes sense some. and there is an argument to be made in tech companies that that they could access more diverse group of works if they could access them electronically all over the country. so there is going to be some of that and more and better tools but i think the truth is at least especially in the early stages of your career, being with other people matters a whole lot. >> i was going to say, the early stages of the career and jonathan lemire, let's bring you

in, even now, i mean, for me, what helped me all along was a personal interactions, getting to know people, not just my bosses but middle managers and getting to know people that i worked with. building that's friendships but also, man, i mean, the intel that you pick up when you're just walking down the hall talking to somebody about a football game on sunday. did you see the game and they go oh, any god, yeah, oh, by the way did you hear that company is thinking about x. no, how did you -- and the things that you pick up day in and day out. maybe people aren't interested in getting ahead at work. but if you are, then being there makes a big -- at least it did in my career and i would guess everybody that is on the screen right now and everybody on this screen could all say the same thing. we learn more by being around

other people. >> maybe i should try talking about sports at work. maybe that will help. no, but to andrew's point, i had a similar experience where my first job out of college, i had an internship at the new york daily news, meant just to be for the summer but i was there and able to do some good work but also built some relationships with editors and colleagues so at end of the summer, they said, hey, we're still not going to hire you and they're paying me about $200 a week and maybe we could keep your internship going for a while and i had no other alternative. move back to massachusetts or stay put. well, that was september 1st 2001 and ten days later covered the attack on the world trade center and was hired but none of the opportunities was happened if you had done in an office setting than over a phone or commuter screen. >> we're going to find different ways of doing thing and it is going to end up somewhere in a

hybrid. i know for women, this could be life changing and career saving to have the opportunity to work hybrid or work from home at times and so there is that whole conversation that we haven't had. so i just want to put a frame around that. i would also say that if we wore working from home 15 year ago, "morning joe" wouldn't exist. there you go. >> is that an argument for working from home. >> maybe. this is a good point. andrew ross sorkin, thank you very much. coming up on "morning joe," we'll look at the stories making the front pages across the country. we're also following some major sports headlines including golf superstar phil mickelson reportedly gambling is a way $40 million. >> yikes. >> and the 80-1 come from behind stunner at the kentucky derby. >> their coming down to the wire. epicenter has centered and rich

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run. padres win it 3-2! >> some of the walk-off wins across baseball yesterday. people who watch it four hours. incredible scene in san diego. mike lupica, latest novel, top of the charts, robert b. park's revenge tour. so much to talk about. i want to talk about first of all, feeling like the 1950, where you have to be from new york, like, you have to be from a major market to win. you have the dodgers, and the angels out of l.a., the mets and the yankees out of new york, on fire.

like, they are forget the subway series. we have the subway series, then, you know, we have the l.a. series. talk about this baseball season so far. please, please, don't mention my boston red sox. >> what is going on in boston, as we discussed yesterday, the general manager has done something amazing, it is like a magic trick. he made the red sox disappear. it is very unusual in new york. i wrote a column about this yesterday in the "daily news." for both teams to finish first, the last time it happened was 2006. this is the way they have broken from the game, to use a kentucky derby reference. buck showalterhas shown what a

great manager can do for a team. including the $324 million picture. it is a good time to be a baseball fan in new york. the dodgers, we knew would be good. the angels are a surprise. mike trout has been the best player in baseball for a long time. you know how many playoff games he has been in? three. one home run. that's it. >> it is for east coast fans, such a terrible thing if you love baseball. to not see trout play. now, that you have two of the best players in the game, if not the one and two best players in the game.

>> he has a book coming out about phil mikelson, 9 drip, drip, drip of publicity. the number that you came up with, over a four year period lost $40 million gambling. we haven't heard from him, spoiler alert, he will deny it i can remember a time, i am old enough, losing $40 million gambling was a lot of money. it was one year removed from the greatest victory of the year,

winning the pga, and had to deal with the fall-out of associating himself with this saudi golf league, lasting and permanent damage, to his legacy. >> good morning, mike, phil mickelson could have made all of that money back if he bet on rich strike. moved to daylight. give us your thoughts, i know you follow the derby for a long time. have you ever seen anything like this? >> my daughter was at the race on saturday. we talked about this jonathan, this is you love sports. books will be written about this

horse. movies will be made about this horse. didn't get in anyone who hasn't looked at the aerial view of the jockey, sony leone. we have all done it. i watched it three, four times, i still don't know how he got to the head of the pack. i am telling you. talking about this for two days, this is why we love sports. this was a once in a hundred year event at churchill downs. >> it was. >> mike lupica, thank you very much. we will end with a look at the daily papers. >> after a few days of calm, strong winds are complicating efforts to fight wild fires in the northeastern part of the state. the largest fire grew to a size

twice as large as philadelphia. after a gruesome april, the city is on track to match or surpass homicides in 2021. reaching a level that city hadn't seen since 1960s. a income of austin families are left in mourning, as city officials decide how to deal with the surge in violence. >> a fight playing out in the millford, ohio school district. "in the time of the butterflies" exposed her child to an unhealthy view of pornography, and impending her religious

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