depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. if it's monday, a newly depleted russian military parades through moscow. as putin tries to justify his war in ukraine. and president biden prepares to sign legislation furthering the u.s.'s involvement in the conflict. plus senator schumer is poised to move for a vote on abortion protections this week after senator mcconnell says a national abortion ban is possible if the supreme court overturns roe v. wade. and battleground politic, we're about to hit a key stretch in midterms. they battle on abortion, immigration and pocketbook issues like soaring inflation and record prices at the gas pump.

welcome to "mtp daily." i'm garrett haake in for chuck todd. as fighting in ukraine intensifies, putin is trying to justify the war he started. president zelenskyy is vowing to win the war and president biden is urging his own officials not to leak information to the media to prevent the u.s. from being completely drawn into the war. in eastern ukraine, officials fear 60 people were killed in an airstrike on a school where people were sheltering in what could be among the deadliest attacks on civilians since the war began more than two months ago. meanwhile, ukrainian officials say all civilians have been evacuated from the steel plant in mariupol where they had been holed up alongside ukrainian troops for weeks. i delaware spite russian claims of victory, the last remaining ukrainian forces continue to hold out in that steel plant. in moscow today, president putin defended his country's invasion during a vem cel brags of

victory day. the celebration of the soviet union's victory over germany. putin made no references to mariupol, and he did not state a declaration of war. in his own address, president zelenskyy compared russia to nazi germany and declared very soon there will be two victory days in ukraine. a senior pentagon official says russia's offensive is somewhat anemic as it deals with issues with logistics as well as moral. and as the u.s. prepares to open its embassy in kyiv, a top american diplomat told nbc news what that signifies to ukraine. >> well, i hope it sends the message that the united states is here. we're behind ukraine. we're working hard as we have been for the past two and a half months to give ukraine everything had t needs to fight the war against russia. >> all of this comes as we learn that the united states maybe more involved in the conflict

than we first thought. as the biden administration tries to tamp down on leaks about how u.s. intelligence has helped ukraiians fight the russians. as "the new york times" columnist wrote, the staggering take away from these leaks is they suggest that we are no longer in an indirect war with russia, but rather are edging toward a direct war and no wasn't has prepared congress for that. in a moment, i'll be joined by a ukrainian member of parliament. but first to korea simmons, in moscow, where the kremlin has been cracking down on media reporting. what was putin's message today and what didn't he say? >> reporter: that's a great question. there's in many ways as much to read into what he didn't say as what he did say. they call it victory day. so president putin calling on

the ast to salute the soldiers who saluted him, the 11,000 that marched through red square, and to salute them for their fighting in ukraine. president putin saying you are fighting for nor motherland, you are fighting for your future, pit putting his case. but at the same time, not saying anything about what his future strategy would be like, not indicating any kind of change of course. in fact, frankly, sounding utterly uncompromising. then as well as those thousands marching through red square and in many cities across russia, they were tanks and ballistic missiles, what there wasn't was the flyover that had been expected of fighter jets ask bombers. the kremlin saying that had been cancelled due to the weather. and what we didn't see were world leaders that joined putin in the past on victory day.

this was a victory day without a victory, but with the promise of a victory to comp. >> what kind of reaction did you see from the russian people to today's event? >> reporter: the polls here suggest that very many russian people do support president putin, as he was nearby to us. those in the audience invited guests, they cheered and clapped. we spoke to one woman who echoed the kinds of things that are being said in ukraine. she said we won in 1945 and we will win again. >> all right, keir simmons in moscow, thank you. i'm joined now by a ukrainian member of parliament, and the chir of the committee on ukraine's immigration into the eu. and first question, did you watch president putin's today? what was your reaction? >> thank you for having me. yes, i did.

because we all were anticipating that he might announce the actual war and stop calling this war that he's fighting a special operation. he didn't do that and my reaction is that he's trying to manipulate the world with his narrative that he he had to do this preemptive strike to protect russia from so-called threat of the west. which is total nonsense. this was a nonprovoked act of aggression with the full-scale invasion that putin has waged against ukrainians, just with only to erase and ukrainian nation from the map of the world and to regain its great power status that he so much craving to have after the soviet union, which he believe was the major geopolitical mistake. >> the buying and selling of

russian energy products has been a big through line of this whole conflict. president zelenskyy spoke to g7 leaders. how important is that step in this fight? >> i really believe that embargoing russian oil and russian gas would mean that finally russia would not be getting money for this terrorist activities on ukrainian soil and for the genocide that it is conducting against ukrainian people on ukrainian land. so therefore, it's very, very important for the european union countries to finally get their grip together. find the ways how to provide for additional oil supplies in the nearest time in order to phase out at least on oil from their dependency on russian energy.

and to step up their efforts in terms of also banning the gas import from the russian federation. that would mean that russia would stop getting billions of euros daily for the war in his fighting against ukraine. >> the g7 is on board, but the eu is talking about a bigger sanctions package. if there's carveouts for hungary or slovakia who are more dependent than the rest of the block to get something done s that something you support. >> i see that the europe union has already offered those carve outs. and unfortunately, hungary has been taking a very stubborn stance and not agreeing even to that. and i'm totally appalled by this position of the hungarian leadership because that means that they are supporting the barbarians that are torturing,

killing our people, raping our women and kids, and destroying our city. so i would hope that there would be adequate arguments found for hungary to agree to those already very privileged conditions under which they would have to phase out of oil buying from russia. >> you have been focused on getting eu membership for ukraine. the european commission president said their goal is to deliver a first opinion on this question in june. do you believe ukraine is ready right now or will be in another month to be an eu country? >> we are talking right now about ukraine being granted the status to the membership and that does not mean we are becoming the member state. after that, we would have to go through additional transformation and serious set of reforms that we would need

assistance with. the at the same time, we also have already gone through quite a long way of transformation with along the road of implementation of the association agreement that they have with the eu and also we are every single day ukrainian armed forces, ukrainian defense, ukrainian society that is defending freedoms and basic values which eu and nato has been have been built on, i think we do deserve the political decision as a ray of light at the end of the tunnel for ukrainian people to understand that our european family, which we belong to, also welcomes us formally in this process on the way to eu membership. >> all the civilians had been evacuated in mariupol. the world has been watching that situation. how concerned are you? what's your understanding of the situation on the ground there in

terms of the fighters that remain, the combat that's continuing? >> russia has been continuously violating rules of engagement and geneva conventions and did not allow to get the bodies of deceased military and civilians to be taken out. and also did not allow for evacuation of the wounded. and it is continuously shelling, pounding that steel plant from the air is also trying to get our defenders through the ground attacks and is not giving up on these efforts. i think the whole world has to be mobilized in order to save those heroes who are defending mariupol in this particular moment, and there are procedures that can be used that there are

precedence in the world where military personnel was saved with engage the of the third party. so let me use this opportunity to call on this em gaugement as well. >> i-va na, a member of ukraine's parliament, thank you for joining us. stay safe. i'm joined onset by lithuania's foreign minister. what was your reaction to what we heard and what we didn't hear from president putin in this victory day speech? where are you expecting him to go farther than he did? >> first of all, i would say that if you watch the faces of putin himself and the generals that were surrounding him and the politicians surrounding him, you did not see smiles of victory that would usually accompany them during these celebrations in the previous years. so i would say that what we're seeing is the generals and politicians who are losing in ukraine. and it's written all over their plac face. >> what did you make of their

push to join the eu? would you be supportive of them taking another step in that direction as soon as june? >> politically, lithuania is always in support of ukraine's membership request. to add to that, recently the poll was done. and lithuaniaen people are the first ones to support ukraine's eu membership. >> why do you think that is? >> i think that throughout history, we felt we were very close. there are a lot of historic events that unites us. to add to that, the fight for freedom is i can say the that almost heart, it's close to us. so so we feel ukraine is fighting not just for ukrainian freedom, but also for our independence.

so many of that has to do with embassy for the ukrainian people. >> talk to me about what you saw, the conversations you had about what you believe they need the most from the rest of the west. >> we see people cleaning up glass, already starting to rebuild the districts around kyiv, which were that they have shelling on the first weeks of war. and i think even though the country is at war, even though we had war for more than two months now, as in nature, spring prevails. and i think this is what ukrainian people are showing. their will is stronger than the war they are in. this is where we can help them. to let them become what to start the spring of ukraine.

>> did officials press you on further sanctions? we know that's been part of the discussions with american officials. they want a continuing more robust sanctions package. it's incredibly important. we didn't manage to be on that in brussels. we'll see how that goes. but to add to that, i think what we need to promise to ukraine, because ukraine itself is quite dependent on russian imports. even now during the war, and we need to help ukraine to decouple itself from the russian energy sources. oil and gas reaches countries and then other countries. so i think helping ukraine become energy from russia would solve europe's problem as well.

>> are you confident that lithuania would be fine with this eu ban on oil from russia? >> absolutely. we were the first country in europe to announce we are absolutely going full independent of russian oil and gas. we did that already a month ago. and we use our decisions as an example that it's possible and the country and the people are okay with that. >> talk about the idea of what this region looks like after this war. would you like to see permanent u.s. military presence either in lithuania? what does the united states need to do to kind of reset whenever this war is over? >> first of all, february 24th changed et region forever. so we consider that russia now clearly shows this has an aggressive intent to its neighbors. so from our standpoint, it fight

might be just a question of time when russia after this war no matter how it ends, will try to reach another country's border. not excludeing nato. and we're very close to where the war is taking place. therefore, we really want to see nato stepping up with our defense guarantees in the baltic countries. we are doing our part. we reached 2.5% of gdp to our defense. that's a considerable amount for a small economy. so we would like to see our alloys stepping up as well. so u.s. presence in lithuania would be appreciated. that would be the right signal to any aggressor outside our borders. >> all right, thank you for being with us. we appreciate your time. up next, the democrats on capitol hill are going on the offensive on abortion. the senate is preparing to vote on a bill that would codify the abortion protections this week. a bill that is expected to fail. then what?

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welcome back. thousands of protesters took to the street this is weekend in more than a dozen cities across the u.s. as the fight over abortion rights heats up. houston and chicago saw some of the largest pro abortion rights demonstrations with smaller crowds in connecticut, detroit and atlanta. hundreds of people on both sides of the issue gathered outside the supreme court on mother's day and thousands more are expected to descend on d.c. for the women's march next weekend. all of this comes as the senate prepares a vote on a bill to codify the results of roe v. wade in the federal law this week. but as it stands right now, that bill is expected to fail. speaking in new york yesterday,

chuck schumer announced his plan to bring the women's health protection act too a vote on wednesday and accused elect the republicans of trying to hide from the issue and said wednesday's vote would allow every american to see how each senator stands. joining me now is a co-sponsor of the act, senator from hawaii, senator, thank you for being with us this bill enshrines into law women's right to an abortion and protects health providers rights to provide those abortion services. but it doesn't have the support it needs to pass in the senate. it's highly unlikely to get to 50 votes. do you agree with the strategy of having a vote on wednesday knowing what you're going to see? >> yes, i do. it's really important for the people of america and especially the women who are going to be impacted by the supreme court decision where each senator stands in terms of protecting a woman's right to control her own body. >> if the failed vote is step one, what's step two, step three

towards actually getting those protections in place where they will be needed? >> what's next is that we need to take it to the polls. as justice alito puts it, all you women out there whose rights we're stripping, you can dpo out and vote. so women are going to have to and those who support a woman's right to choose are going to have to use our energy and resources to win back a right, a constitutionally protected right that we thought we had for almost 50 years. >> you say the next step is to go to the pollings, but there's another possibility out here. there's two republican senators who support abortion rights. one of them is lisa murkowski. she thinks this bill goes too far. i want to read what she said in a statement in february had this bill failed the first time. she wrote, the fact that my choice is between this bill or nothing at all shows how insincere majority leader schumer is about protecting

women's rights. failing to conduct an any outreach is a disservice. i know you don't agree, but is there room for compromise with senator murkowski and collins on some piece of this? >> as far as i knew, poet senators had supported roe. so for all this time, i don't think they took the position that roe went too far. so no, i do not agree with their positions now. >> no room for compromise, no room for a compromised bill here? >> all this bill does is protect a constitutional right that women in this country had for almost 50 years. that's what this bill does. it's hardly what i call radical. >> i want to ask you about speaker pelosi. she just put out a letter this morning talking to her members about how they will talk about this issue. she writes, republicans have made clear their goal would be to criminal loiz abortion.

once they have overturned roe, they will take aim at another rights. this is after mitch mcconnell said that a national ban on abortions wasn't off the table if republicans take back power in november. go you agree with the speaker's outline of the stakes here not just on abortion rights, but on things like marriage equality or access to contraception? >> yes, i do. justice alito in his draft opinion gives privacy rights one of the underpinnings of roe a short rift. so i would say our privacy rights are at issue. that goes for the marital equality act and they have already signalled he would like to revisit that. so there you have it. and mitch mch has already signalled that a nationwide abortion ban will not off the

table. so they are telling us what they are going to do. >> so in light of all that, i guess i would ask if you think the party broadly is doing enough to meet the urgency of this moment. we talked about the vote in the senate. do you need to see more from the white house? does there need to be a four-alarm fire sfons this? >> i view this as very urgent because it is a right. i keep repeating. it's a right women in this country have for almost 50 years. i said on the judiciary committee, and all the republicans talk about is how shocked we are at the leak. they are not shocked that women in this country are going to lose a right they thought they had for 50 years. and what's going to follow, at least one state after this leak, has already passed a law that will make abortion a felony. so what are they going to do? they are going to go after women, after doctors. we are going to create a whole new crime out of this whole

controversy. this is the right to control our own bodies. >> i was in texas anden spent time with beto o'rourke. he said it's not about health care from the republican perspective. it's not even about abortion. it's about control and about power. is that the kind of language you'd like to see democrats using on the stump out in the country as you try to frame this issue as a choice for the voters? >> considering that it is about controlling a woman's body, yes, it is about control. but i look to our candidates to talk about it in a way that makes sense for their constituents. beto talks about it that way. the way i talk about it is the republicans care more abts the leak than protecting a woman's right to control her own body. that is shocking. >> i want to ask you about the rest of the democratic agenda for this congress. we have the reproductive rights bill on wednesday.

build back better has been mostly dead since december. but now joe manchin is expressing interest in passing something before november. we know he's the key player here there's this slimmed down proposal floating around out there. what do you think your party in the senate is most likely to get accomplished now before the midterms? >> if we can get portions of build back better so the richest people can pay their fair share, i'm all for that. that is the biggest accomplish ment of the republicans. was to make sure their friends got over a trillion dollars in tax breaks, so i will take that. but whatever else we can do that will lower the cost of living for people in this country. >> starting with tax reform. that's warm-up music. senator, thank you for talking with us today. >> thank you. and at this hour, we are wait remarks from the president

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welcome back. the race to be one of the first states to vote in the 2024 democratic presidential primaries is officially

underway. and iowa and new hampshire now have a lot of competition. the democrat you can national committee decided to make all the states compete for the chance to be one of the first nominating states. the deadline for state parties to declare where they wanted to vie for this opportunity was on friday. 18 states plus puerto rico and democrats abroad all threw their hats in the ring. democratic establishment is now rethinking the primary schedule after years after criticism that the traditional first states iowa and new hampshire don't reflect what the democratic party actually looks like in terms of demographics or diversity. it also comes after a particularly disastrous iowa caucus in 2020 where it took days to determine a winner. natasha correcty has been following this. clue us into this process and how will democratic leaders make this decision? what are they taking into consideration? >> as you noted, these requests are coming in fast and furious last week.

we had 20 different requests to be first in the nation. one thing to note about the process right now, all these states and territories had to do was send a letter to the dnc saying we're interested. so it's sort of the why not phase. but this is going to be whittled down significantly. by june i expect a lot of states will drop off and not put in their applications and then we'll see this panel from the dnc do their own thing and sort of exclude some of these that are dead on arrival. >> who is serious? i know nevada has been making a lot of noise about moving up. what other states should be we be watching. >> i think nevada and new hampshire, that is going to be the biggest fight. new hampshire is not going to give up easily and nevada is going for first. a lot of these other states just want to be part of the early window. the other area to look at is the midwest. because the writing seems to be

on the wall for iowa. there is an opening in the midwest. you have michigan, illinois, minnesota, nebraska, all of them are trying to be the representation from the midwest. there are certain hurdles for some of them, including michigan that has a republican legislature that would control the primary date. we're going to see lots of battles going on in lots of different dimensions, not only before the dny, but elsewhere. >> you mentioned new hampshire is still in the mix. what about iowa? these states are much older, much whiter than the democratic party sees as their base. are they still trying to make the case here? or is iowa's goose cooked? >> iowa is absolutely saying do not forget us. we have been long part of this process. their argument is, look, the people of iowa take this process so seriously. they really study it. they have all the candidates in their dining rooms. you have heard these stories again and again. iowa is arguing that if you take

them with the other four early states altogether, that is demographically representative of the democratic party. so they are trying to stay in this. and i should say the penalty that the dnc imposed in the past is your delegates goent count if you don't listen to us and refrain from holding your primary. iowa may go ahead and do it any way and risk doing that. risk losing their delegates because it's such a big part of their state economy now for decades. >> with the 30 seconds left, look into your crystal pal. how different will this calendar look? where will i find myself in another january from now? >> we're wishing for puerto rico, but we may end up in new hampshire. we may end up in new hampshire and nevada. we might see a fifth state in the early window too. there's a lot of talk about that. so look for that. >> you didn't mention south carolina, which was so

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welcome back. we're hitting a busy stretch in the primary calendar. tomorrow voters will be voting in nebraska and west virginia both states should tell us some illuminating things about trump's hold on the gop and the trajectory of that party. then next tuesday we have primaries in kentucky and oregon, north carolina, idaho and pennsylvania. a state that could be key to senate control for republicans or democrats in november. the ferment the president was on the ground in western pennsylvania where the rainy

friday night rally backing emmet oz while hammering oz's chief rival david mccormick. more on that in a minute. trump hasn't endorsed in the state's other contests this year. that's the governor's race, but whoever he picks will square off in november with josh schapiro. how the political winds are shifting in pennsylvania politics is going to reverberate through washington in the midterms and probably right into 2024 as well. which is why chuck is hitting the road for two days of special meet the midterms coverage on the ground in pennsylvania here on "mtp daily." that starts tomorrow. he will be speaking with voters, officials, candidates and a lot more. be sure to tune in, politics and gas stations sandwiches are included. that's exciting. my political panel joins me after this short break. stick around. panel joins me after this short break stick around no wayyyy. no waaayyy! no way! [phone ringing] hm. no way! no way!

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dave mccormick is more toomey. the trump bump was enough to propel a cel celebrity candidate out of a crowded field in ohio, but will pennsylvania be a different story? joining me onset is jake sherman, democratic strath strategic wanita tolliver, a political analyst, and matthew continenty, author of the new book "the right." so jake, let's pick up there. the pennsylvania primary, is this another place we'll see donald trump endorse the most famous guy? how is this different than ohio? >> i think there's polling today that has shown that oz is in the lead, but not by that much with 15% undecided, which to me at this point in the race seems quite high. 15% undecided, you have to assume that that is going to sway the race.

by the way, between first and third, not only between first and second, but three candidates in the mix. >> david mccormick is not taking this lying down. i want to play how he respondsed to the president. >> i'm running on president trump's great america first agenda. president trump did a great job for pennsylvania. and i'm running as the person who is battle tested and pennsylvania true and can actually win this primary. win this race, it's going to be the biggest senate race in history. >> so does it matter who the ultimate whose maga is? what do you make of the pushback? >> trump is the arbiter of maga is. do you adopt the agenda? many of the candidates in ohio also adopted the agenda. j.d. vance got the endorsement and he won. but jake is right. that only counted for 8 points when the polls were closed in ohio. we see even a smaller bump right now for oz. i'm keeping my eye on kathy

barnett. she's out there. she's not mccormick or oz. in the latest polling, which leans conservative, she's in third place. >> the rest of the field in pennsylvania on the republican side is much stronger than the rest of the field in ohio. the rest of the field is stronger on the democratic side too. john fedorman seems to have a comfortable lead here. what do you make of the campaign he's running and his disz on cohn senator as a student of joe manchin? now joe manchin is the boogie man in a democratic primary. >> i feel like manchin is going to play the villain for these primaies, but that ends in the generals. the other thing i will say about fedorman, is he got a bump up to 53. but that same poll said 51% of voter who is had a preference said their mind could still be changed, so it's not a done deal. there's still some ground to make up with the voters who could be swayed still. he needs to stay out there. >> he's this bernie avatar.

but he's such a unique figure. my theory has been that he could maybe go a little bit against the prevailing direction these miss terms go because he's a unique guy. >> i think that's right. i generally tend to be biassed that in a year that's supposed to be good for republicans, in a state that has been trending red generally speaking, is going to stay red. i don't know the answer to that. i just tend to think that. i could be very, very wrong. dr. oz is far from a traditional candidate, i would say. and i think that fedorman is a unique candidate who can play a lot of different roles in a general election. i could be wrong there. it will be really interesting. >> i shake my head no -- >> you did it kindly too. >> i will smile always.

but the thing about oz is you have republican county chairs coming out so vocally against him saying trump's reign in pennsylvania is over because of this endorsement. and that is going to be something that either leads to republicans staying home, which gives democrats an advantage in a general if oz does emerge from the republican primary, and creating additional blowback. ry creating additional blowback >> the republican candidate is going to screw up. pennsylvania one that depends on who the gop nominates. >> i want ask you while you have the floor about donald trump's reaction to the abortion news from last week, which is basically been silence. >> i have been following it carefully. >> it's something that he ran on. he appointed three of these justices. if this is what it appears to be, he can claim as much credit as anybody and i have never

known donald trump to pass up an opportunity to claim credit for something. what's going on here? something. what's going on here they are going to say there are five votes in february. but until it's officially released, we'll see and they don't have not about life. this is about control. it's about furthering their authoritarian mandate, which they have been running on. democrats have to tie this to that broader frame. this is the same as the efforts to censor black history being taught in the school. this is the same as attacks on lgbtq people and children. and looping in abortion into that same frame is going to carry this message. >> trump will own it if it's official. >> no benefit to trump for 2022.

he wants to own it for himself. >> the pro life movement is part of his movement. it's part of the republican party. he's going to need to rally that base in '22 and '24. it's a case of him waiting and see. it's a case of him waiting and see. >> but remember donald trump was pro choice. for most of his remember donalds pro choice for most of hi if they're going do this, just wait until you do next. pelosi just put out an hour about that and said that to her democratic lawmakers, we need to fight on this because, a, it's not over and, b, we don't know what's next. >> you're not as comfortable with supreme court politics. what do you make of the schumer strategy to put this women's health protection act on the floor againro knowing he doesn' haveoo the votes to pass it?

>> he has no choice. he really has no choice. he hasll to fight the good figh. the vast majority of democrats want to codify roe v. wade. joe manchin is not for this piece of legislation. there are not the votes to codify. >> casey may not be either. we n haven't heard from him directly on this. they don't really have many places to go right r now. the house passed it, senate can't passpa it. they're going to have to just throw up their arms and continue to talk about it. >> when i interviewed maisie hirono earlier in the show, she said that'sn step one, step tw is take it to the polls. i want to playe part of an add that maggie hassan is running online about thisha issue. take a listen. >> three men, one agenda. fulfilling mitch o'connell's decades-long crusade to

criminalize abortion. they all supported new hampshire's abortion ban and now with roe v. wade on the verge of being . overturned, these three menov and their one agenda mean woman's fundamental rights, our freedoms hang in the balance. >> no punches pulled there. do you think that is something we'll, a, see more of or, b, be effective? >> it's going to be something we see more of. i appreciate she also named he o'connell in there with him talking about a federal ban on abortion. this isfe not going to stop, especially when the republicans have dedicated decades to take away d these rights from anyone with a uterus. i want democrats continue to illustratenu what day-to-day li will look like. people don't have money to go

thousands of miles for an abortion and they don't have child care. >> t are we going to see them wd rather see them talk about inflation, the issues use of what brought them to the cusp -- do you want to have that fight or do you want to stick with what got you as close as you apparently are? >> i think candidates have to be ready to answer the question in the new politics of abortion in this country and they should be able to make their positions known withir clarity and with fluency. some won't be able it do it but others will. we're talking about the pro-choice base and there's also a pro-life base. if you want a chance to recapture congress. the republicans can't shy away from this issue. they also need to recognize as the current polling shows, the

most important issue facing the electorate is inflation, inflation, inflation. >> s jake, are you looking at f who the next todd akin is? >> these are things like ek top ek topic pregnancies. >> so a lot of people will have to get real smart real fast. we have to go. jake, juanita, jack, thanks for joining us. we continue with katy tur after this break. we continue with katy tur after this break they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. although uncommon,

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