it's been good to be back with you. that does it for "the beat" with ari melber. "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. >> good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" tonight with the mainstreaming of racist hate. now i would like to refresh your memory about something that happened a couple of years ago, you may remember this. the top writer for tucker carlson's show on fox news resigned after being exposed for posting racist and sexist messages for years under a pseudonym in an online forum popular with law students. he portrayed black americans as lazy and criminals, made derogatory comments about asian americans and used homophobic slurs. that sounds familiar. ding, ding, ding, ding.

it sounds a lot like the filth you would most certainly encounter in the bowels of the interweb, places like 4 chan where the racist domestic terrorist who drove 200 miles to a grocery store in a predominantly black neighborhood in buffalo to slaughter black people says that he was radicalized while he was sitting at home bored during the pandemic. this vile person killed ten people, all black and injured three more. he spelled out his ideology in a manifesto he allegedly wrote filled with racist and anti-semitic memes citing the great replacement theory of white supremacists, the false idea that began in the early '30s in france that claims that white people in europe and in the united states are being systematically replaced with non-white people as part of a jewish conspiracy. it's the camp of the saints that you might have heard from former

bebright boss and consignificant-year steve bannon and might seem like the crud that's relegated to the darkest corners of the intraweb. it's been mainstream and building for decades on the right. in fact, i can remember hearing about a version of it when i was in the high school in the 1980s about the former grand wizard of the ku klux klan david duke who went from cross burner to politician and got nearly 40% of the vote in louisiana, surging among conservative white voters when he ran for governor in 1919, though he ultimately lost. now here's what he said in 2000, a year after losing again this time running for congress. >> you have a rapidly declining european american majority, and if we don't reverse this soon, we will be a minority in our own country, and at that point we will be outnumbered and outvoted in our land and no matter what you think about any issue, you'll be powerless to make your voice heard in government. >> now that kind of rhetoric, it

used to be shocking. republicans once called it fringe, but if we're honest. how is that different from what you would hear in many republican primary campaigns in 2022? duke's rhetoric has been cleaned up, dressed up and fully repurposed not just by the far, far right but all the way up to republican leadership in congress. take elise stefanik, the third ranking republican in the house of representatives. last year her campaign committee ran facebook ads warning of a permanent election insurrection by democrats by providing a pathway for citizenship to undocumented immantz. compare that to the congresswoman who was replaced in the leadership who was ousted for not following fellow republicans in voting against the coupe in a would keep the president in power. cheney said the house gop leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy and

anti-semnism. we must renounce that's views and those people who hold them. >> i've got a lot of issues with liz cheney but show's right about this. this kind of thing has been enabled and thrust into the american mainstream. listen to wisconsin senator ron johnson and pennsylvania congressman scott perry. >> this administration wants complete open borders and you have to ask yourself why. is it really they want to remake the demographics of america to ensure their -- that they stay in power forever? >> for many americans what seems to be happening or what they believe right now is happening is what appears to them is we're replacing national-born american, native-born americans to permanently transform the political landscape of this very nation. >> now those are just a few of the many examples i could give you of an ideology gone offline and become the norm for much of the republican party with no figure on the right giving more voice to that vile than the one cited by congressman matt gaetz who tweeted last year.

tucker carlson is correct about replacement theory as he explains what is happening to america. no singular voice in right wing media has done more to elevate this racist conspiracy theory than tucker who even with a new head writer spends night after primetime night injecting the rot from the dress of the internet directly into the veins of republican voters. just listen. >> an unrelenting stream of immigration, but why? well, joe biden just said it. to change the racial mix of the country. that's the reap, to reduce the political power of people whose ancestors lived other and dramatically increase the proportion of americans newly arrived from the third world. in political terms this policy is called replacement therapy, replacement of legacy americans with more obedient people from faraway countries. the left becomes hysterical if you use the term replacement, if you suggest the democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate, the voters now casting ballots with new people

more obedient voters from the third world. >> you know, are tucker's writers sourcing his show from for chan? these are just questions. as the "new york times" analysis last month found in, more than 400 episodes tuckiums has amp filed the elites with the idea of replacement theory which brings me back to where we started. the reality is tucker is not some deep thinker. he's channeling the gross stuff his viewers could easily find online and then feeding it to republican voters and republican politicians as info at the same time, and that feedback loop has terrifying reach. that murderous low life in buffalo wouldn't even have to listen to tucker. he wouldn't have to watch him at all to get it if they are essentially pulling from the same source material. for example, in his racist manifesto which reads like a bad term paper by the way, the buffalo shooter asked why is diversity said to be our greatest sflent does anyone even

ask why? remember that. listen to this from a 2018 tucker carlson segment. just asking questions. >> how precisely is diversity or strength since you made this our new national motto? please be specific as you explain. >> joining me now is tim wise, anti-racism educator and author of "dispatches from the race war" and jose antonio vargas author of the national best-selling book requests dear america," notes from an undocumented citizen" and a member of "the miami herald." i'm old enough to remember hearing about david duke and seeing reports about him on the news when i was in high school even. he's been around since the '80s but you actually worked on some of those campaigns to try to defeat him, and i will proffer that there's not much that he said as a politician. i'm not saying when he was an actual cross-burning clan leader but as a politician i don't think anything he said back in

those days that sounds appreciably different that what i hear from ranking republicans and others running for office. >> duke in 1990 and '91 when running for governor he did the typical dog whistle stuff around crime and well four and even he didn't do the replacement because he knew that was two-third rail and the thing is we've regressed. the republican party announced that this was going to happen. shortly after the gubernatorial election when duke lost but he got 55% of the white vote, two months later pat buchanan, preparing a run in new hampshire in the 1992 presidential race said in one of his columns, i think it was one of his columns, said that the republican party needed to look at the winning playbook of ideas in a david duke had been running on. in other words, he was saying this is the future of where we need to go, and here we are 30

years later and we're shocked that this is happening. we ought not to be shock. they telegraphed this and they have been moving in this direction for several decades and at the time everyone said oh, that's just louisiana, you know, or that's new hampshire. they are different, they are weird. the owner of the manchester union leader is this wacky old lady, you know, that says hold things and when she dies it will all be fine. it's not just louisiana. it's not just new hampshire. it's a nation enthralled to the notion of white nationalism either directly or indirectly with people like tucker carlson giving that support. >> but, i mean, you know, leonard pitts you could quote things in this manifesto that tucker says on his show. i'm thinking about, okay the number three, number two person in republican leadership right now, i didn't call this, he calls himself david duke without the baggage and you said it in the past. steve king got run out of the republican party for saying stuff like this. i'm not sure he who get run out of it today. here's steve king.

>> you can not rebuild your civilization with somebody else's babies. you've got to keep your birth rate up and you need to teach your chirp your values and in doing so then you can grow your population and you can strengthen your culture. you can strengthen your way of life. >> leonard, that is the underlying argument of some of the most vehement far right members to say that we need to increase the supply of children, people need to have more babies. he got run out of the party. i don't know if he would get run out. just asking questions. your thoughts? >> i agree wholeheartedly. what used to be seen or sold as or we were told was the fringe. gop, and it -- that was a little dicy even when they were saying it but has definitely proven itself to be, you know, the beating heart of what used to be call conservatism, and i remember when i used to write columns about this 20 years ago let's say and i would -- and i would plead with, you know,

thoughtful conservatives, you know, okay. this is what i see coming in your -- in your partyaged in your ideology and you need to take hold of that. we're not all like that. yes, that's a problem and we're not all like that and by retort was don't tell me. show me. don't talk to me. talk to your friends here and it talk to your fellow party members. what we have come to see over the years since i was having those discussions and -- and since david duke ran in the '90s is that when it comes to a choice between the country and power, between what is -- between the vindication what have we claim to be american values and the grasping of power, the republican party and its acloits there's no choice. it's always the grass pitching of power, and they will do it, forgive mow, malcom x, by any means necessary. >> absolutely. let me bring you in. listen, i -- i am not the only person making that comparison.

david duke himself said in a 2021 podcast, a big supporter of drufrmg, and he said this about himself. he said how could it be that i'm an evil guy? i'm -- i'm supporting all the fundamental things that tucker says. how can i be evil when i'm saying the same fundamental things tucker says? that's what david duke says, and i'm not saying that this shooter in puff low watches ticker carlson. he wouldn't have to. if they are both pulling from the same online source material that talks about immigrants in the exact same way and they wind up to -- to the point where they wind up using the same rhetoric. they are pulling from the same material. he doesn't have to get it directly from tucker. it's now the ethos on the right. i want you to talk a little bit about the study that you d. i want to play a little clip of this video that you sent to my producers. >> we studied the top anti-immigration videos from the past 13 years and we looked at the channels that published them. almost every video on this list presents arguments that ultimately support the white

nationalist theory of the great replacement, so we named this network of channels the great replacement network or the grn for short. >> so talk about this great replacement networkwork. i see the "the new york post" on there. what did you find in the story? >> first of all, the voice you're is from my colleague and her colleague sarah lowe. weave invested more than two years researching this, and actually what we found, and you go to online to see the whole study. it's a whole network, great replacement network, fox news, bebart, "the blaze" and "new york post." this has been a decades long multi-million dollar project. you were talking about pat buickna. i remember -- i interviewed him in the philippines in the '90s and i remember a book when i was in college that pat buchanan wroempt i think the title was something along the lines "the death of the west," right, how dying populations and immigrant

invasions imperil our country. the title of the book, i started wondering wait a second, like how were immigrants -- by the way, aren't we calling immigrants essential workers during this pandemic? aren't they the very people that we depend on for labor in this country, and yet they are the very people that we are now saying are replacing us, right? so for us to define american, how do we actually look at the messages? they are not getting it from tucker. young people of don't watch fox news. >> right. >> i rather the first time i bhaerd the anti-immigrant videos i was at an event at the university of miami and a young student who was a young republican because i talk to as many young republicans said he saw an anti-immigrant video on praguer u. i didn't know what it was. i didn't know it was a $50 million funded anti-immigrant machine, and this young man that i just met, this young white man i just went who went to that university was binge watching an

anti-immigrant ideology over on youtube, right, so how do we note messages that they get and how do we combat them? that's the challenge here? we actually have to stop playing defense and actually say to people the benefit -- when people ask what is the person fits of diversity? look around you, right? what is america without what the latinos and asians and african-americans and black immigrants and everything else. this was never a white country and i actually think the fact that we use that term white without actually saying wait a second, weren't you immigrants, too, from germany and italy and all of those countries, right senator. >> yeah. >> that is precisely what we have to go up against. >> yeah. undocumented immigration started in 1492. >> tim, you're an anti-immigration educator. what do we do? because the sourcech of this information are everywhere. they are very much online. it's not 80-year-olds that are watching tucker. that's for with the kids are getting it.

what do we do? >> exactly what jose said. we have to pose this as an argument between those who believe in multi-racial democracy and those who believe in the end of democracy on behalf of white nationalism because there's no middle ground. i mean, the reality is that the so-called demographic shift in this country isn't even because of immigration. it's because the median age of white people is 43 and folks in their mid-40s ain't having a whole lot of babies so the reality is you could stop immigration tomorrow theoretically and the numbers are still going to change, so if you don't like that because you have this belief in the loss of the fundamental racial stock of legacy americans or whatever tucker carlson, let's just ups, you can't solve that so-called problem unless you do mass deportation. i'm talking rounding people up in cattle cars. are you can't do anything about it unless you sterilize black and brown women and do like some nazi eugenic program to fund white families to do like the duggar family or something and have like 19 kids, hopefully

none of them, you know, sex offenders like one of their son or whatever. that's what you have to do. are you can't have democracy and white hegemony. pick a side. it is either going to be white hegemony or multi-racial democracy. we know where tucker stands. we know where matt gaetz stands and where trump stands. the question is where do the rest us stand? that's what the next 20 to 30 years in this country is going to be about. >> we could do a whole half hour. please promise all three of you will come back because i really want to continue the conversation. tonight have more time. thank you all very much. please go on to findamerica.com and next up on "the reidout," the ten lives in buffalo, the rich lives they led until they crossed paths with a killer. mayor kathy hockeyium joins me. where the violent killer says he got his racial ideas and what is being down to counter the deadly indoctrination. voters go to the polls in pennsylvania where the republican ballot is continued with election deniers.

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were black. while it's impossible to sum their lives up with a few words their story needs to be hear. aaron salter jr., 55, retired police officer who here clir saved the store by firing at the shooter, roberta drury who was taking care of her brother with cancer. ruth whitfield who stopped at the store to get something to eat after visiting her news a nursing home. andre mackneil 5, 3 there, to buy cake for his 3-year-old son. pearly young was 77 who ran a pantry feeding people in buffalo central park every saturday for 25 years. heyward patterson, 67, was a driver who was loading groceries for a client when he was shot. and katherine massey, 72 years young, who spent her life fighting for her community. last year she wrote a letter to "the buffalo news" pushing for

more regulation of firearms citing the gut-wrenching escalation of gun violence in buffalo and many major u.s. cities. the others who lost their lives, geraldine tally, 62, sela cheney, 65 and marcus d. morrison, 52, all innocent people just going to the store on a weekend. with me now is the governor of new york, kathy hochul who was born in buffalo and represented the area for years. governor hochul, thank you for being here. i can't imagine how much pain in community is in. as a buffalo native, talk about what the aftermath looks like for the people of your home city. >> thank you for showing the pictures of these people. they are not just a number ten, they are step people with personalities and lives that are lost forever. this is my hometown. it's part of my community. i live only 10 or 12 minutes from that,neighborhood. i go back to buffalo all the time. it is still my home so these are my neighbors and this is deeply personal.

people are just searing with pain. i went in my elevator, i live in a very diverse building, black, white, doesn't matter the color, people falling into my arms weeping. such anguish in this community right now, and we need to stop talking about how we heal and try to provide resources to people, mental health services this. now aed to desert, by the way. it's an impoverished part of our city. enormous amount of money dedicated towards rebuilding it and our budget just passed a couple weeks ago but right now where are they getting groceries so i stepped up and made sure that uber and lyft could transport people without much cars, not a lot of public trappings, a few buses, take them to the grocery stores. a lot of people stepped. reverend al stepped up and said he would help cover the cost of the funerals. i'm so proud of the people outside the community and in the community they are giving each

other a collective hug because people have been in such pain. >> let me ask you, because you mentioned the part about this community being a food desert, and we mow that this area was shaped by decades of segregation, and i want to read this from "the buffalo news." as soon as the tragedy unfolds, advocates and emergency food networks and corporate donors and tops mobilized to make sure nobody in the black community goes hungry. this was a big deal and having that hub was super important. we have some video of something called community fridge which is now gathering food. the ray that red lining keeps buses out of black communities often, they were already economically ounce, know, the downside here. what can you done about that core issue? this shouldn't have been a food desert. >> i have made just one of my highest priority. i know this neighborhood. i already spoke to the ceo of

tops company whose store was -- whose store was the site of the massacre. he promised to me that they would reopen this store. it's still a crime scene. they have some work to do but he himself is paying for people to be transported to places where they can get food, other grocery stores outside the area so there is a strong community pons so no one is left behind, but firstly, since i know this community, i've been governor since august. i have devoted more money and resources to rebuilding businesses as well as communities to support white flight from the downtown urban core to get people out to the suburbs. they have divided this with a massive highway. we see this in many cities. there are black communities divided in half by this asphalt -- this exit that leads people to get away from the city. i spent billions to rebuild that and put the seeds back together and help this community so i'm going to continue as a buffalo nate i have to focus on the

injustices that have been the hallmark of this community for my entire life, as a child growing up we weren't able to solve this. my family helped start a community center in this neighborhood to help people who had nothing. my mother and i used to go visit people in public housing and get them counseling and support and i know this community. as governor they did not deserve this. they are innocent. they are hard working and they are tight-knit and i'm going to help them heal because that's what i have to do and i was so proud -- i'm so excited when president biden called me yesterday and said kathy, what can i do to help? i said, mr. president, if you came to buffalo, this part of our community that always feels neglected and overlooked, you come, you're the most empathetic person we've ever had in this position so he's coming tomorrow and i'm really happy about that. >> we'll be paying attention tomorrow as the president comes out to buffalo. new york can have kathy hochul,

thank you very much. happeniate you being here. let's turn to the buffalo city council president and bishop of the bethel true baptist church. bishop, i just want to lit talk. talk about the community where your church is located. this is your community, so tell me about it. what should we know about these wonderful people who lost their lives and this store that was so central? >> well, first of all, thank you for covering this story so in-depth. this community is my community. i am not only the president of the but low common council, but we all have districts, and this one is located within my district, the elicot district of buffalo, and i live two blocks away from the store, so we go to the store constantly, even on the day of the massacre. i was on the way to pick up something to put on the grill and my larziness said go and

just buy something and i made a right instead of made a left. came back home hand my wife called me as she had just left the house to tell me there was a heavy police presence. this is a tight-knit community. you know, when some people hear about a -- an -- a predominantly african american neighborhood and the grocery store, immediately people think of a rundown grocery store with very little food. that's not the case with this grocery store. it is part of the tops change and many have says we spot for this store to be in this communities. there's not a lot of national stores that want to locate in a poor neighbors an so it's a hub. it's a gathering place, like the barber shop in the black community. people there, you're talking it and you see your neighbors and

we knew everybody in this area. they didn't know the people who pass, they know somebody. very tight knit and you never expect this top had a. it's like you're brothers or sis terms of the you might fight with your brothers and sisters but you're not letting anybody else fight your brother and sister. that's tops. that's this area. >> i've been heartbreak owen and smiling reading about the lives of these people. they sounded like they were the best of this community. people who are volunteering and helping others. reading about your community. it's got its own apology theater. touch-of-such research culture there. the -- talk about his manifesto the goal was to make black people understand that they will

never safe and to try people to voluntarily lead. >> what do you think of. is that something that would ever happen in a strong community like yours? >> i think for a moment in time as far as making african-americans unsafe in their own community. taped when my teenage sons left for school, one of them was very concerned, the 13-year-old, about going to school today and what were happen, and, know, we kind of benz back and for the -- that's that. it is -- he got the first part

off just temporary and what we do know is we called the buffalo city 19s wows it took somebody from outside of buffalo. it took somebody who, unfortunately, really researched us. if he recommended us as far as we are at a people. he might have come in to -- instead of coming to people in the community. there's people in our community right are feeling like how did this man make it out of this ilive with the weapons he had, with the bodies that were on the ground? but, of course, you know, police procedure, he put down the gun when they showed up, but there's some people, just to be frank. who -- who -- who hang around on the corner across the street who i think if they had nope what

was going on this would have been a lot different so at the end of the day, i'll tell you this, i'm glad he's alive and i'm glad he's alive so we can dig into hopefully what -- what was going on and who else he knows. i think death was too easy. >> yeah. >> and it kind of gives him a quick out when he needs to sit in prison for the rest of his natural life. >> well, i think unfortunately, the history of the way that these things happen are the certain demographics who almost survive the situation where innocent young black men and women sometimes don't even survive for being pulled over for a tag of a car on their car. and that's me saying that. i will not put that you on. the president city council and bishop darrius pridgeon, thanks for being here. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you. best to you and your family. still ahead, a new generation of

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what does that tell us, because i read through the manifesto and a lot of what he's doing is attempting to instruct other people to do what he did just like what the christchurch killer did. >> absolutely right. most content of the manifesto is plagiarized essentially. it's just cope and pasted from a previous terrorist in christchurch, new zealand and with a replacement of words to swap out essential lit victims here in this case, and then what he really wanted i think was to get people to follow, to try to follow his actions. you know, i -- i will say that my research lab, together with the southern poverty law center, two years ago issued a guide for parents and caregivers because we were worried about teenagers being online all the time ant circulation of propaganda increasing, and the number one warning sign and our first bullet was -- had to do with the great replacement was people talking about or using words related to the great replacement so i know we're hearing a lot of words about there being no

warning signs here but we've known about this problem and obviously the black community has known about in problem and victims have known that this kind of thing was coming with the circulation and the mainstreaming of this propaganda. >> well, you know, we had the fbi director christopher wray said in 2020 -- let me play it real quick. this is fbi director christopher wray in 2020. >> what i can tell you is that within -- within the domestic terrorism bucket, category as a whole, racially motivated violent extremism i think is the biggest bucket within that larger group, and within the racially motivated violent extremist bucket people ascribing to some kind of white supremacist type of ideology is certainly the biggest chunk of that. i would also add to that that racially motivated violent extremists over recent years have been responsible for the most lethal activity in the u.s.

>> and i'll add to that a poll by ap which says one in three, 32% of americans, agree that a group of people is trying to replace native-born americans with immigrants for electoral gains w.so many young people sitting at home during the pandemic browsing youtube and 4chan, et cetera, what can be done about this? >> well, first of all, i think the first thing is you have to better equip people in schools and in any possible way to recognize and reject racist and supreme civil content when they see it, so if we don't have young people who can recognize it and -- and when i say recognize, it i mean, sometimes it comes in joke forms, in memes, right. it can be subtle, holocaust denial. we need people to recognize that propaganda and reject it on its face. that's the first thing, so if we can't even have conversations about race and the legacy of

structural racism in school, that's really different then to inoculate people against that propaganda when they run into it because it's offering a false conspiracy-driven explanation for inequalities that they see in the world and then it's telling them that they have to rise up and act heroically to kind of save their people. it's a real dangerous cycle when you have the main already streaming and rhett fusal to incorporate any way to address race or racism in curriculum and schools and the circulation of this propaganda increasing so rapidly online. >> it's not even a refusal. it's literally republicans running on an aggressive message of erasing any contextural discussion of history to do exactly what you're doing. they are saying no, you're not allowed to even talk about race in a way that might help young people to identify this stuff that cams after. you're not allowed to do that. you have to essentially teach dogma. it's not helpful. doctor i think you for being here. hopefully you'll come back.

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yes on h. recall chesa boudin now. the polls and pennsylvania, democrats which was their nominee for the u.s. senate seat, being vacated by republican pat toomey. that three major candidates are lieutenant governor john fetterman, congressman connor lam, and state -- yesterday, federal government announced he has suffered a stroke by heart arrhythmia. he remains hospitalized. i'm joined now by matthew dowd, msnbc contributor and founder of country over party. matthew, if there was ever a worst-case scenario all the way around race, it is pennsylvania, right? i mean, all of the republican candidates, i think bar none, are extremists. on the democratic side, the lead candidate sentiment is now hospitalized and the other two

have had no traction. what's in the world! >> yeah, and you can add that pennsylvania was where the declaration of independence was signed. and the first continental congress where the burger address was written in a statement was basically foundational for our freedom. we have this taking place in that state. and i think one of the ways people need to start looking at this, joy, is that this is not a trump endorsed candidates versus non trump endorsed candidates, because every republican abides by the crazy stuff, the lies, the anti democratic pushes, and accepts white supremacy, all of that just like in ohio. i think the best visual is this, the republican party basically created a monster over the last 20 years, different parts were added, white supremacy, autocracy, all these were added. and then, donald trump gave away electricity to the monster. now, the monsters woken up, and no longer is paying attention

to basically anybody of sound mind. and that's what's taking over the republican party. in state, after state, after state, so when somebody argues, well, we are not a trump endorsed candidate, well if not, maybe they're actually worse than the trump endorsed candidate like the one in pennsylvania with kathy barnette in that. and so, that's the situation, it is such a tragic situation that is taking place in pennsylvania. it's home of our declaration of independence. >> you know, and was even scarier that pennsylvania is one of those states where the governor points secretary of state. so ever the governor's will determine whether or not this is going to be an election pre-stolen for donald trump, or desantis, or whoever is the nominee. they could literally do that. i mean, the idea that the current front-runner is saying that they're gonna force redirection vote, it's a little voter suppression. and will end up not able to vote. they will just literally wipe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people off the polls. >> yeah, that's difficult.

to me, pennsylvania, you add pennsylvania michigan, probably arizona, georgia, to me, there are the four states which are our dom chrissy depending on. because those candidates in michigan, and in my view, whether or not the democrats get the united states senate -- in my view will likely depend on what happens in pennsylvania, will likely depend on the emergence of that candidate. i still have hope, joy, and optimism even with fetterman who's likely to be the nominee, looks like he's recovering from the stroke and the incident in that. but the democrat will be favored because the republican's so outside the mainstream, and so outside of peoples rights and freedoms and democracy in all of that. but it is succeeding lee dangerous that a major political party today has basically now preoccupied by a group of voters that were always fringe throughout the

last hundred years. it is now 100% or 80%, republican party. and it is not dependent on donald trump anymore. trump could go away tomorrow, and that monster has been giving electricity in a storming across the country. >> democrats thought through this clearly enough, because not of those three stood out, and if three very different candidates, and african american, a conservative, and fetterman has got all of his or issues -- >> no, i don't think the democrats are looking at this in a way that's rational. i think that if you were really rational about this, one, you would look at elections and say, our democracies depend on this. let's put our egos to the side. let's vote like our political ambitions,, and let's do what's in the best for the country, first. secondly, all of the groups that are in the democratic party have to come together on one message, on one overarching message, which is that our rights, our freedoms, and our

security, which are all dependent on democracy are in danger. and that ought to be the message. 100%, that ought to be the message for anybody running anywhere. >> yeah, you think they would just say, let's wait for the party, it's way too extreme. what solutions do they have to any of those problems? it's way, way, to extreme. we will leave that to msnbc to figure it out. thank you, my friend. appreciate you being here to. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. a supermarket in upstate new york joins a synagogue in pittsburgh and a short in south carolina in a long continued white supremacist violence in america. >> we're not just hurting. we're angry. we're mad. this shouldn't have happened. >> tonight, jelani cobb and mcgee on the search for answers and buffalo and on the same racism behind this attack now dominates the american right. and nick confessore