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because of the color of their skin. the 18-year-old suspect traveled more than 200 miles to this destination after apparently writing and manifesto, detailing his racism and white nationalism. he came heavily armed and prepared to do damage. and now sits in his cell under suicide watch after surrendering to police. >> i'm not going to mention this individual by name, he doesn't deserve that. he should never mention his name. as far as we're concerned, he is in made control number 157103. >> that's the mayor. in a moment, i'm going to talk to your county da, sean flynn about the suspect. but for this community, it's not about the suspect but about the victims. a series of officials already being held to mourn those lost, i talk to new york governor kathy hochul oh earlier today. >> this was a blatant act of hate, it was a hate crime, it
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was white supremacy terrorism, all say that white, terrorism. and it was racism at its worst. >> and president biden echoing those sentiments in appearance at a police memorial where he and once again fingers are pointed at congress and the inability to get anything done. to fight the kind of shooting and the growing threat of domestic terrorism that represents. we're going to talking about that ahead as well. on the ground, i spoke to some of the areas residents who had gathered at the scene of the shooting. here is what some of them told. me >> you guys need to teach your children and your family to love one another. the thing that the murderer that took place yesterday was because of learned behavior at home, at his dinner table. that's the hate that his mother and father fed him. we as a people, as a community, we are fed. love we love one another, i don't care how many times we fight and argue, we still love one another. you don't see us coming to your
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communities, killing people. shooting your daughters and your mother and your aunts and uncalled, no. you, you have to reassure your own community to love one another. and other ones that don't look like them. >> i want to see change. since george floyd, we haven't seen any change. and we had a lot of missing people in buffalo and we haven't seen a change from that tonight. and i really want to see change because we literally just had one of, probably the worst shooting in buffalo in the history of buffalo. ali since i've been alive. i'm angry because nothing is being done by the police, the police are being held accountable in a manner because nothing is being done for black people. nothing is being done in our community. >> so as you heard there, this community is rattled, it is heartbroken over this tragic shooting. the alleged gunman armed with guns and racist hate in his car, -- came here to take as many black lives as possible. authorities have described it as racially motivated violent
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extremism. turning now, buffalo mayor byron brown. may around, thanks for joining us. >> pleasure to be with you. >> i have talked to some people out here today. so angry, so rattled by what took place and what's rightfully so because ten of their neighbors, people that come shop here every single day are now dead because of the color of their skin. what have you been telling these people? >> i've been telling them that we are a loving community. we are the city of good neighbors. we're hurting, we're angry, we are in shock. but we have to stand together. we have to show the nation and the world the kind of loving community that we are. and not let this break us. yes, we are bow, we are hurts but we can't be broken. >> not let this fracas. but from what i'm hearing in this community, some of them already feel broken. they feel forgotten, they feel as if not enough resources are put in this community, into the education system here. this grocery store, now shut down. there's no grocery store now
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for 2 to 3 myers for these people to go shop for eggs, for milk, for orange juice. they need more resources, they're telling me. they need more money to feel as if matter. >> lot of resources are coming. the governor and i have spoken to the president and ceo of tops. asking for the store to be opened as reopened as quickly as possible. tops will be provided transform it from people in this community to other supermarkets in their network. they will be providing remote opportunities for people to access food in this community. we will work together, as a community, we will get through this. we will build hope. we will build opportunity. and a tremendous amount of resources will be flowing, not only into this community, in buffalo, but communities all across the city of buffalo. >> how do you address the systemic racism, they feel like exist in this community. not only in this community, in
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the state, in this country that has fueled the hatred that drove that individual to shoot 13 people, ten of which lost their lives. how do you address? that >> we address it by standing up as a community. by the teachings that our fathers and mothers have given us. throughout the ages. systemic racism just didn't occur, there have been hundreds of years of racism in this nation against black people. we were taught to work twice as hard to be role models, to be examples to others. to show our brilliance in our beauty. that's the same teaching that we have to in carve to members of our community now. and we have to stop hate, the governor of this in new york spoke powerfully and persuasively about what we need to do to stop hate on the internet and social media. that's critically important.
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this person, that committed this crime, was full of hate in his heart and his head and he was indoctrinated in white supremacist thinking. that in large measure, it seems like he got from the internet. >> how do you stop hate when you have a portion of the country that doesn't want you to address the history of this country hasn't racism? >> we have to stand up strong but we have to push that part of the country. we cannot sit by silently and let people sweep racism and hatred under the rug. we have to stand up to those who don't want sensible gun control in this country. yes, this was a racially motivated mass shooting. but there have been hundreds of mass shootings in this country. it is a uniquely american phenomenon, mass shootings. we have to have sensible gun control. >> last thing, mayor. i spoke to a woman earlier
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today who was a witness to the shooting inside tops. her and her 14-year-old daughter held at gunpoint by the shooter. told he was going to kill her. and she fled with the shooter, do not kill me, do not kill my baby, take me, do not kill my baby, take me. >> she was able to get away, somehow. she says my god's grace, she was able to get away. she's alive today, her 14-year-old is alive today. what do you say to her? this community is going to -- be you don't recover easily for something like this. >> when i say to them is people care. it is a blessing that they survived, this shouldn't happen in this community. it shouldn't happen anywhere. we have to continue to stand together, the prayerful. this is a strong and loving community. this will get through together. there will be grief counseling for members of this community that have been traumatized but we must stand together as a community. buffalo has gone through trials and tribulations but we are
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buffalo strong. we are a strong community. we will get through this. >> thank you, mayor. i appreciate it. good to talk to you today. >> thank. you >> want to bring in erie county j.a., john flynn, who has already announced a felony murder charge for this company suspect. faces a sentence of life in prison with parole. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. i want to read, for folks, some of the same that you put out there about some of these charges. just mentioned some of them there. but wanting to add on to it. and you wrote this, my office is working closely with the u.s. attorney's office and our partners in law enforcement into potential terrorism and hate crimes. this is an active investigation and additional charges may be filed. you also want to say this, there is evidence the shooting may have been racially motivated, something that would trigger a mere law covering domestic acts of terrorism motivated by race. which carries a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole. can you give us an update on
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this? >> sure,, yasmin we are, as i stated there, currently investigating all aspects of this horrific alleged shooting. we are, we have already, as you said, have the highest murder charge here in new york, already been filed. murder in the first degree. now that we have one charge that's been filed, we can kind of use that charge in piggyback on that charge to take it in the grand jury. so the next step is going to be a felony hearing which is scheduled on thursday. that's either going to be waived for proof of gran torino held for a grand jury. so once that happens, we now have 45 days to bring this to fruition with a grand jury. once we get in a grand jury, and i'm already kind of in that posture right now. i can add as many additional
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charges that i want, again, as long as i have the evidence. and obviously, the domestic terrorism motivated by hate is one of the potential charges that we cut out on. >> did somebody drop the ball here? i asked the governor this, obviously when we learned of the mental health issues this individual had in his past. we also know at one point he was in police custody. and made threats online. was the ball dropped? here >> i don't know. this alleged incident happened in a broom county which is down where he lives. as you said, earlier some three half hours away. there was an alleged incident about some threat to a school. i'm not going to comment on what happened down in broome county. i can tell you that law enforcement in buffalo had no idea who this kid was. he was never on our radar. and he was never on the fbi's radar either.
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so again, what happened down and broom county. i'm not privy to so i'm not gonna comment on that. >> i want to ask you something else. because communities are so brothers up to me. and you may not have an answer to this but is the way in which the shooter was taken into custody. we have talked a lot about police brutality towards black men and women in this country. some of which has been pulled over and shot unarmed. shot by police officers but unarmed. many members of the community it looked at how the shooter was taken into custody. and said, if in fact he was a black man, he would've been shot point blank. he had three different firearms on him when he was taken into custody. what do you say to that criticism? >> i say that the police acted obviously properly, in this case. win the call came out for an active shooting incident, when the police caught their, when they immediately entered hops store. he was right there in front of
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them, allegedly with the gun pointed at his head. so they, there was no threat to anyone else at that time right there. so obviously, the police would have been justified in shooting, if there was a threat to another individual at that time. but when they encountered him, he only had the gun to his own head. and the police did the right thing and talked him down. and said, please, put the gun down, which he did right away. so they acted totally properly here. obviously, they wanted to save as many lives as possible. they didn't want any more lives being taken or gone here. and when he complied right away and dropped his weapon right away, the incident was over. as far as any kind of an active shooter. so the procedures that were followed, the things that were
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done, quite frankly, i believe saved lives. >> this rigatoni jon flynn, thank you, we appreciate you joining us today. so the alleged gunman's next scheduled court appearance, as the certainly just said, going to be on thursday morning for a felony hearing. joining us now is cedric alexander, nbc law enforcement analyst interim president of noble, the national organization of black law enforcement executives. cedric, thanks for joining us, we appreciate it. i want to pose to the question that i posed to just returnee and that is the way in which the shooter was taken into custody. and i've heard a lot of this community, right, had the shooter been a black man, they feel as if things would've gone differently. he was armed, he had three for your arms on him at the time. and i believe he was pointing one of those firearms at his own neck. we have talked many times, you and i especially, about black men, unarmed, being pulled over by police. and being shot.
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what do you make of that, comparison? >> you know, one of the challenges you've got to have to keep in mind that this, yasmin, i think the american people know better than anyone. if you looked at the number of unarmed black men that have been shot and killed by police, it's undeniable. and there's data to support that. and when you have an incident such as this that occurred where a person goes in full of hate and clearly hate, and already been recognized as being a hate crime. and he goes in and he kills innocent people. and then he walks out and then for whatever reason, he was able to survive that incident when he encountered police. now the police could've been very well within the right and did what they supposed to do, not to fire. but i think the perception here, and we have to deal with the reality of it is, the perception here by people of color. there is something here wrong and it creates this continued type of concern in cause with
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people of color in this country. because they also saw the same thing happen back in south carolina at the church. so i, and i think all of us really, all of us have to consider the fact, when you have people across -- this country, regardless of whether the white or black or sit on the left or the right. who raised this issue. we should not be thinking about pushing police into doing something they should not be doing. but we should be encouraging and be concerned about the perception of these images of -- that are being shot and killed that are unarmed. and you have a lone gunman who happened to be white go in and very discriminatory go in and kill a number of people, black people, a good people and two whites who were there as well. and people raise that question. and it's a reasonable question to raise. but i like the da stated, and indicated there, he was given
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an opportunity strap of him. but the people of color in this country, they don't ever see that opportunity. and when they -- >> and you brought up -- >> here again, you consistently see men of color who are unarmed who get shot and killed. >> and you brought it up but it seems as if this is a community that feels as if it's under attack. it speaks to the larger issue, hence the reason why they brought it up. i was at mother emanuel church and -- when he walked into that church an open fire despite the fire and he was invited into sit in those pews amongst the parishioners. i was there, i cover that. and in this community, i'm hearing much of the same. it's a committee that feels as if it's under attack, at war, really, we're covering the war overseas in ukraine. this community feels as we're already. the black unity feels a war. >> and i think you have to be concerned. we all need to be concerned and sensitive to the fact of people of color there in buffalo, new york, and across this country. if it is a concern for them, they need to be a concern for
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all of us. and in there, where you continue to have this separation between police and community. any incident that occurs is going to create a different pause and different concern and a different experience from people of color in this nation. we are so off the center now, yasmin, it's and a point that we're not connecting. and what we have a failure here, in my opinion in this country, is a lack of leadership on so many different levels. there has been a refusal at the federal level to come up with some real reform. and we keep, and they keep having the same, they keep talking about the same thing over and over and over. but it's going to get to a point, it's got to get 12 point before we go further down this road, without dealing with the reality of people who feel they're being treated very differently. then we're going to continue to be at this cross, at this path, where we're going to just terribly socially divided.
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and this is, and what happened in buffalo, and we have to remember this. there are people that community -- as a result of that infant who have been horribly traumatized. people who go into a grocery store, go into a school, but in this case a targeted group of people. african americans. in other places, people who have been asian. so we have a problem here, an issue here in this nation, at every level is going to have to be dealt with. >> cedric alexander, we thank you. our live coverage from buffalo continues. we'll be right. back we'll be right back n instantly start saving on your travels. so you can go and see all those, lovely, lemony, lemons. and never wonder if you got a good deal. because you did.
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hatred, right? like this is not something that unfortunately is new to anybody of color. this we know the racist no matter how people try to sweep it under the rug of something that was happening that long ago, it's not. this is an ongoing issue in this country. this is domestic terrorism any to be called a such. >> that's much of what i've been hearing throughout this entire day. as our shooter mcgill is kind of showing you some of the committee that's been gathering here all day in part paying their respects to the loss of those ten individuals, the other three that were injured as well. he also sees police lines lined up. miguel, if we could also just going around to in front of the grocery store tops for all of this took place. we've been seeing some more police activity there. the fbi filing and now as i've been doing the show throughout the last hour. not quite sure what's been
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happening but of course we're going to be looking into it and bring you any updates on the investigation and this is all unfolding as we've been of course covering this breaking news out of buffalo. welcome back, everybody. we are covering this breaking news out of buffalo and these shocking new details emerging about this loan suspect who shot and killed ten people here in the city. nbc news can now confirm that the teenage gunman reportedly had run-ins with the law. dean all the way back to last june. back then, high school officials called the police on then 17-year-old after he threatened to shoot fellow students. either at graduation or a later time. despite this, the suspect was able to legally acquire tactical gear as well as an ar-15 assault style rifle. that weapon was than modified with illegal enhanced magazine allowing him to spray 50 rounds into the store during yesterday's horrific attack. with me now talk more about this is chris brown, president of brady and organization focus on fixing america's gun epidemic. chris, thanks for joining us.
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as always, we appreciate talking to you. and it seems to be always turn times like this. when there is yet again another mass shooting in here we are. once again. authorities, they reportedly took the suspect into custody last year for mental health examination as they just mentioned. he was in custody, right. there were flags already in place for him. and yet, he was able to legally purchase a firearm, two of them, in this state. and his parents knowingly told police officers he purchased those firearms. what do you make of that? >> well, first of, all yasmin, it is really deeply frustrating and heartbreaking to be back talking about this issue. when we have seen the impact of extremism in this country. hate filled individuals, year after year after year, -- el paso, synagogue.
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and there are two main ingredients here. easy access to assault style weapons and new york does have a law, i just want to say, we're investigating the details of how he obtained this. it appears from his -- attributed to him he was bemoaning new york's strong laws and modified apparently whatever gun that he had to make it more lethal. the reality is, we need to have a federal solution to these issues. ultimately, every state is working to try and protect its citizens. but you know, new york has one of the lowest rates of gun violence in this country. they have a huge number of guns coming in from other states and we have to manage this responsibly and understand the gun manufacturers also have a role here. their marketing and they have been, we know, this to exactly these kinds of disturbed individuals whose weapon of choice, because of insurrectionists second
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amendment rhetoric, is a assault saw weapon. >> he was a juvenile when this took place, his mental health issues. this investigation into the threats that he was making towards his own school. does there need to be something in place to track even the juvenile records of individuals who then go on to do something like he did yesterday? >> well, you, know yasmin, would all say about that is we need comprehensive federal gun violence legislation. background checks, think about and assault weapons ban, that would be really important research is on high capacity magazines. states across the country, more than 25, have adopted what's called extreme risk protection orders. and that is, when someone, doesn't matter the age, is a threat to themselves or others. especially if it relates in any way to firearms. in an emergency order can be obtained to remove those firearms and put that person in
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the background check system during the -- of that order. i don't understand and i need to know more, why more wasn't done in this case to ensure that this individual did not have any access to firearms and yet, i think those closest to him including the parents, if it's true that they enabled this in any way or did not prohibited. we have to ask questions about why that is not the case. ultimately, responsible gun owners all across this country, and those who don't know guns, yasmin, agreed that we have to protect our societal interests and have reasonable gun laws. but there is a role for families and parents here too. and those are the right questions to ask. >> chris brown, as always, we thank you. we are going to continue our coverage of the attack here in buffalo after the break with city council president darius jeep region, we'll be right. back region, we'll be right.
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i mean as in coming to you live from buffalo. the column of a may we can shattered by a gunman filled with hate. who came to this community to carry out a deadly act, leaving ten people dead and the city reeling. i want to be up to the on everything that we know with this investigation. as for talking about the people that experience one took place inside that grocery store. nbc's jessi cursive joining us now. jesse, i know these spoke with someone that was there. what did she have to tell? you >> we met her because she was trying to get to her car which was still in the parking lot, she says. so she tells me yesterday she went into the store with her cousin and that's when they started hearing gunshots rang out. they split up, she made her way towards the deli counter, she somehow made out a back entrance and then she made her way back around to the parking lot to get her phone to see her clothes from so her alive. thankfully, her cousin was and here's what she told me she saw. >> i saw the gunman and i seen
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three people that when i was walking in the store, they was laid on the ground dead. so the people that was, if we would have walked then three minutes later, we probably would have been dead with them. because everybody that was front of the store, he killed them. >> minutes away from being killed? >> yes, i know i was, i know we was, i was thinking god must-have protected us because i don't know how we made it out the parking lot in that store before -- it happened like seconds. we got in the store and then you start hearing gunshots. there was one, one older lady really, it really hurt me because. when i walked and i saw her chest standing near, she was looking through her purse like she was working for her phone for something. and when i came out, she was lying there dead with the card on top of her. and that really, really hurt me. i'm, like dang, i just saw this lady, i just walk past her. and then the guy that was
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putting his groceries in there, he was dead. and then this lady laid out, on the ground with her brain's blood out with just blood all over the ground. it was terrible. all i could do was just fall to my knees and thank god for keeping me, covering me from that because it could've been me. >> it's remarkable to me, yasmin, how calm she was about the entire interview describing people just minutes earlier who had been alive and five minutes later she says she saw police out front, people were dead in the street. on investigator front we are talking a lot about this potential previous investigation around the suspect we know that there's this question of it for red flags women race around this person. still waiting for more details on that but we do know from police that there appears to have been a prior investigation tied to a prior threat from the suspect. and of course, that may have been something that people wondering why wasn't it cost sooner? >> it's the senate to me that she can even retell the events of yesterday. having on through it and live
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through it. and that moment, as you, said walking, in seeing someone alive, walking back around, and they're no longer alive. in a split second. a whole life can change. jesse kirsch, thank, you as always, my friend. we are joined now by buffalo city council president darius pridgen, mr. pridgen is also senior pastor at true bethel baptist church. thank you so much darius i appreciate you joining us on this. i just mentioned you rubbish about the largest black cherish in the city of buffalo. and i'm told that your sermons this morning focused on the tragic events that took place behind me. what did your words include today to this community? >> well, actually, thank you for having me on. actually, i didn't get a chance to read the sermon. it was really just a top to not only our community but also addressed to my wife, pastors, coworkers out there to stand up against racism.
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and really encourage the people to. not tara our own community. well we seen sometimes in situations like this is where people will destroy their communities. we had people there who are actually in the store. as this was happening, one of the employees and family members there, it was one of our -- allowing people to grieve without any reprieve. >> what are you hearing from community members the most right now? >> heart and confusion. you know, this morning especially hearing some of the people who we brought into the front who -- and hearing one of the young ladies chess hauler the words, why do they hate us so much? this was a young lady who lost a family member.
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and to hear those words, i think that especially for younger generations who have been, especially locally. who may not have been around shoring civil rights, who may not have had to deal with race relations like this that it is one of hurt and definitely one of confusion. >> what did you say to that young lady? >>, you know, today with some about a lot of talking. it was about making sure that we validated her feelings. and allowed her to cry. and we held her and people held her. and not only her but all of the people who are up there. one of the young man who is saying in the choir today is -- his grandson was shot in the neck in the building, went straight through his neck and out of his back and thank god he is at home. but there was just so much hurt and so, people keep asking,
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what's the next step, what are we going to do next? first we got to get through the grief. and we got to let people grieve and feel them and be there. we have in front of us, ten funerals at least that are going to happen in this community in the next few days. and so, this is a time of definitely grief. >> bishop pridgen, we appreciate you joining us today. thank you so much for your words. >> thank you. >> so yesterday's tragic mass shooting in buffalo as just the latest massacre driven by a white supremacy ideology. following similar acts of violence in recent years in charleston, south carolina, el paso, texas, and puts -- justin in a few cities as so many. and apparent manifesto was fuss align, the suspect's name thursday night. he claims that when americans are at risk of being replaced by people of color. a common trope on the far-right known as the great replacement
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theory. an outline his plan to kill as many black was possible. and he tried to do that yesterday. joining us now is pfizer patel, co director of the brennan center for justice liberty and national security program. fisa, thank you so much for joining us. talk first a little bit about what else we glean from this manifesto. and are their flags that can be put in place to alert officials that something is wrong, this manifesto is there, this person has plans in place to attack a certain community. >> problem is, it has, given that there are a lot of people in this country who have really abhorrent views and really racist views. and so the internet is full of angry screech of this kind and it is very difficult, i think, to distinguish between people who are just talking and people who have an actual plan to carry out violence. now, in this instance, there
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was a plan, so we may have been able to even caught. but there is no universal red flag. there is no, you know, checklist of things that people need to be looking for. so this is a huge problem for us. especially because if you think about the kinds of things that he was saying in this manifesto. they are not that far off from things that are part of everyday public discourse, sometimes from very high level public officials. take the anti immigration, immigrant screen, for example, that's been a sort of leaf motive of our politics for decades. >> you know, these are usually ideas that we would have in the path associated with far-right individuals. extreme right, i should say. and now seems like something like replacement theory has become more a part of the mainstream, as we're seeing in some remedial let's. i know tucker carlson is talked
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about it was on show. i want to play a little before u.s. of what he had to say and then i want you to react to the other side. >> political terms, this policy is called the place replacement -- replacement will be in people from foreign countries. >> where the government shows preference to people who have shown absolute contempt for our customers, our laws, our system itself. and they're being treated better than american citizens. now i know that the left and all the little gatekeepers on twitter become literally hysterical if you use the term replacement. if you suggest that the democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots with new people morrow being voters from the third world. but they become a circle because that's what's happening, actually. let's just say, it that's true. >> fisa, what do you make of this. it's not just tucker carlson. go back just to trump. his first act when he, one of
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his first actually became present was to institute a ban on people from muslim countries. because they were scary and brown and they might commit violence. most of trump's presidency was spent trying to constrain immigration. both, you know, immigration that violate a laws but also illegal immigration. and the idea that the united states is being threatened by this sort of horde of outsiders and the democrats want to let the men. it's a long-standing meme in our political life. also the idea of the great replacement theory, people must understand, is that a comes or really from nazism. the idea that jews were going to be taking over the country. and again, that kind of references scene, again and again, in our political discourse. so in some sense, you know, you can set up red flags wherever you want. but if mainstream politicians
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and leaders are saying things very similar to this. it's a little bit difficult to think that you're going to be able to find the individuals with actually want to carry this out. >> yeah, and i tell you, this committee is arguing that knowing that certain times these types of tropes, they come from the top down. hence for the reasons they say don't necessarily trust anybody to actually do something about the systemic racism that exists in this country and being targeted just for being black american. faiza patel, we thank you. so despite having a majority in congress, democrats are unable to pass meaningful gun legislation. so what can be done to stop these types of attacks? congresswoman judy chu of california's with me next. chu o california's with me next.
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we're following breaking news happening right now just a short time ago. pennsylvania -- john fetterman has been hospitalized after suffering a stroke. in a newly-released statement, fetterman released that he was not feeling well on friday, and they had the assistance of his wife, he checked into a local
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hospital where doctors discovered he was having a stroke. they were quickly able to remove the cloth. he wants to assure the public he's feeling better and we'll be back on the campaign trail in no time. also, president biden sharing a message of hope in the face of tragedy. in buffalo. >> the justice department stated publicly that it is investigating the matter as a hate crime. racially motivated act of white supremacy and violent extremism. as they do, we must all work together to address the hate that remains a stain on the soul of america. the hearts are heavy once again. but the resolve must never waver. >> also anger at the fact that this had to happen yet again. it's a sentiment shared by so many lawmakers, especially those who are at the forefront of the fight for the racist attacks and domestic terrorism.
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our next guest with me now to talk about this is representative judy chu, the democrat of california. representative chu, thank you for joining us on the sunday afternoon. you've been at the forefront of the fight for racial violence at the api community. waking up today after this tragedy yesterday, the killing of ten innocent individuals at the grocery store behind me, your reaction to that? >> well, first of all my heart goes out to the people of buffalo. i could not believe what i heard when i saw this shooter shot ten people and travel 200 miles in order to do that. and actually, i had a flashback because it was over a year ago that a shooter went to georgia. atlanta, georgia, and went to three spots. actually, it took 27 miles to go from one spot to another, so
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it was quite deliberate. he just shot into the spas, killing eight people. soon thereafter, i organized a congressional coddle to georgia and we talked to the victims families. the tears, the sobs, the total devastation that they felt is something i know the people of buffalo are experiencing right now. this has to stop. >> this has to stop. and i was speaking with chris earlier today, she listed a myriad ways in which lawmakers could act, prevent tragedies like this one. it seems as if washington has not, or maybe cannot act. why has there not been more change when it comes to gun control in this country? an individual like the one that opened fire was able to purchase to firearms legally
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with a history of mental illness. >> yes, well, there are several things that we need to do. one thing is to ensure that our gun safety measures do pass, and in fact, that there is red flag law passed nationally, that can alert the authorities as to when a person like this is being violent with guns, and also can have some kind of restraining order on their purchases of guns. also, we need to have our bipartisan background checked bill passed. and that is something that many americans do support. we also actually have to ask a question about why this young man was able to get illegal magazines attached to this to modify his gun so it could be more deadly. >> let me also say --
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>> sorry, please go ahead. >> sorry. we also need to pass our domestic terrorism prevention act of 2022. this is obviously the case of domestic terrorism and not much was done in the years up to 9/11, but now, domestic terrorism has killed more americans than any other -- since 9/11. this is serious, and that's why we have to get this bill cast. it's actually on the floor yuck -- >> congresswoman, thank you. we appreciate you joining us on the sunday afternoon. heads up tonight everybody. government -- senator gary peters. that's it for me. i will be back at saturday two
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