do you think she would be proud of you and what you've accomplished? >> i think she would. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. welcome to the show. i'm zerlina maxwell. congressional democrats are asking tech counted companies to save condo that could be used as russian war crimes this becomes evident as they begin their first war trial since the start of the invasion. meanwhile, president biden is working to re-energize the global community in the fight against covid-19, as the u.s. has now passed 1 million deaths due to the virus.

they are praising the return of rapper kendrick lamar. we will go through the messages behind his new music later on in the show. first, we begin with an extraordinary step in the house investigation into the january 6th insurrection. five sitting republican members of congress have been subpoenaed by the committee, each of them believed to have relevant information about the attack on the u.s. capitol and the events that led up to it. scott perry was the first lawmaker to ask to be asked to voluntarily testify. they received evidence that he was involved to oust trump's for not pursuing the baseless fraud claims that would spiral into the big lie. the committee soon after reached out to ohio congressman jim jordan. they say that he was in communication with president trump on january 6th and participated in several meetings about overturning the

election. the committee says that arizona lawmaker andy biggs, worked with state officials that the election was stolen. he also was alleged to be part of the january 6th insurrection and try to stop the counting of electoral votes. south carolina law maker told rally members on january 6th to quote, start taking down names and kicking ass. the problem with that, he stated that trump asked him to rescind the 2020 election. finally, though a bevy of leaked audio recordings exist, we know that house speaker kevin mccarthy baird responsibility for the attack. the committee says, the top republicans spoke with trump before, during, and after the insurrection. they want to know what he had to say. is not every day that we see members of congress get subpoenaed by congress. it feels unprecedented.

as jamie raskin says, so was the insurrection. >> an attempted coup and a violent insurrection at the capitol, interrupted the trees will pass for transfer of power and they are unprecedented events. people have asked, does this issue a president for those in the future if there are coups and insurrections? i suppose that it does. >> all five lawmakers have claimed their subpoenas as a partisan attack, and abuse of power. none have committed to appear before the committee. joining with me -- members of congress may have been involved in efforts to overturn the election and plan the events that we saw happen on january 6th. what is your reaction to the subpoenas? >> it is unprecedented. i agree with raskin and his

point. what is doing all this is a violent riot to block the peaceful transfer of power and reverse the outcome of an election. to be fair and put pressure on the january six committee, i'm surprised that the subpoenas did not come earlier. the reality is, the midterms are months away. these republicans will refuse to testify. it is very likely that this will have no effect. i think that the committee has been very aggressive in their effective jobs, but i am surprised that it has taken this long to issue subpoenas. >> it is an important point to mention the timing out of all of this. well we have seen in the past's court challenges delay this process to the point where as you said, it could go up to the midterms and not matter any longer, especially if the house changes into a republican majority. what does it say about this

moment in history of this credibility of congressional oversight as a whole idea, is being challenged by members of the same body, themselves, and in context of an attack on the capitol. when you say the sentence out loud and complete it, unprecedented might not even be strong enough. >> it is extraordinary. the leader of the republican party, kevin mccarthy, has been subpoenaed. it is extraordinary. tapes have been released where he condemns of what has been done. then it also shows the complete breakdown of basic norms in congress. the only republican and person taking the biggest political risk is lewis cheney. she is undoubtedly an enormous danger for the upcoming primary that she faces in a wyoming in

august. she's taking an alum of a political risk. the process has evolved. everything keeps evolving from january six on. it is astonishing. i just want to make a note here that he is the one from pennsylvania and was pushing the crazy idea of using the justice department. people don't hear about it as much. it is one of the most powerful agencies in the federal government. and you are going to oust the acting attorney general to have a trump bump it in place to carry out a sham federal justice department investigation to reverse the election. it is outrageous. it is unprecedented. richard nixon didn't even do things like this. it is amazing what's happening. we will see what plays out in these hearings that are going to start soon in june. it is a big and fraught moment.

>> one of the things i thought of today as i saw kevin mccarthy's reaction to the subpoenas, he essentially criticized the committee as a partisan, i am old enough to remember the kevin mccarthy of the benghazi hearings. i want to play a sound about him talking about the benghazi hearings. if you all for carl, hillary till hillary clinton showed up to testify for 11 hours during that hearing. let's take a look what he said back then. >> everyone thought that hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? we put together a benghazi special committee. a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? he is not a trusted. no one would have noted this happened if someone fought and made something happen. >> is the existence of this information dilute their argument that this committee, which includes two republicans, as a partisan witch hunt? >> look, this is politics.

these are talking points. i think there is a huge difference between the benghazi investigation and the january six committee investigation. the events of january six arm from more serious. benghazi was exaggerated by republicans. the danger for the committee, -- the first prime time hearing will be on thursday tonight. the january six committee has to give a dramatic presentation and new evidence that makes the american public see how differences and see how serious this is. this is a coup attempt. if they do not do that, as you said, we devolve into this culture of congressional investigations that are attempts to smear each side. republicans are more extreme about that. benghazi was completely exaggerated by the republicans. that is so bad for democracy. congress is used to sling mud at the other side. it was different for the iran contra bad investigation.

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down roe v. wade, americans will lose a core constitutional right. and that would have so many far-reaching consequences. because if a person does not have the right to control their own body, how can they possibly be equal citizens under the law? as united nations populations fund has said quote, bodily autonomy is the foundation upon which other human rights is built. and perhaps, no one better understands what it means to have your bodily autonomy violated, then survivors of sexual assault. if a sexual salts is not just physical violence. it is also psychological violence, that attacks your coal sense of self. one public figure, who has spoken out about deeply and personally experiencing sexual assault, in her own life, and the need for abortion rights, is congresswoman gwen moore. to share her experience on the

house for ten years, ago during the debate over the violence against women act. congressman war joins us now. thank you so much for being with us today. >> thank you for having with me selina. >> i want to ask you about the connections between abortion rights, and this whole idea, of bodily autonomy. can you talk about how your own personal experience as a survival of sexual assault, impact your belief that everyone should have control over what happens to their own body? >> there's absolutely no debate, about whether or not, sexual assault is connected with your own physical autonomy and emotional autonomy. it always stuns me, that warriors, when men are warning, one of the main war crimes that they committed against people's rape. because of the devastation,

that it brings along with it. and, having control of your body, is just fundamental to having any kind of rates. it's certainly, the choice to whether or not be a parent, is so closely tied to not only your economic well-being, your health, but your capacity and ability a mentally and emotionally to give a child what they deserve. and that is a loving, available parent. >> it is important. you have also shared your story of having an abortion in the early 70s, before roe v. wade, when you are 19 years old, and already had one child. your point about economic status. let's listen. >> i had no, obviously occupational preparedness, for the work world. in when i became pregnant the second time, i was desperate for an abortion. i had a network of white,

feminists, middle class women that i could reach out to, and i was sent to what was then, the women's fund. and i never thought for one second, that i did something that was wrong for me, or my family. >> what struck me there, is it was a woman's network, that head to help you get out of the state of new york, four in abortion procedure, when people are facing that exact situation in the year 2022. lay out how it seems, we're going backward on reproductive freedom, and what this will mean for black and low income people in particular. >> that is exactly right. i think this is the reason why, people have really talked about the impact this will have on a lot of low wage, low income women, and people of color. they will not have the option to come up with a couple of thousand dollars, like that, to travel. even if they can, we have

looked at this, go to 300 miles, to spend the night, get daycare, it will be impossible for some women to get it. and then, a pregnancy will be something that will overwhelm, not only them, but their entire family, and communities. i don't want anybody to miss the point. that the same perpetuator's of forcing pregnancy on women, and families, are the same people, that do not want to give them food stamps, where, child health care, and are aggrieved by the number of children that are born on medicaid. they do not want children at the border, who are refugees from all kinds of problems to get any care. i think it's totally and completely hypocritical. >> why do you think the democrats could be saying in this particular moment, to make it clear in the voters mind, what is at stake. we are talking about a court

constitutional right. as we have discussed, it impacts so many aspects of your life. if you cannot control your reproduction, you cannot control anything else. >> i think you said it really well as alina. people may, selfishly say that doesn't affect me, i'm not a woman, or i'm postmenopausal, or i'm asexual or whatever. but just take your favorite personal freedom in right. it is on the table now. our constitution, once the 14th amendment to the constitution was passed, that was put an amendment to the constitution, that superseded all of these so-called states rights and states laws and states ability to discriminate, among people. to give people equal protection. the ability to marry outside their race. the ability to educate your children the way you want to. the ability for same sex

marriage. or the ability to give birth control. are all predicated, on this notion, that emanates from the 14th amendment. in the ninth amendment quite frankly. that even these raids are not enumerated. these are personal freedoms, that we all honor. think about, it they cannot knock on your door insert your house because of the fourth amendment of the constitution, without a warrant. but they can make you remain pregnant. it doesn't make sense. >> i mean, miss tell has great arguments for most reasons why this is unconstitutional. based on many amendments. the ninth amendment, the eight amendments also the 14th amendment. and the 13th amendment. but i wanted to also ask you about maternal mortality. i think you made a really, really good point about them going after contraception. you have attacks on access to

contraception on the front end, and then you are eliminating access to abortion on the back end. we already know black americans, the rate of maternal mortality is nearly three times the rate for white people who can get pregnant. what is it say about republican lawmakers that ban abortion, but they don't want to do anything to keep people from being pregnant in the first place. >> thank you so much for lifting up maternal mortality, especially among women of color. african american. it's 23 times the rate is a crisis level. i'm working legislatively on that as well. with that being said, it is such a hypocrisy, that people do not care about maintaining the right to abortion. abortion, preserves women's health as well. having the right to an abortion, is something that should not be left between a woman and her doctor. in not imposed, and everyone,

because people have their own individual needs. my own personal experience, i just did not have the capacity, financially, physically, i was not trained to do anything. i did not have the capacity. and i had family, basically holding me up. i had no capacity, to have a second child. and i think that was a decision, that was, that i appreciate it having. i have a daughter, three granddaughters, and two great granddaughters. and i can honestly be subjective to a lack of freedom, in autonomy of your body. >> congressman gwen moore, thank you so much for being here today. please stay safe. coming, up house committee chairs are asking from big tech when it comes to the war in ukraine. we will be right back. the war i ukraine. we will be right back.

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devastating invasion of ukraine, the first war trial has begun and give it where he is charged with allegedly sitting a 62-year-old ukrainian man to death in an open car window. it is the first of many war crime trials of russian soldiers, as the un now says that over 100,000 bodies of civilians have been recovered in the kyiv region alone. as they work to gather evidence of possible war crimes, one place they are looking's social

media. ben collins wrote the story that four house committee chairs have been asked to on facebook to preserve all content that can be used as evidence of russian war crimes. ben collins joins us now. when people scroll through their timeline on social media feeds and see firsthand reports of killings, rapes, and other war crimes in ukraine, i don't think you are thinking in the moment that i should've favorite this or save it for a possible war crimes tribunal in the future. lay this out for us. we'll kind of post on social media could be used as evidence? why is it so important for social media companies to archive these images? >> it is not only us, you and i, who are going to the photos and videos. it is also facebook's moderation machine. it is the automated machines that go through this and try to flag violent content and take it down before most people see them. they are doing that. they are taking down these videos of atrocities.

this is what they are meant to do. things like mass shootings, these come down quicker because the system works. in terms of war crimes trials, you need things to exist. independent researchers flagged them, grab them, and show them at trials in the future. that is what we have learned in the last couple of days. the house oversight committee, the house of foreign affairs committee, both came together and said, look, you need to preserve this stuff. you don't need to show it to users but you need to make an archive out of it for any future u.s. investigation into russia or crimes. >> what's fascinating about this is it is not just a potential war crimes and rights violations, you will report about conspiracy theories and misinformation. about questioning things like the massacre in bucha, which were shared more often on facebook's which were sent out more often than the ones as they they were actually

happened. -- are these also being archived and factor into this larger, i suppose, record that we are trying to create here? >> it is another instance of those systems that are supposed to protect users which are actually doing the opposite. you saw those horrific videos of bucha of that massacre that happened there. you may have seen on twitter or other websites, but facebook the prioritizes videos, they push them back and took them down entirely by mistake. hashtag abuja was banned from search for a minute. facebook admitted it was a mistake. in the week after that, according to ease the, a nonprofit that tracks this stuff, conspiracy theories about boo just saying it did not happen and that it was a false flag or that the ukrainians did it, these received more play on facebook. this was in the numbers of hundreds or thousands of posts

and shares than the actual reality that was going on. it was a situation that was trying to protect users but fed them conspiracy theories instead. >> how new is using social media postings as evidence in these war crime tribunals compared to as the past where they would use documents, a photographs, and reporting? >> it is new. people are getting very good at it. russia has outlined the playbook by mistake in syria, in part because all of the collection, the data collection from syria, to prove that these were crimes that they were trying to hide in the past, they are doing the same stuff in ukraine. researchers in bellingcat and places like the new york times, they know where to look and they know the narratives that the russians are going to push to say that this does not happen, it is a false flag, or something like that. they know to look past these narratives. it is new. the collection of these things

in a war crimes trial would be brand new. whenever this ends, if it ends, and bring into a criminal court is going to be different in the age of social media. marking them in the moment, this is posted on this day, using this metadata, making it so it is quantifiable, is very important. that is with the letters are all about. >> in the last minute here, what is the response from the companies? do you think they will comply with these kinds of requests? >> typically, they do. they are not a very binding. they can be, they can be made binding. they have the ability to enforce this stuff. twitter and facebook, probably take top, and google, who also got these letters, generally want to help with this stuff. they made mistakes and they admit it to it. facebook does not admit to a lot, but in the last month or two, they realized this is a grave situation. they will probably comply with

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today, we mark a tragic milestone here in the united states. 1 million covid deaths. 1 million empty chairs around the empty dinner table. we are in a new stage in fighting this pandemic. facing involving set of challenges. we have to double down on our efforts to get shots in peoples arms. country by country, community by community. >> that was president biden thursday at the second global 19 summit. president encouraging world leaders to get combat covid-19, while also calling on congress to provide funding, for tests vaccines and treatments.

-- issuing a dire warning, that quote, americans immune protections from the virus, is waning. the virus is adapting to be more contagious, and booster doses for most people will be necessary. with the potential for enhanced protection, from a new generation of shots. joining me now to discuss, is the cofounder of an organization aimed at providing accurate, science-based information. and amplifying the voices of those most impacted by covid-19. kristen, you tweeted something that struck me. 1 million lives lost, and tonight happens to be the week will mark by covid community meeting. if you want to be around others who know, number one this is preventable, number two the pandemic is not over, and number three our losses must be recognized. this is your space. i mean, how are you processing the fact that 1 million americans, have died?

>> i don't even know how i am processing. i am worried right now, that there is a not enough processing going around. the announcement yesterday by the president, was just a blip, in comparison to what really is needed, for all of us to recognize the horrific loss of lives, that we have gone through. and, i fear that what we are getting from our leaders, from the top down, is just thoughts and prayers, and we need action now. to not only remember those that we have already lost. but to prevent other preventable deaths. >> when we talk about 1 million americans, dying i think when it's a number this large, it is hard to really put into real terms. and to talk about it as if these are real people and real

families. it's not just the million people that have died. that is 1 million families, that have been impacted by grief and the loss of a loved one. they will never be the same. how should the rest of us recognize the gravity of the losses, that american families have experienced in this pandemic, including your own? and how do we start talking about this, and getting out of this habit of thinking we can go back to normal. you cannot go back to before the pandemic. >> thank you so much for asking that question, it is the question we need to be asking ourselves at the moment. do we want to normalize mass death? or do we want to build bridges of empathy. another way to think about it is, what would you do if, overnight, the city of san jose, california, disappeared. in everyone in it. i think we would all be shocked, horrified. we would reach out to those around us, who we knew had loved ones in san jose, california. in say what can we do? what happened?

and then we would demand answers. answers from our leaders, of how could this have happened? that is the exact same approach we need to take to this slow-moving disaster. 1 million people, is the tenth alleges largest city in the united states. in the thing that makes this so infuriating, to people who have lost loved ones, is we know most of these deaths, along the entire way, were preventable. and we are not doing enough, to slow the spread right now, to keep our most vulnerable population safe. in january and february, 42% of people who passed, were vaccinated. in that is not because vaccines do not work. that is because, the immunocompromised, the elderly, the people who are recovering from cancer, are sub coming to severe covid. if that does not shake you to your core, you are not paying

attention. >> what is your message in the last minute here, for other families like yours, who are trying to process this grief in a world where this pandemic is over? >> the gaslighting has been really hard. it is easy to doubt oneself. but that is why i sent that message out on social media, marked by covid is a community, that is of folks who know that these losses are real. that they were profound, in that if we continue to share our stories, we can hold our elected officials, old ones and new ones to account. to not only recognize our losses and prevent this from happening again, but to make movement and things like the wto trips waiver, and getting vaccines around the world. to bringing up the issue of what are we doing to prevent this in the first place? from spillover events? our stories, are the power behind really bringing that real life urgency, to making

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ongoing pandemic, appears to be leading to another devastating consequence. a historical high rate of arm homicide rate. it increased by 35%, the highest level recorded in over 25 years. the largest increase was among black people. the rate among black men and boys was 21 times a higher, as high, for the rate of young white men and boys in the same age group. to discuss is the cofounder of a life, and an organization on the front lines of gun violence prevention, -- erica, i'm so glad to see you. i'm grateful that you are taking the time. when you think is causing the huge spike in gun violence and gun homicide across the country? >> so, i think as your last guest talked about, 1 million people died of covid. when we looked at 1 million people dying of covid, what is an impact of that vicariously

to the families around? what is the lack of ability to get outside? what is the lack of ability to get engaged with the people that you used to work with that help to deal with your trauma and the things that make you want to even think of picking up a gun? the access to more guns in our community all played a role in giving rise to the numbers that we see happening. as they talked about preconditions of covid, the preconditions of violence is poverty. if people do not have access to these same resources that we see in other communities, these numbers are not the same in other communities. one thing with covid, it affected everybody. it affected us more because of our worsened conditions in our community. the same thing with gun violence. it is not happening in other communities. why works in other communities,

let's implement it in our community. let's give our children and access to hope and the ability to go outside and play. we don't even have community centers. >> accessing hope, to your point, and thinking through trauma informed solutions of this problem as opposed to old solutions to this problem and incarcerating people, what do you think we should be doing so that we center the trauma and the lived experiences of people and giving them economic opportunities, access to quality housing, healthy food, education? we know the answers, as you said. >> yes, yes, we know the answers. as we do in new york, it is a holistic approach. we address gun violence as a public health crisis and as a disease. therefore, we are dealing with what is happening to that individual, what is happening to that family. we are providing them with therapeutic services. we provide them with job

opportunities. we provide them with a wraparound mentorship and day-to-day coaching to help get them through the barriers that they are faced with on a day-to-day basis. we intervene and work with them and the nypd to show up differently in our community, to coproduced public safety. the trauma that they experienced four years can be a shifted. anywhere they are, we are there. we are working to coproduced with the different systems that show up in their lives. we need to get equity and resources, right. we get point 000 1% of the budget that the and why pd gets ten billion. we have to look at where we are investing. we just took billions of dollars to ukraine for their families and children, while our families and children need to have access to prosperity. they need to have access to resources that can help make a

difference. let the build back better, the five billion dollars in the build back better, let that pass and invest in the groups around the country that are doing the work with no resources to help alleviate the pain and change the lives of these young people and families in our communities throughout the nation. >> we have one more minute here. in the next conversation, we are talking about trauma. kendrick lamar has an album. in it he says that hurt people hurt people. talk about the which -- title the ways in which every day on the ground you are trying to create space that people can heal from their trauma. >> we have a piece mobile where we mobilize peace and mobilize healing. we understand that trauma is in the beginning, the middle, and the end of violence. we are facing generational trauma of years of not being given the resources to help us heal, to help us transform. our children in the 80s and 90s were taken out of their homes

in the crack epidemic and given ridgeland, authorities, in and broken up from their families. this will cause more trauma. it is vicariously going from generation to generation. we have to help people heal. we need more peace mobiles in the communities, more therapeutics experiences, more groups echelons, one-on-one, and needs to be invested in and have resources. >> open healing. erica ford, thank you so much for joining us today. please stay safe. coming up, he does it for the culture. we will talk about kendrick lamar's a video and about how his new music speaks directly to the black community. we will be right back. the blackouthwash. we will be right back.

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thinkorswim® by td ameritrade rap bans everywhere celebrating the return of kendrick lamar. after five years of waiting, he released his fifth studio album on friday. mr. morale in the big step are. 's it's too soon to every review, but my producers tell me it's great. ahead of its release, kendrick was already making headlines over his latest single. it's part of a years-long series, in which kendrick comments on the state of hip-hop culture, and its impact on the black community. in a music video for the song, kendrick uses deep face technology, to transform him into six people. all black men, who have faced their fair share of success and controversies. one msnbc opinion column is

rates, it's to make us face the pain upon famous black man's actions in the role they serve in shaping the broader community. joining us now to discuss, is the author of the piece, a cultural journalist, editor. kendrick lamar is known for his ability to speak directly in authentically to the black community, well channeling their pain, to send really a complex and nuanced message. and please help us understand the message he is sending here. >> kendrick lamar is one of our culture's favorite storytellers. the reason why he has been designated for some people in the hip-hop culture, as a go of that community, in one of the greatest to ever do, it is because he is so able to communicate what is happening, within black american communities specifically. and then even more particularly, urban black communities. black people who are learning in the living inner cities. because of that, this particular video is talking really deeply, about the pain that black people are facing

right now. particularly as it relates to gun violence. within urban communities. he transforms himself, particularly into the hustle at the end of this video. one of his closest, friends his comrades and hip-hop. who was gunned down in front of his own store. in march of 2019. and so he is talking about the pain that black men in particular are facing, in the ways that communicate that pain, is so often violent. it does deem how it's rerouting from the inside, out but also the community as a whole. >> so you mentioned nikki hustle, he uses the deepfake to turn into conway, yes kobe bryant, will smith, in your piece, specifically speaking about nipsey hussle, and what kendrick says, you write, lamar recognizes that those who are hurt, feel compelled to hurt others. even if, they are unable to articulate their reasoning. when you think about how we

demi humanized black man in america, how does this allow us to at least have a deeper empathy, for them, and their experiences that they've been her, to understand why they may perpetuate harm, and others. does it help us reject the idea, that anybody is 100 percent good, or 100 percent bad? >> absolutely. i think we often -- black man. we're often meeting them after they have committed harm. all of the man that kendrick lamar transforms into, from will smith, to nipsey hussle, all we have seen all of then sometimes at their worst moments, in our pop culture, in in our cultural imagination. and by transforming into, them and speaking about what causes, that in a way he is humanizing them. we are often meeting black men after they have been incarcerated. or after that we cease will smith put his hands on someone

at the oscars. or after they fabricated crime. kendrick lamar, is asking us to interrogate ourselves, and interrogate our culture, to figure out why this is happening. and by doing, that it allows us to see blackmon's hold, people who do bad things, and good things. but they are not just the sum of the worst decision they are ever made. it really is a combination of really everything they've ever done. he is able to articulate that, far better than anyone's ever seen, to be honest on record. >> quickly before we go. i know it's only been a day, but what is the reaction to the album? any thoughts? >> it's a phenomenal album. is it is best, no? i'm deeply enjoying listening to, it i've been enjoying it since it was released last night. i think it's something worth everybody's times. it's one of his best projects, and it's already incredible work. >> thank you so much for being here today. please stay safe. that does it for me, i'm zerlina, you can find me monday

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