>> -- as a conservative that was not a fan of donald trump, we create a void, that allows people, demagogues, strong men like donald trump to step into. that is why when donald trump was president, we talked about madison constitution and checks and balances. that is my fear. not just from the right. but from whom ever. demagogs, if there is a valueless void and we're afraid to go back and connect with the greatest part of our history in the west, then demagogues could ransack that system. >> and they'll be able to tell you anything they like. and i give the example in the book of abraham lincoln, he used to be agreed upon as american hero. he was an extraordinary story apart from anything else of somebody coming from absolutely nothing and rising to the top position in the land. why has this era decided that it

allows mobster tear down statues of lincoln and for the authorities to remove statues of lincoln preemptively. if you can't look up to lincoln, of course you have this void. anyone could step into a void this big. as i say, if we get the past into some kind of proper light, we could do the future better. if we just leave it empty, anything can happen. >> finally i want -- because you talk about the lack of context, a lack of understanding historically, i just i read your book and i'm reminded though of a lot of things that i've read, whether it was from harold bloom in the western cannon or the closing of the american mind and i want to read this quote to you. it's from his 1987 book "the closing of the american mind", this is what allen moon discussed on the changing perceptions of the founding fathers. he said radicals succeeded in

promoting a popular conviction that the founding was an the american principles are racist. thus, openness is driven out the local deities leaving only the speechless and meaningless country. there is no immediate sense you'll experience of the nation's meaning or its project. which would provide the basis for adult reflection on regimes and statesmanship. students now arrive at university ignorant and cynical about our political heritage, lacking the wherewithal to be inspired by it or seriously critical of it. douglas, that sounds familiar. this find that has been going on for sometime. >> horribly familiar. alan bloom was diagnosing in the 1980 what was wrong in the campuses. we all live on campus now. you know, the ideas that gestate on campus spill out very fast these days and we all live in that period of being cynical. as i say in the war in the west, every child could be told the

things that they could attack, feel superior to the past about. but can we honestly say that in america this day that it is a possibility of speaking without the cynicism on the campuses has just spilled out everywhere and it is uncharitable and unkind and wildly self-destructive. >> and as i say, all of the time, i believe in american exceptionalism and in the genius and the west. we need to hold the two truths together. whether it is rateism, slavery, colonialism, we have to dress them head on but always in perspective. all right, the book "the war in the west", douglas murray. thank you for being with us, it is a great pleasure. >> thank you. >> we're into the fourth hour of "morning joe." just past 9:00 a.m. in the east and 6:00 a.m. out west. we have a lot to get to this

hour. president biden delivering remarks to kick off the second global covid summit, a virtual event hosted by the white house. the president is expected to speak about the 1 million american lives lost to covid-19. also a bill to protect abortion rights is defeated in the senate. what is next for this highly contentious issue. and will democrats be able to harness the fury from their base in time for the midterms. and plus the latest from the war in ukraine where there is talk of another russian annexation. the use of hyper sonic missiles and a major development from overnight from finland. >> let's start the hour at the white house where we find chief white house correspondent co-host of weekend today, peter alexander. good to see you. so let's talk about this covid summit. an issue now a year and a half almost into his presidency that is still is front and center for president biden. >> yeah, willie, that is exactly

right. the president this morning commemorated the loss of 1 million lives in the united states to covid saying that our country has been changed forever as a result of it. acknowledging the pain that so many families with dealing with. and we'll hear from him when he delivers prerecorded remarks rolling any time at the start of the second global covid summit, the u.s. hosting this event alongside germany, indonesia and senegal and it is an opportunity we're told by white house officials for the president to try to push congress again to deliver on the $22 billion he's been requesting going forward to help with treating this disease, treatments with vaccinations, with testing going forward, the white house and other officials say as these omicron strains, these variants continue to develop right now, there is a real fear if that funding doesn't continue, if these resources aren't there, there

could be another punishing wave this fall. officials telling us the priorities of the summit is to prevent complacency and deaths and prevent future pandemics going forward. but as for today's commemoration, we're told momentarily there will be a presidential proclamation. president biden calling, ordering the flags to be flown at half-staff here at the white house and at federal buildings around the country. and the president overnight released the following, we must not grow numb to such sorry to heal. we must remember and remain vigilant against this pandemic and do everything that we can to save as many lives as possible. notably, this is say much more sort of somber commemoration from this white house. it was january 19th of 2021 when then vice president elect and president-elect kamala harris and joe biden gathered together at the reflecting pools with the 400 lights, and today a low key

event as they commemorate 1 million lives lost. >> peter alexander, starting off the fourth hour live at the white house. thank you very much. we had dr. deborah birx on and we remembered that moment, march 31, 2020 and when she and president trump said if we don't do something about this, we could hit 240,000 deaths and it was a shocker and they were accused of scare tactics at the time. we just crossed 1 million in the space of two years. >> it really is. and the white house has to be careful with what they say. they have to handle it with the right balance. we go back to of course the last summer and you really saw joe biden's poll numbers start to go down after he had his covid mission accomplishment moment and then delta came along. >> a significant misstep of his presidency. some of his aides believe where it was last july 4th and the nation was declaring independence from the virus and the delta variant was there a few weeks later.

and white house officials watching cases now, they've gone up across the country and hospitalizations have as well but deaths have not. not to the same degree as before. but they are sitting -- as much as their suggesting, it is time for americans to return their lives to normal. they want to see people gathering safely and return to work and kids are in school. but they do worry about what the future holds and they're trying to push for more covid funding and congress is delayed, because they do believe, as peter justice mentioned, there could be a more significant wave coming this fall and winter, reminiscent of what we saw last winter and we'll be ready. >> we sue the numbers that we saw about cases going up. it is amazing how quickly covid is spreading. even over the last couple of weeks. just flying through houses, flying through neighborhoods. fortunately for those who vaccinated and boosted, it is a

day, day and a half of discomfort for most. of course there is long covid. but it is moving fast. but at a completely different light than we've been. >> it is changing. >> yeah, it is changing dramatically now. >> so let's turn to the latest on the war in ukraine. ukrainian forces have launched a major counter offensive around the norther city of kharkiv. according to british intelligence, the assault has dealt heavy losses to russian forces and allowed ukraine to recapture several towns and villages near the border. we've also gotten new images released by the ukrainian military which purportedly showed what was left after they spotted russians trying to cross the donetsk river into western ukraine. those are the remains of at least seven tanks along with dozens of vehicles that were destroyed in the attack. essentially putting an entire battalion group out of action in one fell swoop. as forbes puts it, quote, it is

unclear how many russians died or were wounded. but worth noting that no battalion could lose three quarters of its vehicles and remain capable of operations. that is what the russian military is looking like these days. moscow is indicating that it may be willing to annex the southern city ofkerson, this comes as pro-russian leader in the city said they would appeal to vladimir putin to have russia absorb the city by presidential decree. a kremlin spokesperson seemed to pour cold water on that by saying it is up to the people of kherson to decide its fate but he was not talking about holding a referendum. a adviser to volodymyr zelenskyy rejected the idea of annexation. saying the invaders may as well

ask to join jupiter or mars. interesting. >> meanwhile, a little bit of significant news overnight in the morning, finland president and prime minister announcing the support for nato membership insisting they must do so without delay. while widely expected, it does set a process in motion to bring the organization to the doorstep of russian's western border. finland would be welcome in the alliance and the process would be smooth and swift. the kremlin responded this morning by saying finland's move poses a threat to russia and that nato's expansion would not make the world more stable. that is the view from moscow any way. sweden is also expected to make an announcement about its nato plans as soon as sunday. joining us now, arizona democratic congressman and armed service member ruben gallego. also a marine corp combat veteran. >> good morning. >> let's talk first about the

massive aid package that just swept through the house. $40 billion headed to ukraine. the biggest package yet, bipartisan and overwhelmingly support, the worst than the republican holdouts. we could talk about that in just a moment but what does this package do and you grave president biden more than he asked for which was $33 billion and you went to 40. >> i think it arms ukraine. something that we obviously and in a bipartisan fashion want to see happen for them to defend themselves. number one, it also has a lot of other i would say funding that actually is important. for example, ukraine actually is the world's bread basket. because of the war right now, many of the countries are going to be losing a lot of the food that they usually would be getting from ukraine. so we put some money to help developing nations there. so there is not massive starvation. right. number one, with a lot of aid to hold up the functioning aspects of the ukraine government because right now since they are

actually in war, they can't produce anything right now and they can't tax so therefore the functions of the government are -- so this is a comprehensive bill to help us fight -- to help ukraine both stay alive and also fight russia. which i think at this point it is a bipartisan approach and it is kind of sad that we have some still trying to make this a pro-russia issue. >> you tweeted something that caught our aengs it. like to read it. if there was a ven diagram of the gop members of congress, that just voted against aid for ukraine because we need to focus on the usa and the gop members of congress that voted against the infrastructure would make a perfect circle. i've never been good with vinn diagrams but i could figure this out. hypocrisy. >> but it happens all of the time. they say we need to focus on our

veterans when it comes to legislation, someone like we who lived next to a burn pit, these are the same people that vote against burn pit legislation to give us some type of cover when it comes to -- and coverage when it comes to the v.a. when it comes to veterans and homelessness, we had a lot of that in the build back better agenda, they voted against that. and when they talk about the border, every year that we have a homeland security security bill where we fund our border patrol and we build our walls, these are the same people that also vote against the homeland security bill. so they're the party of no and it is quite beneficial to help the russians and i don't think there is a coincidence. >> we have a list here. it is 57 house republicans who voted against ukraine aid earlier this week. just want to switch gears. we know as much as this is front of mind for so many in washington. the white house has also turned its attention to inflation, the rising costs up and down, especially on food and gasoline. there is a limit of course to

what the white house can do so much is out control but there are is it steps that could be done. tell us how congress working with the white house could approach inflation which is such a perilous issue for democrats come this fall. >> one of things that i've been asking the irs and the white house is to actually increase the gas mileage reimbursement for small businesses. this is something that we don't have to go through congress. but right now bev not changed the changed the gas mile reimbursement for almost a decade. there are uber drivers and small business owners and landscapers that are not making that much money in terms of profit because of the rising gas prices. if we change the gas mile right now they could calculate how much they would earn going forward and start savering money or spending money. and that is step number one. step number two, the most quickest thing tha deal with prescription drug benefits and i think this is something that we

should go back to again. the prices of prescription drugs has continued to go up. it is even going up further now during inflation. this is something that i think we should not be given up and it would be immediate savings especially to a lot of our seniors right now paying massive amount of money for prescriptions that are other wise cheap. i live in arizona. people drive to mexico to pick up the same prescription and they pay almost 40% to 50% less and it is coming from the same factory. you shouldn't have to drive to mexico to get first world medicine at a price that is not comparative. >> democratic congressman ruben gallego of arizona, thank you so much for being on the show today. >> thank you. now to new developments in the death of a journalist we told you about yesterday. the u.s. state department is calling for an investigation into the death offist plannan american journalist sher hine

who was shot in the west bank. joining us now is raf sanchez. what could you tell us? >> reporter: guys, good morning. we are seeing just an outpouring of grief and anger here over the killing of one of the middle easts most prominent journalists. she was a house hold name here and a mentor to many young reporters. this morning final respects being paid to a veteran palestinian american correspondent killed on the job. her bulletproof vest clearly marking her as a journalist. but it wasn't enough to save her life. charrine, an american citizen, watched by millions for her coverage an al jazeera. the network now saying she was assassinated in cold blood while covering a raid in the occupied west bank. they cite eyewitness reports from her own crew including a producer shot alongside her.

israel's prime minister initially said it was likely she was killed by a palestinian gunman. but the defense minister now saying it is not clear who is responsible and adding an investigation is underway. the israeli military releasing footage of a fierce fire fight but no firm evidence who fired the fatal shot. the biden administration demands answers. >> we call for an immediate and thorough investigation and full accountability. >> but palestinians doubtful that they will conduct a full and transparent investigation. >> if we were ukrainians or blond and blue eyed maybe they would think that national law applies to protect the victims. >> reporter: this is the final journey total jazeera bureau where she covered the story of the palestinian people for so many years. you could feel the anger and grief of her colleagues everywhere. her former office now a shrine. >> she's a symbol for every

journalist here. >> reporter: around the globe female journalists paying tribute to a pioneer. her death part of the worst wave of violence since last year's conflict in gaza and fears of worse to come with tensions high at jerusalem's most sensitive religious site. now israel is asking to examine the bullet which killed her. they're offering to do so alongside both palestinian and american observers for transparency. the palestinians are rejeking that. they say they're going to carry out their own investigation, independent of israel. >> guys. >> raf sanchez, thank you so much for that report. >> and there needs to be an independent investigation. this is absolutely horrific. it is an outrage. and there has to be an independent investigation. i mean, if the palestinians with uncomfortable with the israelis, and then get the imer ats, or

get somebody else. get qatar to go in with the united states. because the state department did come out and demand full -- full accountability, full transparency. we need to know the truth here. so, but this can't just be a palestinian investigation, but it needs to be a palestinian investigation and get the qataris in along with the united states and let's find out what happened and hold those accountable, whoever they were, hold them accountable. >> there was swift condemnation coming from the white house and the state department. jen psaki spoke on it yesterday again called for independent investigation that the u.s. would be happy to play a role with a third or fourth party would also be involved remains to be seen. but certainly this is a growing powder keg there. and new settlements being built and president biden has plans to

go to israel in about a month's time. asked if this moment would change that and the answer at this point is no adjustments yet to the schedule. >> all right. coming up on "morning joe," we'll talk to a top british official who plays a key role in his country's seizure of the yachts of russian oligarchs. plus a bill to protect abortion rights is blocked in the senate so what is next. and how could democrats use this vote ahead of the midterms. and nbc's garrett haake will be here with that new reporting. plus, inflation dips slightly but prices are still rising. why we're not out of the woods just yet. we'll be right back. we'll be right back. open talenti and raise the jar. to gelato made from scratch.

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the bill we have today to vote on, the one that is health protection act and i respect people who support, but make no mistake, it is not roe v. wade codification. it is an expansion. it wipes 500, 500 state laws off the books. it expands abortion. it is just disappointing that we're going to be voting on a piece of legislation which i will not vote for today. but would you vote for a roe v. wade codification if it was today. i was hopeful for that. >> that was democratic senator joe manchin explaining his vote against a democratic bill that would have expanded abortion rights. the bill failed with all republicans also voting against it. the vote was triggered by that leaked supreme court draft opinion showing roe v. wade is set to be overturned ten days after politico first broke the news. the justices are set to gather today for the first time since the draft opinion was made public.

joining us now, nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. garrett. >> hey, mika. that draft really increases the sense of urgency among democrats to try to do something on aborg rights. they knew that vote would fail and now it the battle shifts to the states and the courts and midterm voters. the senate blocking the women's health protect act. following that leak of a draft opinion that could overturn roe v. wade. >> we're watching the supreme court prepare to drag this country backward by half a century. >> reporter: democrat joe manchin joining with all 50 senate republicans to oppose the bill with vice president harris presiding. >> sadly the senate failed to stand in defense of a woman's right to make decisions about her own body. and let's be clear, the majority of the american people believe

in defending a womans a right, her choice to decide what happens to her own body. >> reporter: that statement backed by a new poll showing a majority of americans support abortion access with no or some limitations. republicans arguing this bill goes too far. >> democrats radical bill is extreme as extreme gets. >> this bill is about aborting at every single stage of pregnancy. >> democrats now hoping to take their case to midterm voters. asking for a bigger majority to protect abortion rights next year. >> what is next step in this fight look like? >> well, we have to keep lifting up the voices of our constituents. women all across america who have just been denied their basic constitutional rights. >> reporter: across the country, both sides are digging in. [ crowd chanting ] while anti-abortion groups celebrated the outcome of wednesday's vote. >> it was astounding, the fact that democrats called this vote

when it is so unpopular and out of touch. >> reporter: the center for reproductive rights say this fight is far from over. >> this is not the end. it is just the beginning. it is ultimately going to be critical that there is federal action. >> reporter: the next big public piece of this will probably come saturday. there is a rally permitted here in washington, d.c. for as many as 17,000 people to march from the mall to the supreme court in favor of abortion rights. it is that kind of energy out among voters that democrats are going to need if they want to keep this issue front of mind. willie. >> so garrett, we just heard from senator manchin saying if this had been a vote purely on roe v. wade, i would have voted for this to protect roe v. wade. there is a bill out there from susan collins and lisa murkowski, two republicans who proposed to do just that. is there any future for that or visited in a more bipartisan way. >> >> reporter: it doesn't look that way. the question to democrats is how

many times do you want to have a failed vote on this issue. so they might pick up joe manchin, lisa murkowski and susan collins but that is as far as they'll go. there are no other republican senators interested in any kind of bill to codify abortion rights at any level. and so i think from a leadership perspective, in terms of the senate, they would like to move on and folks on other issues and make this a midterm issue going forward. >> okay, nbc's garrett haake, thank you very much. and coming up, we'll hear from pentagon press secretary john kirby on where he thinks the war in ukraine is headed. plus apple is no longer the world's most valuable company. so what is? we'll tell you straight ahead. we'll tell you straight ahead. open talenti and raise the jar. to gelato made from scratch. raise the jar to all five layers. raise the jar to the best gelato...

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markets opened about four minutes ago. >> all right. so we got more pressure, willie. is what it comes down to. big sell-off yesterday tied to the consumer inflation numbers. as you could see, they're down another 300 points right now. nasdaq is down even worse. it is inflation again. no surprise there. it is been the overriding economic story for several months. so we got yesterday's sell-off because of inflation at the retail or consumer level. the consumer price index. now, we're seeing some more downside pressure today because we got more date saw on inflation this morning and this time it is the inflation at the wholesale or company/business level. that so-called producer index or ppi came in with a gain of half a percent from march to april, that means an 11% gain over the same time last year. it was in line with economist expectations and if you strip out the effects of those more volatile food and energy prices, the monthly gain was around .6%

and leading to a year-over-year gain of 6.9%. in line with economist expectations. but much like yesterday's cpi report, the inflation levels, yes they're still eye-popping but this consumer price index shows a slow down in price increases over the previous month, maybe providing still that small indication, guys, that prices are in the process, possibly -- i can't predict it, possibly in the process of peaking so the next step will be checking with the economic data down the line to see whether this inflationary data is now having a real impact on consumer sentiment and then of course by extension actual spending in the economy and by the way, guys, if you want to talk about a positive story, we got weekly jobless claims also ticking higher than previous week, but the number of folks, americans filing for multiple weeks of unemployment benefits fell by 44,000 to 1.343 million and that

is important because that is the lowest reading since 1970. >> wow. >> we'll take that green chute there and those numbers. another tough day on wall street. a tough day for apple yesterday among many other companies in the board and they slipped down an important ranking, didn't they? >> they did. so apple is still -- i mean it is hard to say this. it is still worth around $2.37 trillion with a "t", but the big deal is this, that is now less than the estimated market cap for global oil giants saudi aramco, that is state controlled oil company in saudi arabia. which at current exchange rates is worth roughly $2.43 trillion. so it is another symptom of the broader macry big picture playing out in the global market and the economy. we know about the surge in oil prices. that has made energy companies more valuable in general. not just saudi aramco, but those like exxon-mobil and chevron and

the european oil majors like shell and bp. at the same time the threat of inflation has interest rates an the rise. maybe the fed has to be more aggressive. that is putting a damper on valuations for tech and media stocks like microsoft, amazon, apple, tesla and you name it and apple versus saudi aramco is the latest example. >> the stock is up 27% this year and soaring oil prices will do that for you. cnbc's dominic chu. >> still ahead this hour we'll talk to a u.k. official who is working to cripple russia's shipping industry. also ahead, take a look at these images out of orange county, california, where a fast-moving wildfire has charred two dozen homes and caused hundreds to evacuate. we'll have that story for you and some of the other stories making front page headlines across the country. all that after a quick break.

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reporting health officials in the state's most populous county, the city of portland, now asking people to wear masks indoors until case counts start to fall. multnomah county has been averaging about 350 new cases per day. that is up from less than 100 early last month. oregon's governor ended the statewide mask mandate back in march. >> the san diego union tribune features a front page story about a federal appeals court triking down a california law that bans people under the age of 21 from buying semi-automatic rifles. the 2-1 ruling by a three judge panel of the ninth court of appeals called the ban unconstitutional and a severe burden on the 2s amendment rights. >> and to tulsa. a law that will make it easier for police officers to remove homeless people from the streets or other public rights of way

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"morning joe." earlier this morning we spoke with pentagon press secretary e with pentagon press secretar the war in ukraine here's some of our question. >> director haynes said he's not going to stop with the donbas. what capability has he shown he can keep going he wanted kyiv out of the gate, was pushed out of there. what have you seen in the last three months that tells you putin could launch a new invasion of ukraine in a different way that faile >> it's not clear. it's not really clear he can. he didn'tr succeed in kyiv, do in the south and now he has 100

tactical groups down in the donbas region alone, he's still not making a lot of strategic objectives. it's largely tactical like a town and village here. we havege to be mindful that he could, that he can try to go beyondry the donbas, but right w he can't even get that. it's not clear whether he'll be able to have the n will and the capability to move elsewhere in the uk. look, you've got to hand it to the ukrainians. they're stopping him at almost every turn. he has really not achieved any strategic objectives. >> want to get you in on this story. the white house y reportedly taking strict measures to control what intelligence is shared with ukrainent to avoid further provoking russia, according to "the washington post." defense officials have placed two restrictions on the kind of information the u.s. can share. the firstu. prohibits the passi of information thatrs would hel to kill russian leadership. the secondil bans any intelligee sharing that would help ukraine carry out attacks inside of russia.ta obviously, this is off the reporting from nbc news last week that we talked to you about, about the sinking of the

moskva. you said those leaks are unconscionable. can you tell us about the new steps? >> i wouldn't describe these steps reportedt as necessarily new. i don't want to a get into what the parameters are for the intelligence we share. i think we can understand why we wouldn't want to do that. the information we're giving ukrainians, it's timely, relevant and also it's legal and limited. we've got to be careful, we always are careful, but we want tore make sure we're giving the the kinds of information they need toth do their job. and i think, you know, in addition to the systems that have been flowing into their hands,fl in addition to the training they continue to get on many of those systems, this intelligence is proving pivotal in their ability to defend themselves. the less said about it, a t honestly, the oubetter. >> that was part of our interview earlier this morning with admiral john kirby. >> i mean, what a great

spokesman he is, great spokesperson, wherever he is. jonathan, you've dealt with so many. he'sea so good. >> also for the biden administration, he's their>> emissary to fox news and conservative media because he has credibility and he's taken serious there, too. the daily pentagon briefings have been so informative, updating americans, and also our allies about the state of theal war. the british government has frozen billions of dollars in assetson belonging to russian oligarchs as part of the global squeeze on vladimir putin and his allies. ithi also seized one of several so-called superiz yachts. this one worth $50 million and owned by russian businessman vitaly. as soon as it was seized, the british secretary oft state fo transport made his way to the dock to commemorate the moment on tiktok.

he joins us now. i like the whole tiktok thing. you're really getting the word out. so, who is this oligarch, since i massacred his name, and how many more ships are you following as they get seized? >> well, to put this into -- good morning, by the way.pu to put this into perspective, we have now sanctioned and seized about over $1 trillion of assets of russian individuals, organizations. among them, yacht, a superyacht you saw there, a number of different jets, the aircraft are being seized and held in various different locations in the uk. and i just take the view, it doesn't just have to be russian owned or flagged. it can be some russian connection to an oligarch, people who benefitted from putin. we've seen the way putin's behaifed in this premeditated war and we will not stand by and watch that happen to ukraine without taking really stiff th

action. that's why we've been so proactive. i think the uk has sanctioned more individuals and organization than any other nation at this stage. >> asot you say, these yachts a often flown under the flags of different countries to disguise them. they'll beto registered in the caribbean. what's the process by which you locate them and physically seize them ask what's been the pushback from the oligarchs? >> it's not just the yachts themselves. it's the russian connected shipping coming into our ports. i knew very early, for example, to block not just russian flagged, as you say, it's easy to flag somewhere else iny, the world, but russian owned, connected,si leased, you know, hiring, you know, funded, so, you know, shares in, so anything which has that russian oligarch connection. and i think actually, you know, the yachts obviously, the superyachts like that get a lot of attention but actually it's

killing the trade. that's what's really important. we know putin can only fund this evil war if he has the money to carry on doing it. so, we have to stop him. and i think what's really noticeable is these sanctions come in, r and initially they lk like they're having a big impact. we saw the t ruble crash and fa, but over a period of time the ruble comes back up because the russian economy finds ways to circumvent the sanctions. we have to keep ratcheting that up. that's one of the reasons i'm here in the u.s. this week, to make sureu. we're working togetr to ratchet up the pressure on putin. he must not win this war. >> thank you for coming on, british secretary of state for transport, grant shapps. that does it for us. >> does that go to a lease auction? >> jose diaz-balart picks up the coverage after a quick break.os k

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