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imminent threat to odessa from russian ground forces or ships off the coast. intense fighting rages at the steel plant in mariupol. where day after day ukrainian forces manage to hold off the russian assault. the city's mayor said russia continues to hit the plant with heavy weaponry. but that attempts to storm the plants have been unsuccessful so far. and he also said there is about 100 civilians inside despite the fact that russian and ukraine officials have previously said all of them had been evacuated. so that news has changed in the first three hours of our show. yet while russia now has nearly 100,000 troops fighting in the eastern donbas region of ukraine, they have not been able to make any significant progress. that is according to the pentagon. where officials say russia has been hampered by bad weather and logistics issues, which has hurt them throughout the war. "the new york times" points out
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that russian war planes haven't been able to gain air superiority despite flying 200 to 300 missions aa day. and russian units are suffering from major morale and discipline problems. a top u.s. official tells "the washington post," they believe that middle rank russian military officers uks, some as high up as battalion commanders are slow in carrying out orders or refusing them altogether. >> a really terrible sign for the russians. and it shows once again just how rotten the culture is, the russian military. let's bring in right now former president of ukraine petro poroshenko. thank you for being with us. it seems when you hear the news out of the donbas and the news out of odessa, you put it together and it seems like more of the same. the russians targeting children,
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grandparents, mothers, other civilians. but not being able to do a damn thing on the ground when they actual i have to fight a war. where does this war stand right now, the day after victory day? >> first of all, i want to say that the victory day itself is a very bright demonstration that we live together, we live with putin in a different universe. putin lives in the universe with fighting and not any more with ukrainian battalion or armed forces, and in our reality nato is created only for defense purposes. putin is fighting his own land in his universe and we are protecting and defending our soil, our children, our women, and our parents. and with that situation
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definitely we think that this is unacceptable even to anna liez what putin would do. but we have a very positive case that despite the expectation of some experts, putin does not declare mobilization, no change, especially military operation to the war. even with his crazy perception understand that that would be absolutely cruel scenario for the russian people itself. and instead of their parade of victory, he has a marshal defeat. he has absolutely weak speech and with this situation seeing that he has a very low moral level. with the situation with what is going on now, ukrainian forces killed more than 26,000 russian soldiers. we are not giving them any -- to
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demonstrate any progress neither near odesa, you know we hit it already by our cruise missiles and several ships. know in mykolaiv where we turn back just a couple of days ago and our battalion is staying there on the border between mykolaiv and not allowing putin to go further and we reun the the putin plan to capture the administrative border of the region and make a counter attack in kharkiv region. so ukrainian forces could surprise the world. >> the ukrainian people of course and the ukrainian forces have shown remarkable courage. they are as so many ukrainians have said, they're not just fighting for ukrainian freedom, but fighting for freedom of the west, fighting for freedom of
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western democracy. and there are so many millions of and millions of americans, millions and millions of europeans have been so inspired by that. that is why i was shocked yesterday and would you love to get your response to the president of france's comments that ukraine could be years away from joining the e.u. when i know the americans, i know the head of the e.u., i know so many other europeans want to fast track. what do you say to the president of france? >> first of all, let me thank you for the historic decision which is happening yesterday night when president biden, which i know very well, which we worked together for five years when i created the new armed forces of ukraine, signed the land lease act. everything from nutrition to ammunition and we have a special
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call for the congress to support the bill for $40 billion. and i think that that will be very good example when some nato member states again repeat the same action on their parliament, the land lease to supply everything from nutrition to ammunition because you are absolutely right, we fight here for the global freedom, for the global security, and simply help us to help you. and the european union and for the leaders, i know what it does mean the special structure. it is my signature on the the association agreement with the european union for ukraine and for ukraine, the deep and comprehensive trade agreement for ukraine. we don't need any structure. i just want to remind, the year
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2008 when the united states supported our future membership in nato. and it was in bucharest and if in the 2008 we have a membership action plan for nato and if we will be a nato member state in 2013, definitely it would be no aggression in crimea or in donbas or full fledged war and please do not repeat mistake of 2008. >> mr. president, ukraine's foreign minister said that as the russian advance stalls, his country sees a growing opportunity, ukraine, to push russian forces out of ukraine entirely. dim eat raw cales told this to the financial times. if we're strong enough on the military front and we win the battle donbas which is crucial for the war, of course the
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victory will be the liberation of the rest of our territories. he also said ukraine's success will depend in large part on whether the west will continue to supply heavy weaponry in a timely manner. so, number one, is the strategy, do you agree with the foreign minister, to push russia completely out? >> first of all, while my presidency, and all of the time after, in all 76 days of the war, i said that the territorial integrity, independence of the country is not the subject of compromise. this is the same, like somebody in the united states proposed to give to russia alaska or to give some some european state their territory, this is not the case. we cannot create the precedent
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whereby force some crazy maniac could change the global borders of the post war world. and we definitely wanted peace. but everybody should understand that the more weapons we receive, the shorter it would be the way to the peace because this is the new supply for the american weapons, for the nato weapons. this is the game-changer. can't even imagine that now the future of world is from, i don't know, 4 or 500 tanks from one thousand personal carriers or howitzer or 100 jet fighters and for 300 anti-aircraft, we don't need soldiers. ukraine is staying in line to be listed in the armed forces and we demonstrate that we now have a definitely great results and putin fights on a descending
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arsenal. after the signing of the land lease, ukraine on the increasing arsenal and we definitely have no doubt, never give up and the key negotiator on the peace talks with russia is ukrainian armed forces. the ukrainian soldiers give us opportunity to be closer to peace. >> all right, former president of ukraine, petro poroshenko, thank you very much for being with us once again. and the british defense ministry is out with a scathing indictment of russia's war plan, essentially saying it was doomed from the start. it reads in part, quote, russia's invasion plan is highly likely to have been based on the mistaken assumption that it would encounter limited resistance and would be able to encircle and bypass population centers rapidly. this assumption led russian forces to attempt to carry out
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the opening phase of the operation with a light, precise, approach intended to achieve a rapid victory with minimal cost. it is best case scenario planning have led to demonstrable operational failings and as well as unsustainable loss and a subsequent reduction in russia's operational focus. let's bring in analyst for nbc news and msnbc clint watts who is standing by at the bigs with the maps and retired lieutenant general ben hodgess from the u.s. army in europe and now the pershing chair in strategic studies at the center for european policy analysis. >> we're going to get to clint in one second. but general i would love for you to follow up on the british analysis of the failures of the russian military, of course they have made one miscalculation after another but it doesn't
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help that they've got a rotten culture in the russian military. it is like admiral stavridis said, i'm sure you're in situations where you may have not gone in with the best strategy but your guys and women know basic blocking and tackling and knew how to do the basics right from the ground up. and that is in the end is what really makes all of the difference in the world, doesn't it? >> yeah, joe, you're exactly right. it is those sergeants that has the secret sauce that we have that are able to solve problems and then fix things and help mike sure that the young women and men are doing their job. if you would allow me one slight deviation. after listening to president poroshenko, who i've known for years, compare to what he said and the speech of president zelenskyy to the whiney, downcast rotten presentation by
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the president of the russian federation, this is what putin is scared of. in ukraine, this is two democratically elected ukrainian presidents in a row and they want to join the west. they want to be in the e.u. compare that so what we heard yesterday from red square. that is why ukraine is going to win. now, the british intelligence i think has done a superb job from start to finish here. their numbers are the ones that i trust the most in terms of what has been destroyed and enemy soldiers killed, et cetera. my sense is that the russians are going to culminate this summer. there is nothing else. there is not more siberian divisions waiting to come in like happened in 1943 and '44. there is nothing else. the combination of sanctions to nation's resistance, the unity of the alliance and the e.u., imperfect as it is, all of these things combined and now we're -- it feels like we're on the front
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end of finally all of this aid really starting to kick in and i honestly think that we're going to achieve at least the first part of victory which is russians backed to the february 23 line by the end of the summer. >> so clint watts, catch us up on the very latest. you heard the general saying it seems like the weaponry from the west really is now in the pipeline, and it is starting to really show its full effect on the battlefield. get us up to date with where we are today. >> joe, this is that initial planned just a disaster when you look at this now in terms of the whole north, taken back by the ukrainian military, everything here now focused in the east. the plan right now from what the russians seem to be doing is organizing here in bell go rod for this access here down to izyum. this is a stalled front. these fingers that you see
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sticking off here in multi-color, those are recognizance probes. they use those to find the ukrainian front lines to bring in indirect fire and missile strikes. but they're going to run out of that munitions, they're moving increasingly to just broad based fires and different from the beginning of the war, the ukrainian military now has counter battery, now has artillery coming in and ammunition coming in, we've talked a lot about the logistics involved in this fight. it is going to boil down to this area right here. the russians are pushing on multiple fronts. they made some small gains here. they continue to probe here but are not making significant advances. not enough to push through. and here and here they're also pushing through. their goal is to envelop and i think the conversation for me today is really about man power. why do people fight. they have to believe in the
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mission. they have to believe in the plan, they have to believe in their leaders and the people that their fighting with. russia is 0 for 4 in the east. they've watched the leaders get killed out in the open fieldings. people that their fighting with, these are conscripts coming in and in terms of the plan it was a disaster from the start and they were told nothing but disinformation from the beginning about why they were coming there to fight. nazis. guess what they've been on the ground for two to three months they're not finding too many nazis. they're finding ukrainians who are defending their people. you look at the ukrainian military, they are 4 for 4. they believe in the mission. they have good plan. what have they done? they've seen their leaders emerge and they love the people they are fighting with and they have foreign fighters joining them. so add in the logistics and the weaponry that the ukrainian military didn't have on day one and now what they have on day 65 to 90, it is really impressive what they're going to be able to do. >> clint, two quick parts for you. as part of the slow russian
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advance, is this the impact of the famed ukraine muddy season, it is just tough to get the tanks going and secondly we talked last week about shall we say the surprising and growing number of explosions happening across the border in russia. what is the latest there on the potential ukraine counter offenses? >> what is fascinating is this is a cross border battle at this point. two things to think about. the money ceasing is coming an end. this is when we thought russians might have waited post-muddy season. and in all of the fronts here, they can't get off the roads. but the ability to do that will expand. the bigger problem is they cannot maneuver and not employing aircraft just like we're hearing about russian sorties, up to 200 a day, they are not sink with the ground maneuver. and i think the ukrainians now around kharkiv, this perimeter, they have pushed many kilometers to the east. this puts them in direct fire or
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targeting range inside of russia. we've seen helicopters hit in bellgorod and so they're no longer secure inside of russia the way they were when they started the invasion. >> so, general, tell me, we looked yesterday of course at the victory day event and it was, again, in moscow, of course one of the most sacred days for russians. and yet it was bizarre on many, many fronts. i'm just curious, where was the head general, where were some of the other people that were supposed to be fighting this war? you would have expected them to be with putin? >> yeah, two big no-shows as far as i could tell, general garres, he's a officer responsible for all of this.
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not there. and then foreign minister lavrov also did not see him or certainly was not captured in my of the pictures standing behind the president or in any of the other key scenes which was i thought was very unusual. and from the cold war days, it was always watch who is up on the stand and so not seeing them, in fact as my wife spotted it first, how come we haven't seen grassenoff. and there are reports that he's been wounded. but it could also be that, you know, he's being eased off the stage. otherwise they could have wheeled him out. a wounded soldier at the front fighting against nazis -- but instead no -- and i like there is a lot of rotten inside of that regime. >> and the question is general, who is left that is close to
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vladimir putin? we've seen him strike out against his military. we've been hearing over the past month that he and lavrov have had a distance between them. it is growing distance between them. and even the intel division, he's of course come down harshly on members from his own intelligence community. so who in the world is remaining to be seen? and i love how you bring it i would always look at polit bureau where they were lined up on this day to try to figure out who was in power, who was slipping out of favor with whether it was breshneff or someone else, but this seems to be an autocracy of one, doesn't it. >> all of the visuals, we don't know what happen behind the walls, but the visuals are an isolated guy.
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and so you don't know who is helping him make decisions. medvedev was there. he was standing behind him. and his spokesperson peskov was there and you have to hope is that the people behind them are saying, mr. president, there will be life after you. so there is no value in using a nuclear weapon. >> all right. retired lieutenant general ben hodges and clint watts, thank you both very much for your analysis. and coming up this hour on "morning joe," president biden today will address inflation and the state of the economy as gas prices hit an all-time high. we'll talk to one of his top economic advisers cecilia rouse about what to expect. plus a disturbing new report about the growing mental health crisis among teens. and now how hospitals across the country are failing them. >> and this is been a growing problem. this is been a long investigation.
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and mika, it is something that we've heard from our friends that are -- that are doctors. >> we've seen it. >> that are doctors that are seeing that teens are being thrown into emergency rooms to sleep because there are no facilities, no beds to take care of them. >> we'll speak to the author of this remarkable year-long investigation. and the manhunt for an escaped inmate and the corrections officer who helped him escape comes to a violent end. it is one of the stories leading headlines across the country. morning joe will be right back. e our hair a lot my hair i curl it. i have to use a lot of heat new dove hair therapy shampoo & conditioner with ceramide & peptide. it nourishes at a cellular level to rescue damaged hair. discover 10 x stronger hair with new dove hair therapy rescue and protect.
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4,000 points for the first time in over a year. it comes just hours before president biden's major speech about inflation. biden is expected to contrast his plans to lower costs with what the white house is calling republicans' ultra maga plan which democrats have criticized for going after social security, medicare and medicaid. >> also they want to tax the working class because they don't think the working class is paying their fair share. >> there is that. joining us now from the white house, the chair of the president's council of economic adviser, cecilia rouse, good to have you with us. >> thank you so much for being with us. we find out tomorrow what cpi numbers are. how bad do you all expect inflation to be in april? >> look, i have -- i'm not going to guess. that is a forecast. but what we know is that we're
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facing a period of elevated prices. we usually focus on two measures. there is the headline inflation which includes volatile gas and energy prices and food prices and core inflation which is what the federal reserve is more focused on. gas prices were lower last month and they have come back and that is why it is volatile. we'll see what numbers are. but obviously we're focused on inflation. the president is very focused on it. which is why he's addressing the nation today to lay out his understanding and his focus on ways to try to address it. the first it by trying to address gas prices and energy prices, by releasing from the strategic petroleum reserve in coordination with our partners around the world, encouraging gas and oil companies to use their leases and improve their drilling so we have more oil supply and gas supply on the market. he also wants to lower cost for families. health care costs, particularly prescription costs, childcare, housing because we know that by
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easing those costs and making it easier for families to balance work and family, we could improve economic growth in a sustainable way going forward. and finally he wants to do this by reducing the deficit. so it was reduced by $300 billion last year by his watch and his plan on this year we're on track to reduce it by another $1.5 trillion and by raising taxes on the healthiest individuals an corporations. he will contrast that with the republicans which you mentioned in your header, want to do so by raising taxes on the 95% or so households that make less than $100,000 in contrast to the president who won't go near the taxes for those making less than $400,000. so that is an important contrast but he's focused on this every day. >> i guess the question, even if he's focused on it and if he does everything that he could do, everything that a president could do, at end of the day we have three massive factors that have driven this. $2 trillion kept on the sidelines during covid.
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as covid eases, people have gotten out and spent a lot of money. you have the war in ukraine, that is obviously driven gas prices up even higher. and then of course you have china's just crazy covid policy that is going to screw up the supply chain for months, maybe years to come. really at the end of day, this is window dressing, can this president or any president do anything about inflation with those outside sort of macro influences on the economy? >> yeah, you're right, just to find the challenges over the last two years, fundamentally our economy has been a severely effected by the pandemic. the president since he's been in office has been focused on helping us get through the pandemic in a way that is safe, by getting shot news arms and helping households and household balance sheets as you pointed out and pay the rent and pay the bills and helping state and local governments. the federal reserve was doing
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its bit to stabilize financial markets but as you've pointed out, we're not through this yet. china's covid policy threatened supply chain and the war in ukraine is not helpful so we understand these are challenging times. the good news is that we come at this from a position of relative strength. we have the fastest growth last year at 5.5%. which gives us some cushion with further head winds. the federal reserve whose dual mandate is full employment as chair powell has been articulating. they're on it. the president would urge congress to confirm his nominees so they have a full slate to address the important issues. but the president also wants to do what he can on the fiscal side. so i don't want to call it window dressing because it is all hands on deck and all of these efforts make a difference. and importantly they will address inflation in the short-term, but also generate an economy that can have faster growth, that is more sustainable and that is more widely shared
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going forward as well. >> cecilia, good morning, it is jonathan lemire. housing also surging. want to get the white house concerns about whether they're overheating and what could happen next? >> so, housing is a big concern of the president and has been since the beginning. if you look at his budget, he's got proposals for increasing housing supply. this dates back to the financial crisis in the great recession. so we've had a supply challenge for sometime. if you've notice the federal reserve, part of the immediate impact of their actions to address price stability is increasing mortgage rates. that will have some cooling impact. but the president understands that in particularly rental housing, we need to see increased supply as which is why he's proposing ways that we could do so going forward. >> all right. chair of president biden's council on economic advisers, cecilia rouse, thank you for
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being with us. we greetly appreciate it. and let's bring in from "the new york times" and co-anchor of squawk box, andrew ross sorkin. i say when things are going bad and sitting there going in there is nothing i could do, just don't stand there. do something. let people know that you care. and even if you can't do a whole lot, do something, right. so, joe biden is doing something. but at the end of day, andrew, you're the expert here, post-covid, with his $2 trillion flooding back into the economy, with all of the covid relief bills that republicans and democrats poured into the economy over the past couple of years, with china's crazed covid policy that is screwing up the supply chain with russia's war that is driving up oil prices, what president can do anything
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in this situation? what president? what could he do? >> you're asking the right question and conundrum and the political conundrum is i'm not sure there is an answer. it is a rhetorical question to some degree. >> it is a rhetorical question. >> there is not much that could be done there. which is to say unless you can fix the supply issue which is taking much longer than anybody thought. and she just talked about housing. you could fix housing over many, many years. and in terms of supply of housing. can you fix the supply chains in other places? yes. but that will take time. but it is very hard to come on national television right now and say, look, we want housing prices to go down. not up. or at least definitely not to continue going up. we want to make people frankly to some degree poorer in the stock market so there is less of a wealth effect in the system. these are things you can't say aloud, but internally that is
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what you want if you -- and then how do you sell that to the public? it is almost an impossible task. >> yeah, and the markets are going up this morning. it looks like we're getting a bit of a bounce, aren't we? >> we are getting a little bit of a bounce and there is a sense at least temporarily and i don't want to say it is long-term, but there is a sense among some investors that so much has been thrown out over the past couple of weeks now that maybe there is a bottom feeder who think there may be some opportunities, things that have gotten pulled in this and dragged down that maybe didn't deserve to. so people are starting to pick at things. the pendulum swings too far in different directions. whether it is truly a bottom, hard to know. >> cnbc's andrew ross sorkin. not sure what you did this morning but we appreciate it. >> what he does every day. he provides critical insight into thinks we know very little about. >> what do you want me to tell
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slam. until now! there he is. >> unbelievable. of course we have "morning joe" for you on the west coast, just waking up, we talk about west coast baseball for four hours straight. that is otani. last night with the second home run of the season. the first grand slam of his career. the rangels beat the rays 11-3 to remain on top of the a.l. west. and just on fire and then in a performance in chicago that no one in baseball has ever seen before. josh naylor of the cleveland guardians now the only player since rbis starting getting counted in 1920, to knock at least 8 runs from the 8th inning on, that is right, 8 rbis. in the 8th pairing with a game tieing grand slam and a deciding
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3-1 blast in the 11th. the powered naylor's cleveland guardians to a 12-9 victory over the white sox. this guy, hot as a texas tamale and in texas, as dan rather might say. he's the first player ever with multiple three-run home runs in the 9th inning or later in a single game. now before we go to the morning papers. jonathan lemire, just i've never seen anything like this before. you know why, because nothing like this before has ever happened. but let me just give you a minute before we go to the morning papers to talk about your celtics. >> oh, thank you for that. first of all, shohei otani, must-see tv every time he plays. the celtics, it is a hard fought series with the bucks and they won last night on the road and they tied the series 2-2.
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and giannis is either committing a foul or being fouled and it is up to the ref. that led to shall we say some frustration in my house in the first half. my boys and i didn't take too kindly to some of the calls and non-calls that were being done last night. but there is al horford turning the tide. that dunk tied the game early 4th. he was wonderful. this was a hard fought game. these two teams played great defense. it is now tied and it is the best of three with the celtics got two at home. so let's hope for the best. but the bucks are a proud defending champion and wouldn't be easy to beat. >> now to a look at morning papers. in alabama the montgomery advertiser details how escaped alabama inmate casey white and the corrections officer who helped him escape vicki white were caught in indiana yesterday after a week long manhunt. the two led u.s. marshals on a
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car chase that ended in a violent crash after being spotted at an indiana motel. officers took casey white back into custody while vicki white died of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. the bellingham harold reports residents of washington state now pay more for gas than most of the country. the state's average reached $4.81 and is helping fuel a demand for electric vehicles. in texas, the waco tribune herald reports that greg abbott and state lawmakers have shifted $1 billion to pay for law enforcement at the u.s./mexico border. it comes after abbott made a pledge to arrest everyone who crossed the border illegally. critics say money could have been used to address the public health crisis that has killed more than 86,000 people across
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the state. to nebraska now where the polls open just a few minutes ago. the lincoln journal star highlights a race that has captured national attention and former president trump got involved. he's thrown his support behind charles herbster, an agricultural executive who has been accused of sexually assaulting multiple women but has denied the allegations. he's facing off against university of nebraska jim pillan and three other candidates. and the des moines register featured a front page story on new vision for the iconic field ever dreams. their raising $50 million to construct a permanent stadium around the major league diamond to house a professional game. the 3,000 seat stadium is on top of another plan to build youth baseball and sofd ball fields on the field where the movie was
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filmed. >> i want to see a game out there, my kids and i would be fantastic. and in the nba, on the west coast which we stayed up and watched, golden state beat the grizzlies and now lead the series 3-1. >> up next on "morning joe," a new report reveals how hospitals are struggling to keep up with the surge of mental health issues among teens and why a lot of the pressure has fallen on emergency room doctors. we'll talk to a journalist behind that incredible year-long investigation. we're back in just a moment. ready to style in just one step? introducing new tresemme one step stylers. five professional benefits. one simple step. totally effortless. styling has never been easier. tresemme. do it with style. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala reduces asthma attacks it's a once-monthly add-on treatment
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growing teen mental health crisis with part one, telling the story of g, a 15-year-old girl rushed to the er at boston children's hospital with marks on both wrists from self harm and recent suicide attempt. a month-long effort to get her into a mental health facility. her story is the norm, not the exception. teenagers who pose a risk to themselves they have no where else to go. even as the crisis out patient treatment have eroded sharply.
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mental health, joining us now. who spent more than a year interviewing teenagers and their families, new york times reporter, and dr. sue varmer, a board certified psychiatrist, at the nyu medical center. >> such an important story to tell. we have friends that are in the mental health practice, and they have been telling us for quite some time, we ask from time to time, how are things going? it is a sad story every day. we don't have enough beds. despite expanding the beds we have, we have parents coming to us, desperate with children with children who are suicidal. all we can do is send them to
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emergency rooms, sometimes, kids stay there two, three weeks. we have been hearing it for years now. how did the situation get that bad? >> thanks for having me, and i appreciate you highlighting this issue. as someone who has been covering this for a year, this particular issue stands out. the idea that between hundreds and up to 5,000 young people are spending the night in hospitals every night. because they are suicidal, too aggressive to go home, no where else to go. how did we get here? we lost 30% of the residential inpatient beds between 2012 and 2020, at the time we saw a surge of an site, depression, suicide, you put those ideas together,
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you have no where for the young people to go. >> where did we lose 30% of the beds? >> this winds up being a by-product of something well-intentioned. the idea was to get rid of congregate settings, where you have a bunch of people living away from home. in an effort to reduce those beds, it was to go with community settings and things that didn't materialize. the switch over didn't happen and the rolls of mental health cases did. >> you know, we started describing this as the collapse of america's mental health infrastructure. i argue that infrastructure wasn't there in the first place. we can talk about that another day. putting together what is going on with america's teenagers.
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it could be described as an epidemic. the rise over the 15, 10 years of phone use, texting, rather than talking face to face, the social changes, pulling them apart. and having them have access to things earlier than expected. the rise in social media. kids bully each other, change the way they look, or give each other outside ideas of how they are supposed to look. lots of data how that created depressive behavior, suicidal ideagsz among approximate teen-aged girls, i don't think there is an infrastructure ever in place for a situation like this. then you had covid. >> you add covid. if i had to describe all of this
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in one word, i would say loneliness. it is not just how many people you have in your social circle, it is if you feel seen, heard by them. when you have teenagers, as you said, they are getting a lot less exercise, the connections are super official cotton candy junk food type of connections, and the highlight is on comparison. more time spent on social media, is downward comparisons. there is the idea of inspiration one can get, there is a mental health tick tock on this more
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people get community access, the name of the game is prevention. and main streaming metropolitanal health. never seen as part of the primary care system, only in the last few years, it becomes a must. want just the growth, high, referrals provided in the pediatrician office, so we don't burden the structure we have to begin with. >> picking up oech something the doctor said, decreasing the reimbursement rates. good people aren't coming in
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even if you have that calling in your heart, when are you dealing with these children, and young adolescents and young adults, the insurance companies lower reinl bursements, i could. >> in there, but i can't provide for my family. how do we make the best and the brightest go into the field? >> since it is my first time on, can i point to something about social media important to bring up. off road for a second? >> here is the thing. yes, there are huge weights for the therapists, under paid, in a lot of cases, as things have gone virtual, people don't want to go into the in patient, it is
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vital to off road for a second, to the point about social media. look at the first story in the series. or just to look at the research. the social media question is far too complicated to be summarized as this is a social media issue. what appears to be much more material here, is that a change in lifestyle shifted the risks that adolescents face. when i was a young person, the 1980s in colorado, public health woried about drunk driving, teen-aged pregnancy. we now worry about mental health and sussuede. loss of sleep, loss of being together, loss of exercise. it is not pinned on social media. i feel duty bhound to mention
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that significant nuance. >> important. >> i feel like we just scratched the surface here. we will want you to come back and follow your work in this series for the "new york times." the author of the brand new book called "inspired." a journey of art, science and the soul. and hope you would both come back. that does it for us this morning. jose picks up the coverage right now. >> good morning, later this morning, president biden is set to address rising inflation as american families struggle to pay for everything from gas to baby formula. breaking this a critical ukrainian city off the coast of the black sea is being pounded by russian missiles, we talk to a
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