good to be with you. i'm katy tur. breaking news out of washington as we commonly air. the january 6th select committee has issued five new subpoenas, this time to members of congress. house minority leader kevin mccarthy and four other republicans, scott perry, jim

jordan, andy biggs and mo brooks has been subpoenaed by the committee. prior to sending subpoenas today, the committee sent letters to the members asking them to speak voluntarily. he said regrettably they have refused and were forced to take this step to ensure the committee uncovers facts concerning january 6. joining me is ali vitale and carol lemick. the subpoenas have just gone out. what is the expectation? >> the expectation is things are not likely to change on the cooperation front and the top republican, kevin mccarthy said

he still sees this committee as illegitimate. he has to come out of that chamber and we're waiting for him just a few steps away. we might get another chance to ask him more about that, but tellingly, mccarthy then pivoted to talking about inflation and the economy. it is, again, another reminder the way that republicans would like to contend with this and other issues but really the central focus here is the committee going a step further than they have ever gone with republican lawmakers, subpoenaing them and chairman thompson echoing what he said in that statement that you read earlier, telling reporters as he was leaving the floor that the committee feels they have the authority to do this, they have a charge to investigate january 6th and this is what they need to do that. there's very little precedent in this space, especially when it's unlikely for these lawmakers to actually comply. you and i have talked about this before. this committee is up against the clock. if the republicans retake the

house in the november mid terms, this committee goes away because republicans will disband it. the more legal it gets, the more into the courts this battle goes, the further they get from any kind of speedy resolution. we've asked the chairman if there's a way for them to expedite this process. it doesn't seem that there is. there's also not been a conversation on the committee's part about what happens when the lawmakers say they won't comply with the subpoena, do they go the way of criminal contempt referrals, we know how slowly that's gone in the past and on the precedent front, do they have the ability to do that? >> the question also is what would d.o.j. do about this? >> it's a great question and we don't know the answer. i have to say this event, this update essentially is a major escalation in the january 6th investigation. an escalation because essentially what they're asking is for their fellow members to be forced to testify, to give

interviews, explaining themselves and their actions on the days before january 6th. most of them working with donald trump to try to block the certification and challenge the election as rigged and try to dispute specific swing states. and what's so huge about this legally is we don't know whether or not the committee will win a legal battle, even if they have time to fight it to the death and the end. we don't know whether or not they would win the battle to get d.o.j. to find these people in contempt or whether in going to the appellate and ultimately the supreme court it could force the issue of having these people give their information. remember, we already know from texts that they had with mark meadows and other white house officials, some of which have been released, that they were working with donald trump, they were helping him try to keep this election from being certified and in some instances, say in the instance of kevin mccarthy, who hopes to be

speaker come november, come next year, in the case of kevin mccarthy he was actually telling donald trump and his white house team that this effort to block the certification was doomed to fail. both kevin mccarthy and jim jordan both spoke to donald trump on january 6th, on that day, and could reveal a lot about what donald trump was thinking, saying and pushing for as rioters stormed the capitol and threatened to kill the vice president. >> carol, i wonder with these subpoenas, can we glean anything about what evidence the committee might have and might be about to roll out during these public hearings? >> i think the -- if past is prologue, katie, we are not going to get cooperation from these five members any time soon. they'll like donald trump drag out legal resistance.

but you get a sense that they already know quite a bit about what kevin mccarthy, jim jordan, brooks, biggs and perry were up to in terms of helping donald trump, you know, side track democracy. >> what about scott perry's involvement in trying to install jeffrey clark at d.o.j., carol? >> so, this is a really harrowing moment for the department of justice because at that time in december, jeffrey clark is the person whispering in donald trump's ear that he thinks if they challenge, if d.o.j. finds some question, some corruption, some evidence of dispute about the georgia election results and they throw sort of a wrench into that, that they can stop the certification on january 6th. they can stop biden from being formally announced as the

president-elect. and perry jumps in to help jeffrey clark get installed as the new acting attorney general because the then acting attorney general after bill barr had left refused to do any such thing. you may remember that donald trump and jeffrey clark was helping him, donald trump kept saying, you know, just say there's corruption in georgia, we'll handle the rest. and that's what clark was trying to help him do and was unsuccessful because people sort of threw their bodies in front of this and several people at the department of justice threatened to resign en masse when that was proposed. >> can you imagine what would have happened if they did not and what sort of morass we would have been in. the images we were showing were of congressman perry. one other question. this is about a letter said to

congressman andy biggs. this is about information he seems to have about former white house official about an effort to seek presidential pardons for actions that republicans took to help trump overturn the 2020 results. >> yeah, that was one of the striking things in the letter that was sent to the congressmen a few weeks ago. remember, everyone who got a subpoena today had been asked in some cases twice to come before the committee and voluntarily cooperate and talk to them. they all declined. but in the letter that was send to biggs, that's one of the things that they charged that based on the interview they had done, they saw him not just talk with the white house about ways to overturn the 2020 election but seeking presidential pardons for the actions he could have taken to do that. that presupposes that those

seeking presidential pardons new -- knew they were doing something criminal to be pardoned for. and now there are hundreds of interviews, documents and text messages. there are specific reasons why these are the congressmen they want to speak to. chairman thompson said to me a few weeks ago that it's not just house republican lawmakers that he wants to talk to. he did say they wanted to talk to republican senators. they have not yet made that foray in the other chamber. but we're four weeks until those public hearings and they're probably going to want to move quickly if this is something they want to do. >> i imagine we'll hear potentially from senator mike lee. you mentioned it a moment ago, "i have not seen the subpoena. i guess they sent it to you guys before they sent it to me. look, my view on the committee has not changed, they're not conducting a legitimate investigation. it seems as they they just want

to go after their political opponents and he went on to talk about inflation. nancy pelosi caught up with reporters on the hill and she said i respect whatever they do, it is their decision regarding the subpoenas from the select committee. thank you ladies for starting us off. we appreciate it. and it is day 78 of russia's war in ukraine. here's what we know right now. finland is ready to join nato. the president and prime minister said finland plans to seek membership right away. it would strengthen not only the country but the entire alliance. the kremlin is not reacting well. they call this a threat to russia.

foreign minister sergey lavrov saying they will be forced to take retaliatory steps both of military, technical and other nature. russian forces face setbacks in the donbas. and ukrainian attacks have slowed progress even in smaller villages and cities. the military campaign by russia is not going well. >> we joined by kelly cobiella and also joining us is the author of clarity in crisis." kelly, the first war crimes trial will be held in ukraine. it has to do with a russian soldier. what can you tell us about it?

>> yes, that's right. no trial date set yet, just an announcement by the prosecutor here in ukraine. it was announced on facebook. she said the case involves a 21-year-old russian soldier who is accused of shooting an unarmed civilian, 62-year-old, as he was riding a bicycle in his village and killing him just yards from his house. this is what the prosecutor says happened. she says that this soldier was among a group of soldiers who were retreating, that they had stolen a car, they were trying to make their way back toward the russian border and that this soldier claims that he was told to shoot the man on the bicycle because he had seen them and may report their positions to ukrainian forces. so what happens next? well, that's to be determined, i'm afraid. i have to say there's an indictment in place and we'll see how this plays out going forward. surely russia will have

something to say about it. but it is the first in what is expected to be many, many prosecutions, you know, we've talked over the past several weeks about alleged war crimes in bucha, and the u.n. human rights chief even said today that, look, we're finding -- we've already found a thousand bodies of civilians just in the kyiv area. some of those people were killed in fighting, but he says he was shocking the number of people who were not, who may have been subject to summary executions and other potential war crimes. so this, katie, surely is just the beginning. >> so, mark, let's talk about

russia's efforts here. they are not moving as swiftly, not having as much military success as they anticipated, certainly as the world anticipated. what does that tell you about how this effort might continue to go? >> let's be clear, russia is absolutely failing in their campaign. a lot has been said in the last couple of days talk about this could turn taught to be a long, slow slog. so i think it's really important that the u.s. and our nato allies continue to push heavy weapons to the ukrainians. this is a fight to their existential existence. so i think that the american people have to be prepared for not weeks or months but perhaps a year or more of support to the ukrainians. but this is really the great fight of our time. you know, the future of europe is at stake. what i find absolutely

extraordinary is you have countries once committed to neutrality, i'm talking to sweden and finland now openly stating they want to join nato, which to me is a seismic shift in european politics and certainly something that vladimir putin did not want at all. >> let's talk about that because finland had put this off and sweden had put this off. when you talk to finnish people, they were saying what was going on in ukraine really solidified their desire to join nato. the numbers out of that country, once 30% or so of people wanted to join and now it's above 70% of people who want to join nato. i mean, if you're vladimir putin and you're seeing this, are you surprised at the unity? are you surprised at the reaction? can you really be that surprised when you invaded a sovereign country? >> it's a reflection of kind of the total failure of this russian invasion of ukraine, of

the miscalculation. finland has an 810-mile border with russia. in terms of what nato is going to, you know, gain from this is a very confident finnish military. they have an excellent air force, they're flying f-35 fighters. they also have a very good military intelligence apparatus. so nato really will be strengthened by this. one of the things that is quite extraordinary is over the last several hours and days is that russia has begun making threats towards finland. but it's falling almost on deaf ears because what can russia really do at this point? we might see perhaps cyber attacks on finland, but the horse is out of the barn. finland is going to become a memo nato and in essence, vladimir putin can do anything about this. >> thank you guys. and still ahead, gas prices hit a new record again today. what voters in battleground states like georgia will say

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it is getting worse. the national average for gasoline hit another record high this morning. $4.41. in georgia the rising costs are squeezing statewide budgets and becoming a major issue for voters and candidates ahead of this year's mid-term elections. joining me from gainesville, georgia is nbc news correspondent barbara ellison.

you are a georgian from atlanta. what is it like out there? not everybody has access to public transportation. >> reporter: it's really tough. you mentioned that national gas average. when you go back and looks at it about a year ago this exact same time, it was $1.30 less. let me show you the prices here in gainesville. you look up at this sign, unleaded 3.89. that's really high. diesel $4.99. in atlanta, it is even higher. we went to three different counties speaking to people about these gas prices, inflation in general. all three of the counties we went to, they are very different politically. one is a deep blue county, one a swing county and a deep red county. the answers they gave us for who is to blame for the increases at gas pumps and the grocery stores

but everybody told us these prices are ridiculous and not sustainable and for a lot of them, it is upending their budget. >> the one thing i know for sure is that you have to have a car to be able to get around. as if you can see, there's not a lot of busses, stuff like that. >> little people like me and everybody else just around, we're literally working just to put gas in our cars. >> it's tough. i got two kids, one in thigh -- high school and one in college. >> i work at the clinic down the road. a lot of patients have come in and complain with it. i've had so many people cancel their appointments because they can't afford gas to come. >> reporter: you touched on it, katy. in georgia, atlanta, there is public transportation available. it's really not that great. it's nothing like what we have in new york.

public transportation in more suburban areas, in rural areas, it's almost nonexistent. i asked most people if they would consider buying an electric vehicle. a few people said they would think about it. but most said, no, they said they couldn't afford an electric vehicle or they were worried it wouldn't be as reliable as a traditional gas-using car. this is a big swing state nowadays. there's a big senate race coming up in november and this is already becoming a significant political issue. you have politicians on both sides of the aisle talking about this. the republican primary for the senate race, that's in less than two weeks. i was speaking to someone close to herschel walker's campaign, the candidate ahead in the republican polls right now and he said they feel this is the

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private sellers marketing cans for sometimes double or triple the price. joining me is nbc news business and tech correspondent jolene kent. jo, what's the latest with this abbott plant and whether it will reopen soon? >> it's all about the big if here. if the fda approves reopening that plant. every singling day is time lost on the clock, especially for vulnerable children, especially those suffering from metabolic disorders who rely on this formula. every single day counts. parents desperately searching for the vital food their babies need. with soaring inflation and ongoing supply chain delays, parents across the country are facing a crisis with no end in sight. the national out of stock average for popular baby formulas jumped to 40% last

month. many retailers have put limits on how much you can buy at a time. >> it's a bone deep anxiety of is my child going to get what they need. >> the shortage comes after abbott called for a massive recall following reports of bacterial infection that the cdc says may have contributed to the death of two infants. the recall shutting down the company's michigan plant. after an investigation by the fda and cdc, abbott conceded that some of its processes were not followed and says it has set out to improve its systems and address the issues raised. the company now telling nbc news there is no evidence to link our formulas to these infant illnesses. >> even just trying to think of going a day with having to be completely off of his regular abbott formula to something else is stressful. >> jordian's son suffers from a

metabolic disorder that requires a specialized formula that abbott makes. without it he could suffer brain damage, fall into a coma or die. >> he's asked me a couple of times if this means he's going to die. >> doctors are warning never dilute your formula. >> the kidneys are not able to process that. >> the fda saying homemade baby formula may lack nutrients vital to an infant's growth. one option, breast milk banks that store donor milk and often sell it for a nominal fee. >> we want to be sure that the babies who need this donor milk receive it regardless of their ability to pay. >> when we talk about supply chain problems, katy, there is a stockpiling issue from the

pandemic, record demand at grocery stores and families buying up formula and that's been exacerbated anecdotally across the country, since february, january when this began to be an issue here. we did want to point out abbott did receive fda approval to release some formulas on a case-by-case basis. >> i had no idea that there were older kids who relied on that and how scary for that son to ask his mother if he was going to die. that's heart breaking. >> it's awful. >> this has got to get resolved quickly. in new york city, a charitable organization known as robinhood, you know it, announced a partnership that will expand access to child care over the next four years. for decades child care has been too scarce or expensive for many

families. during the pandemic, the industry practically collapsed as day care centers closed and child care workers left for higher paying jobs. it created a domino effect on working young mothers. according to a survey, almost half of mothers cited child care as a reason they quit their jobs. the survey also found that 69% of job seeking women said child care benefits could sway their decision on where to work, but only a small percentage of salaried workers and even fewer hourly workers surveyed reported that they had access to child care subsidies that would help. joining me is robin hood ceo richard fury jr. this $50 million, coming from new york city, the other 50 from robin hood, $25 million came

from another, the other 25 you're going to raise. what is it going to do for new york city parents? >> first of all, thank you for having me to talk about this. we've raised a hundred million and including a $25 million anchor gift. fundamentally, child care is a tremendous one-two punch for americans. one, we all understand child care is critical for new yorkers to be able to go to work, americans to go to work, as you just said. >> pardon me. >> no problem. people didn't understand that before the pandemic. ask any parents during the pandemic if they understand how critical it is. but the other thing about child care, it's a tremendous opportunity for child development. we know that so much brain development happens in the early stages of life. and if you have quality child care, if you are really working on investing in the workforce,

you cannot only make sure parents can go to work, can you help young people develop skills and resources that last a lifetime. so with this hundred million, it's going to help new york city grow and expand and improve the quality of its child care system, everything from investing in depression and development for workers to creating -- expanding care during alternative hours so that folks who work different shifts -- >> that's a really good point. not everybody goes to work 9 to 5 jobs. there are people who work overnight shifts or go early in the morning or have different hours every week, don't have a set schedule. there are very few places where you can drop your kid off between 6 and 6 a.m. >> i'm just literally coming from an event for a nontraditional employment for wisconsin, tremendous organization that robin hood supports. it trains women for jobs in the construction trades. with you but if you have to be on a job site at 6 a.m., even if you have access to child care, even if you can afford it, you

can't bring your child there at 6 a.m. but the truth is most people can't afford it. half the new yorkers can't afford child care. >> 64% of new yorkers live in child care deserts where even if they could afford it, and not everyone can, you just don't have access to it. that means there's not a facility open or there aren't enough people working at that facility to take on the kids. >> one troubling statistics in new york city is there is only one available infant child care slots for every five infants in new york city. >> which is crazy. >> so how can people go to work? that burden falls disproportionately on women who have the greater burdens for child care and elder care. it's a tremendous obstacle for our economy, for gender equity, for full participation in the life of -- >> will this about subsidies for parents or making sure that workers are paid more?

it's one of the industries, even though the people who work in it are taking care of the most precious people in the world, those are high stress, very difficult jobs get paid almost nothing. >> it is probably the biggest tragedy of our country. it's hard to imagine a role that is more important than who takes care of your 6-month-old and 2-year-old and we treat this workforce terribly. we don't pay them, we don't train them, we don't support them. what does it mean for their ability to take care of their child or our child. we need to professionalize the workforce. i don't think it's a workforce that is 93% women, overwhelming live women of color. i don't think it's a coincidence that we don't invest in the skills and professional development of these amazing heros, particularly during the pandemic, these heros who without them the busses and

trains wouldn't have been running. they are essential workers as well. >> absolutely. it's such important work. for society to function, you need to have highly qualified and taken care of child care workers. you got to make the access available to absolutely everybody. otherwise, we're going to have a lot of imbalance on all sides of the economic spectrum for women and for men, for people of color, people not of color. it's a mess all the way around. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> $100 million is a lot of money and the state is working on resolving the issue as well. still ahead, what exactly happened when a veteran palestinian american journalist was shot and killed in the west bank? and breaking news out of california where a fast-moving wildfire has burned mansions in one of the state's richest

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more on that breaking news from capitol hill. subpoenas issued by the january 6 committee to republican lawmakers including house minority leader kevin mccarthy. we spoke with committee member adam schiff just a moment ago. >> reporter: can you talk a little bit about the subpoenas that went out today. they're pretty unprecedented. do you guys feel confident you can enforce them? talk to you about what led to this point. >> we issued five subpoenas today to five different members of congress who plainly have relevant information pertaining to our investigation. these are people who were involved in discussions with the president, they were in communication with white house staff on january 6th, leading up to it, some were involved in the effort to overturn the election, some spoke at the rally before the attack. one has said publicly that the

president called him to rescind the election. they clearly have relevant testimony. they need to do their duty. they need to uphold their oath and come in voluntarily and testify. if they don't, we will discuss what the appropriate remedy is, but we have had other investigations, indeed in the russia investigation we had a democrat and a republican house member come and testify. they did so voluntarily because they had relevant information and they understood their obligation. it should be no different for these five. >> reporter: that's that word voluntarily. you have subpoenas involved now. >> we have subpoenas involved now. we would hope, though, they comply with those subpoenas, that they don't fight those subpoenas. they understand the relevance of their testimony and they should do the patriotic thing and come and share what they know. >> we're also following breaking news out of california, thousands of people in orange

county remain under mandatory evacuation orders because of a fast-moving wildfire that is burning mansions in one of california's richest neighborhoods. nbc news correspondent steve patterson is on the ground in california. steve. >> reporter: yeah, katy. right now it is the constant hum of fire trucks pierced with the constant blast of hoses. this has turned really into a hot spot suppression effort mixed with a smoldering containment effort. crews are trying to get the last remnants of the ruins of these homes out so assessors can assess the damage. meanwhile, they are dealing with catastrophic damage in this neighborhood. multi-million dollar homes but most of them are now the shells of homes. at least 20 homes burned down in this home alone, really in every direction that i can see. the fire was small and fast and

moved so quickly. yesterday it started at about two, three, four, five acres, not something any of us would pay attention to. then it jumped to ten acres, 40 acres and then 200 acres and started move being quickly up the hillside, which is right behind me, leaping over the canyon and then raining down embers on the top of these roofs. one of the things these firefighters said was because the houses are so large, they had a problem getting just because of how much flammable material there are in these houses, they had a problem with trying to find the front of the fire on each house. by the time they got to the flames, it would jump to the next house and it's the catastrophic nature that you see now in this neighborhood. part of it, of course, is how bone dry this entire state is. all the vegetation in this area, like a runway for flames to race right up that hillside. it is because we have been in this mega drought for so long. it is because there's barely any

moisture on any of the vegetation in this area. this state now in a water emergency. it's not helping anything, especially with these fires. >> incredible, those homes right on the bluff there over the ocean. steve patterson, thank you very much. >> and there is outrage that is continuing today. the reporter was fatally shot while covering raids in the west bank. she was wearing a bullet-proof vest identifying her as a member of the media. the bullet that killed her has become a focus of the investigation into what happened. raf sanchez has more. >> reporter: we are seeing just an outpouring of grief and anger over the killing of one of the middle east's most prominent reporters.

she was a household name here and she was a mentor to many young reporters. final respects being paid to a veteran palestinian correspondent killed on the job. her bullet-proof vest clearly marking her as a journalist, but it wasn't enough to save her life. shireen abu akleh watches by millions of americans for her coverage of al jazeera. she was shot while covering a raid in the occupied west bank. they cite reports from her own crew, including her producer shot alongside her. it was said she was likely killed by a palestinian gunman, but the defense minister now saying it isn't clear who's responsible and adding an investigation is under way. the israeli military releasing footage of a fierce firefight but no firm evidence who fired the fatal shot. the biden administration

demanding answers. >> we call for an immediate and thorough investigation and full accountability. >> reporter: but palestinians doubtful israel will conduct a full and transparent investigation. >> if we were the ukrainians and we were blond and blue eyes, maybe they would think that the national law applies to protect the victims. >> reporter: this is where she covered stories of the palestinian people for years. you can feel the anger and grief everywhere. >> she's a symbol for every single journalist who works here. >> reporter: around the globe female journalists paying tribute to a pioneer. her death part of the worst wave of violence since last year's conflict in gaza and fears with worst to come at jerusalem's most sensitive religious site. israel is asking to examine the bullet that killed her.

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exactly we're looking at here. >> this is an image created by as you stated observations from multiple radio telescopes of showing the large massive black hole in the center of our galaxy. this thing is over 4 million times more massive than our own sun and a distance of around 27,000 light years away. >> okay. so it's a massive black hole. it is very far away. what's the deal with the ring of light around it? because a black hole sucks in all light. it's just darkness. why does it also glow? >> that's right. so this is not actually an optical image like a photograph. so this was made from observations of radio telescopes. but what happens is everything gets sucked into a black hole. the gravity is so intense that not even light escapes. and hence the name. so the event horizon is the periphery of the black hole. so the ring that you see would

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