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and see how golo can change your life. that's g-o-l-o.com. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. it is very bright here in philadelphia, where we are live, and where it is primary day.
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we're watching a number of big races that will help define where this country is going, and where better to follow it all than outside of independence hall, birthplace of our declaration of independence and our constitution. most closely watched is the race for an open senator seat. pat toomey is retiring, which means this is the democrats' best chance to make gains in the senate. lieutenant governor john fetorman currently leads the race against congressman connor lam, malcolm kenyatta and alex khalil. did fetterman's stroke change the calculus for voters? and what about the black vote? his opponents insist black voters haven't been adequately polled. on the right, there are seven candidates looming over all of them is donald trump. one in three gop ads aired here mentioned donald trump. and as charlie matthiasson put
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it, there are few states as deeply infect by donald trump's election fraud lie. the gop leaders are mehmet oz, cathy barnett and dave mccormick. trump picked oz, but there's concern trump picked wrong. laura ingram went to call the endorsement a mistake. that might be because cathy barnett is being heralded as the opponent most like donald trump. she saw a last-minute surge in the polls. she's most like trump but the party isn't thrilled. we'll get to why in a moment, and why those same folks are very worried, if not angry about the race here. the gubernatorial race. right now, doug maestano is out way ahead, someone they say is unelectable.
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runninger if primary in the governor is himself running and declaring mastriano as one of trump's strongest supporters. joining me from just outside philadelphia is dasha burns. and here in fill sli jonathan tamari and politico national political reporter holly ottervine. dasha, first to you, give us the state of the race as of this moment. >> katy, i said this to chuck earlier and i'll tell you now so you can get in on it, too. i'm taking bets on how many more plot twists we're going to have in this race. the biggest perhaps you mentioned it there, cathy barnett, the last-minute surge. we are at her polling place. we were here when she cast her ballot this morning, and barnett is a candidate who rose to prominence in the republican party in 2020 on claims of election fraud, including in her own election. she ran for congress in a
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heavily democratic district and lost and claimed that was because of voter fraud. and you saw it yesterday -- we were reporting on those images of her at the capitol on january 6th. today, though, when we talked to her about whether or not voters should trust the process, here's what she told us. account voters you're asking to turn out today trust this process and trust in the results of the primary? >> we all have such a wonderful opportunity. only in america -- not only in america, but in america, we get to decide, and so for every single pennsylvanian, the way you can, you know, be a part of this process is make sure you're here, make sure you're coming out and voting. don't allow anything to discourage you. every single republican, you need to be at these polls today, and you need to make sure your voice is heard, and i'm so excited.
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>> reporter: katy, last night we were at her final event before big voting day, where she also kind of changed the message on voting fraud. instead of claiming that she lost because of voter fraud, she instead emphasized she lost that election in 2020 but by fewer points than trump did. meanwhile at this very same polling place today we ran into the in-laws of dr. oz, who did in fact vote for him, though he has had a hard time breaking away. you mentioned, even despite the trump endorsement. we talked to him about that over the weekend. and he blames the fact that he hasn't really run away with this thing, despite the name i.d., the support from trump. he blamed that on the millions of dollars his opponent david mccormick spent on negative ads. still, whatever you blame it on, this is an extremely tight race and barn@is within striking
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distance. >> really interesting. holly you've done a lot of reporting on the race for senate and governor. let's focus on barnettte. what does it do to the gop field and general election if she is in fact the winner tonight? >> i think republicans are concerned she could win. not much is known about her. it's true. media outlets and her republican opponents really started to have to vet her in the last couple weeks. and so we've seen an incredible amount of opposition research just being circulated, attack ads. they're sort of emptying everything they have on her. it's all coming out at once, and we're figuring out exactly who she is and what her background is. there have been a lot of questions, and i think it's concerning republicans at the state and national level, you know, who look at pennsylvania and see the possibility of getting back control of the senate. they really need to hold on to this seat. this is a seat to replace republican pat toomey, so if they aren't able to maintain this seat in the republicans'
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happeneds, their path to the majority gets much more complicated. >> it's really late. voters aren't hearing the opposition research. i wonder if they might care about the stuff coming out, the things cathy barnette said. she was along aide proud boys. said she didn't know they were proud boys. kept talk about how the election was stolen. how is that playing with voters in this state. as politico put it, it's one of the state where is the election lie has most permeated. >> absolutely. when you look back all the way to january 6th, there were two states that there were formal objections to, and pennsylvania was one of them, and you have a candidate for governor who was a leader in that fight on the republican side and looks very likely to be the republican nominee. so it is a strong poll on the republican side. the question is, once it gets to -- if it gets to a general election, you see much less
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support for that idea, and it could be a toxic issue in the general election. but you mentioned at the start that all of the adds are -- the vast majority of the adds mention trump. if you have a whole bunch of candidate who is present themselves in trump's image, it looks like voters might go for the one who looks the closest thing. a lot of them are leaning that way. we'll see if assist a majority or not. >> it's not just the senator primary. it's the governor's as well. doug mastriano, you're reporting there's a lot of republican infighting and anger over the fact that he was "allowed" to get this far. party leadership able to stop someone like this? what's going on? >> he's really the face of the movement to overturn the election, the 2020 election in pennsylvania, and he was at the capital on january 6th. he's been subpoenaed by the congressional committee investigating the attack. so republicans don't want the talk about that in the fall. they want to talk about inflation, gas prices going up,
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baby formula not being on the shelves, right? and they are really worried. more woried than they are about cathy barnette. people are already pointing fingers. i talked to republicans yesterday who were really criticizing state party leadership and calling for the head of the state party chair, saying we need to reorganize, we need a new state party chair. >> sounds so much like donald trump in 2016. >> i'm getting deja vu, i am. >> let's talk about the democrats. john fetorman has a stroke, still in the hospital. he says he's recovering. he'll be fine. not going to be at the election party. i wonder, how is the polling in this state? i heard from other candidates that philadelphia has not been polled correctly, the black vote has not been polled correctly. if you go around here you're not going to see john fetorman signs. is that them pumping themselves up? >> we've seen plenty of polling misses in recent years. i don't know that we've seen a
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miss of the magnitude that it would take for him to lose. now, look, there have been a lot of surprises. i've learned in the last five or six years not to make predictions, but the lead he's had has been significant. we'll see. ultimately election day is the test of how deep his support runs and how much is based on name i.d. and how much democrats go for maybe a more conventional democratic candidate like conor lamb like they've done in the past. >> thanks for starting us off. going to be an interesting night. joining us now, one of the senate democratic candidates we were just talking about, congressman conor lamb. i know you've taken issue with some of the polling. tell me, what are the number you're seeing? >> i can tell you about the literally millions of text messages and phone calls and knocks on people's doors that our campaign has done. we have a very well organized field program. part of it in coordination with
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25 labor unions that are supporting our campaign. so we feel really good about what we're running into every day. really the most common position has been undecided. it's not like everyone i meet is for me, but a lot of people have space open in their mind, have concerns about the lieutenant governor's electability. a lot of them are just getting to know me. this is my first statewide campaign. so we have felt like as long as we knock on every door, fight down to the wire, it's going to have an impact. >> some have said of the primary here and primaries across the country that it's not a great time to be a centrist in the democratic party. how do you feel about that? >> well, you know, i don't know. i know people are saying that what i run into is a lot of people saying their number one concern is to win in november. so regardless of what label you stick on me, i am the one candidate who has beaten republicans in situations like this before. i have had three congressional races against republicans on their own district that have been a lot of fundraising
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involved, donald trump coming and telling people not to vote for me and all the rest. i've just tied to stay focused on the interference i bring and results aye gotten at the ballot box and in washington and i don't worry about the labels. i think people are hungry for a leader that gets results. >> what about the money spent in this race? you have been outspent two to one. do you think that's had an impact? >> i do. you know, again, fetterman has run statewide three times now. it's my first time. so giving him a financial advantage on top of the name recognition advantage has obviously made it a big hill to climb. but i didn't run for this because of money or any of those sorts of dynamics. i ran because we need to win the senate seat in order to effectively run the country on any issue, whether it's voting rights, women's rights, the economy, all the rest. i look at the other candidates in this race, and i had grave concerns about whether they could win a general election in
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our state, so i thought i would step forward and give people an option. and we're seeing every day that people are picking that option, because they are so desperate to win. >> i asked this of state representative malcolm kenyatta, one of our other opponents in the race, yesterday. i will ask you as well. who is the candidate on the republican side you would want to face off with? >> i really don't know, to be honest, just because, you know, they are so far out there, kind of beyond the bounds of reality that i think all of them would be similar. they're going to lie about the last election, embrace rick scott's agenda for the senate republicans, which proposes a vote to eliminate social security and medicare. those are two of our winningest issues in large parts of the state. we're an elderly state. even where conservative people have a strong attachment to the programs and don't want to see them messed with.
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for a democrat like me who's run in some conservative areas before, on those issues is how we put together a team it takes to win in november, and i think all of these republican candidates are giving us an enormous opportunity to do that. >> [ inaudible ]. >> thank you. and pennsylvania is just one of five states with primary contests today. there are also ballots being cast in idaho, oregon, kentucky, and north carolina. in idaho, current republican governor brad little is face off against his own lieutenant, janis mcgeechen who made news last year when she reversed little's mask mandates while he was traveling out of state. she's embraced a far right platform aligning herself with private militias and has the endorsement of donald trump. in oregon's fifth district there's a moderate v. conservative. kurt schraeder is endorsed by
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president biden. he's being challenged by jamie mclloyd skinner who was endorsed by senator elizabeth warren. and in north carolina there are a number of races to watch. but the one getting the most attention is madison caw thorn. he's facing a number of gop challengers and growing republican frustration after a series of self-inflicted controversies. we're going to have much more on that race coming up. also, still ahead, we are in buffalo. the president was just there. what he's promising on guns and extremism. then, mariupol surrenders. what happened to the soldiers who were holding out there? and later, the truth is out there. what the military just declassified for congress on ufos. ♪i'm so defensive,♪ ♪i got bongos thumping in my chest♪ ♪and something tells me they don't beat me♪ ♪ ♪ ♪he'd better not take the ring from me.♪
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president biden and first lady dr. jill biden are in buffalo today meeting with families of victims. he offered his condolences, the
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president did, and promised action to fight the growing threat of white nationalist extremism. joining me now from buffalo is nbc news now correspondent maura barrett. tell me what happened today. >> reporter: the president and first lady started their visit at tops behind me. there's a memorial setup. you might be able to hear music off camera as they are now hosting a food drive and donation drive for victims in the area. the president and first lady came here, laid down flowers and paid respects to the ten people that lost their lives here over the weekend before going on to meet with victims' families and survivors. one survivor telling nbc that biden greeted each of them and seemed to recognize each of them. he then gave remarks at a community center saying he was there to grieve with the communities and survivors as he
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also denounced white supremacy in this country. he called it a poison in the united states and reminded people who were there about why he got into this race ahead of 2020 after those riots and the rally we saw in charlottesville talking about the damage to the soul of the nation white supremacy brings. he went on in his remarks and called the incident over the weekend, the mass shooting a murderous, racist rampage. >> what happened here is simple and straightforward -- terrorism. terrorism. domestic terrorism. violence inflicted in the syria service of hate in the thirst for power that defines one group of people being inherently inferior to another group. a hate that through the media, politics, the internet, has radicalized angry, alienated, lost, and isolated individuals
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into falsely believing that they will be replaced -- this is the word -- replaced by the other. by people who don't look like them. >> reporter: president biden went on to note that there are things that can be done. he hopes to never see violence like this again, though he doesn't say that he expects that will necessarily be the case. he said assault weapons can be taken off the streets, that there is a lot of work to be done so that people aren't staying on the sidelines when it comes to this work. he said you might not be able to prevent radicalization of people, but you can prevent their access to internet platforms and end the way we've seen a lot of terrorist ideas percolate. touching on gun control aspects. but after countless and endless counts of shootings and hate crimes we've seen over the years, gun legislation still not making it way through congress. biden lightly touching on that
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today, but more focusing on the hate and extremism and the fact that the internet is what's been fuelling that hate lately. >> maura, thank you very much. joining us now, henry lewis jr., director of planning at the university of buffalo. thanks for joining us. i just wonder, how exactly, in your estimation, is buffalo processing this right now? >> well, it's being processed in two ways. first, as a tremendous amount of efforts on the part of people to deal with the grief, to deal with the tragedy, to get a sense of how this is impacting our community. at the same time, there is the evolution of even greater levels of resolve that the people will not be deterred by these acts of
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violence, that people will continue to fight back, that we will accelerate our efforts to transform and rebuild and strengthen the african american community, and that we will continue to work hard to realize our vision of a nation that's built on social justice, racial justice, and economic justice. so you have these two feelings being interwoven at the same time, the dealing with grief, the effort to comfort those who experience the real hardships, while at the same time rededicating ourselves to the fight for liberation and the fight to improve the conditions of african americans in this city. >> i wonder what you thought of president biden today, knowing that in some respects his hands are tied on the issue, at least of guns.
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there's not enough support in congress for gun legislation. republicans are not widely in favor of it, so it can't pass. then on the issue of extremism and white nationalism, which is not only on the rise in the far dark corners of the internet, but the etiquette in a tamer version is now pretty mainstream in the republican party. >> yeah, i think -- i support the comments that were made by the president today, and i think they reenforce some of the things that we believe. however, it's important that we tie these -- connect these dots. there is a relationship between the shooting that took place in buffalo and the anti-race critical race philosophy theory and the efforts of voter suppression, and the rhetoric we hear from the republican party
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and fox news. all of these things are tied and linked together. critical race theory is extremely important, because when you suppress that, you're suppressing the history of the african american people in this country and you're creaing the opportunity to whitewash that history, tone it down, make it something more palatable to people. and then when you add to that that african americans are actually thriving and doing well, it makes it easier for whites to begin to believe that the conditions of life that they face, the hardships they face, are tied and connected to the reality of these black people who are doing well along with immigrants while they are suffering. so what gets lost in this equation is that the economy that we have is producing
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precarity and hardships. when workers who are disgruntled ask for explanations, the republican party, and many tied to the right wing connected to that party begin to tell them that black people did it, they, the your jobs. the immigrants are coming over here taking your jobs. we need to keep the immigrants out. we need to keep black people from taking over. and they actually believe that we are replacing them. when in reality we're not even competing for the same jobs. so there exists disconnection between what i believe is the growth of an underground movement working in harmony with the right wings in this country. and being fueled by the rhetoric
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that comes from the right. >> henry lewis taylor jr., thank you very much for joining us and bringing us that perspective of what's happening in buffalo and the wider issues. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. and will it be inflation or roe v. wade? what voters say they are casting a ballot on, what issue that is. also, mariupol surrenders. what exactly happened in the azovstal steel plant? el plant r looking at your full financial picture. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. and set aside more for things like healthcare, or whatever comes down the road. this is "the planning effect" from fidelity.
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of mariupol. the siege is now over and the city has surrendered. joining me right now from kharkiv is matt bradley. matt, there were still some soldiers inside that steel plant. what exactly happened to them? >> reporter: yeah, we don't know the fact of the matter. i'm coming at you from here inside a hotel room, because we are observing the blackout and curfew. what we heard from the ukrainian government is there are still some fighters holed up underneath the azovstal steel works. we don't know how many because the government wouldn't say how many were determined to stay. i spoke to some. they said they were never going to surrender. they were going to fight to the death. clearly some have surrendered. more than 200 sent to the nearby town of -- this is a town that
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is inside area that was take en by pro-russian separatists back in 2014, the last time russia invaded ukraine, and more than 50 were also sent to a different nearby city. that different group was sent there because they were in dire need of medical care. but both groups, well more than 200 are now in russian custody. these men have, even though the ukrainian government isn't using this term, they have surrendered. the russians are going to be saying they're surrendered. this is the azov brigade, the azov battalion, considered to have a neo-nazi or right wing past. the ukrainian government does not consider them neo-nazi. for a lot of ukrainians they consider these people to be heroes because of persistent woks and weeks in azovstal.
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for the russians they're going back to the public and saying, we've defeated these neo-nazis. there's even an order by the supreme court of russia to declare the men taken and declare the brigade at terrorists, but the ukrainian government says they're going to be trying to negotiate a prisoner swap in the future to try to get hundred of men back by trading them for russian prisoners. katy? >> matt bradley, matt, thank you very much. joining me right now is former allied commander of nato. a msnbc chief national security and diplomacy analyst. and author of the upcoming book "to risk it all". admiral, thank you very much for being with us. let's talk about nato. finland and sweden are going to formally apply. why exactly would turkey object? >> turkey has some domestic problems, if you will, with the fact that both finland and sweden have not extradited some
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individuals, kurds who the turks consider to be part of a terrorist group. you know, the turks have been after the united states for example, as you know, the extradite some living here in the united states. it's kind of an ongoing challenge turkey has with a number of nations. they're going to use a little bit of leverage here. but at the end of the day, this deal is going get done. finland and sweden are going to join nato. >> and what will it mean when they do? >> it will be a very good thing. these are two highly competent professional militaries. they deployed under my command to afghanistan. alongside as a partner in the nato mission there. they were also part of nato missions in the balkens. sweden participated in the war over libya, no fly zone. different capabilities. the finns have terrific ground
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forces. that's the finnish prime minster on the left. and the swedes are very high technology, a nation that builds volvos. they're good at building fighter aircraft as well, including the griffin. they bring a lot to the table for nato. they'll be terrific members of this alliance. >> how might russia react? they haven't said officially. they don't like it obviously. does that mean nuclear weapons might be moved even closer to russia? which is one of the regions that russia says it invaded ukraine. >> i think it does not mean nuclear weapons will come any closer to russia. the only nuclear weapons we ought to be thinking about are whether vladimir putin decides to use a tactical nuclear weapon. i don't think he will, but certainly the swedes and finns have no interest in hosting nuclear arm forces on their territory. what we heard over the last couple of days from vladimir putin personally was kind of a
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shrug of the shoulders and a comment that it won't really change things dramatically, but we wouldn't want to see nato basis there. putin is recognize his limitations in the sense that he's really rolled the dice in ukraine. he's devoted his military to it, and in military terms he's breaking his lance in ukraine. he doesn't have the fire power to go after finland and sweden on the side. i don't think you're going to hear more from russians on this. it's good for the alliance, for the swedes and finns, for the west, demonstrating alliance against vladimir putin. all in all a pretty good day for nato. >> admiral, thank you so much for being with us. coming up, are enough voters really convinced by donald trump's big lie? we're going to find out how much of an effect it has in
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wrong sport, chuck. just hold the sub, man! subway keeps refreshing and refreshing and refreshi- it is judgment day for republican madison cawthorn in north carolina. political insiders say the crowded primary is cawthorn's to lose, and if he does lose it it will be his own fault. recent polling shows republican patience may be wearing thin after a series of self-inflicted controversies that earned cawthorn headlines from everything but legislating. joining me now nbc news correspondent antonia hilton. folks are going to the polls today, antonia. what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, katy, i'll say this -- madison cawthorn should be thankful the cutoff is
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30% and not 50%, because some republicans have been waffling. and this come after the string of controversies you just mentioned. people talked about trying to bring a gun through the airport, his comments on a podcast, that there were or jis and cocaine use. leaked explicit videos and photos of the congressman. that's got some people wondering if the 26-year-old is fit to serve. i had a conversation with one republican standing on the sidewalk actively debating who he was going to vote for and considering one of cawthorn's seven challengers, state senator chuck edwards. then again, there are some folks here, because of trump's support for the young congressman, they are still backing him. take a listen to one conversation i had with a republican here. have you heard about any of what -- >> i heard he said something about -- but i believe stuff like that goes on in washington, so --
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>> reporter: the orgys and cocaine and sex parties? >> absolutely. i think it happens. >> reporter: what do you think about his time in congress? >> it's been a short time, but i think he goes the way i want our politicians to go. he's young, he's got good ideas, and he's not afraid to say what he thinks, he's not afraid of political correctness. >> reporter: so, as you can see there, katy, for some voters, the scandals really don't matter of factor much into their decision today. then one republican told me who was here waffling on his choice said that about 50% of the republicans he knows hadn't made up their minds. they were worried the 27-year-old, wasn't his time to serve. if he loses it will be because of the missteps over the last couple of months. >> thank you very much. for political strategists, the turbulent races for senate and
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governor here in pennsylvania the races are today's much-watch events, not only for the results but what the results reveal about what democratic and republican voters want. it is a gut check for both parties ahead of midterms. joining me now is reverend mark kelly tyler, senior pastor at mother african episcopal church and joshua dewatney, political operative and partner at sbl strategies. thank you for being with he. in the commercial break we were talking about how it's a very interesting race, and maybe more interesting -- put it in quotes -- on the republican side. josh, what do you think? >> i think you're right. first, thank you for having me. secondly, i think there's going to be no shortage of fireworks in the primary. you have a late endorsement from former president trump on the governor's side, which most people say was fairly locked up already with doug mastriano. the senate side is where a lot of eyes are today.
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you have dr. oz, the tv personality, and you have a late surge from kathy barnette, who some think is because of doug mastriano's endorsement. then you have dave mccormick who's in most polls third place, but he has been close enough that i think it's anyone's game. >> is mastriano electable? is barnette electable? >> most of party in pennsylvania is concerned to say the least, against mastriano. barnette, it's the question of whether or not she's been tested enough. she was polling until 10 or 12 points lower. negative ads, did a lot of damage and people were look or an alternative.
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>> john fetorman seems like he has it locked up from the polling. is that polling correct? >> the polling is interesting. i do a radio show and i talk to black voters each and every day, and when i ask the question who they're voting for, the vast majority say they're voting for conor lamb. black clergy, the organization here in philadelphia endorsed conor lamb, many of the institutions have endorsed conor lamb and go with malcolm kenyatta to a smaller degree. inside philly, fetorman struggled to get his message to black voters in a way that connects. if he becomes the nominee at the end of the night, i think people are going to do what's in their best interest at the end of the day, but up until this point, i think we'll find out the polls are right. >> is it hard to be a centrist in the democratic party right now? >> it's hard to be a centrist in any party right now.
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people are being pulled on both sides to the extremes. i think that's what makes it hard to have a debate and also going to have an impact in the general election. no matter who the republicans put forward, if donald trump is in pennsylvania campaigning for them, people are not going to listen to the message, they're going to be reminded they're voting for him. >> is it time to get rid of primaries so people aren't polled to the extremes? >> i'll take this one first. i'm against that. i think closed primaries are good. i don't like the meddling between the two parties with each other. that's happened in the past where they tray to pick, and you actually saw this. shapiro started running ads if, mastriano. he wanted him to be the candidate. he said he was the trumpist -- >> right now the candidates are on -- to lesser degrees but there are a lot of candidates
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who are on the extremes that aren't necessarily general election candidates, so is it better for democracy to open everything up? california does this. >> true. i think the meddling, though, is a big deal. i think what you probably have in primaries are more battle tested candidates coming out as well. >> reverend, what do you think? >> i'm going to agree with josh. maybe the only time we agree in this segment, but i think he's right, there's something to be said about each party electing their candidate. you would not think john fetorman would be the choice given the options that you have, but here we are, and sometimes you have to listen to the voters. >> who is the voting bloc that will decide the senatorial race in november? >> oh, in november? if you're looking at the democrats you're going to have to have a robust turnout in november. my concern is fetterman is not that he's wrong on policies, he has a lot to say, but the story
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with a black jogger pulling a gun out on him, that in the hands of dr. oz or kathy barnette or dave mccormick on a continuous loop will be every bit as powerful as hillary clinton saying that she said superpredators. >> will it suppress the black vote? >> many people in philadelphia did not vote for hillary clinton because she called black people in the 1990s superpredators. so if that happened with the word superpredators, and in the wake of the killing of ahmaud arbery, you have a candidate who's pulled a shotgun -- and he wants to debate whether he pointed it or not. you had a shotgun in your hand. the intent was there. i think that story's going to hurt him in the general election. >> gentleman, thank you so much. fresh out of time. thanks for dealing with at bright lights outside, the bright lights we have set up for us out here. coming up next, i want to believe.
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. as fox moulder says, the truth is out there. for the first time in 50 years, a house panel held a public hearing today on capitol hill on unidentified aerial phenomenon. you know them as ufos. you're looking at a previously classified video that was played for lawmakers today. these split second take taken through the window after a fighter jet shows an object in the distance speeding past the aircraft. it remains unexplained. joining me now from capitol hill is gadi schwartz. this is the best assignment of the day. what did you learn? >> reporter: first of all, i love those glasses that you're wearing. gives the whole entire thing "men in black" vibes. admit it. i know the lights are bright,
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but -- >> no, it's very bright and i have a headache, so i'm sparing my brain, but thank you. >> got it. just as long as you don't hold something up and flash everybody's brain after, this we'll continue here. because a lot of people at this hearing were expecting some big revelation and what he saw was two anti-climactic videos. if we can play them i'll walk you through what we're seeing. it's a supplies second. you see it zoom by. that's a metallic object. there are a lot of questions that surfaced from lawmakers after the hearing, and that is, number one, yes, that looks like phone video. that is phone video from a pilot of a fighter jet taken. and we're not seeing any radar. we're not seeing any gun camera, any forward looking infrared. we're seeing iphone video of an object just zooming by. so, the pentagon released this video saying this is how hard it is to classify and to try to figure out what these objects
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are. but it's also raising a lot more questions than answers. the pentagon also released another video, if we can show this. this is video similar to what we've seen off the west coast in california. a swarm of uaps that were over some navy warships. and you can see it looking like a triangle. they're now saying they think that is a manmade drone and the reason it look like a triangle is because of some lens flare that's happening with the dlsr they shot it with and the night vision goggles they were shooting through. so explanations there. however, lawmakers were asking questions, and it did sound like there were 18 cases in which they had some hard data, hard sensor data and saw objects performing in ways they could not explain. so you're hearing a lot of reports coming in, but right now we've got 18 that look like
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they're unexplainable and they're in a classified briefing right now. katy? >> really interesting. love to know more, but of course it's classified. >> don't blind us now. >> gadi, i wish i had one of those, i could use a memory wipe every now and then. thank you very much. >> exactly. >> that is going to do it for me today. thank you for bearing with the glasses. again, it is very bright out here. tune in tonight at 7:00 eastern for the primetime primary coverage. meantime you're in the capable hands of hallie jackson who picks up coverage next. choose stelara® from the start... and move toward relief after the first dose... with injections every two months. stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths,
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