♪♪ i am chris jansing. we are following a number of fast-moving stories this hour, including a significant day with the war in ukraine. this russian soldier appeared in a glass cage to face murder charges that he murdered an unarmed man ride a bike. and then the calls for the government to take action on the

growing problem of baby formula supplies. >> i will talk about president biden and what he wants to do to ease the crisis and why so far invoking the defense production act is not one of those things. we will start with the republican pushback on capitol hill. the january 6th committee delivered a stack of subpoenas to some republicans, including the top ranking house member. and joining me here, good to see all of you on this friday morning.

ali, what information are they looking from these lawmakers? >> what they are looking for is a whole range of things. we had seen letters from the january 6th committee to these individuals and those letters were detailed in the case, for example, of scott perry, talking about the roles he may have played in trying to install jeffrey talk, a trump ally, to move forward with the debunked fraud claims. and another was talking about ways into looking to bolster ways to ask for a presidential pardon, if you need a pardon because you knew something you would doing something illegal in

that effort. there's a wide range of things they want to talk to him about but doesn't seem they will get that chance. >> what are we hearing from them now and how are they reacting? >> the refrain is similar, when it was letters and now subpoenas, the good example is the top house republican, kevin mccarthy yesterday, and check out what he said. out what he said >> look, chris, interesting mccarthy making this a question of politics and partisanship, and the committee hope they supply with the subpoenas. that's the same thing we have been hearing, these lines of

partisan versus patriotism over the last year or so and this puts them at a moment where they have been on the clock trying to work expeditiously because they are up against maybe losing the house in the midterms, and we are three weeks and change from the start of the committees. the committee wanted to have their fact finding done, and this drags out the process. on paper, they have the folks coming to testify before the end of may, and in practicality, that's probably not going to happen because they know once getting into the courts and starting to challenge the subpoenas, that's when things get dragged out and slow-moving. >> without a doubt. something that caught our eye in the playbook this morning was liz cheney was among those pressing hardest for this move, arguing that these gop members had relevant information and they couldn't let them skirt

without questioning. what can you tell us about that? was that the argument that ultimately made the committee decide to do this? >> the committee has been weighing sometime whether or not to move forward with the subpoenas. to call other congressional colleagues like this is an unprecedented step for congress and will put more strain on an institution that was already broken in many ways. for congresswoman cheney who put everything on the line by taking part in the investigation as a republican and as somebody who had been in the upper echelons of the republican leadership, this is important for her, somebody who has made the commitment to get to the truth of what happened. as the committee's chairman told us yesterday, when it came time to make this call, there was no disagreement among committee members about how to move forward here, and as one member

put it to me, this was a natural progression for them. they already faced the stonewalling from the colleagues and they had to make this step to try to compel testimony and get information they were not able to get otherwise. >> chuck, we are also hearing from other members that received subpoenas. i want to play one reaction. take a listen. >> the fact they sent it to the press before they sent it to members proves it's about the headlines. >> i think it's a illegitimate committee and they don't have the authority to issue subpoenas in my opinion, so we don't want to dignify what they are doing. this has been a witch hunt from day one and this is an attempt to go after political enemies instead of trying to get at the truth. >> chuck, they don't have the authority he's trying to argue. what recourse does the committee have if the republicans decide

to ignore the subpoenas. >> they do have the authority, but if the members ignore it they will have to try and enforce it in court and that's long and slow, and as ali suggested in the opening statement, they won't get the testimony they want. there's a legal answer these subpoenas are lawful orders, and there's a practical answer, and it's this, if these members of congress that received subpoenas believe what they did and morally and legally and ethical defensible, go and tell the committee. if they are proud of what they did, saw and heard in the run up to january 6th, go tell the committee. if they feel they have criminal exposure, plead the fifth. if they have a constitutional argument that the speech or debate clause will be violated, go file a lawsuit, but stop whining. >> when we say it's going to

take a while, and i don't think there's anybody -- nicholas can argue this on the other side, but i don't think anybody is going to jump to comply with the subpoenas, and if you assume that and it's going to take a while in the courts, how long are we talking? weeks? months? past the midterms? >> i think it would certainly not happen in time for the june hearings that the committee plans. by the way, if i stepped on a question to nicholas, i will let you get to him. >> that's fine. it will take a long time. what are you hearing on capitol hill, nicholas, what do they think they will get out of this? >> well, at the very least they may be able to likely produce evidence if these lawmakers were involved in the run-up to

january 6th and had contact with the former president on that day. we know the committees has done interviews and has records that show contact between top white house officials and members of congress and the president on january 6th. so even if they don't get the testimony from these five lawmakers and other republicans who they see as potentially culpable, they are confident they can produce a written product at the end of this will stand up to whatever scrutiny they shined on it. >> federal prosecutors have now begun the grand jury investigation into donald trump's handling of the classified documents that ended up at mar-a-lago. what do you see happening in that investigation? >> i don't believe the former president is going to get charged with mishandling

classified information because the president has the ability, with sort of the wave of a wand to declassify anything that is put in front of him. they are trying to figure out what was mishandled and what was the contents of the information and who might have seen it and what do we have to do as an intelligence community to mitigate it, and definitely an appropriate investigation. it's a shame this happened because the president was reckless, but i don't think he's going to jail for handling classified information. this is an investigation for a different reason and with a different purpose to mitigate any damage done by his mishandling. >> a critically important distinction there. add to that list just yesterday in the abortion debate,

louisiana lawmakers overwhelmingly rejected legislation that would have classified abortion as homicide, and i wonder more broadly across the u.s., what are you hearing about concerns within the republican party that overturning roe could back fire on republicans? >> so far this has not been a concern for republicans on the hill. for a lot of republicans here, overturning roe has been this decades-long goal. it has taken a little bit of time for members of congress to digest this news, and at the beginning the republicans were quick to denounce the draft opinion disclosed by politico, and since then some republicans have come to grips with the fact that this could be a real policy outcome that they wanted for very long and are trying to figure out what to do from there. we are keeping a close eye on

how this could become a mid-term issue, and the democrats don't have the votes to wart off this decision, and this is going to be a mid-term issue this year. >> great to see both of you today. thank you. this morning in kyiv, a russian soldier accused of killing an unarmed civilian appeared in court for the first war crimes trial of the invasion. i will speak with a former parliament member about the case and others like it. and stores completely run out of baby formula, so what are families supposed to do? we will talk to a mom who says she's freaking out about getting enough to feed her baby. enough to feed her baby. of bipn can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms.

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this morning pressure is building on the white house to take action because across the country the average out of stock rate of baby formula. president biden is pushing to reduce red tape and speed formula production. joining me is the mother of a 10-month-old octavia. i so appreciate you being with

us. first of all, how much supply do you have of formula for octavia? >> since i have been getting my story out there, i have had many people reach out to me and offer to send me formula. since last night i have gotten a plethora of formula, and i am giving back to those here at camp pendleton, and i am hoping to reach out to "the new york times" article struggling. >> you are a "new york times" military family, and they did your story, and one of the stories you told was of your husband coming home from work and finding you on the floor crying. tell us what you were feeling in that moment? >> i was absolutely hysterical. my husband is in the military,

in the marines, and he comes home from work every day, and for this particular day i was calling all of my daughter's specialists, nutrition, specialists for answers because we were down to half a can of formula. i had no other option. all they told me to do was, oh, just go to the er. i am on the floor crying, like, looking at them and telling them, i'm so sorry, i can't provide for you. when my husband came home, he asked what is going on? i said i can't feed our children and i feel like a failure. and as a parent it's my job, it's our job, to provide the necessities for these children. >> i can't imagine. i can't put myself in your place, and you have two daughters that have a severe dairy allergy, and so octavia

needs a specific kind of formula, and that's part of the recall, and not everybody gets a story in the "new york times," and believe me, we are happy for you that you are able to feed octavia for sure. what are the conversations, like, around the base or with other military moms? your moms' circle, what have the conversations been like? >> it's been hectic. we, in this tight-knit community, are frantically searching the commissary, the px and local stores in the area, and quite honestly we are getting free samples from other moms and pediatricians and we are trading back and forth. somebody says, do you have this specific formula? no, i don't, but i have this one that may work. that's what is working with us here, and it's better than nothing at this point.

high poe allergenic formula is not an option. >> we are glad you got formula. can i say, the pictures of your baby, what a cutie pie, the bows and the whole thing puts a smile on your face in the midst of what has been a harrowing situation for you and so many other moms. let me ask you, finally, what would you like president biden to know? what would you ask him to do? >> i would like president biden not to rush the fda. we need safe, affordable formula for these children. i don't know how to do his job so i can't tell him how to do his job, but allowing these state programs like wic and snap

to give more different formulas than just similac. there are children on the verge of failure to thrive and that weighs heavy on me not only because i have a child but because i am sympathizing and empathetic to these families. it makes me upset to think that my neighbor's child may end up in the hospital because they can't eat. i hope president biden understands how serious this problem is. if i could tell him myself, i would surely sit down and explain how serious this is as a mom, as a military spouse, that it is so important that these babies are fed, not just here but everywhere there's a shortage. >> thank you so much, and we wish you all the best. we do appreciate you sharing your story.

let me bring in white house communications director, kate beckenfield. you talk to the moms and you hear them saying they feel like a failure and they are terrified and are hearing these interviews. >> her story is incredible powerful, and she's right about what she was saying about the need to be urgent and to be quick and safe, and what she was saying about the wic program is exactly right. it's exactly what president biden announced yesterday, that we are working while we have -- while we issued guidance we are working with states to lift the restrictions on wic, and so they can buy whichever brand and size of container is there on the shelf in front of them. that's one key way to make sure that consumers have maximum flexibility, maximum options,

and it also helps the manufacturers streamline their process, because they can produce one size and move quickly and bring it off their assembly line more quickly, so as you saw the president talked yesterday to two of the biggest manufacturers and retailers and they said that was the single biggest thing the administration could do to help alleviate this problem and move more product to stores. so she's an incredibly, incredibly powerful advocate for families across the country and president biden hears her and is doing everything in his power to make sure we are getting formula back on the shelves. >> wic does cover 3.6 million babies were born, and do you have a clear idea today, kate, how long parents might have to

wait until shelves are fully stocked again? >> we are working as quickly as possible, and president biden knows how incredibly stressful this is for families across the country. i am a mom and i know how incredibly stressful it is when you feel like you don't have what you need and when you are worried about being able to feed your child. the president is moving quickly and we are using all the tools available to us, and obviously this wic piece we were just talking about and working with the fda to bring in additional forms of formula from europe, and we are cracking down on price gouging and third-party sellers taking advantage of the moment to try to hoard and sell it at a higher rate, and so we are doing everything we can to get it back on the shelves. >> all the things the administration is doing, should they have done it sooner?

go back to at least last year, there was an fda inspection in 2021, more between january and march of this year, a big recall february 17th, so this is a crisis that's been building for months. could and should this shortage have been anticipated and frankly stopped before it got this bad. did somebody drop the ball? >> the administration started acting immediately, and there was a recall earlier this year and the administration began to cut red tape to ensure we were doing everything in our power to account for this, and we are seeing some encouraging signs about production, you know. both gerber and wrecket, two of

the biggest producers have production up, and there was more formula produced lately, and we are continuing to move. it's not enough. you have families across the country who are worried about where they are able to get the next can of formula, and we are working quickly to do everything in our power to ensure families have that security. >> before you joined us, i think it was in a break we got an update from the white house that president biden spoke this morning to the leaders of finland and sweden who are part of this move to join nato. can you release anything from that call, first of all, and how important this relationship is between these countries and nato? >> of course an important relationship. i don't have any further detail from that call just yet, i have been here talking to you, and

you have seen the president over the last few months has marshalled a unified response across europe, and believes standing together with our european partners is critical. >> thank you. a russian soldier is standing trial in kyiv for allegedly shooting and killing an unarmed ukrainian civilian. up next, what we know about the first war crimes trial of the invasion. then, is it on? is it off? elon musk says his plans to buy twitter is off, and then said he's not. what happens now? happens nowal.

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at all. four weeks since even before the invasion, secretary of defense, lloyd austin and general mark milley have been trying to get their russian counterparts on the phone, and the russians have not been responding or willing to set up a phone call. now we know that secretary austin was able to connect with russian defense minister shoeu tkpwaou today. secretary austin urged his russian counterpart to engage in a cease-fire to talk about negotiations and he urged him to keep open lines of communication, so to, in fact, take his calls in the future. there still have been no communications between general milley and his russian counterpart, and that's critical for two reasons. one is the two of them were known to speak relatively frequently before the russian

invasion of ukraine, and in addition to that, it's particularly telling given the reports just recently that the general was forwarded in a town in ukraine and may have injured. that's something the pentagon has not been able to confirm, and they are not sure if he was injured and how significant it was. but, again, there has been a break through, one opening here with the secretary of defense speaking with his russian counterpart today and not sure if that will lead to future conversations in the future, chris. >> if you hear from folks at the pentagon about why they think this finally happened, what was the calculous on the russian side? we would love you to come back and talk about that. >> thanks. and then take a look.

a 21-year-old russian soldier appearing in a glass cell. he's accused of shooting an unarmed 62-year-old ukrainian civilian in the head. his lawyer tells nbc news he surrendered to ukrainian forces on his own. and on the battlefield, russian forces lost large members and equipment. matt bradley is in kharkiv. i am also joined by hanna hopco, a former member of ukraine's parliament where she chaired the foreign affairs committee. thanks to both of you. matt, let me talk about the uk's ministry of defense, russian forces are pulling back from kharkiv, where you are. what can you tell us about what is happening on the ground there? >> reporter: chris, this was a city pummeled for months and months in the early days of the fighting, and this was an

administrative building like city hall, and they slammed a missile in this so you can see, and it has destroyed so much of the building all the way over here. the building was the heart and soul of the city, and back in 2014, the last time the russians invaded this country, pro russian protesters occupied this building and lofted a russian flag on here, and ukrainian protesters, pro-kyiv protesters took it and replaced it with a ukrainian flag. now we still hear gunfire and regular bombardments and they are very far away, but that doesn't change for everybody. there are people who are so traumatized, so scared that even as things go silent where i am now on the surface, they are still holed up in subway

stations below ground. they are still terrified, traumatized, really, and some won't week. i spoke with some of them in one of the subway stations here. a young boy. here's what he had to say. what is it like for you when you hear the shelling and the bombs? >> translator: i feel panic and i want to go to the bunker, he said. >> so you are glad when you get down here, you feel safe when you are here? >> yes. >> reporter: some of these children we spoke with, it's like a parallel society they set up in the subway stations. they have schools, kitchens and an address system to mark their tents, they have been there for so long. i ask some of these people, it's relatively safe on the surface, and the guns have fallen more or less silent and they just won't go upstairs, they are too terrified and they won't go until they have a final

assurance everything is safe, and we are starting to see that now, the ukrainians are pushing back the russians from the city. it's a remarkable thing, because as we saw back in kyiv, the capital, the russians withdrew and retreated, essentially. here, they are fighting back and it shows the ukrainians are getting the upper hand in the fight outside of kharkiv, and all of this, chris, before the bulk of the western weapons, the advanced weapons, the howitzers, and it's a big change. >> nick, extraordinary story on the military front. thank you as well, always, matt, about the stories you tell us about the real impact of the people there. take good care. thank you so much, matt. hanna, let me ask you -- i can't

imagine what goes through your mind as you see this, and a once-thriving city reduced to no population, and the population that is there including children underground. what goes through your mind? >> i think that every inch of ukrainian territory will be released from russian soldiers because of the bravery of the ukrainian armed forces, and the heavy weapons, heavy artillery, and anti-air defense, it's politically important ukraine defeats russia because it's a powerful signal to china not to be aggressively in the endo pacific region. and it's stopping russia, you cannot kill kids. and as a mom of an 11-year-old daughter, i want these kids now sitting in bomb shelters to be

in a safe place and to see my country, my beloved country free from the occupiers, and the compensations for all damages we have to receive. >> there are also questions from the very beginning of this about what would the consequences be, and we talked about the first war crimes trial getting under way. ukraine's top prosecutor says her office is looking into nearly 10,000 -- 10,000 potential war crimes, and they are asking content that can be archived for evidence in the crimes, and tell us about keeping all this evidence and the war crimes trials? >> i am thankful for the international community to help our official prosecutors to

collect all the evidences and to conduct the documentation. why it's important? because organized a man made famine and no punishment, so for the putin regime and russian society, they have to pay the price and through the international tribunals and through sanctions we have to confiscate and to help ukraine recover the economy, and give support to families who lost their sons, fathers, and the kids -- because many ukrainian kids they lost their fathers who are defenders of ukraine. of course, i am praying now and asking world leaders to help us to equate ukraine soldiers in

mariupol. in my friend there, she lost her husband just two days ago, and actually i think pope francis, president biden, president macron, u.n. leader general secretary gutierrez, and if they unite efforts they have to help equate people from mariupol. why? that's bravery. these people in mariupol they could give testimonies about war crimes in mariupol, so we need them alive. >> thank you so much. we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us today. back here in the u.s., the joy of college graduation and then the harsh reality of student loans. what kind of impact will that have on how they vote? t t have on how they vote?

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it's that time of year when students across the country celebrate a major milestone, graduating from college. but looming over this huge moment for many graduates is a massive sum of student loan debt because the cost of college has never been higher. joining me more on this, you spent talking to students graduating with big debt. what did they tell you? >> reporter: yeah, look, chris, this is a democratic stronghold and it's a county we continue to follow and it's one thing we continue to hear among people in the democratic face, there's frustration over the lack of action on student loans. now you have a graduating class here about to go through and get more loans and that frustration is still mounting. this morning in madison, a new class of college graduates. for some another round of crushing debt. >> i graduated with about $65,000 in student loan debt.

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voting. >> debt cancelation could impact voter turnout. 45% of voters in battle ground states say with $10,000 in debt cancelation, they are somewhat or more likely to vote in november. the number jumping to 60% in young voters. >> the longer this plays out the more the political opponents on the right are going to critique that and say this is not the way to go. >> the prospect of cancelation already facing legal opposition. >> and you think about those that did not go to college, where is their relief. >> reporter: experts do point out the biden administration has taken targeted steps to expand forgiveness for those that already qualify, but any wide

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are talking to the states making this case, that the number of border crossings is automatically linked to the number of fentanyl getting across the border. if he is going to make a ruling that would cause the lifting of covid restrictions, what impact would that have on drug smuggling? the states are saying the border needs to shut down to prevent illegal drugs from coming in. of course, it's illegal to bring illegal drugs across the border no matter what covid restrictions we have in place. he is saying that the rule is too expansive, title 42 should never have been something that the cdc had the power to do, this is immigration and shouldn't be on cdc to be able to shut down border traffic due to covid. what we are getting at is that this is a judge who we thought might be very sympathetic to the states who want to keep the restrictions in place. we know he already ordered a temporary restraining order to keep the government from lifting this before the may 23rd date and we know that he is a trump

appointee and had been quick to make that temporary restraining order after the last set of oral arguments. now it seems like he might be pressing the republican states. he wants more information on why they want a preliminary injunction. what they are asking for is a higher bar. they want the federal government to be prevented from lifting title 42 on may 23rd. he is pushing them for more evidence. >> this comes, of course, as the number of illegal crossings at the border hit a 22-year high in march. what are officials doing to prepare for the end of the policy if it's struck down? >> they are rushing more personnel to the border so they can then interview asylum seekers as soon as they cross the border and make quick decisions on who can stay and who will be deported. people we have talked to say they are still worried that they could be overwhelmed and face a big backlog in health care and

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good day, everyone. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. we are standing by for a potential ruling by a federal judge in louisiana that could block the biden administration from lifting title 14, the trump area pandemic restriction. the latest from the courthouse in a moment. covid cases are rising with booster rates lagging among older americans. president biden's chief medical advisor dr. anthony fauci joining me later. a shortage of babe